jack, you sound a lot like my doctor giving me my annual prostate exam. He snaps on that rubber glove, reaches for the Vaseline and says drop your pants and lean over. Obama has been giving us a prostate exam every day for over 6 years.
…I am in serious question of you knowledge of what ” ” is for.
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Quotation marks imply sarcasm when they are not being used to make a direct quote. Think of it like this – it’s has the same meaning here as it does when people say something in real life and make the air quotation marks with their fingers.
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I think you missed my point.
My post was a post that was mostly stating your “thank you” comment was just really not in good taste.
It wasn’t hip, clever, or a good form of sarcasm.
I was in serious question of your ability to use ” ” effectively. Saying “Thank you” to tell someone sarcastically thank you for being insulted is not exactly the way I see ” ” being used effectively.
May 18, 2015 at 2:29 pm
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It’s called irony punctuation and it was used correctly.
“Thank you” for saying my use of irony punctuation marks was done in poor taste yet completely ignoring the fact that another person was literally talking about having things shoved up his anal cavity.
Talking about things going up a bum was posted in good taste yet sarcasm indicated with quotes is done in bad taste.
Suuuuure, that makes “perfect” sense.
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Well…. If Obama says so, it must be true cause he never lies… Besides, what a few more jobs shipped over seas???
How about we roll back any Trade Deal, Dodd Frank, Obamacare, executive order on Immigration and that is just a start? Obama is the most untrustworthy President in history.
Warren makes Hillary look Conservative with her views. She takes Socialism to a new level and Farmer John, Ron and Celtica will probably vote for her if Hillary drops out.
Agent, how do you view my comment above and deduce in any way I’d vote for either? I lean more towards conservatism then liberalism by far, I just don’t think we need anyone to lead from a biblical perspective. I know there’s no such thing, but my ideal candidate would be a conservative non-believer. Probably not going to happen in my lifetime however.
You are right about one thing Farmer. You won’t find many atheists among Republican ranks. That is reserved for the Liberal Democrats who don’t believe in anything but Government solutions to life’s problems. As Nancy famously said, you don’t need God, you have the Democrats.
lol Ive been away for a bit but I am glad to see Agent is back to his old Dipshittery as usual. Let me guess, Agent. People need to take personal responsibility! except for when they should place their faith in the lord! Or is it Texico?
Grow up bro, youre smarter than this. Or thats right, you’re un-educated and lucked out being born in a growing economy, didnt you, old man?
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Stan, the unemployed 3 degree idiot is back on line with more of his crap. I can certainly see why he can’t find a job with any employer in this industry. Perhaps he was attending an OWS seminar on how best to tear business down or marching in the latest protests against cops. By the way, Progressive Socialism does not work. We have 6+ years of evidence to go by.
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agent, you are a numbskull. The economy has never been stronger and stocks are at an alltime high with housing and jobs recovering at their fastest rate since, well, before the Bush administration ruined it with a $1trillion dollar unfunded war, medicare part D, and the loss of thousands of american lives.
lol republicans – arguably the worst thing that has ever happened to any country ever. The AIDS of political parties.
And for the record, I did get a job. Doing well. got promoted even. i knew you would be proud.
May 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm
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On top of that, saying “trade pact” is racist when talking to a woman 1/64 redskin.
On top of that, calling someone a racist just because they use the phrase “trade pact” while simultaneously posting something racist yourself (the last word you wrote) is pretty hypocritical.
jack, didn’t you know you can’t say “Redskin” to a liberal group since it is so terrible to them? We can have the Atlanta Braves, the Cleveland Indians, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Florida State Seminoles, but not the Washington Redskins since it is so offensive to their politically correct belief system. Our former Senate Majority leader wanted them to change to the “Reidskins”.
Listen, Agent. “Redskin” is not a tribe name, or a rank in a tribe (like Chief), or a word that has ANY positive meaning (like Brave).
Your post is similar to me saying “We have the Patriots, the Cowboys and the 49ers, but why can’t we have The Crackers?!?”
Would you call a Jewish person the K-word, a black person the N-word or a Chinese person the Ch-word? “Redskin” is offensive, disparaging, and insulting.
Rosenblatt, the team was one of the first NFL teams with that name and no one thought anything about it for 70 years until the politically correct liberals objected to it. Ask anyone who is a Redskin fan if they think it is objectionable. By the way, look at the face on the uniform of the Atlanta Braves or Cleveland Indians sometime. It is as red as can be. Could they have just used a tan face instead. I don’t know any Indians with red faces.
there were a lot of other words for ethnic groups that were used 70 years ago which are considered extremely offensive today. Just because something was acceptable in the past does not make it so in the present. Times have changed.
The majority of Native Americans are saying that is a racist term and that they are offended by its use; therefore, it is racist to call them by that name.
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Actually, Agent, Native Americans are the ones fighting to change the team’s name.
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I don’t get offended when someone calls me by the color of my skin. Its what I am. When I am buzzing around Wi, there are many Am Indians around there. When sitting in the casino and asking about sports bets, they don’t blink an eye calling the Redskins the Red skins.
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Any one watch Letterman last night? Don Rickles & Howard Stern had no issues calling themselves Jews.
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FFA – Native American’s don’t literally have red pigment in their skin making their skin appear red, just like Asian people don’t literally have yellow skin. I am not be offended when someone calls me “white”, but I would be offended if they called me a “cracker”
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FFA – As for your Letterman comment – I didn’t see it, but “Jewish” or “Jews” is not a slur. If they called themselves the Ki-word instead, THEN it would be a fair comparison.
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I guess I am just not as sensitive as others.
The Lettermen bit was hysterical. Don Rickles has always been a fav. Reminds me of being a kid watching TV with my folks.
Hey Rosenblatt, the Nazi’s didn’t have any trouble slurring “Jews” in WW2. In fact, they plastered “Juden” over their shop windows. It has always been a slur or object of derision and then they took them to the concentration camps and tried to exterminate a whole race.
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Juden is not a slur Agent, it LITERALLY means Jews. The issue with the Nazi’s use of it was not the word itself, but that they made Jews wear a “scarlet letter.” Nazi’s forced the Jews to wear the Star of David too, but that image is not a slur just like Juden is not a slur. Give it a rest.
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“Cracker” doesn’t bother me. Though I do prefer “White Bread”.
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Do you think Braves has a positive meaning? How so?
Seriously!??! Brave means “having or showing courage”, so yeah, that word has a positive meaning. SMH
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A Brave is just a name given to young Indian men part of a tribe, nothing more. The chief was the leader and the “braves” were the followers.
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Once again Agent, your understanding of what a specific word means is wrong. If you want to get literal and define Brave specific to Native Americans…
“The male version of the noble savage is The Brave. He is peaceful, kills only to eat or to defend his family, and is not wasteful. The Brave is a spiritual, mystic guardian of the land who exists in harmony with, and as icon of America’s wilderness past”
…it still has a positive meaning
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jack, do you find it as hilarious as I do to see the Democrats ripping into Obama for his “sexist” remarks against Warren? He apparently has lost a lot of his far left support now. Lame duck personified.
FFA, Rickles has gotten away with a lot over the years and says what he wants and gets a pass on it because he is a comedian. By the way, last fall, the “Redskins” were playing a game in Arizona and the owner had a local Indian chief in his box watching the game. He had no problem with the team name. I am originally from Oklahoma, home of the 5 civilized tribes and have friends up there. They think it is a joke that politically correct liberals are making such a stink about it. It is just a mascot name and it means nothing.
“They’ve never asked Native Americans,” Chippewa Cree tribesman Wade Colliflower explain “It’s somebody else who knows nothing about us trying to speak for us. It’s kind of an insult.”
John Warren, Chairman of the Pokagon Band of the Potawatomi, in Michigan and Indiana: “To me, I look at it as a part of an old, institutionalized racism.”
Herb Stevens, director of the San Carlos Apache Cultural Center: “It’s an honor to be recognized as being ‘Native,’ but not to be called a redskin.”
John Bush, Ph.D. in education, Vice Chair of the San Carlos Apache Tribe: “If most people would research, they would understand it’s very negative, and maybe they would take a different approach
“We found opponents of the name in 18 tribes: veterans of the U.S. military, lawyers, college students, cultural center employees, school volunteers and restaurant servers. Their viewpoints align with official statements from dozens of tribes or inter-tribal councils and from the NCAI, which represents more than 250 tribal governments at the Embassy of Tribal Nations. Many of these people wondered how, or if, their voices are being counted.”
Rosenblatt, I can’t believe you really said that the Nazi’s didn’t mean Judan/Jews as a slur and a sign of persecution. They wanted every German to know that the Jews were to be shunned and persecuted and it was effective. Then, the roundups started and they were shipped off to be exterminated. Give it a rest. You are on the wrong side of what really went on.
I agree the Nazi’s use of that term was a sign of persecution BACK THEN. RIGHT NOW, Jews do not equate “Juden” with racism.
If a Neo-Nazi yelled “hey Juden” while holding a picture of Hitler today, then it is a racist term again. If one Jew turns to another and says “Hi Juden” = no racism. This is 100% comparable to the N-word white people can’t use today.
PS – My family grew up in both Poland and Germany during that time period and my grandparents emigrated to the US to avoid the Nazi’s taking more of our family off to Concentration Camps.
I will believe my family’s first-hand experiences about what life was really like back then for Jews before I agree with your gut of what it MIGHT HAVE been like for our people.
Care to apologize for saying a Jewish person was on the wrong side of what really went on in WW2 in Germany? Or do you really think I’m backing the Nazi’s here?
I don’t have first hand knowledge of what Jewish families went through during the war years Rosenblatt, but I have read quite a bit and I also watch the Military Channel who often has actual footage of what it was like, showed Jews being loaded onto trains and actually showed the concentration camps, ovens, piled bodies etc. It was the worst case of man’s inhumanity to man in history. Some on the left try to deny the holocaust and said it never happened. There is just too much documentation. I am glad your family got out so you would be here today. I still believe the Nazi’s meant Juden as a slur and an identification to persecute Jews.
Nobody on the left denies the holocaust. The ones denying it are the right-wing skin-heads, neo-nazis, KKK, white supremacists, and islamic extremists. Those are all right-wing groups. Iran is an extremely right-wing, conservative country, where holocaust-denial is rather strong. In fact, all of the islamic extremist countries are right-wing conservative nations. They all believe in the magical sky-fairy and try to force their religion on everyone else, just like the right-wing religious fanatics in this country. Birds of a feather.
May 14, 2015 at 8:41 am
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Your non-apology for telling a Jewish person they are on the wrong side of the WW2/Nazi argument — and for implying a Jewish person would know less about what terms Jews find racist compared to someone who read a few books and watched TV about the Holocaust — is accepted.
“I’d have to be pretty stupid. And it doesn’t make any sense.” He said it….not me. LEAN FORWARD AMERICA
jack, you sound a lot like my doctor giving me my annual prostate exam. He snaps on that rubber glove, reaches for the Vaseline and says drop your pants and lean over. Obama has been giving us a prostate exam every day for over 6 years.
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Are you one of those “girly” guys or a woman? If you throw up after reading that, you need some major psychological help.
“thank you” for insulting me
…I am in serious question of you knowledge of what ” ” is for.
Quotation marks imply sarcasm when they are not being used to make a direct quote. Think of it like this – it’s has the same meaning here as it does when people say something in real life and make the air quotation marks with their fingers.
*it has
(using an asterisk like this means I am making a correction to my previous post, changing “it’s has” to “it has”)
I think you missed my point.
My post was a post that was mostly stating your “thank you” comment was just really not in good taste.
It wasn’t hip, clever, or a good form of sarcasm.
I was in serious question of your ability to use ” ” effectively. Saying “Thank you” to tell someone sarcastically thank you for being insulted is not exactly the way I see ” ” being used effectively.
It’s called irony punctuation and it was used correctly.
“Thank you” for saying my use of irony punctuation marks was done in poor taste yet completely ignoring the fact that another person was literally talking about having things shoved up his anal cavity.
Talking about things going up a bum was posted in good taste yet sarcasm indicated with quotes is done in bad taste.
Suuuuure, that makes “perfect” sense.
Well…. If Obama says so, it must be true cause he never lies… Besides, what a few more jobs shipped over seas???
How about we roll back any Trade Deal, Dodd Frank, Obamacare, executive order on Immigration and that is just a start? Obama is the most untrustworthy President in history.
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“If you like your medical insurance policy you can keep it”
“If you like your doctor you can keep them”
And so on and so on……
Wow, you know you’re a liberal when even Obama beats on you!
Warren makes Hillary look Conservative with her views. She takes Socialism to a new level and Farmer John, Ron and Celtica will probably vote for her if Hillary drops out.
Agent, how do you view my comment above and deduce in any way I’d vote for either? I lean more towards conservatism then liberalism by far, I just don’t think we need anyone to lead from a biblical perspective. I know there’s no such thing, but my ideal candidate would be a conservative non-believer. Probably not going to happen in my lifetime however.
You are right about one thing Farmer. You won’t find many atheists among Republican ranks. That is reserved for the Liberal Democrats who don’t believe in anything but Government solutions to life’s problems. As Nancy famously said, you don’t need God, you have the Democrats.
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Shirley, you should go back to your Common Core school and learn how to spell.
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Stan, the unemployed 3 degree idiot is back on line with more of his crap. I can certainly see why he can’t find a job with any employer in this industry. Perhaps he was attending an OWS seminar on how best to tear business down or marching in the latest protests against cops. By the way, Progressive Socialism does not work. We have 6+ years of evidence to go by.
agent, you are a numbskull. The economy has never been stronger and stocks are at an alltime high with housing and jobs recovering at their fastest rate since, well, before the Bush administration ruined it with a $1trillion dollar unfunded war, medicare part D, and the loss of thousands of american lives.
lol republicans – arguably the worst thing that has ever happened to any country ever. The AIDS of political parties.
And for the record, I did get a job. Doing well. got promoted even. i knew you would be proud.
On top of that, saying “trade pact” is racist when talking to a woman 1/64 redskin.
On top of that, calling someone a racist just because they use the phrase “trade pact” while simultaneously posting something racist yourself (the last word you wrote) is pretty hypocritical.
jack, didn’t you know you can’t say “Redskin” to a liberal group since it is so terrible to them? We can have the Atlanta Braves, the Cleveland Indians, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Florida State Seminoles, but not the Washington Redskins since it is so offensive to their politically correct belief system. Our former Senate Majority leader wanted them to change to the “Reidskins”.
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Rosenblatt, the team was one of the first NFL teams with that name and no one thought anything about it for 70 years until the politically correct liberals objected to it. Ask anyone who is a Redskin fan if they think it is objectionable. By the way, look at the face on the uniform of the Atlanta Braves or Cleveland Indians sometime. It is as red as can be. Could they have just used a tan face instead. I don’t know any Indians with red faces.
there were a lot of other words for ethnic groups that were used 70 years ago which are considered extremely offensive today. Just because something was acceptable in the past does not make it so in the present. Times have changed.
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Actually, Agent, Native Americans are the ones fighting to change the team’s name.
I don’t get offended when someone calls me by the color of my skin. Its what I am. When I am buzzing around Wi, there are many Am Indians around there. When sitting in the casino and asking about sports bets, they don’t blink an eye calling the Redskins the Red skins.
Any one watch Letterman last night? Don Rickles & Howard Stern had no issues calling themselves Jews.
FFA – Native American’s don’t literally have red pigment in their skin making their skin appear red, just like Asian people don’t literally have yellow skin. I am not be offended when someone calls me “white”, but I would be offended if they called me a “cracker”
FFA – As for your Letterman comment – I didn’t see it, but “Jewish” or “Jews” is not a slur. If they called themselves the Ki-word instead, THEN it would be a fair comparison.
I guess I am just not as sensitive as others.
The Lettermen bit was hysterical. Don Rickles has always been a fav. Reminds me of being a kid watching TV with my folks.
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Juden is not a slur Agent, it LITERALLY means Jews. The issue with the Nazi’s use of it was not the word itself, but that they made Jews wear a “scarlet letter.” Nazi’s forced the Jews to wear the Star of David too, but that image is not a slur just like Juden is not a slur. Give it a rest.
“Cracker” doesn’t bother me. Though I do prefer “White Bread”.
Do you think Braves has a positive meaning? How so?
Seriously!??! Brave means “having or showing courage”, so yeah, that word has a positive meaning. SMH
A Brave is just a name given to young Indian men part of a tribe, nothing more. The chief was the leader and the “braves” were the followers.
Once again Agent, your understanding of what a specific word means is wrong. If you want to get literal and define Brave specific to Native Americans…
“The male version of the noble savage is The Brave. He is peaceful, kills only to eat or to defend his family, and is not wasteful. The Brave is a spiritual, mystic guardian of the land who exists in harmony with, and as icon of America’s wilderness past”
…it still has a positive meaning
jack, do you find it as hilarious as I do to see the Democrats ripping into Obama for his “sexist” remarks against Warren? He apparently has lost a lot of his far left support now. Lame duck personified.
FFA, Rickles has gotten away with a lot over the years and says what he wants and gets a pass on it because he is a comedian. By the way, last fall, the “Redskins” were playing a game in Arizona and the owner had a local Indian chief in his box watching the game. He had no problem with the team name. I am originally from Oklahoma, home of the 5 civilized tribes and have friends up there. They think it is a joke that politically correct liberals are making such a stink about it. It is just a mascot name and it means nothing.
Whom ever brought the race card into this must be an ACLU member.
Your friends are in the minority.
“They’ve never asked Native Americans,” Chippewa Cree tribesman Wade Colliflower explain “It’s somebody else who knows nothing about us trying to speak for us. It’s kind of an insult.”
John Warren, Chairman of the Pokagon Band of the Potawatomi, in Michigan and Indiana: “To me, I look at it as a part of an old, institutionalized racism.”
Herb Stevens, director of the San Carlos Apache Cultural Center: “It’s an honor to be recognized as being ‘Native,’ but not to be called a redskin.”
John Bush, Ph.D. in education, Vice Chair of the San Carlos Apache Tribe: “If most people would research, they would understand it’s very negative, and maybe they would take a different approach
“We found opponents of the name in 18 tribes: veterans of the U.S. military, lawyers, college students, cultural center employees, school volunteers and restaurant servers. Their viewpoints align with official statements from dozens of tribes or inter-tribal councils and from the NCAI, which represents more than 250 tribal governments at the Embassy of Tribal Nations. Many of these people wondered how, or if, their voices are being counted.”
Rosenblatt, I can’t believe you really said that the Nazi’s didn’t mean Judan/Jews as a slur and a sign of persecution. They wanted every German to know that the Jews were to be shunned and persecuted and it was effective. Then, the roundups started and they were shipped off to be exterminated. Give it a rest. You are on the wrong side of what really went on.
I agree the Nazi’s use of that term was a sign of persecution BACK THEN. RIGHT NOW, Jews do not equate “Juden” with racism.
If a Neo-Nazi yelled “hey Juden” while holding a picture of Hitler today, then it is a racist term again. If one Jew turns to another and says “Hi Juden” = no racism. This is 100% comparable to the N-word white people can’t use today.
PS – My family grew up in both Poland and Germany during that time period and my grandparents emigrated to the US to avoid the Nazi’s taking more of our family off to Concentration Camps.
I will believe my family’s first-hand experiences about what life was really like back then for Jews before I agree with your gut of what it MIGHT HAVE been like for our people.
Care to apologize for saying a Jewish person was on the wrong side of what really went on in WW2 in Germany? Or do you really think I’m backing the Nazi’s here?
I don’t have first hand knowledge of what Jewish families went through during the war years Rosenblatt, but I have read quite a bit and I also watch the Military Channel who often has actual footage of what it was like, showed Jews being loaded onto trains and actually showed the concentration camps, ovens, piled bodies etc. It was the worst case of man’s inhumanity to man in history. Some on the left try to deny the holocaust and said it never happened. There is just too much documentation. I am glad your family got out so you would be here today. I still believe the Nazi’s meant Juden as a slur and an identification to persecute Jews.
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Your non-apology for telling a Jewish person they are on the wrong side of the WW2/Nazi argument — and for implying a Jewish person would know less about what terms Jews find racist compared to someone who read a few books and watched TV about the Holocaust — is accepted.