White House Still Sees Health Reform By Year’s End Despite Delays

By Jackie Frank | July 24, 2009

  • July 24, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    Rosie says:
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    i hate those obstructionist GOPers blocking genuine reform and letting poor families and children get the care they so badly need :(

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:10 am
    Louie says:
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    Rosie, don’t you know the Democrats need no Republican votes to place this piece of crap into effect?

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:17 am
    Roc says:
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    the key phrase is “responsible” reform. so far “O”, pelosi,reid, etal have not been able to present a coherent plan to the public because they lack the intellect to do so. if you think you (and others) have issues with health care now, just wait – unless the blue dog dems and repubs can get on top of this and produce meaningful responsible reform. so far, “O” just says trust me and he lost my trust when he brought all the tax cheats into his admin, so it is politics as usual.

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:22 am
    riverrat says:
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    Rosie…you’ve been blinded with glazed over eyes since election day. Get the facts and then reconsider you’re support for this debacle.

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:35 am
    EGoyle says:
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    You know how great government insurance is? Just check out the national flood program, they are broke. Check out California State Compensation Insurance Fund, they need to sell part of this agency! I am sure their are more in other states that are having problems. In addition, FedEx has to deliver the postal services overnight mail because the government run post office doesn’t have it’s act together! This is not to mention now nearly every government agency is in the hole right now! That is how great government is managed! By the way, do you still want your “free” healthcare???

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:36 am
    Not Drinking The Kool Aid says:
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    It’s truly sad when some folks are so blinded by hatred that they’d want to see the overwhelming majority of the country punished with the excuse of helping out a few. (when it’s really all just about politics…)

    Thank goodness, cooler heads prevailed and stopped that runaway train, at least for now, because once we have socialized medicine, we’ll never be able to go back.

    Did anyone else find is disingenuous that ,in the NPR inteview aired this am, Ram Emmanuel was quick to point out that his parents were both health care professionals (hence his passion for this issue) but he conveniently forgot to mention that his brother WAS RESPONSIBLE THE STINKING BILL THAT WOULD HAVE PUSHED US FUTHER INTO THE WELFARE ABYSS AT THE EXPENSE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS? Politicians (and their minions) are SO sleazy…..

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:37 am
    matt says:
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    Don’t trust any of ’em. Not the GOP and not the current administration.

    Bush sold us out to special interests with the Medicare prescription drug plan disaster and the bailouts. Obama and Pelosi will take a legitimate opportunity to enact meaningful, important reform and instead again sell out to special interests. I think a well-crafted and fair public option is a great idea, but I am loathe to think of what the public option we’ll actually get will look like once the Congress Critters get done with it.

    Until a whole lot more of you start voting for people that are not affiliated with the Republicans or the Democrats then we will undoubtedly continue down the path of corporatism.

  • July 24, 2009 at 1:42 am
    Broke says:
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    Lets face facts (pay attention Rosy…)
    if this unread, horrid healthcare package goes though I’ll have to lay off employees. How am I going to pass the cost along for this to keep them?
    More taxes taken from my business and me personally to pay and will no longer choose my own health course or doctor (oh the say yes, but we know that is a lie).
    This is scary, very scary and why this huge push to pass something through unread and deal with it later? We have seen that already and working great so far with our ecomony further in the tanker and unemployement numbers up.

  • July 24, 2009 at 2:07 am
    Rick says:
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    Matt, I see you still got that love for the government option. I thought a few days of reflection and thinking would have changed that. My God man, grow up and think things through!

  • July 24, 2009 at 2:14 am
    Fed Up says:
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    Rosie Rosie Rosie, you are either just trying to stir things up here or, you are the most naive person I’ve run across in a very long time. I can only assume, your your wholehearted support stems from the fact that you’ve read (and understand) every word in that 850 page monstronsity and that you’re not still on a Kool-aid drunk. Do you really want the government to have total access to your medical and financial records?? Not me. Do you really want to be mandated to meet with a government “counselor” every five years to discuss your “end of life” options?? Not me. Heaven forbid you should get sick in your later years. The government will then decide if you have enough quality years left to get the treatment you need. If this passes it is going to irrevocably change our country forever. And definitely not for the better.

    Rosie, I hope you will take off those Rosie colored glasses and do your homework on this one. If you really think they are concerned with poor families and children, your very misguided.

  • July 24, 2009 at 2:25 am
    nobody important says:
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    She’s just exited because stomach stapling is a covered surgery.

  • July 24, 2009 at 3:10 am
    matt says:
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    I only want a public option if it is done right, and it surely won’t be.

    If they nix the public option they have to reign in the health providers (the medical bureaucracy not doctors).

    In the world of P&C insurance we cannot change our underwriting decisions about risk after the fact. We can’t save the underwriting and cancel a policy back to inception only once the building burns down, and we absolutely shouldn’t be able to. Would it add millions to the bottom line if we could find an arbitrary reason to retroactively cancel a policy after a large loss? Absolutely it would.

    How come the health providers get to do their underwriting only AFTER someone gets sick? It’s complete Bull and it has to change. I am not talking about cases of outright fraud & misrepresentation either.

  • July 24, 2009 at 3:59 am
    George Shrub says:
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    Jimmy Kimmel summed this issue up the best the other night: “50% of America wants universal health care and the other 50% already has health insurance.”
    Perfect!

  • July 24, 2009 at 4:28 am
    Maxine says:
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    How much longer are we going to sit here and take all this CRAP coming from DC? they need to concentrate on the economy, putting us (taxpayers) deeper in debt is complete lunacy-get your heads out of the sand or wherever it may be we need to fight back. Hey COngress, Senate, Reps etc. how much of a pay cut did you take!!?? your health cov’g is pay for LIFETIME, your perks are obscene – wake up your Num-Nuts, get off the Kool-aid, I for me and sich of the entire mess!!

  • July 26, 2009 at 8:08 am
    MELANIE says:
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    We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. MELANIE

    A SELF-CENTERED EGO. A COMPASSIONATE MIND HAS A TRUE SENSE OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING OF OTHERS. ALL WHO HAVE HELD OFFICE IN THIS GOVERNMENT HAVE HAD INSURANCE. YOUR QUOTE IS ”they all have health insurance that is better than almost every person on the planet”. My point is that Bush had INSURANCE AND WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT. THINK OF IT THIS WAY. ISN’T IT IRONIC THAT PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PEOPLE BUT THE PEOPLE CAN’T HAVE THE SERVICE THAT THEY ALL COMFORTABLY TAKE FOR GRANTED. IF OUR FOREFATHERS COULD COME BACK TODAY AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE CREATED I THINK IT WOULD SICKEN THEM. WE ARE AMERICANS AND ARE BETTER THAN THIS. AT LEAST I AM. THANK YOU GOD!
    AIG Withholds $2.4 Million in Bonuses for Senior Managers
    National News • July 23, 2009
    American International Group Inc., the insurer that has received billions of dollars in federal aid, withheld $2.4 million in bonuses due to be paid to dozens of senior managers on July 15.The ethic of reciprocity is a fundamental moral value which “refers to the balance in an interactive system such that each party has both rights and duties, and the subordinate norm of complementarity states that one’s rights are the other’s obligation. ” In essence, it is an ethical code that states one has a right to just treatment, and a responsibility to ensure justice for others

  • July 26, 2009 at 8:15 am
    helping yourself says:
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    For attractive lips, speak words of kindness. For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people. For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. For beautiful hair, let a child run his/her fingers through it once a day. For poise, walk with the knowledge that you never walk alone. People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone. Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of each of your arms. As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands; one for helping yourself, and the other for helping others.

    Audrey Hepburn poem‏

  • July 26, 2009 at 8:37 am
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    I think that the people who really conrol things think this blog is great. We get to talk and it provides a good release valve because that is all we can really do. Th Dems have the majority so if they really wanted to they cold pass this, but they won’t, because, like the GOP, they do what their corp handlers tell them to do. Thye don’t care what we think. Case in point: 60% of the public opposed the bank bail outs. What happended? Did their corp buddies get their money? So, go ahead and vent, just make sure that you think that if all you do is vote it will change things

  • July 26, 2009 at 10:04 am
    nobody important says:
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    Childish babbling. Go work in a political campaign, have petitions signed, write your representatives, run for office, just stop thinking that your little tantrums here are changing minds. Anyone weak minded enough to think you have any concept of how insurance works in the real world is not someone I care about. You would be included. I suppose it is about time to find another venue that fools such as you haven’t found yet. I insult you because I can’t seem to get your attention any other way, you are just too thick with bone between the ears. I shouldn’t let a paid poster get to me, but once in a while I just get fed up with your trash.

  • July 26, 2009 at 10:37 am
    So, go ahead and vent says:
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    they work for the people the people need to wake up…so we will vent over and over so more can known the truth. Look at history we can stand and we most.

  • July 26, 2009 at 12:39 pm
    The paradox of our time in his says:
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    Message by George Carlin:

    The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

    We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

    We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

    We’ve learned how to make a living, but not a life. We’ve added years to life not life to years. We’ve been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We’ve done larger things, but not better things.

    We’ve cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We’ve conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We’ve learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

    These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete…

    Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.

    Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

    Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn’t cost a cent.

    Remember, to say, ‘ I love you ‘ to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.

    Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.

    Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

    AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:

    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

    Please show you care….send this to at least 8 other people.

  • July 26, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    nobody important says:
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    Yes, go ahead and continue to vent, you babbling idiots. You post long and brave insults towards insurance people as if you were Patrick Henry standing up to George III. You are silly little people who probably do nothing but post trash like this wherever you can do it for free. Your knowledge of my chosen industy is about an inch deep, if that much. This is an insurance industry magazine website. You really think your silly cut and paste posts change the mind of anyone with an actual mind? Not likely. Now, go change your soiled drawers and ask your mommy if you can stay on line a little longer to insult the evil insurance people. Grow up. There are actual ways to make a difference and posting anonymous trash on the web isn’t one of them. Geez, I’m about ready to give up on this site for any real information and dialog with actual humans.

  • July 26, 2009 at 2:36 am
    SURE DO says:
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    . You really think your silly cut and paste posts change the mind of anyone with an actual mind? Not likely . SURE DO YOU READ IT SO THAT MEANS SO OUR OTHERS>>

  • July 26, 2009 at 3:18 am
    sms says:
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    You say there are other ways to make a difference. What specifically have you done regarding any political issue that made a difference?

  • July 26, 2009 at 5:19 am
    claim mishandling". says:
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    CITIZEN,S ARREST.

    Connecticut Fines Safeco $434K over Numerous Violations. fine $25 million in punitive damages, in part for the “systematic destruction of documents and systematic manipulation of individual claim files to conceal claim mishandling”. An Idaho appeals court fined the company $9.5 million in punitive damages for making use of “a completely bogus” outside bill review company that helped lower the cost of medical bills. In October of 1999, an Illinois jury rendered a $456 million judgment against State Farm and an additional $730 million in punitive damages for the insurer’s breach of contract with auto policy holders by relying on generic replacement parts. Rust was adamant in his insistence that fraud had not been committed. A class action law suit in the name of State Farm policy holders was filed in 2003 for breach of contract and statutory consumer fraud in which $1.1 billion was awarded to plaintiffs. When a company is misleading the public, should that not be considered fraud? A consumer would go to prison for that type of behavior. When there’s a disaster, the companies homeowners count on to protect them from financial ruin routinely pay less than what policies promise. Insurers often pay 30-60 percent of the cost of rebuilding a damaged home–even when carriers assure homeowners they’re fully covered, thousands of complaints with state insurance departments and civil court cases show.

    Paying out less to victims of catastrophes has helped produce record profits. In the past 12 years, insurance company net income has soared–even in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the worst natural disaster in U.S. history. Property- casualty insurers, which cover damage to homes and cars, reported their highest- ever profit of $73 billion last year, up 49 percent from $49 billion in 2005, according to Highline Data LLC, a Cambridge, Massachusetts-based firm that compiles insurance industry data.

    The 60 million U.S. homeowners who pay more than $50 billion a year in insurance premiums are often disappointed when they discover insurers won’t pay the full cost of rebuilding their damaged or destroyed homes. Property insurers systematically deny and reduce their policyholders’ claims, according to court records in California, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, New Hampshire and Tennessee. The insurance companies routinely refuse to pay market prices for homes and replacement contents, they use computer programs to cut payouts, they change policy coverage with no clear explanation, they ignore or alter engineering reports, and they sometimes
    CITIZEN,S ARREST.CITIZEN,S ARREST

  • July 26, 2009 at 5:21 am
    the worst natural disaster says:
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    $434K $25 million in punitive damages, in part for the “systematic destruction of documents and systematic manipulation of individual claim files to conceal claim mishandling”. An Idaho appeals court fined the company $9.5 million in punitive damages for making use of “a completely bogus” outside bill review company that helped lower the cost of medical bills. record profits. In the past 12 years, insurance company net income has soared–even in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the worst natural disaster in U.S. history.

  • July 26, 2009 at 5:24 am
    ask your mommy says:
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    Now, go change your soiled drawers and ask your mommy if you can stay on line a little longer to insult the evil insurance people. Grow up. YOU GROW UP THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE LIFES. NOT YOUR EGO.

  • July 26, 2009 at 5:26 am
    $1.1 billion was awarded to says:
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    A class action law suit in the name of State Farm policy holders was filed in 2003 for breach of contract and statutory consumer fraud in which $1.1 billion was awarded to plaintiffs. When a company is misleading the public, should that not be considered fraud?

  • July 26, 2009 at 6:02 am
    I AM CHASING RAINBOWS says:
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    $1.1 billion was awarded WHY?? WAIT A MINUTE! IF THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING, MY FRIEND, DO YOU NOT SEE ALL THE BILLION’S THAT ARE BEING COLLECTED IN PREMIUMS THAT ARE BEING C. IF WE CAN STOP WASTING THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ALL AND HEALTH CARE WILL BE SOMETHING WE ALL CAN HAVE. I JUST BET YOU WOULD NOT LET A DOG BE IN PAIN. YOU WOULD HELP IT. WHY THEN WOULD YOU NOT WANT THE SAME FOR YOUR OWN? PLESE JUST THINK ABOUT IT. SLEEP ON IT! GIVE IT SOME TIME. REALLY, WHAT WE COULD DO IS SET UP A FUND AND EVERYTIME CORPORATIONS ARE CAUGHT BREAKING THE LAW AND THEY ARE FINED WE COULD PUT THE MONEY INTO A POT THAT WOULD PAY FOR HEALTHCARE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT THAT I AM CHASING RAINBOWS CUTTING AND PASTING BUT I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN AND THE GREED OF CORPORATE AMERICA HAS GOT TO STOP. IT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY, SO AGAIN, SLEEP ON IT, THINK ABOUT IT.

  • July 27, 2009 at 9:35 am
    Joe says:
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    Sheesh, try to learn something. You’re so angry. Oboy’s health care is so bad that he and his family won’t opt for the gov’t care and the law doesn’t apply to Congress. So, they get their own special, super duper care.

    You rant about corporations, but the greatest threat to freedom is too much gov’t and the greatest crooks are in the gov’t.

    Read and learn. Read these two articles. The 2nd article compares Obama to 1984, so you’re not the only ones who are fightened by what’s being proposed by the Dems.

    TRYING TO TALK AROUND THE FACTS
    By GRACE-MARIE TURNER

    July 23, 2009 —
    PRESIDENT Obama seems to believe he can talk his way past the reality of how his sweeping health-reform plan would affect the lives of 300 million Americans.

    But alert citizens aren’t buying the sales pitch, spelling trouble for enactment of his top legislative priority.

    In an effort to generate public support for quick passage of the bills now before Congress, Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius traveled on Monday to a town-hall meeting in Reserve, La. — but the crowd wound up mocking her. Some in the audience wore “Hands Off My Health Care” T-shirts; the loudest cheers came when questioners criticized the Obama plan. Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.) similarly got laughed at during a town-hall meeting in his district when he said that the plan would save $6 billion over 10 years.

    These catcalls from the peanut gallery show that Americans just aren’t buying the idea that a major expansion of government power over our health system can possibly save money.

    The facts just aren’t lining up with the rhetoric. A few examples:

    Rhetoric: The president insisted in his news conference last night that “the bill I sign must also slow the growth of health-care costs in the long run.”

    Reality: Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad asked the man who is the top authority on the subject — Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf — if the bills before Congress would “bend the long-term cost curve” in health care.

    “No, Mr. Chairman,” Elmendorf said, adding, “the legislation significantly expands” health costs.

    Strike one.

    Rhetoric: Obama said last night his plan “will keep government out of health-care decisions, giving you the option to keep your insurance if you’re happy with it.”

    Reality: The Lewin Group, a respected economics-consulting firm, estimates in a new study for The Heritage Foundation that more than 80 million people would lose the coverage they have today if the Obama plan is implemented.

    Strike two.

    Rhetoric: President Obama has traveled the country extolling the virtues of the Mayo Clinic and other integrated health systems, saying they offer “the highest quality care at costs well below the national norm” and should be a model for the nation.

    Reality: The Mayo Clinic and 12 other top health-care-delivery outlets just sent Congress a letter, warning that the bill that already has passed two committees in the House would put them out of business.

    If the government creates its own health-insurance plan paying at Medicare rates, as the administration and Congress propose, the organizations say the result will be “unsustainable for even the nation’s most efficient, high-quality providers, eventually driving them out of the market.”

    Strike three.

    The president tried to get around these realities by saying the bills before Congress don’t meet all of his tests. But the question is, why not? He abdicates his responsibilities in not making it crystal clear which tests must be met and how.

    The nation’s governors are joining the chorus of public officials and citizens voicing serious concerns about health reform’s costs and consequences: They fear it would dump huge costs on the states at a time their coffers are running dry under the recession’s pressures.

    Undaunted, liberals still demand that Obama not budge on creating a new government health-insurance program modeled on Medicare (which, not incidentally, is set to go bankrupt in just a few years).

    Yet a key minority of Democrats and virtually all Republicans strongly oppose the “public plan” because they know it will put private insurers out of business, leaving Americans only with the “choice” of a government health program. Rep. Dan Boren (D-Okla.) told his constituents this week: “The current health-insurance plan that’s been released, in my opinion, will only exacerbate the problem.”

    The Obama team is in a game of “whack a mole” — every time it thinks it has solved one problem, another pops up.

    For example, the conservative Blue Dog Democrats met with the president on Tuesday to work out a way to keep down the reform plan’s costs. They reached an agreement to create a superagency with power to set payments for Medicare and possibly other health plans to lower health spending.

    But the chairmen of congressional committees with jurisdiction over Medicare all oppose the idea, as do many other lawmakers. They worry that voters might hold them accountable if the board were to impose spending cuts that result in reduced services.

    Obama continues to claim there’s enough consensus around reform to get to a deal. He says that both sides agree we need to lower costs, promote choice and provide coverage for every American. Unfortunately, that’s where the agreement ends — and he never confronts the simple fact that the bills he’s supporting achieve none of those goals.

    It’s the stubborn facts that are likely to sink his centralized health-reform plans.

    Grace-Marie Turner is president of the Galen Institute, a nonprofit research orga nization focused on market-based ap proaches to health reform.

    Or read this:

    RHETORIC V. REALITY:
    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    July 23, 2009 —
    PRESIDENT Obama’s rhetoric last night summoned the memory of “1984,” George Orwell’s novel of a nightmarish future — where the slogan of the rulers is “War is peace; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength.”

    The president assures us that he will cut health-care spending . . . by adding $1 trillion to health-care spending.

    He says that “health-care decisions will not be made by government” . . . while he sets up a new Federal Health Board to tell doctors what treatments they can offer and to whom and under what circumstances.

    Obama told the media, “I will free doctors to make good health-care decisions” . . . by telling the physicians what to do.

    When the president says he guarantees the “same coverage” to people who like their current health-insurance policies, he means that their current HMOs, insurers and doctors will be the ones to implement the protocols and instructions the government hands down to them — not that we’ll have our current freedom of decision-making.

    When he blandly assures us that we will “stop paying for things that don’t make us healthier,” he really means that his Federal Health Board will overrule your doctor and stop him from using his own best judgment in your treatment.

    The president will “get the politics out of health care” by putting it under government control.

    Obama says that he will not “add to the deficit” to fund health care. But the bill reported out by Rep. Charlie Rangel’s Ways and Means Committee leaves $550 billion unfunded.

    The president says that he’ll identify savings that will reduce the need for more taxes — even though the Congressional Budget Office refuses to say that his “savings” will actually work and warns that the bill will really be added to the deficit.

    He repeatedly tells us that he’ll cut health-care spending. What he means is that he will cut doctors’ incomes and will turn down patients — particularly the elderly — when they seek medical care that his bureaucrats disapprove of.

    And he ignores that cutting incomes in the medical field will reduce the number of doctors and force further rationing of care.

    The president opines that he will replace the most “expensive care” with the “best care” by empowering government officials who have never met you to substitute their judgment for that of your doctor, who has examined you thoroughly.

    When Obama laments that “14,000 people lose their insurance every day,” he is referring to the job losses that his own failed efforts to end the recession have permitted.

    He warns that health-care costs are gobbling up money that employers should use to raise wages and worker pay — yet the plans he backs would require employers to pay 8 percent of their payroll as a tax or provide insurance to their workers.

    The Obama plan highlights greater preventive care — but, at the same time, cuts medical incomes and so will cut the number of doctors who might provide it.

    The stimulus package, in the Gospel According to Barack, was “designed” to work over the next two years. But at the time, he demanded immediate passage to “jump-start the economy” — something that clearly did not happen.

    Medicare and Medicaid are “driving the deficit” even as he increased the amount of red ink by at least $800 billion in six months with little, if any, increase in the cost of either program.

    He says he “expects” banks to repay their TARP money. In fact, they’re lining up around the block to do so — but the Treasury will only permit a handful of them to do so.

    In summary, Obama’s health program will promote “lower cost and more choice” by increasing spending by $1 trillion, telling patients what care they’re permitted to have, and limiting their access to quality care.

    Orwell’s heirs should sue for violation of copyright.

  • July 27, 2009 at 10:35 am
    THE GREED OF CORPORATE says:
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    I suppose it is about time to find another venue that fools such as you haven’t found yet. I insult you because I can’t seem to get your attention any other way, you are just too thick with bone between the ears. I shouldn’t let a paid poster get to me, but once in a while I just get fed up with your trash.
    Since flood losses are not covered under most homeowners’ policies, any losses that could be attributed to flood would limit the amount of money insurers would have to pay.

    According to the article, which was written by Michael Kunzelman , the former adjusters say they inspected hundreds of properties and gathered evidence to show that wind damage was being underreported while flood damages were being inflated. Reports said that the adjusters had direct knowledge of the scheme to defraud the federal government, which is why their names are not being released.

    Among those insurers named in the suit were: Allstate Insurance Co., State Farm Fire and Casualty Co., Liberty Mutual Fire Insurance Co., Fidelity National Insurance Co., American National Property & Casualty Co., Scottsdale Insurance Co. and Travelers.
    TO thick . I get it you keep accuse me of being
    paid poster . NO SORRY KEEP TELL YOU O WANT YOU GET PAID FOR THIS RUDE BEHAVIOR.

  • July 27, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    Joe says:
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    Read the following two articles, you fool – as though gov’t is good. The worst corruption in the world is by gov’t. Gov’t., not corporations, are responsible for the worst corruption, death, and misery in the history of the world. There are many, many studies that show that gov’t corruption increases with gov’t power. But, you most assuredly, are too dumb to know this. You are capable only of reading left-wing talking points and repeating them. I’ve got a parot that can do that. I least most of us on this blog have read extensively, if not researched, the issues of health care.

    Look at the UK and Canadian health rationing system (not ‘care’). You’re probably some loser who’s jealous of anybody who’s made anything in life. Get a life, but don’t try to run mine with some fascist-type gov’t rationing system.

    Anyway, start reading, boy. You’re in serious need of some learnin’.

    PROMOTING A RACIAL-SPOILS SYSTEM
    By LINDA CHAVEZ

    July 27, 2009 —
    PRESIDENT Obama used his considerable powers of persuasion to try to sell his health-care package in a nationally televised press conference this week. But Americans are growing skeptical — and for good reason. The gargantuan new bureaucracy ObamaCare envisions would not only be inefficient and expensive but could give birth to a new racial-spoils system.

    Among the provisions in the House version are special set-asides aimed at training “underrepresented” minorities in health-care professions. The idea is that some minority groups — but not all — will be better served if their doctors share their racial and ethnic background. It’s an idea that has been floating around for years.

    In 2002, the Institute of Medicine released a study entitled “Unequal Treatment: Confronting Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Health Care” that sparked a flurry of accusations that minority patients, especially African-Americans, receive bad health care because their doctors were biased.

    The study said that “some evidence suggests that bias, prejudice and stereotyping on the part of health-care providers may contribute to differences in care.” But as Dr. Sally Satel, a highly respected physician and author, observed at the time, the “evidence” in the study was thin. ” ‘Some,’ ‘suggests’ and ‘may,’ ” she wrote, “are all the kinds of words authors use when the data are flimsy and reputations are at stake.”

    There is no question that African-Americans, on average, die younger and have poorer health than whites. What is less clear is why that is the case. Socio-economic class and behavior both play an important role. Homicide is the leading cause of death for young black males between the ages of 15-24, for example. Obesity, drug and alcohol use, and other behavioral factors play an important role in determining overall health. But will insisting on preferences for African-American students applying to medical-school admission improve health care for blacks? Not likely.

    A 2006 study by my Center for Equal Opportunity on preferential admission practices at the University of Michigan School of Medicine showed that admitting black students with lower grades and test scores is a bad idea — especially for the patients who might be treated by these doctors. Black students admitted by UMMS had substantially lower test scores and undergraduate science grade-point averages than all other groups admitted.

    Indeed, in the four years of data CEO analyzed, 11,647 white, Asian and Hispanic applicants were rejected by UMMS even though they had better grades and test scores than the average black student admitted.

    UMMS isn’t alone in using race to determine who gets in. CEO has studied preferences in medical-school admissions at more than a half-dozen schools, including the University of Maryland, the University of Washington and the State University of New York Brooklyn, all with the same overall results.

    African-American med students who are admitted despite having lower grades or test scores than their white or Asian peers are less likely to pass medical-licensing exams — or, even if they pass, are more likely to perform poorly on them.

    This hurts everyone: the better-qualified students who are passed over to admit those who will eventually fail to become doctors, and the patients who may end up treated by doctors who are less well prepared. If the idea is to get more black doctors to treat black patients, is it really going to improve health care for African-Americans if those doctors perform worse on medical-licensing exams?

    But ObamaCare will push more institutions to adopt racial preferences by giving preference to those that have, in the words of the Democratic House legislation, a “demonstrated record” of “training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds.” And notice the term “underrepresented minorities.” They may as well have put up a sign “Asians need not apply.”

    Other provisions in the Democrats’ bill would provide for “maintaining, collecting and presenting federal data on race and ethnicity,” in order to “facilitate and coordinate identification and monitoring . . . of health disparities to inform program and policy efforts to reduce such disparities.”

    We’ve seen these efforts before in the context of employment and education. Their end result is always a form of bean-counting that leads to racial quotas — which is bad medicine and won’t improve health care for anyone.

    And, you fool, read this, too:

    OBAMACARE FOLLIES: A PERILOUS RUSH
    By MICHAEL TANNER

    July 27, 2009 —
    ON Tuesday, July 14, House Democrats unveiled a health-care-reform bill that was 1,018 pages long. The next day, after all of eight hours of debate, the House Ways and Means Committee passed it. Does anyone believe they actually read the bill?

    But apparently, that doesn’t matter because, as Ways & Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-Harlem) said: “There’s an urgent need to get something done because real lives are at stake.”

    Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is insisting that the full House vote on the bill before they go home for August recess, less than a week from now. House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) says he may even pull the bill from his own committee and send it directly to the floor. “This can’t be an interminable discussion,” he says.

    President Obama, who admits that he hasn’t read the bill either, is also pushing for Congress to act quickly. “Health-care reform can’t wait,” the president said in a half dozen different variations during his most recent news conference.

    Why? What’s the rush?

    Health care represents one-sixth of the US economy, and some of the most important, personal and private decisions in people’s lives. Reform will affect everything from jobs to what treatments your doctor can prescribe. It will cost well over $1 trillion over the next 10 years, more beyond that, and impose enormous costs on the economy and higher taxes on millions of Americans. If we get health-care reform wrong, it won’t be easy to go back and fix it.

    Yes, as Chairman Rangel says, lives are at stake. But even if health-care reform passed tomorrow, most provisions of the bill won’t go into effect until 2013. And, if lives are at stake, isn’t that all the more reason why Congress should, say, read the bill? Debate it? Get it right?

    The real reason behind this railroad is that the president’s political capital is slipping away. A recent Washington Post/ABC News poll showed that four out of five Americans were concerned that Obama’s health-care reform would reduce health-care quality, increase costs, limit their choice of doctor and raise the federal deficit.

    And a Gallup poll shows a majority of voters disapproving of the president’s handling of the issue. The president understands that if people get beyond the appealing rhetoric of “coverage for everyone” and find out what is actually in the bill, they might object.

    After all, this is a health-care plan under which millions of Americans will be forced out of their current health-insurance plan and into a government-run plan. It is a plan that imposes huge new costs on American businesses and makes it more difficult to hire new workers. It is a plan that limits Americans’ choices and would almost certainly lead to the eventual rationing of care. It would do nothing to reduce health-care costs and could increase insurance premiums for millions of Americans. And, it is a plan that the head of the Congressional Budget Office says adds significantly to the federal budget deficit.

    We’ve been on this train before. President Bush insisted that we had to pass the TARP bailout immediately or we’d face an economic crisis. President Obama warned us that if we stopped to debate the stimulus bill, unemployment could top (shudder) 9 percent. And who can forget the headlong plunge into war with Iraq? With hindsight, it has become pretty obvious that maybe, just maybe, we could have done those things a bit better.

    Taking the time to get health reform right is not the same thing as doing nothing. Nor is the president’s approach the only answer to the problems facing the American health-care system. There are alternatives out there.

    Maybe we should just take a deep breath, step back and remember: “Act in haste, repent in leisure.”

    Michael Tanner is a Cato In stitute senior fellow and co-au thor of “Healthy Competition: What’s Holding Back Health Care and How to Free It.”

  • July 28, 2009 at 7:30 am
    A TRUE SENSE OF THE PAIN says:
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    A SELF-CENTERED EGO. A COMPASSIONATE MIND HAS A TRUE SENSE OF THE PAIN AND SUFFERING OF OTHERS. ALL WHO HAVE HELD OFFICE IN THIS GOVERNMENT HAVE HAD INSURANCE. YOUR QUOTE IS ”they all have health insurance that is better than almost every person on the planet”. My point is that Bush had INSURANCE AND WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT. THINK OF IT THIS WAY. ISN’T IT IRONIC THAT PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PEOPLE BUT THE PEOPLE CAN’T HAVE THE SERVICE THAT THEY ALL COMFORTABLY TAKE FOR GRANTED. IF OUR FOREFATHERS COULD COME BACK TODAY AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE CREATED I THINK IT WOULD SICKEN THEM. WE ARE AMERICANS AND ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

  • July 28, 2009 at 8:12 am
    U.S. taxpayer aid of up to says:
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    Once the world’s largest insurer, AIG has received more than $80 billion in federal loans in successive bailouts since its near-collapse last September. In total, U.S. taxpayer aid of up to $180 billion has been extended to keep the company afloat. (Reporting by Rachelle Younglai, editing by Matthew Lewis) WOW 180 BILLION GIVEN TO Once the world’s largest insurer.

  • July 30, 2009 at 8:50 am
    hooray for capitalism says:
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    I’m sure alot of you knew it, but it’s amazing how many didn’t. Barack Obama did not become President to lead the U.S. He became president to further the cause of the “oppressed black man”. He’s a racist, and he has no interest in supporting anything that will help the self sufficient responsible person, particularly white person.

    Why so many white people did not see his racism in the campaign is amazing.

  • July 30, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Hooray for Capitalism says:
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    To suggest that responsible, employed people with insurance don’t know a “true sense of pain” is stupid. Congress has insurance because they have a job which provides that benefit.

    Get a job with benefits and perhaps your pain will ease. Right now, my true sense of pain is that you exist to vote in people like Barack Obama.



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