Do you really think these people will change their ways just by being locked up or paying a fine? With how our legal system is (not very enforcing) those kind of penalties are a joke. These criminals know they will never really face a true pentalty with all the appeals they can put in and all the waiting they do for trials. Our legal system has become a joke.
Sure, there are bad guys out there and they are finding way to hack computer systems to steal personal data and then do bad things with what they find. However real change will occur when private companies are held accountable for the weak, ill-written and poor excuse for systems that house systems that contain OUR personal data.
Just last week using data found and indexed by Google, I found database backups from several financial companies that contained SSN\’s, bank account information, DOB, home addresses, etc.. you name it.. it was there.
After I notified the top five executives of that particular \”Colorado corporation\” they did shore up there systems however did nothing to alert thier customers.
So if a Brinks truck is driving down the road spilling money out the back, is it theft if you pick up a few of those greenbacks on the side of the road a few days later?
Give me a break. If you people only knew how much persoanl data is released by government agencies, probate courts and freely available information through the freedom of information act, you\’d all be amazed.
Identity theft should have a minimum sentence of 25 years. This crime ruins peoples lives and the punishment should be severe. They should spend the 25 years doing hard labor to repay what they have stolen.
Great idea in theory but it would never work. San Fransico is now a \”Safe haven\” for illegals. If we can\’t stop the illegal aliens who need to steal identities in order to get a welfare or Social Security check, we will never get our arms around this issue…
comeon, someone needs to use Rosies id and make a comment about \”why didn\’t they do this in 2001?\” or \”it doesn\’t go far enough\” or \”I guess one of W\’s big oil friends got his identity stolen and only now do we see action\”…
please someone, swipe Rosies id and pretend…we need some good anti Bush comments.
Lets just finish off the life of the person who steals someone elses identity.
Then we can pay a small death benefit(like Medicares $255.00 burial payment)and save ourselves a fortune in prison and torturing costs…lol!
Wouln\’t be fair for someone to pose as Rosie. Only she could make those interesting comments. However, we do need stricter penalties for ID thieves, just a matter of degree.
we don\’t have some public flogging, or banishment. Mess up and you have to find
another community to try to live in. Mess
up there, get banished again and maybe some of these losers will figure it out.
Well it costs about $3,500,000 in legal expenses to execute a person these days. Got the figure right out of the mouth of a wrongly convicted man who freed in 2004 after spending 17 years in prison on a capital case, Randy Steidl
This is just bush and his neo-con cronies finding a way to distract everyone from his illeagal war and steal all the gas from us. Gonzales is an illeagal alien!
since her shadow could throw our planet into the next cycle of global cooling.
Ready everybody? For Al Bore imitation,
repeat after me slowly with southern accent. \’I\’m smart, you\’re dumb\’.
Here is an opportunity for you to help combat ID Theft. Offer ID Theft coverage along with your insurance. For the best program around, please visit: http://www.prepaidlegal.com/idt/mariony_78
The program covers individuals and groups for complete ID monitoring and reporting.
What \”delicious irony.\” Alberto has stolen the identity of the U.S. Attorney General–that of a person of competence and integrity–and replaced it with a caricature of a bumbling political hack. Now, truly, Bush can walk into a cabinet meeting, and like his former buddy, the late great Ken Lay of Enron, say he is the \”smartest person in the room.\”
Problem with the Bush administration is that there are just wayyy tooooo manyyyy of George\’s Texas buddies playing politician with him in Washington. The US would be a much better place if George would have appointed qualified people in lieu of his buddies so that someone might know how do to things. Thank GOD we only have 2-1/2 more years before he\’s gone.
Hopefully with the next election we will get someone (Democrat or Republician) that knows something about Government and what people need versus what George thinks that want.
Now let\’s see, if a person 25 commits ID tehft & goes to jail it costs between 75-85,000 per year to keep them in jail. If you give him life and assume he lives to 80 at an average of 80K per year it is 4,400,000 to keep his sa but in the can.
A really good idea is to put him to work cranking out license plates or such until he has earned what he stole including fees and the cost of the trial then set his but free. BUT only after teling him where George W lives and his D/O/B.
How come you guys can\’t stay on topic! ID theft is serious but no one is addressing the fact that some individuals out there actually sell their name address & social security # for as little as $500.00 .. Then claim it was stolen – so they get the $500.00 & none of the problems that their friends cause while charging up large credit card accounts & not paying , having fake car accidents & filing law suits for the BI claims . How about \”Bar Codes Tatooed to all citizen\’s Neck or forehead . Where it can\’t be hidden of easily removed. We need a National form of ID . Retina scans or whatever. That can\’t be too readily tampered with in the immediate future. How about someone also checking into the Mortgage fraud being perpetrated by folks using fake ID\’s.
The average Honest American public is being charged a Millions in additional
fees to cover this type of willing theft.
I can see Rosie and her lib friends blowing a major gasket over your post. A national ID program, that would violate the illegal aliens and terrorist\’s civil rights…
Sorry bulldogg to disagree with you on those issues but those criminals deserved to be shot at and deserved to die. They were nothing but a bunch of criminals. You can argue all you want and say they were \”lost souls\” or modern day robin hood but a criminal is a criminal.
Yes, Ruby ridge was bad and even if Bill Clinton had personally pulled the trigger and killed each one of the people to die in that fire it\’s nothing compared to the blood on Bush\’s hands and the people that continue to support him and his administration.
Everyday it\’s as if the Bush camp sends out a little phrase of \”remember when?\” to respond everytime they screw up.
Do you really think these people will change their ways just by being locked up or paying a fine? With how our legal system is (not very enforcing) those kind of penalties are a joke. These criminals know they will never really face a true pentalty with all the appeals they can put in and all the waiting they do for trials. Our legal system has become a joke.
Sure, there are bad guys out there and they are finding way to hack computer systems to steal personal data and then do bad things with what they find. However real change will occur when private companies are held accountable for the weak, ill-written and poor excuse for systems that house systems that contain OUR personal data.
Just last week using data found and indexed by Google, I found database backups from several financial companies that contained SSN\’s, bank account information, DOB, home addresses, etc.. you name it.. it was there.
After I notified the top five executives of that particular \”Colorado corporation\” they did shore up there systems however did nothing to alert thier customers.
So if a Brinks truck is driving down the road spilling money out the back, is it theft if you pick up a few of those greenbacks on the side of the road a few days later?
Give me a break. If you people only knew how much persoanl data is released by government agencies, probate courts and freely available information through the freedom of information act, you\’d all be amazed.
Identity theft should have a minimum sentence of 25 years. This crime ruins peoples lives and the punishment should be severe. They should spend the 25 years doing hard labor to repay what they have stolen.
…and when they have served their 25 years let\’s pick another criminal and have him serve that guys time as well!
Great idea in theory but it would never work. San Fransico is now a \”Safe haven\” for illegals. If we can\’t stop the illegal aliens who need to steal identities in order to get a welfare or Social Security check, we will never get our arms around this issue…
I am surprised Rosie was not the first to post on this article. Rosie, come out, come out wherever you are.
Arms… what a great idea! Let\’s cut off their arms and they won\’t be able to hand the clerk the fake credit card.
Never mind… would just be giving them a bigger SS check.
comeon, someone needs to use Rosies id and make a comment about \”why didn\’t they do this in 2001?\” or \”it doesn\’t go far enough\” or \”I guess one of W\’s big oil friends got his identity stolen and only now do we see action\”…
please someone, swipe Rosies id and pretend…we need some good anti Bush comments.
Lets just finish off the life of the person who steals someone elses identity.
Then we can pay a small death benefit(like Medicares $255.00 burial payment)and save ourselves a fortune in prison and torturing costs…lol!
Wouln\’t be fair for someone to pose as Rosie. Only she could make those interesting comments. However, we do need stricter penalties for ID thieves, just a matter of degree.
we don\’t have some public flogging, or banishment. Mess up and you have to find
another community to try to live in. Mess
up there, get banished again and maybe some of these losers will figure it out.
Rosie posted yesterday on the nationals Climate Change Risks \’Potentially Significant\’ Says US Report. She apparently was on vacation.
Come on, how can Rosie afford a vacation? Doesn\’t she need to money to pay for her high insurance premiums?
The heck with Rosie, where\’s Al Gore? I\’m sure he thought of this when he invented the internet. He must have a plan for cyber I.D. theft!
…someone\’s identity.
Well it costs about $3,500,000 in legal expenses to execute a person these days. Got the figure right out of the mouth of a wrongly convicted man who freed in 2004 after spending 17 years in prison on a capital case, Randy Steidl
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/IL_Steidl.htm.
People who think it\’s cheaper to impose the death penalty than to impose a life without parole sentence are mistaken.
This is just bush and his neo-con cronies finding a way to distract everyone from his illeagal war and steal all the gas from us. Gonzales is an illeagal alien!
How\’s that?
Feel free to score on a 1 to 10.
since her shadow could throw our planet into the next cycle of global cooling.
Ready everybody? For Al Bore imitation,
repeat after me slowly with southern accent. \’I\’m smart, you\’re dumb\’.
Here is an opportunity for you to help combat ID Theft. Offer ID Theft coverage along with your insurance. For the best program around, please visit:
http://www.prepaidlegal.com/idt/mariony_78
The program covers individuals and groups for complete ID monitoring and reporting.
Right you are (expense of execution vs. life in prison)… it defies all logic though.
Lots of people are killed everyday and it certainly doesn\’t cost millions of dollars.
Personally, I think death for someone who didn\’t take someone else\’s life is definitely cruel and unusual punishment.
B I give you a 9 because only Rosie is Rosie. You gave me a good laugh though.
What \”delicious irony.\” Alberto has stolen the identity of the U.S. Attorney General–that of a person of competence and integrity–and replaced it with a caricature of a bumbling political hack. Now, truly, Bush can walk into a cabinet meeting, and like his former buddy, the late great Ken Lay of Enron, say he is the \”smartest person in the room.\”
…tryin\’ to make it real—compared to what?\”
You can\’t make this stuff up.
Problem with the Bush administration is that there are just wayyy tooooo manyyyy of George\’s Texas buddies playing politician with him in Washington. The US would be a much better place if George would have appointed qualified people in lieu of his buddies so that someone might know how do to things. Thank GOD we only have 2-1/2 more years before he\’s gone.
Hopefully with the next election we will get someone (Democrat or Republician) that knows something about Government and what people need versus what George thinks that want.
Now let\’s see, if a person 25 commits ID tehft & goes to jail it costs between 75-85,000 per year to keep them in jail. If you give him life and assume he lives to 80 at an average of 80K per year it is 4,400,000 to keep his sa but in the can.
A really good idea is to put him to work cranking out license plates or such until he has earned what he stole including fees and the cost of the trial then set his but free. BUT only after teling him where George W lives and his D/O/B.
Make the sorry SOB pay back double what he stole for punishment and lock his butt up.
How come you guys can\’t stay on topic! ID theft is serious but no one is addressing the fact that some individuals out there actually sell their name address & social security # for as little as $500.00 .. Then claim it was stolen – so they get the $500.00 & none of the problems that their friends cause while charging up large credit card accounts & not paying , having fake car accidents & filing law suits for the BI claims . How about \”Bar Codes Tatooed to all citizen\’s Neck or forehead . Where it can\’t be hidden of easily removed. We need a National form of ID . Retina scans or whatever. That can\’t be too readily tampered with in the immediate future. How about someone also checking into the Mortgage fraud being perpetrated by folks using fake ID\’s.
The average Honest American public is being charged a Millions in additional
fees to cover this type of willing theft.
At least Gonzales does not have any blood on his hands, REMEMBER WACO AND RUBY RIDGE!!!!
…I say, three appeals and if you don\’t make it, you get the juice…
Oh my, I hope no one you love every gets railroaded into a death sentence like some of these guys:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=6&did=110
I can see Rosie and her lib friends blowing a major gasket over your post. A national ID program, that would violate the illegal aliens and terrorist\’s civil rights…
We DON\’T want to stay on topic!! We\’re looking for Rosie.
Oh yes, that would be terrible if we ruined the illegals and terrorists rights.
I believe she may be stuck-up \’n some Hollar\’ in WV (while on her vacation) Once the river flood waters receed, she\’ll be back!!
Sorry bulldogg to disagree with you on those issues but those criminals deserved to be shot at and deserved to die. They were nothing but a bunch of criminals. You can argue all you want and say they were \”lost souls\” or modern day robin hood but a criminal is a criminal.
Mary B, I agree with you, just turn them loose with the other criminals.They will take care of them and save us lots of money!
Yes, Ruby ridge was bad and even if Bill Clinton had personally pulled the trigger and killed each one of the people to die in that fire it\’s nothing compared to the blood on Bush\’s hands and the people that continue to support him and his administration.
Everyday it\’s as if the Bush camp sends out a little phrase of \”remember when?\” to respond everytime they screw up.
IMPEACH BUSH!
What in the hell does your post have to do with ID Theft?!?!?
Welcome back Rosie. We\’ve missed you.
missed you…like a Kidney Stone