Mexican Trucks to Travel Deeper into U.S. Roads; Safety Advocates Say Move Endangers Motorists

By | February 26, 2007

  • February 26, 2007 at 12:46 pm
    PAS says:
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    Oh boy, so it starts. This is the government\’s first step to creating the reason to build the super highway. This NAFTA highway will go through the center of the nation between Mexico, through the US and into Canada. They say they aren\’t working on it but with this first step it will give them reason to build this highway. This will result in many American\’s being thrown out of their homes and land (under eminent domain) and to ultimately create the North American version of Europe! No borders and no more sovereignty for the United States!

  • February 26, 2007 at 12:52 pm
    Realist says:
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    Sadly, George Bush backs it too.

  • February 26, 2007 at 1:00 am
    PAS says:
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    I know. It is amazing that he would work so hard at fighting the terrorists but let them just walk through our borders, now this. . . I don\’t get it. Apparently his whole cabinet has knowledge of it and many are working towards this goal.

  • February 26, 2007 at 1:05 am
    Gring0 says:
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    This past March, President Bush met in Cancun, Mexico, with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canada\’s newly elected Prime Minister Stephen Harper (shown above) to discuss the year-old SPP, which was formally inaugurated a year ago in a similar trinational summit in Waco, Texas.

    To judge from the official rhetoric emanating from various governmental sources, the SPP is a collection of harmless or even commendable multilateral initiatives. A March 23 White House press release observed: \”The SPP will complement, rather than replace, existing bilateral and trilateral fora and working groups that are performing well.\”

    The \”working groups\” casually referred to in that statement were created at the March 2005 Waco summit to create common policies for the United States, Canada, and Mexico in various economic and security areas. Those groups are already laying the foundation for a European Union-style integration of the SPP member nations.

    Though the leaders gathered at Cancun spoke in measured terms in describing this process, President Fox came close to giving away the game. His remarks underscored the demand for a new U.S. law ensuring \”safe and respectful migration, respecting the rights of people.\”

    Migration, unlike immigration, is the unhindered movement of whole peoples within national borders. Similar movement across a national border is either immigration, or emigration.

    Significantly, President Bush, too, said that the talks in Cancun often centered on \”migration,\” tacitly endorsing the same subversive assumption that the border between the U.S. and Mexico is as inconsequential as that dividing Utah from Nevada.

    So what do you think the upshot of this will be: Mexico will become more like the US or vice versa?

  • February 26, 2007 at 2:00 am
    Tom says:
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    What part of the word \”illegal\” is so difficult to understand?

    As long as the corrupt ruling elite of Mexico can alleviate social and economic pressure by shunting unemployed, uneducated or malcontent Mexican citizens to the U.S., they will have absolutely no incentive to act in the best interests of their own citizens or allow any democratic process to evolve.

    Also, when are the Democrats going to wake up? Who did organized labor vote for last election?

  • February 26, 2007 at 3:43 am
    tequila says:
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    From the George Lopez special on HBO on Friday (speaking of US government issues with Mexico)…

    FEMA – Find Every Mexican Available

    so true, here…

  • February 26, 2007 at 3:44 am
    Little Frog says:
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    How come I never hear about the insurance required for those trucks on our roads when they cause an accident? Are they required to buy it from U.S. carriers or will the victems have to file suit in Mexico? What are the penalties for non-compliance?

  • February 26, 2007 at 4:00 am
    poster says:
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    Mexicans driving to US must buy policies that are valid in the US in order to cross. US citizens crossing to Mexcico must likewise buy insurance that is valid in Mexico. Can\’t cross without it.

  • February 26, 2007 at 4:03 am
    Plymn says:
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    I\’m thrilled beyond belief. One thought is it will encourage job creation in Mexico to decrease the illegal immigration into the US. I\’m not holding my breath for that to happen.

    The report I heard on the news stated that Mexican truckers will have to purchase insurance from US carriers.

  • February 26, 2007 at 4:23 am
    Omnisure says:
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    If Vincente Fox, or whoever is the leader of Mexico is corupt and disconcerned with the econimic plight of Mexico\’s masses for allowing unrestricted migration to the USA which releaves Mexico financially and allows the Mexican ELITE to keep more of their, not so hard earned money, why are Pres Bush and other US leaders any different. They don\’t care about the labor class in America, now the higher paid, professional trucker is doomed to work for minimum wage or be put out of business.

    Our country could care less about our labor class eg: Factories moved from USA to other countries, unmittigated migration of cheap labor into USA, demise of unions that CREATED a middle class.

    WELL, at least the real ELITEs have to pay some degree of taxes in the USA to keep the masses fed and support the WELL FARE STATE that they are allowing to occur to our once proud, hardworking country.

  • February 27, 2007 at 7:39 am
    Sick says:
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    I\’m sick of hearing people ***** about factories that have moved out of country. Why don\’t these same people ***** about foreign companies opening factories here in the U.S.? Toyota, Siemens, American Marazzi hire U.S. employees when they come to our country.

  • February 27, 2007 at 7:43 am
    Gring0 says:
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    Unions CREATED the middle class? Unions never created anything but fat paychecks for business agents. Unions are legalized extortion that prohibit competition among workers and strangle initiative. If not for do-nothing govt workers, there would be even less union membership than the current 11% of workers. May union membership (which is forced on many unwilling workers) continue to dwindle.

  • February 27, 2007 at 7:49 am
    Mark says:
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    Hey tom,

    The article is not about illegal aliens, its about conforming to the terms of NAFTA that we agreed to years ago. NAFTA allows Mexican and Canadian trucks to transport cargo to destinations within the US. Canadian trucks have been doing this all along. However, the labor unions, specifically the Teamsters, object to this because it takes away from their very well paid members. Lawsuits were filed to keep the Mexican trucks out of the US.

    The cargo still comes into the US. Right now the Mexican trucks have to transfer their cargo onto US trucks at the border. That\’s not what we agreed to under NAFTA, but what was required due to lawsuits by the Teamsters.

  • February 27, 2007 at 7:52 am
    Mark says:
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    Amen, Gring0!!

  • February 27, 2007 at 8:35 am
    Etimer says:
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    For at least 20 years I\’ve been ranting about the demise of the middle class. Back in 1986 when I started my rant I had relatives that told me I was crazy, that all that is being done is less expensive goods will be made available to them. Now that 80% of those relatives (they were highly paid) have lost their jobs to India….they now see clearly.

    That axiom about learning from history always seems to hold true. A country that isn\’t producing the goods (they use outside slave labor to produce the goods) is on a downward spiral.

    The growing dominant world economy is China. Does China use outsiders to produce their goods. No! They are like the USA was when it was a growing Nation, producers of goods.

    I got so PO\’d about this subject I could spit blood. The powers-to-be are banking their money and selling the middle class to the lowest bidder. Errrr!!!!!!

  • February 27, 2007 at 8:50 am
    KLS says:
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    Once all of the US interstates are sold to Australia, Spain and Dubai, the Mexican trucks won\’t be able to afford the tolls.

    Of course, the American trucks won\’t be able to afford them either, nor will the American people.

    Thanks to Public/Private Partnerships, the highways will be so expensive that only Bill Gates and Donald Trump will be using them. So save for two vehicles, our roads will finally be accident free!

    Repeat after me… I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Spain of Australia…

  • February 27, 2007 at 9:21 am
    future says:
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    Tough, interesting subject. China produces goods but when you study how they do it, it\’s not pretty for the working class and laborers there.

    In the US, you used to have child labor and even slave labor, eventually society deals with that as socially unjust.

    Now it happens \”out of sight\”. There\’s the invisible hand of economics at work pushing production to lowest possible cost, even if outside the nation. Next step is some global realization that working conditions could be unacceptable. Production still gravitates to cheapest source but if that source is a higher standard, that\’s what we\’ll pay for and accept.

    Trouble now is there are so many countries where people will accept poor conditions because it beats nothing at all.

  • February 27, 2007 at 9:22 am
    Gring0 says:
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    The loss of middle class purchasing power can be tied directly to the size of government and the resulting taxes. For instance, the alt min tax is creeping into more pockets as middle class wages RISE. Why are jobs moved overseas? Lower cost of doing business. Are companies in business to lose money or make money? Should they stay here and pay union members not to work, or go to more friendly environs and make a profit? Where are Toyota et al building their factories in the US? In right-to-work states.

    So go ahead and keep voting democrat and maybe when they are able they will nationalize everything and we can all work for the government: and there will be NO middle class at all, you know, like in Cuba.

  • February 27, 2007 at 10:42 am
    Trippy says:
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    Well, I have read all the posts & the article too. The problem I have with this stems from previous attempts to make this happen, that did result in $ in the pockets of the Import/Export business that popped up all along the border when things were halted due to the teamsters.

    Now we have seen the Mexican Trucks, most are in horrible condition (leaking fluids, broken & burned out lights, dirty (I guess there are no truck wash bays in Mexico) & driven without care of the other traffic on the roadways) the drivers are not familiar with our laws, nor would the majority qualify for a CDL in the States!

    I had the pleasure of living in the South Texas Valley from 1993-1995 & worked for a transportation Broker that moved the Mexican freight throughout the US. We made several trailer interchanges, which resulted in our company not receiving the trailers back from Mexico & no course of action was implemented on how we could do so in the future. By now, the trailers that we sent down to pick up freight to bring back are probably in horrible condition, bad tires, no lights, etc…

    My point is that we are not doing Mexico any injustice by keeping them out if we make a treaty that they must abide by, so if they are willing to abide by the agreement & address the concerns of safety, then we should let them have their chance to prove what they can do. We need it to be monitored & records kept to determine what percentage is working for the good & what percentage is just working no matter what the cost!

    I am all for helping our neighbors & we need to allow a little time to see how well our help is received, or if it will be rejected & they will not abide by the requirements. There is always some that will not conform, but there are many that will.

  • February 27, 2007 at 10:42 am
    Size o\' Govt says:
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    Hey there Gring0, the government has actually increased in size over the last six years, and the last I checked there were no demos in power. And you\’re absolutely right, companies are just created for money, and shouldn\’t have any loyalty to the citizens of their own country. Hopefully, they can outsource your job, and I can buy cheaper insurance. Because really, that\’s all that matters.

  • February 27, 2007 at 11:49 am
    Gring0 says:
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    The increase in spending has resulted largely from increases in the costs of communist-inspired \”entitlements\” like SS and Medicare / Medicaid, which were given to us by the glorious and immortal FDR and LBJ – both democrats.

    Spending on these monstrosities is currently ruining the health care system in this country and leading us down the road to ruin.

    Discretionary spending increased only 1-2% in the latest budget submitted by Bush, I think, and of course there are the expenses of the two wars we are fighting made necessary by Clinton\’s having other things to do than fight Terrorism, and Jimmy Carter deposing the Shah of Iran and putting the Ayatollahs in power there.

    As for companies having loyalty to their country of origin: any company\’s first loyalty is to its owners, which is to say, to itself. Going out of business due to blind loyalty to a government that has become hostile to business interests is not really loyalty but suicide.

    By this logic the Pilgrims would have never come here. They would have remained loyal to England despite the depredations England was inflicting on them, and never (have gone to Holland or) come here.

  • February 27, 2007 at 2:30 am
    Etimer says:
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    Yes the invisible hand of economics, you must have been reading Adam Smith?

    Using the current outsourcing will eventually level itself thoughts, you and I will be dead until that happens.

    We are approaching a time compared to a previous time in history. The time of the great railroad barons and industrialist tycoons. Instead of importing their cheap slave labor they can now export the manufacturing of the goods to cheap slave labor. Instead of sweat shops in America they have sweat shops in some third world country. Instead of child labor in the USA they have another country use child labor. It is all good for the corporation but is it really good for the country. I say no.

    The mega-corporations are pressing hard for constitutional rights that were granted to persons in the same category as humans. This will lead to a greater control of the few. I am a Republican and have never shown a love of Unions. I am re-thinking the Union idea. I can\’t be a Dem and I am really fed up with the Republican Party, so where does that leave me? That leaves me as a PO\’d American, sitting back watching America burn as Rome did during a previous time in history.

    So sit back, light a cigar the fix is already in.

    What is the global economy (rhetorical question)? It seems that it is the ability to shift labor to third world countries so that the corporations can benefit. It sure isn\’t about us selling goods and services to countries such as India. With 300 million people, we are a force of our own. Heck California has a GDP as big as many countries. So why do we need to ship all the jobs to other countries. In my local paper I saw a job wanted ad for a chemist and the salary was only $39,000 a year. For a chemist!??!? Why are construction workers making close to the same hourly wage as I did in 1975? What is going on here? Where is the capital flowing to? My guess is that capital is flowing in larger amounts to fewer hands. We are told each year that America is producing more and more millionaires. Hm? If large capital is flowing in fewer hands does that mean we are producing less and less middle class?

    Because of the inversion flow of capital I think government programs will grow. The will grow out of need and necessity. The growing government didn\’t persuade the corporations to move their labor capital to India. Greed persuaded them to move it. Just as greed kills socialism greed will kill our form of capitalism.

    Even though Marie Antoinette never said the famous \”let them eat cake\” the current rulers and upper class in the USA might just as well mutter the same words.

  • February 27, 2007 at 3:43 am
    Gring0 says:
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    \”…you and I will be dead until that happens.\” -Etimer

    Speak for yourself.

  • February 27, 2007 at 4:40 am
    Etimer says:
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    Ok…..maybe just me.

    The point is that the rising tide of global labor equalization won\’t happen very soon.

    They have yet to start using the Indian people of the Amazon rain forest for labor capital. I am sure they could get those people to work for some abysmal hourly wage. Imagine the labor savings that would be possible? Imagine the extra stock options and warrants that could be given out to the CEO/COO/CFO\’s? Why the thought of it just makes my heart palpitate.

  • February 28, 2007 at 8:20 am
    Mmmm says:
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    I hope that your words, typed or written, do not do you more harm than good. I\’m not saying anyone is right or wrong, but the article is about Mexican Trucking Companies working in the U.S.

    How you were able to turn that into a rant about other nations & the abilities of their people, the work that they may or may not be qualified for… well, that\’s a true mystery. I guess you must be so far up the ladder of societal evolution that it seems appropriate to you to judge.

    Be compassionate & understanding when it comes to cultures that you do not know personally & you may find that we are not all that different… the common thread is that we are all human!

  • February 28, 2007 at 9:14 am
    etimer says:
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    Wow! You better come along on a mission trip to India. Yes they are a very poor country but they are far past what you say: \”perform tasks like sewing sneakers together and soldering circuit boards, so they can be modestly productive.\”

    Except for service centered jobs like, carpenters, painters, cashiers, etc,. there is not one reason on this earth that today we couldn\’t ship every job to India. If you think everyone in India is poor and stupid…better re-think that supposition.

    Remember how the big deal was to go into IT? Well that was good but then they shipped the IT departments to India. Now we have IT people masters degrees selling widgets.

    Just as we dumbed down the education system we are dumbing down the flow of spending capital. Aside from the insurance sales I was also a Series 7 guy for 15 years. I found that the majority of people are deep in debt. America funds their life not through production and spending capital but through debt. Do a search on the net and you will find the US citizen has a terrible savings rate. That savings rate was actually a negative rate in 2006. It is the worst savings rate since the Great Depression. I believe many Americans see it slipping away, is in denial and uses debt to feed that denial.

    What would happen if today, this minute, credit cards were made illegal? I would lay $10,000 on the table that you would see a crashing economy. People do not have spending capital, that cash, that money in the bank, to feed the consumer driven economy. The debt fed society is like a business that won\’t accept its demise. Instead it uses lines of credit to stay alive until that one day, the day there are no more lines of credit and the business must close. It is my opinion that our current path of outsourcing will lead us down the same path as the failing business.

    To me economists are like accounts. They can give you the numbers you want to hear. For 18 years my wife worked for one of the big 8 accounting firms. How does that accountant saying go? What\’s 2 plus 2 equal? The accountant says, what do you want it to equal. Maybe that\’s why it is called economics theory? Unlike mathematics or gravity, economics isn\’t a law but a theory. Theories change, can be wrong and may have devastating outcomes. Hm?

    What made America a great place to live, grow and prosper was the three tierd economy. You could move from one teir to another because there was so many varied jobs. We are headed to a two tiered economy and not as many varied jobs.

    I\’ve been self employed (I own this deal) since the early 1990\’s. To be in business that long you need to be positive and always look at the glass half full. But I am not someone with blinders on and don\’t see a rosy picture for the future America. I will survive….I always do.



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