Republican Leaders Vow Healthcare Law Repeal

By Will Dunham | July 2, 2012

  • July 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Jack says:
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    This is hillarious! Again this administration does not understand what is going on in mainstreet USA.

    “I think the thing that the American people want is for the divisive debate on healthcare to stop,” White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew said on “Fox News Sunday.

    LMAO! That is not what the majority of the American people want!

    • July 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm
      Agent says:
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      The Republican House can vote for repeal all they want, but it will fall on deaf ears in the Reid controlled Senate. The only way to get rid of this turkey is to change the Senate and the Presidency out in November. These politicians have seriously misread the will of the people, much like they did in Nov-10 in the mid terms. Oops! They didn’t see that shellacking coming.

      • July 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm
        Jack says:
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        Agent, The problem now is that there is an election in November and Bill Nelson of Florida, MaCalskal of MO, and a few others in Red states are up for re-election. Do you really think they want to vote again in favor of the OBAMACARE TAX!

  • July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    Captain Planet says:
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    I’m so old, I remember Republicans referring to the reconciliation process as the Nuclear Option and saying it’s the worst kind of practice by a Congressional body. Now, they are threatening to use it. Now THAT is hilarious! I haven’t heard or watched Hannity over the last few days. Did his head explode yet?

    • July 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm
      D says:
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      Good point. You may also remember the retoric now is the same as when Medicare was proposed and then passed. You may remember a TV spot run by the oposition with Ronald Reagan himself proclaiming that if Medicare was passed we would be going down the path to communism.

      Anyone in the lunatic fringe willing to give up their Medicare now? Do I hear any volunteers?

    • July 2, 2012 at 2:43 pm
      Jack says:
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      Captain, You didnt have a problem with them using it to pass the bill then you and they should not have a problem with the GOP using it to get rid of the bill. Actually you are only supposed to use reconsiliation for tax or revenue issues, NOW THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW, A TAX! LOL……

  • July 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm
    Retired UW says:
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    So, the Republican party’s rallying cry is that they will do everything in their power to take health insurance away from 50,000,000 Americans.

    Good luck with that…

    • July 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm
      Former Status Quo says:
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      It isn’t taking it away from them if it isn’t theirs yet. There are still close to 18 months until the 46MM receive coverage; oh and that means all 46MM will take it. There is still a considerable portion of the population that will not buy coverage and not pay the tax (because they cannot afford it).

      At the end of the day, this plan will be a burden on insurance companies and taxpayers alike. There are not going to be 30MM people who just start paying for insurance because of the fine. So you will still have the uninsured being subsidized by the insured.

      Moreover, the fine will only apply to those people who make a certain amount of money (read Robert’s decision and the law). Besides, 50% of the population does not paying taxes, why does the government think they can enforce this tax? Where is this 50% of the population going to get the money for the tax?

    • July 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm
      Retired UW says:
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      My point being that “perception” is reality. I have read and completely understand the law. Most folks have not and don’t. They will see a political party attacking what many are convinced is an entitlement and Romney leading the charge. And all this coming on the heels of Santorum trying to invade our physician’s offices and our bedrooms.

      If the Republicans use this as the foundation of their campaign, they will not win the White House, and they will lose the House majority and lose more Senate seats. If I was advising the GOP, I’d suggest they find another plank for that platform.

  • July 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm
    Collin says:
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    Retired UW: No, the Republican party’s rallying cry is to avoid paying health insurance taxes for the 50,000,000 Americans. If those Americans WANT to have insurance, they can choose to buy it like everyone else.

    • July 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm
      Bill says:
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      And who is paying for the free health care the uninsured are already getting when they go to the ER? We are!! That ER charge comes out of somebody’s budget. Do you think that charge doesn’t get passed along to all of us in the end?

      • July 3, 2012 at 9:04 am
        Scott Romoser says:
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        You are asuming every uninsured person that goes to the ER doesn’t pay their bill.

  • July 2, 2012 at 1:57 pm
    Unemployed Guy says:
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    The Republican party has lost it’s mind. Not since the robber barons has there been such greed and support of the rich. Actually the GOP is the old southern Democrats pretending to be the old GOP.

  • July 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Peter Polstein says:
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    Retired UW – no one is taking away anything my friend, you think Obamacare is free? And by the way 50 million Americans aren’t even close to the number of uninsured which doesn’t top 12 million. And by the way if you’re sick or injured and end up in the ER with or without insurance, do you not have medical assistance ? This idiotic ruling by Chief Justice which apparently now is becoming somewhat of a interesting situation as he voted against it, to have allegedly changed his mind due to pressure from the media etc.and with Justice Kennedy attempting to have him come back to his original decision if true as asserted, simply shows you the failure of the Court and in this case the Chief Justice for impartial justice UNDER the Constitution, which apparently no one gives a damn about any more.
    Be well
    Pete

  • July 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Jack says:
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    D, This is the problem with Democrats – right here from “D”

    Anyone in the lunatic fringe willing to give up their Medicare now? Do I hear any volunteers?

    Yes you create and give to bums an unfunded program, then try to take it away form these Mooches and everyone knows its politically imposible. Problem is that Democrats do it all the time.

    • July 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm
      D says:
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      I guess in your world, someone in need is just a bum or a mooch. Nice, Jack. Do you go to church on Sundays too? Medicare Part D is an unfunded program. Medicare Part D was created by a Republican majority and signed into law by a Republican President. It was the largest expansion of government run healthcare since the introduction of Medicare itself. Medicare’s Chief Actuary was threatened with losing his job if he gave a releastic opinon on how “unfunded” and destined for failure that this prescription program was to be. Part D gave the government absolutely no right to use it’s very substantial barganing power against the drug companies. They are only able to purchase drugs at “market prices”. Oh yeah, market prices and an unfunded program! How absolutely STUPID does someone have to be to create such a piece of garbage legislation? Well, it was REPUBLICANS who came up with Part D. Some of those same Republicans now vow to Repeal the Affordable Health Care Act. Part of the Afforadable Healthcare bill is designed to “fix” this garbage that the Republican majority and Republican President created in 2003.

      • July 2, 2012 at 4:05 pm
        Bill says:
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        Yes, this is one of those little details that never came out during the debate over this act. If you don’t sign up for Part D when you are eligible, you are taxed 1%/month for every month that you don’t have coverage. Why was it OK for the GOP to put that law through with no hassles? Isn’t that also a tax or at least a penalty for those that choose to not get the coverage? Is that legal? Sure looks like it was at the time.

      • July 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm
        First Agent says:
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        It is interesting D that you say that Medicare Part D was a stupid piece of garbage legislation created by Republicans. I bet not one Democrat voted for it at the time. They just love those entitlements. This was one of those bi-partisan reach across the aisle moments in Congress where the RINO’s got together with the Progressives and did the deed. Unlike Obamacare which was passed without one Republican vote and rammed through without reading the bill, I am sure our legislators did have a chance to read the Part D bill. I don’t remember anyone having to bribe a Senator or Congressman or pass it so we could see what was in it. You speak with a forked tongue.

        • July 3, 2012 at 11:17 am
          ComradeAnon says:
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          You should read just how Medicare Part D was passed. You won’t speak so kindly about it if you do.

  • July 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Jill says:
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    In reading these notes, it is hard to believe any of you are long experienced insurance company professionals.

    • July 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm
      D says:
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      Amen to that brother!

  • July 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    D says:
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    I mean sister…

  • July 2, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    DW says:
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    There is a difference between Medicare and this entitlement. I have been paying for Medicare since I started working, same as social security. I have paid in advance my premiums… It isn’t a gift from the taxpayers to the non-taxpayers.

    This bill does nothing to reform healthcare. It simply adds more rules and burdens to health insurers, which in turn, costs me, the end user, more money. For example, why should insurers be required to provide coverage to my child when they are 26. By that age, I had long graduated college and had my own employer and health insurance. There isn’t even a school clause or anything. Now, my family rates go up. Someone explain how this makes any sense.

    • July 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm
      D says:
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      Intersting that you listed an actual reform in your argument to say that the bill does nothing to reform healthcare access. The new law fixes the problems with Medicare Part D. That is a reform. It also provides access to healthcare to millions via competitive insurance exchanges and the individual mandate (two republican ideas, by the way). More reform. You also highlighted another reform (dependents insured up to age 26) but, the insured’s like me, get charged for that. You don’t, unless you have a dependent that you want covered under your plan. So, don’t choose cover your kid if you feel the way you do. To say the bill does nothing to reform healthcare is not even close to being the truth.

      • July 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm
        DW says:
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        My insurance plan doesn’t give me the option of whether I can opt out of the 26 yr coverage. My options are single or family. And according the paperwork sent by my HR department, it isn’t my decision if my 26 year old gets the coverage – unless I cancel my coverage altogether.

        I didn’t say anything about access to healthcare. The problem is the cost of healthcare. Medicare Part D is not the same as Medicare (it is private insurance purchased separately). The cost of healthcare and the cost of healthcare insurance are also very different. The bill simply shifts the cost of health insurance from the individual to the masses. And I already pay for my own.

        And I could care less who thought up the dumb idea. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work no matter whose name is on it.

        • July 3, 2012 at 11:22 am
          ComradeAnon says:
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          Medicare is private insurance.

  • July 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    Nan says:
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    Too bad the GOP doesn’t try this hard to get rid of THEIR benefits! Suspend their access to incredible coverage until everyone has access to coverage. People in MA are not complaining about their access to health insurance. Women are no longer being charged HIGHER premiums because they have reproductive organs, children born with autism are no longer being denied coverage, people who become chronically ill can purchase affordable health insurance and continue to see their doctors… MA is leading the way with ROMNEYCARE! Hypocrites one and all in the grand ole GOP.

    • July 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm
      DW says:
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      And they have increased the state deficit by $97 billion since that came about. Coincidence? I don’t like what happened in MA and I don’t like what is happening with the nation. And the funding for the MA program, most federal subsidy. Again, that money comes from somewhere, and it’s those of us who work hard. I’m fed up with this. It doesn’t have anything to do with political affiliation.

      • July 3, 2012 at 11:36 am
        ComradeAnon says:
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        The $97 Billion figure is not a deficit. That’s state debt. Two very different things. State debt refers to future obligations, THAT WILL BE PAID FOR BY FUTURE REVENUE. You’re using a comparison that would be like someone has a deficit because they have a mortgage.

        Health care reform PAYS FOR ITSELF. Sure you can yank out one part and say “See, this costs three times as much as the revenue related to it.” Look at it in the big picture. The deficit will be a little lower in 10 years with ACA, VERSUS WHAT IT WOULD BE IF THERE WERE NO REFORM. And after 20 years will be much lower.

        Actually, I find that the poorer people are, the harder they work. Medicare premiums come out of EVERYBODY’S paycheck. That’s how taxes work. You are not carrying the whole of Medicare on your shoulders.

    • July 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm
      First Agent says:
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      So Nan, how come Massachusetts has a big hole in their budget from Romneycare and Patrick has said that the plan will have to be reduced because it is bankrupting the state? Kind of like what has happened in Great Britain where they have been laying off healthcare workers because it is bankrupting the country. They are even letting 130,000 seniors die without treatmend in what is now called “Pathway to Death”. Doesn’t that sound wonderful?

      • July 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm
        ComradeAnon says:
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        They weren’t letting seniors die without treatment. Pathway to Death involved Doctors not telling family members that they had withheld liquids and nutrition in terminally ll people who they diagnosed as being near death. And any cuts to health care workers in Great Britain is part of their “Austerity” plan. They’re letting people go all over the place.

        • July 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm
          Bob says:
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          Including the 71 year old man who contracted Pneumonia?

          Near death was commonly found to be someone who was old and sick. There is a reason why UK’s people are freaking out about it.

          More people die this way than lack of insurance in our country. Our country has a fail safe: If you don’t have insurance, they treat you. Where the costs go then is irrelavent. People get treated.

          Obama’s path is the path to getting the government actively involved in those costs. And you think…That is a good idea? Our system as it is now is far better than any other nation. I don’t care what study you read, it takes common sense to know that we have about 3 facets to cover people where as other countries have one when they have universal coverage. We have government, insurance, and each other through the costs being passed on when someone can’t pay.

          And yet you whine because…People don’t have insurance. Wonderfully pessimistic as usual on the left.

        • July 5, 2012 at 3:46 pm
          First Agent says:
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          I hate to tell you this, but they are letting seniors die without treatment. This is legalized euthanasia. The Pathway to Death is exactly what it means. We are headed in that direction with the so called committees of bureaucrats who will be denying needed treatment, surgeries to senior citizens. Their reasoning is that the patient doesn’t have that long to live so why prolong it when a good end of life consultation will do just as well. Hey Mr. Senior Citizen, take a pain pill and go home and die. We will save on medical costs and when you die, you will help solve the Social Security problem as well. Never mind that you paid into Social Security your whole life and have your Medicare premiums deducted from your Social Security. We can’t afford to treat you anymore. By the way Comrade, the Austerity Plan Great Britain is under now resulted from Progressive policies and the National Healthcare Plan of that country.

    • July 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm
      Bob says:
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      If you work for an insurance company Nan you would know women do not get charged more for having lady parts.

      They get charged more for having higher costs.

      If you want men to respect you, and want for “equal rights” then don’t try to push us with the bill whenever you have needs.

      *rolls eyes*

    • July 5, 2012 at 3:07 pm
      Ralph Kramden says:
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      Hi Nan! Tell me…how are things in la-la land? You seem to have a good grip on it! Stop believing everything you hear on MSNBC, CNN, etc.

  • July 6, 2012 at 10:54 am
    Jason says:
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    I think Chief Justice Roberts opinion was deviously genious. It is going to force the healthcare issue onto the November elections. The American people will need to vote as many Dems out as possible if they want it repealed. The Republicans know this and will tout that as loud as possible. They will say Obama broke his promise of not raising taxes on the middle class. Roberts essentially proved that is what he did. He gave Republicans fodder for their cannons while making it look like he supports the Obama administration. Very clever Justice Roberts!



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