This will be the most interesting time in this entire 115th Congress, you can put that in the books. They have been hilariously ineffectual since taking office, but they have a chance to shape a huge part of the federal budget for decades to come if they craft a bill worthy of support by both parties.
It was smart to kill the McConnell Bill, since that was a terrible, last-ditch effort to try and ram something through the door at the last minute. They needed to start fresh and figure out a way that, if they actually repeal the ACA, they replace it with something with that is better or the same in every regard.
If they do so, the Republicans come out with possibly the only major victory they can hang their hat on going into the midterms. Otherwise, the stain of Trump will be all over those that grovelled their way to his favor. Trump’s historically low approval rating for any president at this stage in his term will be a knock against any of the hardline rightwingers who have signed off on his every whim.
Repeal will come soon. At that point, I will still not be tired of winning.
Replacements will largely be drawn out over a few years, with the HC and HI industries acting on their own, or with legislative reforms to enable them to better serve customers / clients and offer more choices to create free and efficient markets for their services and products. At that point, I may be just a little tired of winning, but I’ll get over it… because there will still be more winning ahead.
Is this crib the same sources that told you in February it was coming next week and you had the details but couldn’t reveal them? Odd you are supporting a bill that isn’t written but whined about Obamacare which had almost a year of committee hearings and hundreds of amendments, including Republican ones. Oh wait, you are a True Conservative, and that goes against your beliefs so you don’t believe it, or look it up. Genius.
“Is this crib the same sources that told you in February it was coming next week and you had the details but couldn’t reveal them?”
Details had come, and versions of varying bills have been coming for years. It was pretty clear the democrats would try to block all areas they could, and they said as such, in public.
“Odd you are supporting a bill that isn’t written but whined about Obamacare which had almost a year of committee hearings and hundreds of amendments, including Republican ones.”
No, it’s not odd. Amendments come after bills are debated on the floor. In order to do that, the alternate party has to agree to bring bills to the floor. The democrats refused. They said any debate would be engaged in would be modifying the ACA. As a result, republicans moved to reconciliation. Amendments would still come, but at a later point. They introduced a bill, and then changed several aspects when the democrats complained, to reintroduce it again and again. They do have bills, it is insane to say they don’t.
“Oh wait, you are a True Conservative, and that goes against your beliefs so you don’t believe it, or look it up. Genius.”
Yes. Conservatives lack edumuficiation. This is old. Grow up kid.
Yogi claimed over and over he had inside sources but couldn’t reveal information. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You have no education. You just want to argue and pretend to be smart. You have not provided proof of mental assistance, so I’m still done with you, go away, stop commenting at me and harassing me, nutter.
July 28, 2017 at 10:28 am
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“Repeal will come soon. At that point, I will still not be tired of winning.”
Hahahahaha, oh boy, the predictions just keep getting better.
I have been laughing all morning at Yogi’s greatest hits.
They just keep coming, too. He doesn’t know if he just stopped commenting that a lot would just blow over, but like his Dear Leader Trump, he can’t help but insert his foot in his mouth over and over.
Have no issue with the Cruz proposal to sell lower costs policies that cover less but if we’re going to allow this then we, as a country, need to educate the public and prepare to let people know that some illnesses, treatments, drugs will not be covered based on the options the individual chose. That is the concept of insurance. So for those in the media crying about the horrendous treatment of the Charley Gard baby and bashing the UK healthcare, we may very well have a situation here in the US where parents chose & purchased a low cost policy and a baby with the same condition gets less care in the US than the UK. Can the American public handle this?
What are you basing your speculation about cancer / life impacting illnesses on? Parents are not going to eschew the low cost of such coverage for their children due to the very low frequency of such illnesses in youths. Please cite the frequency stats for infants and youths contracting cancer, for example. I’ll return to see what you’ve learned and can teach others.
The overbearing stench of what Democrats did for the past 8 years is hard to fumigate. They were a bunch of thugs who imposed their will on the American People and since our POTUS was elected do nothing but “Resistance” to new ideas. Resistance is a losing cause and this reform will happen when the now infamous Obamacare totally implodes.
Democrats will never match the obstructive ways of Republicans…not that they will ever need to. Republicans can’t even pass bills when they hold a majority. They are their own worst enemy.
They only succeed when they have no skin in the game and can only yell from the sidelines (or the bench) “We could do better if we just got a chance!” but immediately fumble the ball on their first hand-off, even with open field in front of them and they are allowed holding on every play.
“This will be the most interesting time in this entire 115th Congress, you can put that in the books”
Have you always had this flare for the dramatic?
“They have been hilariously ineffectual since taking office, but they have a chance to shape a huge part of the federal budget for decades to come if they craft a bill worthy of support by both parties.”
Bull. Rather they have had to deal with the hilariously ignorant witch hunts on the left, and cry babies about losing. When the other side is busy trying to invoke treason on Jeffrey Sessions and Michael Flynn, we have a problem. Also, they slowed down the transition of power, by not having hearings in time.
“It was smart to kill the McConnell Bill, since that was a terrible, last-ditch effort to try and ram something through the door at the last minute. They needed to start fresh and figure out a way that, if they actually repeal the ACA, they replace it with something with that is better or the same in every regard.”
Do you like repeating news that much? Do you think for yourself? I doubt it.
“If they do so, the Republicans come out with possibly the only major victory they can hang their hat on going into the midterms. Otherwise, the stain of Trump will be all over those that grovelled their way to his favor.”
No one groveled to his favor. Nearly every day the news says that, but they are making do with their president. And when they don’t, we then blast them just the same. You are falling for political stunts.
“Trump’s historically low approval rating for any president at this stage in his term will be a knock against any of the hardline rightwingers who have signed off on his every whim.”
His low approval rating has to do with fabricated disasters and abhorrent attacks, and I might add a perverse issue with the society at large. This is basically a bunch of moral zealots, no different than Christian ones. It’s a lot of “I don’t like him” while disregarding policy and facts. I’ve never seen anything like this. It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 65% percent of the population roughly is falling for this horse manure.
Also, right wingers have not signed off on his every whim. You say cliché over the top phrases far too often, and you are the problem in society.
It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 35% percent of the population roughly keeps supporting this con man.
Most recent con: his “support” for the LGBT community but refusal to let them fight and die for our country. I would’ve been fine if he said “no taxpayer money will go towards transgender operations for those in the military” just like I don’t think we should pay for that for those in prison, but no, that’s not what he did.
Will the 1500-6000 transgendered folks currently serving be honorably discharged or dishonorably discharged? That’s really important IMO.
Yours is the concise version of a good response. Mine is the hilariously verbose version below. Grab a cup of coffee, some No-Doz caffeine pills and strap in, I may have written a novel to nobody else that will care to read. :)
You make great points. Watch, if something concrete comes out and Trump is impeached these same people will say how great Republicans are for participating even though they have enabled and supported it, and even if they don’t participate.
“Have you always had this flare for the dramatic?”
Tell me, what could be more interesting in the 2-year period than an historic health care battle? Their success or failure will make or break their entire term. Failure here is huge for multiple reasons:
1. Reps hold the majority everywhere. If they are unable to pass legislation it shows their constituents that they can’t get anything done, even when they are in power.
2. Trump said he is a deal-maker. If he can’t lead his party into concessions and give-and-take, it shows his dealmaking abilities were hilarious overstated. In reality, a deal-maker should actually only be necessary when his party did NOT hold the balance of power in congress, but that is just how poor Republicans are at advancing the ball. They promised touchdowns and blowouts victories, and may end up settling for a first down or two.
3. They voted multiple time to repeal Obamacare under Obama’s presidency. They voted symbolically to do it again under Trump, but if they are unable to actually accomplish it, once again, their constituents will see through their lies.
If their constituents lower their enthusiasm, a lot of R seats are toast in this election. So, YES, this is the most important issue and time for the 115th congress. Nothing DRAMATIC about it.
“Bull. Rather they have had to deal with the hilariously ignorant witch hunts on the left, and cry babies about losing. When the other side is busy trying to invoke treason on Jeffrey Sessions and Michael Flynn, we have a problem.”
Please, demonstrate the witch hunts on the left. Every single thing has panned out so far. Sessions had to recuse himself and everyone agrees except the President that he needed to do so. Flynn is a foreign agent and both men lied in their confirmation hearings about relations with Russians. Don Jr. meets with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to discuss Hillary-related dirt. Imagine, meeting with an adversial nation currently under sanctions by THE WORLD, and there is nothing funny about that? Manafort is a foreign agent with so much dirt on him they call him the Dust Bunny on Capitol Hill. The whole
administration is dirty. To think otherwise would be to ignore dozens of confirmed ooccurences where someone tied to the administration has lied, called out “FAKE NEWS!” and then has been proven to be lying and has said, “Oh yeah…uhh, I must have forgotten about that…well, it wasn’t anything serious…oh you have a recording??? well okay, I did it, but everyone else would have, too!!…FAKE NEWS!!!!”
If you can read this and not be absolutely furious about the administration covering their eyes and/or working with these criminals and savages, then you never will see. The House recently voted almost unanimously for increased sanctions against Russia. There is something HUGE going on. I can’t tie it all up for you, but you can yourself by reading this and putting it in perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/
“Also, they slowed down the transition of power, by not having hearings in time.”
They slowed down the transfer of power how? Please document democrat abuse of power that they somehow slowed down the Republican majority from holding hearings and confirming appointments in any meaningful way. From everything I have heard, the biggest obstruction of appointments has been the Trump admin itself. They have chosen to let a TON of federal positions go unfilled, including dozens of absolutely ESSENTIAL positions. Republicans and Democrats have acknowledged as much. His own Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said as much. You disagreeing won’t change that fact.
“Do you like repeating news that much? Do you think for yourself? I doubt it.”
This isn’t a commentary or even has refutation of my points. Refute my points instead of making a snide comment next time. There were obvious kickbacks and enticements in the last McConnell bill to try and ram something through, but it still got shot down. It was a terrible bill and whatever they do end up passing (I should say IF at this point), will end up better in every way, I am sure.
“No one groveled to his favor. Nearly every day the news says that, but they are making do with their president. And when they don’t, we then blast them just the same. You are falling for political stunts.”
Some are making do, others are legitimately sucking up to Trump at his rallies calling him all sorts of deifying language and making everything feel very culty. You are right that there probably isn’t a widespread groveling going on. I retract my comment.
“His low approval rating has to do with fabricated disasters and abhorrent attacks, and I might add a perverse issue with the society at large. This is basically a bunch of moral zealots, no different than Christian ones. It’s a lot of “I don’t like him” while disregarding policy and facts. I’ve never seen anything like this. It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 65% percent of the population roughly is falling for this horse manure.”
His low approval number is all his own making, I am afraid.
-Who spends most of his first month (and keeps bringing it up months later) talking about his election map and his inauguration numbers? Look up the term “sore winner” in a dictionary. A picture of a sour-faced Trump will be there. No caption or words necessary.
-Firing Comey and then blabbering on NBC that he did it to take care of the Russia issue.
-Attacking political rivals.
-Acting like an actual child when he doesn’t get his way.
-Attacking his own nominations (Sessions)
-Completely flopping on a TON of absolutely insane campaign promises
– A wall and MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT
– Lock Her Up!
– A SECRET way to defeat ISIS within 30 days!
– Repeal and Replace Obamacare on day 1 (we have a beautiful plan already to go)
– A promise that “Nobody will go without coverage. Premiums will be lower. Everything will be better.”
– He would release his tax returns
– Label China a currency manipulator
– Do I need to list more? It is insane to think that there is some conspiracy that has led to his historical low poll numbers.
– giving millions to Carrier who…still decided to ship off almost their entire workforce in that Indy plant to Mexico, only now armed with MILLIONS to AUTOMATE their plant!!!
– Major global policy missteps (One China policy, removing America from the Paris Accords joining the revered ranks of Syria and Nicaragua…, etc,etc,etc.)
Is there actual manure that people are falling for, or were you talking out of your a$$?
“Also, right wingers have not signed off on his every whim. You say cliché over the top phrases far too often, and you are the problem in society.”
LOL. Ok… When your most vocal critics in the party, McCain, Collins, and Murkowski have all signed on to 90% or more of the president’s inane and insane policy decisions. Then, you have yourself, Agent, and Yogi as shining bastions of reason who have never publically criticized the president once in my time visiting InsuranceJournal.com. Not ONCE. I am not saying cliches, I am not using unsupported arguments, I am not posting “FAKE NEWS!!!!!” I am not using trash websites to confirm my biases. In fact, I can admit that my assumption about ER visits going down with increased coverage was false. You helped me see that with actual resources.
I actively encourage debate and growth at all times, but arguing with a rubber wall is ridiculous. There is no sense in it. I can admit when I am wrong, can you?
Translation: “I have no way to refute your factual statements, so I will just call names like my fearless leader.”
This makes me smile more than you just ignoring the post. Knowing you couldn’t help yourself after a nice day of all that winning. The cherry on top. My moment of zen, if you will.
Thank you. :)
July 26, 2017 at 10:51 am
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Anyone hear anything about what the President or our elected officials are going to do about subsidies? The health insurance carriers (for what it’s worth, I am not employed by one) really need some direction ASAP.
Subsidies is a touchy topic with fiscally responsible Republicans. Subsidies will be limited in a way that there will eventually be market equilibrium. Novel ideas are being tested. You do NOT have the right to know what they are discussing, despite your lame claims to the contrary. Ask Nancy Pelosi to explain why you must wait for the solutions to be revealed after the methods are agreed upon behind closed doors.
N&B, who has brainwashed you? You really think that “novel ideas are being tested” by any Rep or Dem? The Dem’s wouldn’t have created the mess we’re in now if healthcare wasn’t headed on a collision course already and clearly the Rep’s had no definitive plan in mind either. The facts are simple – the medical community continues to create new drugs & treatments for previously untreatable illnesses, people are living longer, and everyone expects their granny and baby to be treated up to their last breath. We all expect to be treated equally when laying in a hospital bed. There’s no magic bullet here and you’re naïve for thinking so.
Wow, so much negativity in your reply. What’s your problem? Did I run over your dog in my car last night?
Maybe next time someone asks an on-topic question devoid of any political bias and does so in a non accusatory tone, you could just answer the question politely.
Yes, novel ideas are on the table. Subsidies are the WORST way to address high costs. Continue on with your antiquated thought processes, but don’t expect to be taken seriously in any meaningful discussion of high cost risks and how to lower the costs.
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Subsidies is a touchy topic with fiscally responsible Republicans. Subsidies will be limited in a way that there will eventually be market equilibrium. Novel ideas are being tested. You do NOT have the right to know what they are discussing, despite your lame claims to the contrary. Ask Nancy Pelosi to explain why you must wait for the solutions to be revealed after the methods are agreed upon behind closed doors.
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1. Replace the individual mandate tax penalty with a “health infrastructure tax;”
2. Devote the proceeds of the tax solely toward the costs of maintaining health facilities and emergency services; and
3. Waive the tax for anyone who acquires health insurance, individually or through an employer. The amount of the waiver can be adjusted to the scope of an individual’s coverage (see below).
I know that much of what I propose is simply semantics–renaming a “penalty” a “tax”–but there is some substance to my idea, and the communication is critical. Even people who don’t want health insurance need to help maintain facilities if they are accidentally injured, or if they injure someone else accidentally.
The tax need not be as high as a typical health insurance premium, as long as those paying it understand that it only preserves facilities; it doesn’t pay for their care, for which they are still on the hook.
Also, we could establish real choice, not the illusion of it, by scaling the tax waiver to an individual’s breadth of coverage (e.g., 100% for a “gold” plan, 75% for “silver,” 50% for “bronze”).
Reports out of Washington say that McCain is an early holdout in the votes…Doctors from Mayo Clinic in Arizona can confirm that they added a backbone during their surgery last week to remove a blood clot.
Lindsey Graham gets up and calls this bill horrible and a policy disaster and then says, “ok, I’ll vote for it, as long as Paul Ryan pinky swears they won’t just pass this without going to conference.”
Is Graham stupid? Conference means nothing and is non-binding. They could go to conference for an hour, chug more Natural Ice (you know they all drink piss-beer) and eat Papa John’s Pizza (the worst) and then come out saying, “We couldn’t come to an agreement, so we just have to pass it without changing the bill.”
The Hyper-partisan, red arm-band wearing communists who sit on the CBO said this “skinny” bill will mean 16 million more uninsured over the next 8 years. It also says that premiums will rise another 20% above where they would have already gone up. This bill is a disaster, even amongst other Republican Disaster Policies put forth over the past few weeks. Nobody wants it, including Republican governors, who are pleading them not to pass this.
Instead, they will pass the buck to the House and then try to wash their hands of it by saying, “well, we trusted the House to make it right…”
The House being the same House who earlier in the month passed their version which would mean ever MORE uninsureds over the next 8 years. Sure, I would trust them to do the right thing.
I feel like bob responding to myself multiple times, but HALLELUJAH. Not only did McCain’s reports of a backbone turn out to be proven correct for once.
Best part about this is that 49 Senators put their names on this crap bill and will now get to face that on every opposition campaign ad this next term.
Yogi – I am a big enough man to say this: Congratulations! Now you won’t be at risk of getting tired of winning.
“I feel like bob responding to myself multiple times, but HALLELUJAH. Not only did McCain’s reports of a backbone turn out to be proven correct for once. ”
I don’t respond to myself, and your comment here is in fact not just an intended insult, it’s a form of bullying especially linking the end which I will get to in a moment. I respond to myself? You know I literally don’t. The kid who makes replies that you put in a corner telling him he’s talking to himself? That’s bullying.
“Best part about this is that 49 Senators put their names on this crap bill and will now get to face that on every opposition campaign ad this next term.”
This shows your attitude and it’s a problem, the real problem. That is politics what you just said. Political points. The ACA is bad, do the democrats get to own it? It is definitely worse than what we had before for the middle class.
“Yogi – I am a big enough man to say this: Congratulations! Now you won’t be at risk of getting tired of winning.
Irony. You’re a little man saying that. Getting back to what I said I would: This is bullying. You’re a big enough man, to then throw in a satirical degrading insult? Go you! I’m glad you compare me to you. It isn’t much of a comparison, but it’s clear most people who do this are typically severely imbalanced. AKA UW.
Politics is standing up in front of your peers, telling how absolutely terrible a bill is and what a disgrace it would be if it were passed and made law…and then voting for it anyway.
Senator Graham, is that you?
Your president says far worse to people he dislikes and disagrees with, and you can’t take a little ribbing about your posting style? I suppose I should tap my chest and make stuttering noises, that would be more dignified and presidential of me…
Grow up and grow a pair, don’t be such a snowflake.
You know who keeps winning? President Obama. I have never seen so much lack of grace, respect, and honesty than this administration. What was that Boys Scout speech? What is Scaramucci? Sarah Huckleberry Sandbags is just completely dishonest with herself. This is exactly what I knew it would be, a laugh riot and the whole world is laughing AT US.
“I have never seen so much lack of grace, respect, and honesty than this administration”
This here, is the issue. This is how socialism breaks through every time. You’re basically just too stupid to know that.
Policy and bills. That is all that matters, anything else, allows tyranny. Go look at Russia. They talk exactly like this. Putin talks exactly like democrats, he has the same gig.
He says the same thing of his opponents when he cannot win a debate on policy. He appeals to those same things you just said. This is why those things must be ignored for sound policy debate.
This will be the most interesting time in this entire 115th Congress, you can put that in the books. They have been hilariously ineffectual since taking office, but they have a chance to shape a huge part of the federal budget for decades to come if they craft a bill worthy of support by both parties.
It was smart to kill the McConnell Bill, since that was a terrible, last-ditch effort to try and ram something through the door at the last minute. They needed to start fresh and figure out a way that, if they actually repeal the ACA, they replace it with something with that is better or the same in every regard.
If they do so, the Republicans come out with possibly the only major victory they can hang their hat on going into the midterms. Otherwise, the stain of Trump will be all over those that grovelled their way to his favor. Trump’s historically low approval rating for any president at this stage in his term will be a knock against any of the hardline rightwingers who have signed off on his every whim.
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Is this crib the same sources that told you in February it was coming next week and you had the details but couldn’t reveal them? Odd you are supporting a bill that isn’t written but whined about Obamacare which had almost a year of committee hearings and hundreds of amendments, including Republican ones. Oh wait, you are a True Conservative, and that goes against your beliefs so you don’t believe it, or look it up. Genius.
“Is this crib the same sources that told you in February it was coming next week and you had the details but couldn’t reveal them?”
Details had come, and versions of varying bills have been coming for years. It was pretty clear the democrats would try to block all areas they could, and they said as such, in public.
“Odd you are supporting a bill that isn’t written but whined about Obamacare which had almost a year of committee hearings and hundreds of amendments, including Republican ones.”
No, it’s not odd. Amendments come after bills are debated on the floor. In order to do that, the alternate party has to agree to bring bills to the floor. The democrats refused. They said any debate would be engaged in would be modifying the ACA. As a result, republicans moved to reconciliation. Amendments would still come, but at a later point. They introduced a bill, and then changed several aspects when the democrats complained, to reintroduce it again and again. They do have bills, it is insane to say they don’t.
“Oh wait, you are a True Conservative, and that goes against your beliefs so you don’t believe it, or look it up. Genius.”
Yes. Conservatives lack edumuficiation. This is old. Grow up kid.
Yogi claimed over and over he had inside sources but couldn’t reveal information. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You have no education. You just want to argue and pretend to be smart. You have not provided proof of mental assistance, so I’m still done with you, go away, stop commenting at me and harassing me, nutter.
“Repeal will come soon. At that point, I will still not be tired of winning.”
Hahahahaha, oh boy, the predictions just keep getting better.
I have been laughing all morning at Yogi’s greatest hits.
They just keep coming, too. He doesn’t know if he just stopped commenting that a lot would just blow over, but like his Dear Leader Trump, he can’t help but insert his foot in his mouth over and over.
I’m almost tired of winning, so a wait for ACA repeal is just the break from winning I need to not get burned out on winning.
Samll wins will come with TrumPresident repeals of EOs by BHO.
Have no issue with the Cruz proposal to sell lower costs policies that cover less but if we’re going to allow this then we, as a country, need to educate the public and prepare to let people know that some illnesses, treatments, drugs will not be covered based on the options the individual chose. That is the concept of insurance. So for those in the media crying about the horrendous treatment of the Charley Gard baby and bashing the UK healthcare, we may very well have a situation here in the US where parents chose & purchased a low cost policy and a baby with the same condition gets less care in the US than the UK. Can the American public handle this?
What are you basing your speculation about cancer / life impacting illnesses on? Parents are not going to eschew the low cost of such coverage for their children due to the very low frequency of such illnesses in youths. Please cite the frequency stats for infants and youths contracting cancer, for example. I’ll return to see what you’ve learned and can teach others.
That’s the agents job not some pin head answering an 800 ph number.
The overbearing stench of what Democrats did for the past 8 years is hard to fumigate. They were a bunch of thugs who imposed their will on the American People and since our POTUS was elected do nothing but “Resistance” to new ideas. Resistance is a losing cause and this reform will happen when the now infamous Obamacare totally implodes.
Democrats will never match the obstructive ways of Republicans…not that they will ever need to. Republicans can’t even pass bills when they hold a majority. They are their own worst enemy.
They only succeed when they have no skin in the game and can only yell from the sidelines (or the bench) “We could do better if we just got a chance!” but immediately fumble the ball on their first hand-off, even with open field in front of them and they are allowed holding on every play.
“This will be the most interesting time in this entire 115th Congress, you can put that in the books”
Have you always had this flare for the dramatic?
“They have been hilariously ineffectual since taking office, but they have a chance to shape a huge part of the federal budget for decades to come if they craft a bill worthy of support by both parties.”
Bull. Rather they have had to deal with the hilariously ignorant witch hunts on the left, and cry babies about losing. When the other side is busy trying to invoke treason on Jeffrey Sessions and Michael Flynn, we have a problem. Also, they slowed down the transition of power, by not having hearings in time.
“It was smart to kill the McConnell Bill, since that was a terrible, last-ditch effort to try and ram something through the door at the last minute. They needed to start fresh and figure out a way that, if they actually repeal the ACA, they replace it with something with that is better or the same in every regard.”
Do you like repeating news that much? Do you think for yourself? I doubt it.
“If they do so, the Republicans come out with possibly the only major victory they can hang their hat on going into the midterms. Otherwise, the stain of Trump will be all over those that grovelled their way to his favor.”
No one groveled to his favor. Nearly every day the news says that, but they are making do with their president. And when they don’t, we then blast them just the same. You are falling for political stunts.
“Trump’s historically low approval rating for any president at this stage in his term will be a knock against any of the hardline rightwingers who have signed off on his every whim.”
His low approval rating has to do with fabricated disasters and abhorrent attacks, and I might add a perverse issue with the society at large. This is basically a bunch of moral zealots, no different than Christian ones. It’s a lot of “I don’t like him” while disregarding policy and facts. I’ve never seen anything like this. It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 65% percent of the population roughly is falling for this horse manure.
Also, right wingers have not signed off on his every whim. You say cliché over the top phrases far too often, and you are the problem in society.
It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 35% percent of the population roughly keeps supporting this con man.
Most recent con: his “support” for the LGBT community but refusal to let them fight and die for our country. I would’ve been fine if he said “no taxpayer money will go towards transgender operations for those in the military” just like I don’t think we should pay for that for those in prison, but no, that’s not what he did.
Will the 1500-6000 transgendered folks currently serving be honorably discharged or dishonorably discharged? That’s really important IMO.
Yours is the concise version of a good response. Mine is the hilariously verbose version below. Grab a cup of coffee, some No-Doz caffeine pills and strap in, I may have written a novel to nobody else that will care to read. :)
You make great points. Watch, if something concrete comes out and Trump is impeached these same people will say how great Republicans are for participating even though they have enabled and supported it, and even if they don’t participate.
People who support repeal of ACA are NOT supporting a specific man. You win second place in today’s Ted Baxter Award.
“Have you always had this flare for the dramatic?”
Tell me, what could be more interesting in the 2-year period than an historic health care battle? Their success or failure will make or break their entire term. Failure here is huge for multiple reasons:
1. Reps hold the majority everywhere. If they are unable to pass legislation it shows their constituents that they can’t get anything done, even when they are in power.
2. Trump said he is a deal-maker. If he can’t lead his party into concessions and give-and-take, it shows his dealmaking abilities were hilarious overstated. In reality, a deal-maker should actually only be necessary when his party did NOT hold the balance of power in congress, but that is just how poor Republicans are at advancing the ball. They promised touchdowns and blowouts victories, and may end up settling for a first down or two.
3. They voted multiple time to repeal Obamacare under Obama’s presidency. They voted symbolically to do it again under Trump, but if they are unable to actually accomplish it, once again, their constituents will see through their lies.
If their constituents lower their enthusiasm, a lot of R seats are toast in this election. So, YES, this is the most important issue and time for the 115th congress. Nothing DRAMATIC about it.
“Bull. Rather they have had to deal with the hilariously ignorant witch hunts on the left, and cry babies about losing. When the other side is busy trying to invoke treason on Jeffrey Sessions and Michael Flynn, we have a problem.”
Please, demonstrate the witch hunts on the left. Every single thing has panned out so far. Sessions had to recuse himself and everyone agrees except the President that he needed to do so. Flynn is a foreign agent and both men lied in their confirmation hearings about relations with Russians. Don Jr. meets with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to discuss Hillary-related dirt. Imagine, meeting with an adversial nation currently under sanctions by THE WORLD, and there is nothing funny about that? Manafort is a foreign agent with so much dirt on him they call him the Dust Bunny on Capitol Hill. The whole
administration is dirty. To think otherwise would be to ignore dozens of confirmed ooccurences where someone tied to the administration has lied, called out “FAKE NEWS!” and then has been proven to be lying and has said, “Oh yeah…uhh, I must have forgotten about that…well, it wasn’t anything serious…oh you have a recording??? well okay, I did it, but everyone else would have, too!!…FAKE NEWS!!!!”
If you can read this and not be absolutely furious about the administration covering their eyes and/or working with these criminals and savages, then you never will see. The House recently voted almost unanimously for increased sanctions against Russia. There is something HUGE going on. I can’t tie it all up for you, but you can yourself by reading this and putting it in perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/
“Also, they slowed down the transition of power, by not having hearings in time.”
They slowed down the transfer of power how? Please document democrat abuse of power that they somehow slowed down the Republican majority from holding hearings and confirming appointments in any meaningful way. From everything I have heard, the biggest obstruction of appointments has been the Trump admin itself. They have chosen to let a TON of federal positions go unfilled, including dozens of absolutely ESSENTIAL positions. Republicans and Democrats have acknowledged as much. His own Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said as much. You disagreeing won’t change that fact.
“Do you like repeating news that much? Do you think for yourself? I doubt it.”
This isn’t a commentary or even has refutation of my points. Refute my points instead of making a snide comment next time. There were obvious kickbacks and enticements in the last McConnell bill to try and ram something through, but it still got shot down. It was a terrible bill and whatever they do end up passing (I should say IF at this point), will end up better in every way, I am sure.
“No one groveled to his favor. Nearly every day the news says that, but they are making do with their president. And when they don’t, we then blast them just the same. You are falling for political stunts.”
Some are making do, others are legitimately sucking up to Trump at his rallies calling him all sorts of deifying language and making everything feel very culty. You are right that there probably isn’t a widespread groveling going on. I retract my comment.
“His low approval rating has to do with fabricated disasters and abhorrent attacks, and I might add a perverse issue with the society at large. This is basically a bunch of moral zealots, no different than Christian ones. It’s a lot of “I don’t like him” while disregarding policy and facts. I’ve never seen anything like this. It is literally making me lose faith in humanity that 65% percent of the population roughly is falling for this horse manure.”
His low approval number is all his own making, I am afraid.
-Who spends most of his first month (and keeps bringing it up months later) talking about his election map and his inauguration numbers? Look up the term “sore winner” in a dictionary. A picture of a sour-faced Trump will be there. No caption or words necessary.
-Firing Comey and then blabbering on NBC that he did it to take care of the Russia issue.
-Attacking political rivals.
-Acting like an actual child when he doesn’t get his way.
-Attacking his own nominations (Sessions)
-Completely flopping on a TON of absolutely insane campaign promises
– A wall and MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT
– Lock Her Up!
– A SECRET way to defeat ISIS within 30 days!
– Repeal and Replace Obamacare on day 1 (we have a beautiful plan already to go)
– A promise that “Nobody will go without coverage. Premiums will be lower. Everything will be better.”
– He would release his tax returns
– Label China a currency manipulator
– Do I need to list more? It is insane to think that there is some conspiracy that has led to his historical low poll numbers.
– giving millions to Carrier who…still decided to ship off almost their entire workforce in that Indy plant to Mexico, only now armed with MILLIONS to AUTOMATE their plant!!!
– Major global policy missteps (One China policy, removing America from the Paris Accords joining the revered ranks of Syria and Nicaragua…, etc,etc,etc.)
Is there actual manure that people are falling for, or were you talking out of your a$$?
“Also, right wingers have not signed off on his every whim. You say cliché over the top phrases far too often, and you are the problem in society.”
LOL. Ok… When your most vocal critics in the party, McCain, Collins, and Murkowski have all signed on to 90% or more of the president’s inane and insane policy decisions. Then, you have yourself, Agent, and Yogi as shining bastions of reason who have never publically criticized the president once in my time visiting InsuranceJournal.com. Not ONCE. I am not saying cliches, I am not using unsupported arguments, I am not posting “FAKE NEWS!!!!!” I am not using trash websites to confirm my biases. In fact, I can admit that my assumption about ER visits going down with increased coverage was false. You helped me see that with actual resources.
I actively encourage debate and growth at all times, but arguing with a rubber wall is ridiculous. There is no sense in it. I can admit when I am wrong, can you?
If you are employed, you need to be fired for wasting time at work, and for being BOT-like, biased, and often illogical.
Translation: “I have no way to refute your factual statements, so I will just call names like my fearless leader.”
This makes me smile more than you just ignoring the post. Knowing you couldn’t help yourself after a nice day of all that winning. The cherry on top. My moment of zen, if you will.
Thank you. :)
Anyone hear anything about what the President or our elected officials are going to do about subsidies? The health insurance carriers (for what it’s worth, I am not employed by one) really need some direction ASAP.
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N&B, who has brainwashed you? You really think that “novel ideas are being tested” by any Rep or Dem? The Dem’s wouldn’t have created the mess we’re in now if healthcare wasn’t headed on a collision course already and clearly the Rep’s had no definitive plan in mind either. The facts are simple – the medical community continues to create new drugs & treatments for previously untreatable illnesses, people are living longer, and everyone expects their granny and baby to be treated up to their last breath. We all expect to be treated equally when laying in a hospital bed. There’s no magic bullet here and you’re naïve for thinking so.
Wow, so much negativity in your reply. What’s your problem? Did I run over your dog in my car last night?
Maybe next time someone asks an on-topic question devoid of any political bias and does so in a non accusatory tone, you could just answer the question politely.
Yes, novel ideas are on the table. Subsidies are the WORST way to address high costs. Continue on with your antiquated thought processes, but don’t expect to be taken seriously in any meaningful discussion of high cost risks and how to lower the costs.
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Subsidies is a touchy topic with fiscally responsible Republicans. Subsidies will be limited in a way that there will eventually be market equilibrium. Novel ideas are being tested. You do NOT have the right to know what they are discussing, despite your lame claims to the contrary. Ask Nancy Pelosi to explain why you must wait for the solutions to be revealed after the methods are agreed upon behind closed doors.
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For what it’s worth now, here’s my plan:
1. Replace the individual mandate tax penalty with a “health infrastructure tax;”
2. Devote the proceeds of the tax solely toward the costs of maintaining health facilities and emergency services; and
3. Waive the tax for anyone who acquires health insurance, individually or through an employer. The amount of the waiver can be adjusted to the scope of an individual’s coverage (see below).
I know that much of what I propose is simply semantics–renaming a “penalty” a “tax”–but there is some substance to my idea, and the communication is critical. Even people who don’t want health insurance need to help maintain facilities if they are accidentally injured, or if they injure someone else accidentally.
The tax need not be as high as a typical health insurance premium, as long as those paying it understand that it only preserves facilities; it doesn’t pay for their care, for which they are still on the hook.
Also, we could establish real choice, not the illusion of it, by scaling the tax waiver to an individual’s breadth of coverage (e.g., 100% for a “gold” plan, 75% for “silver,” 50% for “bronze”).
Reports out of Washington say that McCain is an early holdout in the votes…Doctors from Mayo Clinic in Arizona can confirm that they added a backbone during their surgery last week to remove a blood clot.
Stay shameless, Republicans.
Lindsey Graham gets up and calls this bill horrible and a policy disaster and then says, “ok, I’ll vote for it, as long as Paul Ryan pinky swears they won’t just pass this without going to conference.”
Is Graham stupid? Conference means nothing and is non-binding. They could go to conference for an hour, chug more Natural Ice (you know they all drink piss-beer) and eat Papa John’s Pizza (the worst) and then come out saying, “We couldn’t come to an agreement, so we just have to pass it without changing the bill.”
The Hyper-partisan, red arm-band wearing communists who sit on the CBO said this “skinny” bill will mean 16 million more uninsured over the next 8 years. It also says that premiums will rise another 20% above where they would have already gone up. This bill is a disaster, even amongst other Republican Disaster Policies put forth over the past few weeks. Nobody wants it, including Republican governors, who are pleading them not to pass this.
Instead, they will pass the buck to the House and then try to wash their hands of it by saying, “well, we trusted the House to make it right…”
The House being the same House who earlier in the month passed their version which would mean ever MORE uninsureds over the next 8 years. Sure, I would trust them to do the right thing.
I feel like bob responding to myself multiple times, but HALLELUJAH. Not only did McCain’s reports of a backbone turn out to be proven correct for once.
Best part about this is that 49 Senators put their names on this crap bill and will now get to face that on every opposition campaign ad this next term.
Yogi – I am a big enough man to say this: Congratulations! Now you won’t be at risk of getting tired of winning.
“I feel like bob responding to myself multiple times, but HALLELUJAH. Not only did McCain’s reports of a backbone turn out to be proven correct for once. ”
I don’t respond to myself, and your comment here is in fact not just an intended insult, it’s a form of bullying especially linking the end which I will get to in a moment. I respond to myself? You know I literally don’t. The kid who makes replies that you put in a corner telling him he’s talking to himself? That’s bullying.
“Best part about this is that 49 Senators put their names on this crap bill and will now get to face that on every opposition campaign ad this next term.”
This shows your attitude and it’s a problem, the real problem. That is politics what you just said. Political points. The ACA is bad, do the democrats get to own it? It is definitely worse than what we had before for the middle class.
“Yogi – I am a big enough man to say this: Congratulations! Now you won’t be at risk of getting tired of winning.
Irony. You’re a little man saying that. Getting back to what I said I would: This is bullying. You’re a big enough man, to then throw in a satirical degrading insult? Go you! I’m glad you compare me to you. It isn’t much of a comparison, but it’s clear most people who do this are typically severely imbalanced. AKA UW.
Politics is standing up in front of your peers, telling how absolutely terrible a bill is and what a disgrace it would be if it were passed and made law…and then voting for it anyway.
Senator Graham, is that you?
Your president says far worse to people he dislikes and disagrees with, and you can’t take a little ribbing about your posting style? I suppose I should tap my chest and make stuttering noises, that would be more dignified and presidential of me…
Grow up and grow a pair, don’t be such a snowflake.
You know who keeps winning? President Obama. I have never seen so much lack of grace, respect, and honesty than this administration. What was that Boys Scout speech? What is Scaramucci? Sarah Huckleberry Sandbags is just completely dishonest with herself. This is exactly what I knew it would be, a laugh riot and the whole world is laughing AT US.
“I have never seen so much lack of grace, respect, and honesty than this administration”
This here, is the issue. This is how socialism breaks through every time. You’re basically just too stupid to know that.
Policy and bills. That is all that matters, anything else, allows tyranny. Go look at Russia. They talk exactly like this. Putin talks exactly like democrats, he has the same gig.
He says the same thing of his opponents when he cannot win a debate on policy. He appeals to those same things you just said. This is why those things must be ignored for sound policy debate.
Wow. Someone is feeling pleasant today.
And who keeps losing? Most of America.