FFA, remember when our fearless leader took his first “shellacking” in the mid terms and came out and said – Maybe we just didn’t communicate our ideas well, and that is why so many of his followers lost their seat after voting for the travesty called Obamacare. I am afraid the voters understood all too well what the ideas were and that is why it was rejected.
Or, the “shellacking” (your word, not mine) Romney took from our President when Mittens ran on a referendum on The President and the ACA, not to mention car elevators, files full of women, and an illegal on his cleaning staff. President Obama did an excellent job of communicating his platform vs. that of his opponent and said it was going to be left up to the voters. Karl Rove couldn’t even steal the election. I’m afraid the voters understood all too well what the conservative ideas were and that is why they were rejected.
Or, the “shellacking” (your word, not mine) Romney took from our President when Mittens ran on a referendum on The President and the ACA, not to mention car elevators, files full of women, and an illegal on his cleaning staff. President Obama did an excellent job of communicating his platform vs. that of his opponent and said it was going to be left to the voters. Karl Rove couldn’t even steal the election. I’m afraid the voters understood all too well what the conservative ideas were and that is why they were rejected.
You and Ron do not know of the healthcare plans presented by republicans, and the over a dozen presented by Bush W, as well as the over 20 presented during Obama.
The liberal agenda has done well hiding their plans.
The expanded retirement plans are not well known either.
The public did not know the conservative agenda and vote against it.
This is exactly my problem with you and your false characterizations of me.
I am aware of the Republican plans for health care. The problem I have is that will not put them to paper in the form of a bill. They have been all talk, no action.
February 12, 2016 at 1:23 pm
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I know you well, and your delusional statement proves my point.
WHY DIDN’T THE PLANS BECOME IN ACTION???
You blame them because democrats blocked 20 bills? Or another dozen during Bush’s presidency?
They took action and were blocked by about 10% of all republicans, 90% of all democrats.
And you didn’t know of the plans. I had to link them to you. You’re a liar.
Regarding the retirement funds, you didn’t know about them. I had to link you them. You’re a liar.
List to me a republican plan and it’s features and state why you would have or would not have supported it.
Can’t do it can you?
You don’t know the plans.
List to me why you would have supported Bush W’s plans or would not have. Moreover, list the debate on it.
You can’t can you?
You have not one clue about them.
You’re a liar, that plain and simple Ron.
Just like Planet, you have claimed republicans have had no plans, despite them being everywhere and being blocked by democrats.
February 12, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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Bob,
I have asked before, I will ask again, please cite the name and number of the Republican bills, not proposals since 2010. If there are 20 it should be easy.
I know about the plans BECAUSE you linked them. It is called listening and learning. You should try it sometime.
Republican plans call for;
1. Allowing the sale of policies across state lines – Calls for either Federal Regulation of health insurance or 2 states fighting over what should be available in their states.
2. Tort reform – While I think this should happen, it has been shown to reduce premiums less than 2%
3. Creation of high-risk pools, subsidized with tax payer money – this is still the healthy subsidizing the sick. No different than just insuring the sick with the heakthy on the same plan.
4. Allowing groups to pool together to reduce costs -I also like this idea. However, wouldn’t Universal Health Care be the ultimate of this idea?
Where in my posts did I mention retirement plans? Again, you are putting words in my mouth to satisfy your narrative about me.
You never responded to my post when I cited multiple sources showing President Obama proposed decreasing the corporate tax rate.
What do you hate more, being wrong or me being the one who points it out and prove you wrong?
Or, the “shellacking” (your word, not mine) Romney took from our President when Mittens ran on a referendum on The President and the ACA, not to mention car elevators, files full of women, and an illegal on his cleaning staff. President Obama did an excellent job of communicating his platform vs. that of his opponent and said it was going to be left to the voters. Karl Rove couldn’t even steal the election. I’m afraid the voters understood all too well what the conservative ideas were and that is why they were rejected.
Or, the “shellacking” (your word, not mine) Romney took from our President when Mittens ran on a referendum on The President and the ACA, not to mention car elevators, files full of women, and an illegal on his cleaning staff. President Obama did an excellent job of communicating his platform vs. that of his opponent and said it was going to be left to the voters. Karl Rove couldn’t even steal the election. I’m afraid the voters understood all too well what the conservative ideas were and that is why they were rejected. Rejected twice.
Why hasn’t Cadillac objected to the use of their name here? They should call it the Duisenberg tax because it’s out of business and so should obamacare.
This administration relies heavily on statements indicating experts, scientists, etc. agree. Reminds me of a George Costanza line: “Jerry, just remember. It’s not a lie if you believe it.”
Thats awesome Buckeye! I forgot about that episode…. Applies to oBama and his believers. Just saw the Soup Nazi. I made a reference to Obama being the Health Insurance Nazi in my own head. Wish I could remember it cause it made me laugh.
Buckeye, Lawyers/Politicians are word parsers on steroids. They can twist things around so it can be interpreted many different ways. The only way you can tell if they are lying is when they move their lips. I think it depends on what part of the country you are from and whether you know right from wrong to make judgments on what is being said. Obama, Ezekiel Emanuel, Jonathon Gruber are the authors of the biggest lie ever sold to the American People and no, Obamacare cannot be fixed with band aids or adjustments/delays in a tax.
agent2, when Hilliary is indicted, they won’t have to use a sound bite against her. I agree that HHS has been busy since the “law” was passed adding thousands of pages to it. Scholars can’t come close to understanding it and that is just what the Progressives want. They do seem to like complications, don’t they?
Listen, we have to dispel the fiction that Agent knows what he’s talking about. He knows exactly nothing of which he speaks. He is trying to make this forum just like other conservative forums. Right-wingin’, bitter-clingin’, proud clingers. Please clap.
Listen, we have to stop pretending Mike doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing, hiding posts from those he disagrees with. He is trying to make this forum just like other conservative forums. Right wingin’, bitter clingin’, proud clingers. Please clap.
Listen, we have to dispel the fiction that Agent knows what he’s talking about. He knows exactly nothing of which he speaks and he is trying to make this forum just like other conservative forums. Right-wingin’, bitter-clingin’, proud clingers. Please clap.
February 11, 2016 at 4:11 pm
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Buckeye, your guy did better in New Hampshire since he spent a lot of time and money there wooing the moderate vote/secular crowd. They said he spent $3.7 million there to get out the vote for him. Cruz spent about $500,000 and came in third. I think Kasich will have more problems in the south with the voters, but at least he had a respectable showing. He also needs to stop with the Ohio talking points with every breath. It gets old and Marko got in trouble for repeating too much.
They all repeat their message and talking points. Marco just nervously malfunctioned on national television by going M-m-m-m-m–Max Hedrom. It was hilarious Christie called him out. At the same time, sad to see Marco’s brain misfiring. Maybe he just needed to reach for a bottle of water or something. No matter, he’s toast. Onto the next clown. Kasich is the only Right candidate that could be electable.
They all repeat their message and talking points on both sides. Marco just nervously malfunctioned on national television by going M-m-m-m-m–Max Hedrom. It was hilarious Christie called him out. At the same time, sad to see Marco’s brain misfiring. Maybe he just needed to reach for a bottle of water or something. No matter, he’s toast. Onto the next clown. Kasich is the only Right candidate that could be electable.
Paul Van der Water, a researcher at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said about the Cadillac tax: “It could slow health-care cost growth by discouraging firms from buying extremely expensive health coverage that promotes excess use and inefficient delivery of health care.”
Who the f*ck are you to say WE THE PEOPLE shouldn’t have a choice to use healthcare the way we want? What a bloated retard. If a company wants to provide benefits that are greater than others, why do you care? We should have a choice that benefits us. Period.
That’s what capitalism is you stupid shit for brains. It promotes competitiveness in the marketplace. Choice allows for innovation. This law does NONE of that. It stifles, it reprimands those who can afford greater coverage and forces all of us to pay into a system we don’t want and we didn’t agree to. It interestingly (sarcasm) tries to put every American on equal ground when it comes to our health. Shocking that this theme of fake “Robin Hoodism” is again evidenced by the administration here…the rich get punished for being rich while the poor are encouraged to stay poor until the system is “corrected” by all of us being in the same Nanny bubble.
You are 100% correct Supreme. One size fits all and all of it bad. For those who cannot afford it, give them Medicaid, also bad. After all, he did tell Joe the Plumber that he had to spread the wealth around. How Socialist can one get? Is it any wonder that around the country has sprung up Doc in the boxes to treat people? They go there for routine care, urgent care, pay cash or put on pay plans because they can’t afford the deductibles they have been forced to carry.
Modifying the Cadillac Tax = re-arranging the deck chairs.
Yea… The Cadi Tax is all thats wrong with it.
What about the other 20 taxes in Obamacare that needs to be repealed?
FFA, remember when our fearless leader took his first “shellacking” in the mid terms and came out and said – Maybe we just didn’t communicate our ideas well, and that is why so many of his followers lost their seat after voting for the travesty called Obamacare. I am afraid the voters understood all too well what the ideas were and that is why it was rejected.
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No. They didn’t.
You and Ron do not know of the healthcare plans presented by republicans, and the over a dozen presented by Bush W, as well as the over 20 presented during Obama.
The liberal agenda has done well hiding their plans.
The expanded retirement plans are not well known either.
The public did not know the conservative agenda and vote against it.
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I know you well, and your delusional statement proves my point.
WHY DIDN’T THE PLANS BECOME IN ACTION???
You blame them because democrats blocked 20 bills? Or another dozen during Bush’s presidency?
They took action and were blocked by about 10% of all republicans, 90% of all democrats.
And you didn’t know of the plans. I had to link them to you. You’re a liar.
Regarding the retirement funds, you didn’t know about them. I had to link you them. You’re a liar.
List to me a republican plan and it’s features and state why you would have or would not have supported it.
Can’t do it can you?
You don’t know the plans.
List to me why you would have supported Bush W’s plans or would not have. Moreover, list the debate on it.
You can’t can you?
You have not one clue about them.
You’re a liar, that plain and simple Ron.
Just like Planet, you have claimed republicans have had no plans, despite them being everywhere and being blocked by democrats.
Bob,
I have asked before, I will ask again, please cite the name and number of the Republican bills, not proposals since 2010. If there are 20 it should be easy.
I know about the plans BECAUSE you linked them. It is called listening and learning. You should try it sometime.
Republican plans call for;
1. Allowing the sale of policies across state lines – Calls for either Federal Regulation of health insurance or 2 states fighting over what should be available in their states.
2. Tort reform – While I think this should happen, it has been shown to reduce premiums less than 2%
3. Creation of high-risk pools, subsidized with tax payer money – this is still the healthy subsidizing the sick. No different than just insuring the sick with the heakthy on the same plan.
4. Allowing groups to pool together to reduce costs -I also like this idea. However, wouldn’t Universal Health Care be the ultimate of this idea?
Where in my posts did I mention retirement plans? Again, you are putting words in my mouth to satisfy your narrative about me.
You never responded to my post when I cited multiple sources showing President Obama proposed decreasing the corporate tax rate.
What do you hate more, being wrong or me being the one who points it out and prove you wrong?
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Or, the “shellacking” (your word, not mine) Romney took from our President when Mittens ran on a referendum on The President and the ACA, not to mention car elevators, files full of women, and an illegal on his cleaning staff. President Obama did an excellent job of communicating his platform vs. that of his opponent and said it was going to be left to the voters. Karl Rove couldn’t even steal the election. I’m afraid the voters understood all too well what the conservative ideas were and that is why they were rejected. Rejected twice.
Why hasn’t Cadillac objected to the use of their name here? They should call it the Duisenberg tax because it’s out of business and so should obamacare.
Packard, Studebaker, Edsel?
This administration relies heavily on statements indicating experts, scientists, etc. agree. Reminds me of a George Costanza line: “Jerry, just remember. It’s not a lie if you believe it.”
Thats awesome Buckeye! I forgot about that episode…. Applies to oBama and his believers. Just saw the Soup Nazi. I made a reference to Obama being the Health Insurance Nazi in my own head. Wish I could remember it cause it made me laugh.
Buckeye, Lawyers/Politicians are word parsers on steroids. They can twist things around so it can be interpreted many different ways. The only way you can tell if they are lying is when they move their lips. I think it depends on what part of the country you are from and whether you know right from wrong to make judgments on what is being said. Obama, Ezekiel Emanuel, Jonathon Gruber are the authors of the biggest lie ever sold to the American People and no, Obamacare cannot be fixed with band aids or adjustments/delays in a tax.
Maybe another 10,000 pages of amendments to the original 10,000 pages?
I forgot about Grubers and Raisinettes……….that’s a soundbite the republicans should be using against Hillary!!!
agent2, when Hilliary is indicted, they won’t have to use a sound bite against her. I agree that HHS has been busy since the “law” was passed adding thousands of pages to it. Scholars can’t come close to understanding it and that is just what the Progressives want. They do seem to like complications, don’t they?
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Funny, but I like this better (sound is a little low)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Ua53PJlv8
You need to stop Cyber Stalking.
FFA – that wasn’t directed at me, was it?
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Listen, we have to dispel the fiction that Agent knows what he’s talking about. He knows exactly nothing of which he speaks and he is trying to make this forum just like other conservative forums. Right-wingin’, bitter-clingin’, proud clingers. Please clap.
Buckeye, your guy did better in New Hampshire since he spent a lot of time and money there wooing the moderate vote/secular crowd. They said he spent $3.7 million there to get out the vote for him. Cruz spent about $500,000 and came in third. I think Kasich will have more problems in the south with the voters, but at least he had a respectable showing. He also needs to stop with the Ohio talking points with every breath. It gets old and Marko got in trouble for repeating too much.
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They all repeat their message and talking points on both sides. Marco just nervously malfunctioned on national television by going M-m-m-m-m–Max Hedrom. It was hilarious Christie called him out. At the same time, sad to see Marco’s brain misfiring. Maybe he just needed to reach for a bottle of water or something. No matter, he’s toast. Onto the next clown. Kasich is the only Right candidate that could be electable.
Paul Van der Water, a researcher at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said about the Cadillac tax: “It could slow health-care cost growth by discouraging firms from buying extremely expensive health coverage that promotes excess use and inefficient delivery of health care.”
Who the f*ck are you to say WE THE PEOPLE shouldn’t have a choice to use healthcare the way we want? What a bloated retard. If a company wants to provide benefits that are greater than others, why do you care? We should have a choice that benefits us. Period.
That’s what capitalism is you stupid shit for brains. It promotes competitiveness in the marketplace. Choice allows for innovation. This law does NONE of that. It stifles, it reprimands those who can afford greater coverage and forces all of us to pay into a system we don’t want and we didn’t agree to. It interestingly (sarcasm) tries to put every American on equal ground when it comes to our health. Shocking that this theme of fake “Robin Hoodism” is again evidenced by the administration here…the rich get punished for being rich while the poor are encouraged to stay poor until the system is “corrected” by all of us being in the same Nanny bubble.
You are 100% correct Supreme. One size fits all and all of it bad. For those who cannot afford it, give them Medicaid, also bad. After all, he did tell Joe the Plumber that he had to spread the wealth around. How Socialist can one get? Is it any wonder that around the country has sprung up Doc in the boxes to treat people? They go there for routine care, urgent care, pay cash or put on pay plans because they can’t afford the deductibles they have been forced to carry.
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Next up, more obstruction from The Right on any Supreme Court replacement appointments. So predictable.