I haven’t followed the details of the DNC staffer who was murdered. That is irrelevant to the story about USAA and their spokesman.
But, when a company spokesman (Roger Wildermuth) says the company he represents doesn’t sponsor opinionated programs, yet they sponsor MSNBC, that is the zenith of ignorance, incompetence, and mis-communication by a person whose job is to communicate facts.
For the spokesman to then say the ads on ‘MS-LSD’ were a mistake, that is the zenith of fraud. USAA is a very good company which needs to replace a very bad, Wild-mouthed spokesman.
Rice, USAA is proud of their history of serving the military and retired military. One could not have a better supporter of the military than Sean Hannity. Sounds to me like USAA is trying to be politically correct and fall into the trap of left wing politics. We saw how that worked with James Comey when he went bonkers to protect Hilliary and her minions. Hopefully, all that went on with him will be brought out soon by Sessions. How about some grand juries being summoned and let’s get to it.
Extremely short-sighted of USAA. Right before Memorial Day! I, too am investigating moving my insurance and asset account elsewhere soon unless USAA discovers who its MEMBERS really are.
Says the person who wants to believe the Steele report, a report that was funded by the opponents of Trump, and makes the craziest accusations I have ever seen of a report.
Says the person who believes there are multiple Russian spies in the government. Says the person who believes the Russians love conservatives, and want to infiltrate France conservatives as well as America’s conservatives.
While there are whack jobs on all sides, everything I just listed is not just you, it’s your party.
However, the conspiracy theorists regarding this murder, are not the people in policy making decisions.
You pulling your advertisement from Hannity is awful. Hannity is one of the few people on TV that tell the truth. Looking at your commercials, I thought your company was honest. Hannity was just trying to find out the truth about DNC Staffer that was not murdered for his money. I am going to boycott your company.
At this point I can’t blame them for wanting no part of “political opinion” based shows. The response alone is enough evidence. Our nation has become so politically polarized and pig-headed you alienate half the country no matter what you do. As long as it’s not just Hannity, they are in-fact pulling ads on both sides, they are good. Those of you that attack USAA for making this decision don’t realize you are the reason for it. “Drink the conservative kool-aid or get out of my country.” You all make me sick. And before you go nuts on me, the liberals who say the same about you are exactly as bad. No more, no less. You’re all political fanatics. It’s a wonder you haven’t started a second civil war already. Don’t believe me? Tell me, who was the last liberal republican or conservative democrat that actually has a shot at the white house? It’s nothing but selfish bible-thumpers vs. entitled cry-babies. Hannity, is a propagandist, so is Maddow. Their JOB is to incite you, piss you off at the other side, because it gets ratings! It’s all toxic bs and I’m shocked so many people fall for it. Good for the USAA getting away from it.
Truer words have never been spoken. Take away the party affiliation, and these pundits and their lemmings would be indistinguishable. These people are entertainers, not worth your undying loyalty.
I don’t even watch Hannity, or have cable. I disconnected that years ago because most modern TV is trite crap. Yet, as a 20+ year USAA member I’m moving my accounts because instead of making advertising decisions based upon where target audience markets are rich (Hannity audiences are a target rich USAA environment) USAA and other advertisers are making decisions based upon complaint letters received from the social justice warriors of Media Matters, etc. They forgot they are in business to serve customers, not push social agendas. I have enough social agenda pushers to navigate through on a daily basis. I don’t need another who I depend on for insurance. I don’t care that they advertise on Maddow or any of the other left wing shows. They could give them weekly prizes for all I care. If they see a viable target audience in those shows then the free market and good business sense dictates they advertise with those shows. That’s the American way. However, if USAA leadership fold in response to the slightest ill wind from leftists crybabies who write them letters, then they have blown their credibility as people who can make good business decisions. Of note, I checked out Progressive about a year ago just to see what the rates were and the rates were lower, but I stayed with USAA out of trust and loyalty to them. However, they have blown their trust meter and seem to be just another corporation focused on pushing social agendas instead of providing a good business product.
I should have been more literal. Please list THREE current Democrats you consider to be “good politicians.” No. Scratch that. Just list TWO “good Democratic politicians.”
June 5, 2017 at 3:45 pm
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You used up your ONE request for this month. Sorry.
June 5, 2017 at 4:40 pm
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Posted like a true troll with no sincere intent for actual discussion nor any intent to back up their comments.
June 1, 2017 at 1:25 pm
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List some republicans that you perceive are good ones.
That’s a loaded question Confused, and what you’re aiming to do here is show his bias. There are traits that democrats have and republicans have, which would make it very possible for someone to not like any of one or the other. People have bias, and on that note, because of these differences between party beliefs, it is perfectly possible that someone can have this and it isn’t even a bias, which is what I believe you’re tying to say he has. I say possible, because I actually think sometimes democrats present policies that actually are not typical democrat plans and do go toward the republican side of the aisle. You have no need to point out someone has bias. You have bias. We all have bias. It isn’t relevant to anything.
This is basically your method of saying “you would never consider a democrat good!”.
Which doesn’t matter. It would be better to say “Here is a policy from democrats, what do you think of it?” and work from there. Or leave out saying it is from a democrat and ask what he thinks of a policy, and when he likes one, reveal it is a democrat policy.
I already replied once IJ! Nothing in my post was an insult or an attack or a curse word. Why would you delete my reply and not the post that preceeded it?
Let’s try this again
Bob. Yogi was the one who said “Can’t discern the good Dems and Republicans from the bad ones?” This clearly implies he feels there are good Dem’s out there. That’s why I asked him to name two. It’s not a “gotcha” question or a way for me to claim he’s biased. He implied there were good Dems and I asked him to whom he was referring. There’s nothing wrong with that.
June 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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I have doubts you didn’t mean to imply anything, but I will accept your comment on the matter at least of trying to make things right whether you had implications or not. Take this as a compliment, in my own way it’s saying I’m impressed with your reply.
As for your post being deleted I certainly sympathize with you and I’m sorry it occurred. It has happened a lot lately.
June 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm
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Oh, wow, some of mine are gone too. I don’t know if you saw it, but I basically went over how news covered Trump and Russia in reply to Doug Fisher below. His post is still there, mine is not.
This is over the top deleting.
June 1, 2017 at 4:41 pm
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Thank you for taking me at my word that I wasn’t implying anything. Your post has been taken as a compliment.
As for the censorship of posts here – I agree it’s gotten quite a bit out of hand. Of course I usually don’t see the “offending” posts before they’re removed, so I can’t say for sure.
It’s just frustrating when a negative and insulting post is kept on the site yet a non-insulting rebuttal reply is taken down. And please do not take that as me trying to implying it is your posts which are negative and insulting, it was just a general comment on the content of some posts I’ve seen kept up when my reply was removed.
June 1, 2017 at 4:48 pm
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Nah, I’ll take it as a compliment that you don’t want to step on my toes. At least that means you have some degree of care toward me.
I’ve said before I can go over the top. When I do, I generally know I have to some degree. I don’t mind those posts deleted.
People here need to get better with calling each other out, instead of getting others to deal with it. As much as you have frustrated me occasionally mid argument, I feel I should say here that you’re better than most here. You’ve said what you should to me when things have been out of control, and you’ve said more or less what you should when they haven’t been in terms of topic of debate. I just don’t always agree.
June 2, 2017 at 1:42 pm
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John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Patrick Moynihan, Paul Tsonga. This is off the top of my head, there are much more.
FDR was the first of many Progressive Socialists who ascended to the White House. Only WW2 saved him from total disaster in the economy since the depression kept lingering with government work programs and no real stimulus for business to pull us out of the depressing depression.
May 30, 2017 at 5:01 pm
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The bad Republicans are the ones who want our legal system to place the Bible (or their interpretation of it) above our constitution. Who try to pass issues of morality into law. Who say (something to the effect of) “if a woman is really raped her body wouldn’t let her get pregnant.” ie. The ultra-conservatives.
The bad Democrats are the ones who want to balance social scales by passing laws that essentially put their finger on the scale. Who want free healthcare and amnesty for illegals, even when they commit crimes. Who pander to lobbyists for women and minorities so much so that it gives them superior status under the law to make up for past injustices. ie. the ultra-liberals.
I want a moral society, but I don’t think that’s governments role…don’t know why I have to explain that to people who favor small government. I want equal pay for women, but think we can achieve that without passing a law that gives my female counterpart an automatic raise whenever I ask for one.
My point could not be made any clearer – as of now, my post has 31 likes and 8 dislikes, while Gail’s post above calling Hannity “one of the few people that tell the truth” is spit at 26/26.
I don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, republican or democrat, if you are tired of political fanaticism in general, give me a like!
A well-played NON-committal opinion, played right on the center line of politics, to draw out all disgusted with ONE side or the other, and garner many thumbs up votes.
Next time, please post an actual OPINION, mr opinion.
We SHOULD be disgusted with fanaticism, regardless of what side of the line it falls on. That’s a commitment to a collaborative exchange of ideas; sorry if you can’t comprehend that opinion.
Apparently, your line of reasoning implies that we should each pick a side and adamantly oppose the “other”. This isn’t a football game.
Hey Rich, when the left goes all out to try to get Hannity fired for his Conservative views, that is atrocious and violates the 1st Amendment right of free speech. Hannity has not advocated that any leftist commenter be fired for spewing their hate, even Bill Maher, who is one of the worst and a terrible racist as well.
Sorry, not sure if you are disagreeing but as noted:
“…regardless of what side of the line it falls on.”
when the left goes all out to try to get Hannity fired for his Conservative views, that is atrocious and violates the 1st Amendment right of free speech. -Agreed
Hannity has not advocated that any leftist commenter be fired for spewing their hate, – how about the Media Equality Project promotion?
Bill Maher, who is one of the worst and a terrible racist as well. -Agreed on thats what he is. Also sort drives home the point that these are ALL entertainers, not really the ones you want to pin your political allegiance to.
Apparently its more important to pledge allegiance to a party and its idols (eg Hannity, Maddow) than to the country.
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You want an opinion…you and everyone who thinks like you are among the major causes of political strife in this country. A MODERATE OPINION IS STILL AN OPINION NUT JOB. Hannity is a blood sucking con-artist manipulating you for ratings. If I had my way he and all the “other-side-hating”, venom spewing political shock-jocks (on both sides) would be permanently banned from reporting and all the networks that host them forced to remove all references to the word “news” from their names, or anywhere on their programming. Then they can all add the RNC and DNC networks on TV to spew whatever propaganda they want so your narrow minded, black-and-white, politically fanatic behind can still have your free speech rights, just in a way that impressionable, naive people don’t mistake you for someone who actually knows something. Committal enough for you?
You have posted 10 comments(not including this last one). Of those, 7 have addressed your oppositions views in a disparaging manner, ranging from knee jerk name calling (“MS-LSD”) to outright stereotyping (“most libs depend on handouts). I agree, you don’t call for fanaticism, you live it.
I do commend you on some great comments though ( “…read MANY sources of news…”). Respect your opinion, just hoped to see it used constructively.
“do commend you on some great comments though ( “…read MANY sources of news…”). Respect your opinion, just hoped to see it used constructively.”
Commendations required here. Bravo. An ability to criticize and praise in the same comment. I am not being sarcastic. There are many people who have some issues debating, if we tossed their opinions out the window due to how they talked, it would be both immoral to the person (removing their opinion from society is a bit cruel) and a detriment to debate in general (removing their facts from society would deny society their potentially valuable view point).
Good on you. I should buy you a beer.
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Example: MS-LSD is a well deserved insult to a clearly liberally biased media with an agenda. It is absolutely disgusting that they hold themselves out as a “news” outlet.
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That’s a lot of finger pointing and generalizing on your part mr op. Sounds like ‘you’ need to find a new planet because ‘you’ sure aren’t going to find any middle ground around here….not for a while.
Doesn’t surprise me. This company is not as good as they think they are. A real boneheaded move as Hannity is a big supporter of the military. They’re going to lose a lot of business. Most military members are conservative in their thinking. They can’t dwell in the lala land of liberals. As for Seth Rich murder details came out, I knew it was political. I think Hannity got it right. Goes to show you Repert’s son’s aren’t as smart as he is.
The Seth Rich murder may be political and Hannity may be found to be right. But until then he needs to stick to the news unless he has facts available to him that no one else has.
Agree with SWFL; facts need to be brought forth before news media puts out conclusions. If they investigate properly, they’ll find the smoking gun(s). Wait. And learn.
Meanwhile, USAA needs to temper its reaction to Hannity, which came BEFORE they pulled ads on MS-LSD. Knee jerk reaction by a company normally well run.
Food for thought; would a Republican murder Seth Rich? If so, what is the motive? Why take that risk if discovery would surely mean a Hillary win?
There are MANY unanswered questions. Liberal media outlets are more interested in a Russian conspiracy than solving an obviously politically driven murder.
[Columbo voice] One more thing; why didn’t Comey investigate the Seth Rich murder? That one’s eatin’ at me like a hungry polar bear. [/Columbo voice]
Why didn’t Comey investigate the Rich murder? Murder is a state crime, not a federal (FBI) crime, unless someone is killing the president. Even Columbo knows that!
I applaud USAA’s decision and their decision to level the playing field. If someone wants to move their insurance over a slip on a banana peel, then that’s the boneheaded move, IMHO.
“The decision provoked an angry response. A Memorial Day posting on the company’s Facebook page had nearly 500 comments Friday afternoon, many from people protesting the Hannity decision and vowing to move accounts from USAA.”
Man, sounds like a bunch of conservative snowflakes. I hear the same sentiment being echoed above. It is all the more apparent Hannity is one of the few “safe zones” left for the conservative type. The guy is a total hack, has his entire show prep done for him. He wouldn’t even debate our local radio host, said he would and chickened out after he realized he’d get his arse handed to him. I’m still waiting for him to be water-boarded. He said he’d volunteer to do it because he didn’t think it was a real form of torture. Well Sean, you lying sack, we’re ready when you are.
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They came to their sense—->USAA Says It Will Reinstate Ads On ‘Hannity’ Now all ya’ll that were happy about the liberal boycot can start your own protest. Guess USAA found out most libs depend on handouts.
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What USAA may have found out is that most libs don’t serve their country in the military and that USAA’s customer base is decidedly conservative. Hard to believe that anyone earning a paycheck at USAA needed reminding of that.
“USAA has lost its way” – the new company motto. Whether its is Maddow or Hannity, cancelling a contract sends a message of non-approval. Not renewing a contract is a different animal. These actions are undeniably political.
That a company could sponsor numerous media outlets on the political left and only one on the right and cancelling it not be interpreted as being substantially more damaging to the media of the political right is nonsense. Heads should roll. A new leader who is aware of the implications of raw political messaging and avoiding it may moderate the collateral damage.
A company built upon the backs of non-political military service by men and women then uses their money to play in the political arena is self-indicting. USAA now has a black eye as do those who unwittingly support it. Shame on USAA.
Actions have consequences. They made a decision that is contrary to the way would would want a company They do business with to behave. I’ve been a USAA customer since I was in OCS in Quantico over 35 years ago. I wont continue that relationship. It was a political decision driven by an attempt to appease. That kind of spineless corporate behavior is infuriating.
500 Facebook comments is nothing. The USAA member message board (you have to have an account to sign on) has close to 300 pages of comments in protest, many members have already dumped USAA. USAA is ignoring all member questions and inquires while hiding their heads in the sand. USAA leadership has gone AWOL.
I have been a USAA client for 45 years. Superb organization, unparalleled products. The right decision is to avoid advertising with all political broadcasters.
PS: Hannity is a hack interested only in self-aggrandizement.
They came to their sense—->USAA Says It Will Reinstate Ads On ‘Hannity’ Now all ya’ll that were happy about the liberal boycot can start your own protest. Guess USAA found out most libs depend on handouts.
I have been with USAA since the late 1980’s. I am looking for different providers for my insurance, banking, and investing needs. Other companies have low rates and good quality customer service, just as USAA does. They do not have a monopoly on good business plans.
They came to their senses.. Massive boycott and Policy cancellations persuaded USAA to come back to ‘Hannity’ Glad to see they grew a pair and not cave to the liberals bull***t.
Haley, I was under the impression that Fox management/employees were encouraging Hannity to drop this until further details were available. This wasn’t just the liberal media berating him.
In no way does Sean Hannity “tell the truth”, at least not consistently. Ads were placed on MSNBC by mistake- things happen. Fox certainly is no beacon of truth and fairness in politics.
Anyone who watches Fox News to be informed outside of Shep Smith and Chris Wallace is almost certainly being misled by theatrics and infotainment garbage.
The pundits are not journalists, as Sean Hannity has said many times himself, and they are not bound by journalistic integrity. This is reflected by every measurable indicator demonstrating that they are not honest, nor “fair and balanced” in their reporting.
Look at every major news story regarding the hacking of the election. When EVERY, and I mean EVERY legitimate news site out there (legitimate meaning those who have won several Pulitzer Prizes, Edward R Murrow Award, etc.) are reporting they have verifiable sources who tie key members of Trump’s Election Team and Inner Circle having to Russian money/spies/oligarchs/Putin/etc., and at the same time, Fox News runs a story about a squirrel who can waterski, you can see whose viewership is being misled and left in the dark.
On the other hand, when only one news service (Fox News) is running defamatory and disputed stories about a murder victim being the one and only source for the Wikileaks DNC dump and literally ZERO other credible publications (once again, those who win awards for journalistic integrity and fair and accurate reporting) can corroborate with their own sources, you can presume that what Fox News is reporting is bull crap.
USAA was right to pull support from Hannity’s program. Not just because of this conspiracy theory stuff, but because of 20+ years of hatemongering and “othering” anyone different from himself. I was very impressed with them pulling their support from Hannity. I am no longer impressed now that they have weaseled their way back.
Supporting the military doesn’t negate many of the horrible opinions and policies Hannity pushes into the mainstream, including several anti-science positions.
Remember: “Turn the other cheek,” “love thy enemies,” “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God” and “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Matthew 25:41-44, etc.
If your party and candidate doesn’t reflect those teachings, and you still proclaim to follow He who taught them, there is a serious disconnect in your life.
I am a pro-life conservative, and the Republican Party, nor its shills in the media do not represent my faith or my conscience. They do not earn my viewership, much less my votes. Not when they hurt the people who trust them and are guided by them. One only needs to look at the AHCA and Trump’s Tax plan to see who Republicans think the “worthy” are. It ain’t the sinners and publicans, I will tell you that!
Mr. Fisher, you have made some very good points and I agree with you on the conclusion that the republican party platform is not “faith based” as they would like to think. There is nothing Christian in the ACHA or the tax plan because they are concerned only with money, specifically the tax money that they have to pay for programs that they think only help the “undeserving”; note that none of their platform is aimed at helping people. It sure does aim at preventing people from getting any help. by god, what about the freedoms they espouse? freedom to live in poverty, freedom from “hand outs”, freedom to be uninsured, freedom to die in bankruptcy. Even the 2009 recession was aimed at helping corporations but not people. And corporations are the tools of the wealthy anyway, aren’t they? Whatever happened to noblese oblige? It went by the wayside and was replaced by GREED is good! Why giving folks a hand is tantamount to making them slaves and we all know that the “historic” republican party was against slavery (NOT). If the republican party is aligned with Christians, they are ABC as are most of the televangelist charlatans I see on TV: Anything But Christian.
Glad you put Hannity back on.
Now pull adds from MSNBC and CNN.
Good to see Other insurance companies etc. advertising to get your business.
Hope it works.
IJ. Referring to the Seth Rich story as “discredited story about a murdered Democratic National Committee staffer” pretty much sums up your bias on this matter.
mr. opinion, that’s one of the most accurate, well-stated, unbiased comments I’ve read. you are totally ‘on-point’ and I agree with you quite strongly. we’ve become a country of civil discourse and the level of volatility seems to be ever increasing. …civil war?? not that unlikely in IMO. everyone seems to have a cause and the self-entitled cry babies are more and more prevalent. it’s disgusting the lack of ‘community’ in our society any more. people no longer think outside their 3′ of personal space.
As an insurance agent, my opinion is insurance company company advertising doesn’t belong on politically inspired and horribly polarizing shows no matter the political stripe. Those type TV shows only create great divides and insurance protection is not Republican or Democrat. Insurance is for everyone who needs it, regardless of political uglies. Most business executives should know better than to turn off customers and potential ones by promoting tribal politics.
Insurance ads have been going down hill for some time. Has anyone seen the GEICO ad with the 3 Millenials in a car all on their cells and the driver dude running out of gas in the middle of the desert because he was too stupid to stop for gas 50 miles back so he just pulls up his GEICO app for road side assistance.
Oh, look at all the boohooing traitor conservascum snowflakes, whining about things they know zero about–which is, well, anything related to reality.
Hey, you anti-American morons: Refusing to advertise on the treasonous, lying shows on Fox does not fall under the First Amendment. The First Amendment only applies if it is the GOVERNMENT that is censoring the press, not if private entities choose not to associate with treasonous filth like you and your stupid traitor network.
Learn some basic civics, you ignorant traitorous cretins, rather than wallowing in your compulsive stupidity. It might actually make you real Americans, for once in your worthless lives.
I haven’t followed the details of the DNC staffer who was murdered. That is irrelevant to the story about USAA and their spokesman.
But, when a company spokesman (Roger Wildermuth) says the company he represents doesn’t sponsor opinionated programs, yet they sponsor MSNBC, that is the zenith of ignorance, incompetence, and mis-communication by a person whose job is to communicate facts.
For the spokesman to then say the ads on ‘MS-LSD’ were a mistake, that is the zenith of fraud. USAA is a very good company which needs to replace a very bad, Wild-mouthed spokesman.
Rice, USAA is proud of their history of serving the military and retired military. One could not have a better supporter of the military than Sean Hannity. Sounds to me like USAA is trying to be politically correct and fall into the trap of left wing politics. We saw how that worked with James Comey when he went bonkers to protect Hilliary and her minions. Hopefully, all that went on with him will be brought out soon by Sessions. How about some grand juries being summoned and let’s get to it.
Extremely short-sighted of USAA. Right before Memorial Day! I, too am investigating moving my insurance and asset account elsewhere soon unless USAA discovers who its MEMBERS really are.
Discredited? Has there been an arrest in the murder?
Touche’, Haley. Only the liberals have discredited (aka, trying to sweep it away before anyone gets too close) this issue.
Someone high up is vulnerable to the smoking gun left by that murder.
Integrity, wouldn’t the people want to catch the murderer of this young man? Has all the elements of a murder for hire since nothing was taken.
The family is trying to sweep it up too. Right wing conspiracy mongers are pure trash.
Says the person who wants to believe the Steele report, a report that was funded by the opponents of Trump, and makes the craziest accusations I have ever seen of a report.
Says the person who believes there are multiple Russian spies in the government. Says the person who believes the Russians love conservatives, and want to infiltrate France conservatives as well as America’s conservatives.
While there are whack jobs on all sides, everything I just listed is not just you, it’s your party.
However, the conspiracy theorists regarding this murder, are not the people in policy making decisions.
Das Zvidaniya!
You pulling your advertisement from Hannity is awful. Hannity is one of the few people on TV that tell the truth. Looking at your commercials, I thought your company was honest. Hannity was just trying to find out the truth about DNC Staffer that was not murdered for his money. I am going to boycott your company.
At this point I can’t blame them for wanting no part of “political opinion” based shows. The response alone is enough evidence. Our nation has become so politically polarized and pig-headed you alienate half the country no matter what you do. As long as it’s not just Hannity, they are in-fact pulling ads on both sides, they are good. Those of you that attack USAA for making this decision don’t realize you are the reason for it. “Drink the conservative kool-aid or get out of my country.” You all make me sick. And before you go nuts on me, the liberals who say the same about you are exactly as bad. No more, no less. You’re all political fanatics. It’s a wonder you haven’t started a second civil war already. Don’t believe me? Tell me, who was the last liberal republican or conservative democrat that actually has a shot at the white house? It’s nothing but selfish bible-thumpers vs. entitled cry-babies. Hannity, is a propagandist, so is Maddow. Their JOB is to incite you, piss you off at the other side, because it gets ratings! It’s all toxic bs and I’m shocked so many people fall for it. Good for the USAA getting away from it.
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Truer words have never been spoken. Take away the party affiliation, and these pundits and their lemmings would be indistinguishable. These people are entertainers, not worth your undying loyalty.
I don’t even watch Hannity, or have cable. I disconnected that years ago because most modern TV is trite crap. Yet, as a 20+ year USAA member I’m moving my accounts because instead of making advertising decisions based upon where target audience markets are rich (Hannity audiences are a target rich USAA environment) USAA and other advertisers are making decisions based upon complaint letters received from the social justice warriors of Media Matters, etc. They forgot they are in business to serve customers, not push social agendas. I have enough social agenda pushers to navigate through on a daily basis. I don’t need another who I depend on for insurance. I don’t care that they advertise on Maddow or any of the other left wing shows. They could give them weekly prizes for all I care. If they see a viable target audience in those shows then the free market and good business sense dictates they advertise with those shows. That’s the American way. However, if USAA leadership fold in response to the slightest ill wind from leftists crybabies who write them letters, then they have blown their credibility as people who can make good business decisions. Of note, I checked out Progressive about a year ago just to see what the rates were and the rates were lower, but I stayed with USAA out of trust and loyalty to them. However, they have blown their trust meter and seem to be just another corporation focused on pushing social agendas instead of providing a good business product.
Can’t discern the good Dems and Republicans from the bad ones?
Avoid biased left or right sites and channels and read MANY sources of news without an agenda. I do. Thank me later for this simple advice.
Please list THREE Democrats you consider “good” ones. No. Scratch that. Just list TWO “good” Democrats in your eyes. I double-dog dare you.
Denis Kucinich. Man speaks the truth.
Clintons, Gore.
All 3 are GOOD for laughs.
I should have been more literal. Please list THREE current Democrats you consider to be “good politicians.” No. Scratch that. Just list TWO “good Democratic politicians.”
You used up your ONE request for this month. Sorry.
Posted like a true troll with no sincere intent for actual discussion nor any intent to back up their comments.
List some republicans that you perceive are good ones.
That’s a loaded question Confused, and what you’re aiming to do here is show his bias. There are traits that democrats have and republicans have, which would make it very possible for someone to not like any of one or the other. People have bias, and on that note, because of these differences between party beliefs, it is perfectly possible that someone can have this and it isn’t even a bias, which is what I believe you’re tying to say he has. I say possible, because I actually think sometimes democrats present policies that actually are not typical democrat plans and do go toward the republican side of the aisle. You have no need to point out someone has bias. You have bias. We all have bias. It isn’t relevant to anything.
This is basically your method of saying “you would never consider a democrat good!”.
Which doesn’t matter. It would be better to say “Here is a policy from democrats, what do you think of it?” and work from there. Or leave out saying it is from a democrat and ask what he thinks of a policy, and when he likes one, reveal it is a democrat policy.
I already replied once IJ! Nothing in my post was an insult or an attack or a curse word. Why would you delete my reply and not the post that preceeded it?
Let’s try this again
Bob. Yogi was the one who said “Can’t discern the good Dems and Republicans from the bad ones?” This clearly implies he feels there are good Dem’s out there. That’s why I asked him to name two. It’s not a “gotcha” question or a way for me to claim he’s biased. He implied there were good Dems and I asked him to whom he was referring. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I have doubts you didn’t mean to imply anything, but I will accept your comment on the matter at least of trying to make things right whether you had implications or not. Take this as a compliment, in my own way it’s saying I’m impressed with your reply.
As for your post being deleted I certainly sympathize with you and I’m sorry it occurred. It has happened a lot lately.
Oh, wow, some of mine are gone too. I don’t know if you saw it, but I basically went over how news covered Trump and Russia in reply to Doug Fisher below. His post is still there, mine is not.
This is over the top deleting.
Thank you for taking me at my word that I wasn’t implying anything. Your post has been taken as a compliment.
As for the censorship of posts here – I agree it’s gotten quite a bit out of hand. Of course I usually don’t see the “offending” posts before they’re removed, so I can’t say for sure.
It’s just frustrating when a negative and insulting post is kept on the site yet a non-insulting rebuttal reply is taken down. And please do not take that as me trying to implying it is your posts which are negative and insulting, it was just a general comment on the content of some posts I’ve seen kept up when my reply was removed.
Nah, I’ll take it as a compliment that you don’t want to step on my toes. At least that means you have some degree of care toward me.
I’ve said before I can go over the top. When I do, I generally know I have to some degree. I don’t mind those posts deleted.
People here need to get better with calling each other out, instead of getting others to deal with it. As much as you have frustrated me occasionally mid argument, I feel I should say here that you’re better than most here. You’ve said what you should to me when things have been out of control, and you’ve said more or less what you should when they haven’t been in terms of topic of debate. I just don’t always agree.
John F. Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Patrick Moynihan, Paul Tsonga. This is off the top of my head, there are much more.
FDR was the first of many Progressive Socialists who ascended to the White House. Only WW2 saved him from total disaster in the economy since the depression kept lingering with government work programs and no real stimulus for business to pull us out of the depressing depression.
The bad Republicans are the ones who want our legal system to place the Bible (or their interpretation of it) above our constitution. Who try to pass issues of morality into law. Who say (something to the effect of) “if a woman is really raped her body wouldn’t let her get pregnant.” ie. The ultra-conservatives.
The bad Democrats are the ones who want to balance social scales by passing laws that essentially put their finger on the scale. Who want free healthcare and amnesty for illegals, even when they commit crimes. Who pander to lobbyists for women and minorities so much so that it gives them superior status under the law to make up for past injustices. ie. the ultra-liberals.
I want a moral society, but I don’t think that’s governments role…don’t know why I have to explain that to people who favor small government. I want equal pay for women, but think we can achieve that without passing a law that gives my female counterpart an automatic raise whenever I ask for one.
Avoid biased sites, says the Birther who believes the Seth Rich conspiracy theory and thinks climate change is a conspiracy by climate scientists.
My point could not be made any clearer – as of now, my post has 31 likes and 8 dislikes, while Gail’s post above calling Hannity “one of the few people that tell the truth” is spit at 26/26.
I don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, republican or democrat, if you are tired of political fanaticism in general, give me a like!
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Hear hear! If I voted on this site, I’d give you an upvote, but I don’t, so you’ll just have to settle for this reply instead :)
A well-played NON-committal opinion, played right on the center line of politics, to draw out all disgusted with ONE side or the other, and garner many thumbs up votes.
Next time, please post an actual OPINION, mr opinion.
We SHOULD be disgusted with fanaticism, regardless of what side of the line it falls on. That’s a commitment to a collaborative exchange of ideas; sorry if you can’t comprehend that opinion.
Apparently, your line of reasoning implies that we should each pick a side and adamantly oppose the “other”. This isn’t a football game.
Hey Rich, when the left goes all out to try to get Hannity fired for his Conservative views, that is atrocious and violates the 1st Amendment right of free speech. Hannity has not advocated that any leftist commenter be fired for spewing their hate, even Bill Maher, who is one of the worst and a terrible racist as well.
Sorry, not sure if you are disagreeing but as noted:
“…regardless of what side of the line it falls on.”
when the left goes all out to try to get Hannity fired for his Conservative views, that is atrocious and violates the 1st Amendment right of free speech. -Agreed
Hannity has not advocated that any leftist commenter be fired for spewing their hate, – how about the Media Equality Project promotion?
Bill Maher, who is one of the worst and a terrible racist as well. -Agreed on thats what he is. Also sort drives home the point that these are ALL entertainers, not really the ones you want to pin your political allegiance to.
Apparently its more important to pledge allegiance to a party and its idols (eg Hannity, Maddow) than to the country.
You want an opinion…you and everyone who thinks like you are among the major causes of political strife in this country. A MODERATE OPINION IS STILL AN OPINION NUT JOB. Hannity is a blood sucking con-artist manipulating you for ratings. If I had my way he and all the “other-side-hating”, venom spewing political shock-jocks (on both sides) would be permanently banned from reporting and all the networks that host them forced to remove all references to the word “news” from their names, or anywhere on their programming. Then they can all add the RNC and DNC networks on TV to spew whatever propaganda they want so your narrow minded, black-and-white, politically fanatic behind can still have your free speech rights, just in a way that impressionable, naive people don’t mistake you for someone who actually knows something. Committal enough for you?
Nowhere in my post did I call for ‘fanatacism’.
Straw Man argument.
You have posted 10 comments(not including this last one). Of those, 7 have addressed your oppositions views in a disparaging manner, ranging from knee jerk name calling (“MS-LSD”) to outright stereotyping (“most libs depend on handouts). I agree, you don’t call for fanaticism, you live it.
I do commend you on some great comments though ( “…read MANY sources of news…”). Respect your opinion, just hoped to see it used constructively.
“do commend you on some great comments though ( “…read MANY sources of news…”). Respect your opinion, just hoped to see it used constructively.”
Commendations required here. Bravo. An ability to criticize and praise in the same comment. I am not being sarcastic. There are many people who have some issues debating, if we tossed their opinions out the window due to how they talked, it would be both immoral to the person (removing their opinion from society is a bit cruel) and a detriment to debate in general (removing their facts from society would deny society their potentially valuable view point).
Good on you. I should buy you a beer.
Example: MS-LSD is a well deserved insult to a clearly liberally biased media with an agenda. It is absolutely disgusting that they hold themselves out as a “news” outlet.
That’s a lot of finger pointing and generalizing on your part mr op. Sounds like ‘you’ need to find a new planet because ‘you’ sure aren’t going to find any middle ground around here….not for a while.
Doesn’t surprise me. This company is not as good as they think they are. A real boneheaded move as Hannity is a big supporter of the military. They’re going to lose a lot of business. Most military members are conservative in their thinking. They can’t dwell in the lala land of liberals. As for Seth Rich murder details came out, I knew it was political. I think Hannity got it right. Goes to show you Repert’s son’s aren’t as smart as he is.
The Seth Rich murder may be political and Hannity may be found to be right. But until then he needs to stick to the news unless he has facts available to him that no one else has.
Agree with SWFL; facts need to be brought forth before news media puts out conclusions. If they investigate properly, they’ll find the smoking gun(s). Wait. And learn.
Meanwhile, USAA needs to temper its reaction to Hannity, which came BEFORE they pulled ads on MS-LSD. Knee jerk reaction by a company normally well run.
Food for thought; would a Republican murder Seth Rich? If so, what is the motive? Why take that risk if discovery would surely mean a Hillary win?
There are MANY unanswered questions. Liberal media outlets are more interested in a Russian conspiracy than solving an obviously politically driven murder.
[Columbo voice] One more thing; why didn’t Comey investigate the Seth Rich murder? That one’s eatin’ at me like a hungry polar bear. [/Columbo voice]
Why didn’t Comey investigate the Rich murder? Murder is a state crime, not a federal (FBI) crime, unless someone is killing the president. Even Columbo knows that!
What state did Rich live in? where was his body found?
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“The decision provoked an angry response. A Memorial Day posting on the company’s Facebook page had nearly 500 comments Friday afternoon, many from people protesting the Hannity decision and vowing to move accounts from USAA.”
Man, sounds like a bunch of conservative snowflakes. I hear the same sentiment being echoed above. It is all the more apparent Hannity is one of the few “safe zones” left for the conservative type. The guy is a total hack, has his entire show prep done for him. He wouldn’t even debate our local radio host, said he would and chickened out after he realized he’d get his arse handed to him. I’m still waiting for him to be water-boarded. He said he’d volunteer to do it because he didn’t think it was a real form of torture. Well Sean, you lying sack, we’re ready when you are.
Apparently, PROTESTS by Libitterals are OK in the minds of Libitterals.
But PROTESTS by Conservatives are NOT OK in the same minds of Libitterals.
Hypocrites.
Pssst; the Hannity Program has been restored on USAA’s list of places they advertise.
Unlike Libitteral protests of TrumPresident, this PROTEST worked because it had substance, justification, and hyuuuuuge support.
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They came to their sense—->USAA Says It Will Reinstate Ads On ‘Hannity’ Now all ya’ll that were happy about the liberal boycot can start your own protest. Guess USAA found out most libs depend on handouts.
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What USAA may have found out is that most libs don’t serve their country in the military and that USAA’s customer base is decidedly conservative. Hard to believe that anyone earning a paycheck at USAA needed reminding of that.
Funny, they do serve, but then treasonous filth like you attack them for it.
See: John Kerry, whose service is better than anything traitor filth like you ever managed.
“USAA has lost its way” – the new company motto. Whether its is Maddow or Hannity, cancelling a contract sends a message of non-approval. Not renewing a contract is a different animal. These actions are undeniably political.
That a company could sponsor numerous media outlets on the political left and only one on the right and cancelling it not be interpreted as being substantially more damaging to the media of the political right is nonsense. Heads should roll. A new leader who is aware of the implications of raw political messaging and avoiding it may moderate the collateral damage.
A company built upon the backs of non-political military service by men and women then uses their money to play in the political arena is self-indicting. USAA now has a black eye as do those who unwittingly support it. Shame on USAA.
Actions have consequences. They made a decision that is contrary to the way would would want a company They do business with to behave. I’ve been a USAA customer since I was in OCS in Quantico over 35 years ago. I wont continue that relationship. It was a political decision driven by an attempt to appease. That kind of spineless corporate behavior is infuriating.
500 Facebook comments is nothing. The USAA member message board (you have to have an account to sign on) has close to 300 pages of comments in protest, many members have already dumped USAA. USAA is ignoring all member questions and inquires while hiding their heads in the sand. USAA leadership has gone AWOL.
I have been a USAA client for 45 years. Superb organization, unparalleled products. The right decision is to avoid advertising with all political broadcasters.
PS: Hannity is a hack interested only in self-aggrandizement.
They came to their sense—->USAA Says It Will Reinstate Ads On ‘Hannity’ Now all ya’ll that were happy about the liberal boycot can start your own protest. Guess USAA found out most libs depend on handouts.
I have been with USAA since the late 1980’s. I am looking for different providers for my insurance, banking, and investing needs. Other companies have low rates and good quality customer service, just as USAA does. They do not have a monopoly on good business plans.
They came to their senses.. Massive boycott and Policy cancellations persuaded USAA to come back to ‘Hannity’ Glad to see they grew a pair and not cave to the liberals bull***t.
“They did not like the former POTUS at all and that is not racist”
lol…
A truly poetic statement, Agent. Also, I appreciate you speaking for all military and police. You got the facts!!
He did not write “ALL police and military”?
Post a poll that shows percentages of police and mil that support Dems. Ready, steady, … GO!
I appreciate you making idiotic arguments about trivial issues and twisting people’s words in doing so.
Haley, I was under the impression that Fox management/employees were encouraging Hannity to drop this until further details were available. This wasn’t just the liberal media berating him.
I’d just as soon dump USAA after many many years!
In no way does Sean Hannity “tell the truth”, at least not consistently. Ads were placed on MSNBC by mistake- things happen. Fox certainly is no beacon of truth and fairness in politics.
improper screen name, for what you wrote.
Anyone who watches Fox News to be informed outside of Shep Smith and Chris Wallace is almost certainly being misled by theatrics and infotainment garbage.
The pundits are not journalists, as Sean Hannity has said many times himself, and they are not bound by journalistic integrity. This is reflected by every measurable indicator demonstrating that they are not honest, nor “fair and balanced” in their reporting.
Look at every major news story regarding the hacking of the election. When EVERY, and I mean EVERY legitimate news site out there (legitimate meaning those who have won several Pulitzer Prizes, Edward R Murrow Award, etc.) are reporting they have verifiable sources who tie key members of Trump’s Election Team and Inner Circle having to Russian money/spies/oligarchs/Putin/etc., and at the same time, Fox News runs a story about a squirrel who can waterski, you can see whose viewership is being misled and left in the dark.
On the other hand, when only one news service (Fox News) is running defamatory and disputed stories about a murder victim being the one and only source for the Wikileaks DNC dump and literally ZERO other credible publications (once again, those who win awards for journalistic integrity and fair and accurate reporting) can corroborate with their own sources, you can presume that what Fox News is reporting is bull crap.
USAA was right to pull support from Hannity’s program. Not just because of this conspiracy theory stuff, but because of 20+ years of hatemongering and “othering” anyone different from himself. I was very impressed with them pulling their support from Hannity. I am no longer impressed now that they have weaseled their way back.
Supporting the military doesn’t negate many of the horrible opinions and policies Hannity pushes into the mainstream, including several anti-science positions.
Remember: “Turn the other cheek,” “love thy enemies,” “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God” and “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Matthew 25:41-44, etc.
If your party and candidate doesn’t reflect those teachings, and you still proclaim to follow He who taught them, there is a serious disconnect in your life.
I am a pro-life conservative, and the Republican Party, nor its shills in the media do not represent my faith or my conscience. They do not earn my viewership, much less my votes. Not when they hurt the people who trust them and are guided by them. One only needs to look at the AHCA and Trump’s Tax plan to see who Republicans think the “worthy” are. It ain’t the sinners and publicans, I will tell you that!
Mr. Fisher, you have made some very good points and I agree with you on the conclusion that the republican party platform is not “faith based” as they would like to think. There is nothing Christian in the ACHA or the tax plan because they are concerned only with money, specifically the tax money that they have to pay for programs that they think only help the “undeserving”; note that none of their platform is aimed at helping people. It sure does aim at preventing people from getting any help. by god, what about the freedoms they espouse? freedom to live in poverty, freedom from “hand outs”, freedom to be uninsured, freedom to die in bankruptcy. Even the 2009 recession was aimed at helping corporations but not people. And corporations are the tools of the wealthy anyway, aren’t they? Whatever happened to noblese oblige? It went by the wayside and was replaced by GREED is good! Why giving folks a hand is tantamount to making them slaves and we all know that the “historic” republican party was against slavery (NOT). If the republican party is aligned with Christians, they are ABC as are most of the televangelist charlatans I see on TV: Anything But Christian.
Glad you put Hannity back on.
Now pull adds from MSNBC and CNN.
Good to see Other insurance companies etc. advertising to get your business.
Hope it works.
IJ. Referring to the Seth Rich story as “discredited story about a murdered Democratic National Committee staffer” pretty much sums up your bias on this matter.
mr. opinion, that’s one of the most accurate, well-stated, unbiased comments I’ve read. you are totally ‘on-point’ and I agree with you quite strongly. we’ve become a country of civil discourse and the level of volatility seems to be ever increasing. …civil war?? not that unlikely in IMO. everyone seems to have a cause and the self-entitled cry babies are more and more prevalent. it’s disgusting the lack of ‘community’ in our society any more. people no longer think outside their 3′ of personal space.
As an insurance agent, my opinion is insurance company company advertising doesn’t belong on politically inspired and horribly polarizing shows no matter the political stripe. Those type TV shows only create great divides and insurance protection is not Republican or Democrat. Insurance is for everyone who needs it, regardless of political uglies. Most business executives should know better than to turn off customers and potential ones by promoting tribal politics.
Insurance ads have been going down hill for some time. Has anyone seen the GEICO ad with the 3 Millenials in a car all on their cells and the driver dude running out of gas in the middle of the desert because he was too stupid to stop for gas 50 miles back so he just pulls up his GEICO app for road side assistance.
Oh, look at all the boohooing traitor conservascum snowflakes, whining about things they know zero about–which is, well, anything related to reality.
Hey, you anti-American morons: Refusing to advertise on the treasonous, lying shows on Fox does not fall under the First Amendment. The First Amendment only applies if it is the GOVERNMENT that is censoring the press, not if private entities choose not to associate with treasonous filth like you and your stupid traitor network.
Learn some basic civics, you ignorant traitorous cretins, rather than wallowing in your compulsive stupidity. It might actually make you real Americans, for once in your worthless lives.