It’s great that the Feds and Congressional Committee members are getting tough with this source of > 40,000 OD deaths a year. Hopefully, the Feds have a strong case against Kapoor, and send him to the Grey Bar Hotel for a long time.
Notice, if you re-read this article, that much of the same can be said about the pain reliver called ‘cannibas’. It’s effects don’t always result in death when you OD, but it has been shown recently, within a credible study, to contribute to cognitive disorders later in life. As such, some proof is already seen in those chronic users’ persistence in pushing for it to be legalized. Sadly, in some states, there are enough chronic users to elect legislators who are likely chronic users who enact legislation to gradually legalize it, starting with its use as an alternative pain med.
Happily, for the sake of preserving the US, the legal tide is turning, and alternative pain meds will replace opioids and pot.
If I had to choose between taking something from which I could die or take something that may contribute to cognitive disorders later in life, I will go with the latter. How about you?
“It’s effects don’t always result in death when you OD” here, let me edit that for you: “It’s effects ***if you’re only using marijuana at the time, HAVE NEVER*** resulted in death when you OD”
Can you cite ONE example where someone died SOLELY of overdosing on marijuana? Not “weed + another drug” not “driving under the influence of weed” but actual OD’ing just from using marijuana. Is there even ONE example to prove your argument here? Ready….steady…go
Agent,
I checked into scromiting and it is a real condition which the scientific name behind it is cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome which is also a very rare condition. One problem with this is we do not know what truly causes this yet and the idea that it is prolonged cannabis use is a theory that has not been tested. If we were to legalize and regulate this industry maybe we will find out the real cause of this rare condition.
Sure it is a real condition. California reports that it has shown up with heavy Recreational Pot users. Why would anyone want to legalize this mind altering drug that often leads to heavier use of other drugs which in turn kills more people?
Agent,
Yes there are dangers, but there are many legal things that also alter the mind: Coffee, Alcohol, and Opiods just to name a few. While there are dangers, if you cannot acknowledge the there are also benefits to this than you are too biased on the subject. This is an unknown reason why it is happened, and again the idea that it is caused by cannabis is a theory that is untested. Also they did note that an easy way to rid of the symptoms is a hot shower. Again this condition is rare, why should we not study it? Also alcohol also will make you throw up after one time of doing it too much, so again you are showing your biased views.
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helpingout is not helping out users of pot by claiming something (pot) isn’t doing what a recent study concluded it did (cause alternating vomit and screaming).
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Here’s something that is proven to alter the cognitive ability of adults after a period of continuous usage: pot. Search for recent studies. Then either accept them as facts, or go away to let people read truths instead of your Goebbels-type lies.
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Polar,
Again I am not saying there are no dangers, but this is a rare condition we do not know what causes this. The problem with using this agreement is that it is a relatively new disease that we do not know much about. One research on the case is not enough proof for cause. It is enough for a theory. Replication is key to making research stick. We have many legal things in the US that are mind altering as well and worse for people that are regulated, so if a law abiding citizen chooses to do this I see it the same as alcohol.
What about you? you rarely use credible sources and for the most part you are extremely biased with no real base when it comes to this. This needs to be examined more to find the root of the cause of this again RARE disorder.
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But again we need to stop shifting the focus away from the drug manufacturers on this. Yes I understand that you and agent believe that the negatives outweigh the positives of Cannabis (if you believe in any positives the way you both talk about it) which is your personal opinions. This post was targeted at the epidemic in the US opioids that cause many US citizens to OD.
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I’ve lived on both sides of this equation. Not once have I had to deal with this new thing. However, living with the side effects of the narcotics creates problem that go beyond the problems of the person taking the narcotics. Its much easier for the family to deal with the side effects of the pot taker – smoker / pill form / cookie form or topical cream.
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It’s great that the Feds and Congressional Committee members are getting tough with this source of > 40,000 OD deaths a year. Hopefully, the Feds have a strong case against Kapoor, and send him to the Grey Bar Hotel for a long time.
Notice, if you re-read this article, that much of the same can be said about the pain reliver called ‘cannibas’. It’s effects don’t always result in death when you OD, but it has been shown recently, within a credible study, to contribute to cognitive disorders later in life. As such, some proof is already seen in those chronic users’ persistence in pushing for it to be legalized. Sadly, in some states, there are enough chronic users to elect legislators who are likely chronic users who enact legislation to gradually legalize it, starting with its use as an alternative pain med.
Happily, for the sake of preserving the US, the legal tide is turning, and alternative pain meds will replace opioids and pot.
I would rather have someone smoking pot or taking it in pill form or topical cream then popping narcotics. Been there, done that with both. Its much easier with the weed on those that surround the person in pain. Additionally, the person smoking pot is more functional.
It never does anything, unfortunately. Nobody ever holds their own representatives’ feet to the fire for taking donations from special interests that frankly don’t align with their constituents. Look at the telecom industry’s donations to both sides of the aisle and see who voted to end Net Neutrality, for example. Something literally no one with a brain wants and yet, here we are.
Your post ended in an ambiguity; which do you claim isn’t wanted: net neutrality or lack of it?
If you claim net neutrality is an ideal condition, why hasn’t the internet fallen apart after it’s ‘repeal’?
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Feel free to cite that study.
If I had to choose between taking something from which I could die or take something that may contribute to cognitive disorders later in life, I will go with the latter. How about you?
Feel free to find it yourself. I just did; it’s easy to find, except if you don’t want to find it.
My memory is hazy all of a sudden. I seem to remember you just complaining about me not doing your research for you.
Just as you did (mistakenly, in your case), we will just go ahead an not believe you without proof, but thanks for commenting all the same. :)
Since there are many studies out there, I want to make sure I research the correct one.
If you will not or cannot cite the study, just admit it and reveal yourself as a liar. Otherwise, CITE YOUR SOURCE!!
“It’s effects don’t always result in death when you OD” here, let me edit that for you: “It’s effects ***if you’re only using marijuana at the time, HAVE NEVER*** resulted in death when you OD”
Can you cite ONE example where someone died SOLELY of overdosing on marijuana? Not “weed + another drug” not “driving under the influence of weed” but actual OD’ing just from using marijuana. Is there even ONE example to prove your argument here? Ready….steady…go
You need help with your reading comprehension.
I thought I comprehended your post correctly, but maybe I didn’t. That’s entirely possible. Help me out, though. What did I not comprehend properly?
Yes, Polar, the new side effect of Pot is called Scromiting. Alternate screaming and vomiting. That is what the “resistance” is doing every day.
Agent,
I checked into scromiting and it is a real condition which the scientific name behind it is cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome which is also a very rare condition. One problem with this is we do not know what truly causes this yet and the idea that it is prolonged cannabis use is a theory that has not been tested. If we were to legalize and regulate this industry maybe we will find out the real cause of this rare condition.
Sure it is a real condition. California reports that it has shown up with heavy Recreational Pot users. Why would anyone want to legalize this mind altering drug that often leads to heavier use of other drugs which in turn kills more people?
Agent,
Yes there are dangers, but there are many legal things that also alter the mind: Coffee, Alcohol, and Opiods just to name a few. While there are dangers, if you cannot acknowledge the there are also benefits to this than you are too biased on the subject. This is an unknown reason why it is happened, and again the idea that it is caused by cannabis is a theory that is untested. Also they did note that an easy way to rid of the symptoms is a hot shower. Again this condition is rare, why should we not study it? Also alcohol also will make you throw up after one time of doing it too much, so again you are showing your biased views.
helpingout is not helping out users of pot by claiming something (pot) isn’t doing what a recent study concluded it did (cause alternating vomit and screaming).
Here’s something that is proven to alter the cognitive ability of adults after a period of continuous usage: pot. Search for recent studies. Then either accept them as facts, or go away to let people read truths instead of your Goebbels-type lies.
Polar,
Again I am not saying there are no dangers, but this is a rare condition we do not know what causes this. The problem with using this agreement is that it is a relatively new disease that we do not know much about. One research on the case is not enough proof for cause. It is enough for a theory. Replication is key to making research stick. We have many legal things in the US that are mind altering as well and worse for people that are regulated, so if a law abiding citizen chooses to do this I see it the same as alcohol.
Check in again, with a credible source this time.
What about you? you rarely use credible sources and for the most part you are extremely biased with no real base when it comes to this. This needs to be examined more to find the root of the cause of this again RARE disorder.
But again we need to stop shifting the focus away from the drug manufacturers on this. Yes I understand that you and agent believe that the negatives outweigh the positives of Cannabis (if you believe in any positives the way you both talk about it) which is your personal opinions. This post was targeted at the epidemic in the US opioids that cause many US citizens to OD.
I’ve lived on both sides of this equation. Not once have I had to deal with this new thing. However, living with the side effects of the narcotics creates problem that go beyond the problems of the person taking the narcotics. Its much easier for the family to deal with the side effects of the pot taker – smoker / pill form / cookie form or topical cream.
Just one mans experience for what its worth.
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It’s great that the Feds and Congressional Committee members are getting tough with this source of > 40,000 OD deaths a year. Hopefully, the Feds have a strong case against Kapoor, and send him to the Grey Bar Hotel for a long time.
Notice, if you re-read this article, that much of the same can be said about the pain reliver called ‘cannibas’. It’s effects don’t always result in death when you OD, but it has been shown recently, within a credible study, to contribute to cognitive disorders later in life. As such, some proof is already seen in those chronic users’ persistence in pushing for it to be legalized. Sadly, in some states, there are enough chronic users to elect legislators who are likely chronic users who enact legislation to gradually legalize it, starting with its use as an alternative pain med.
Happily, for the sake of preserving the US, the legal tide is turning, and alternative pain meds will replace opioids and pot.
I would rather have someone smoking pot or taking it in pill form or topical cream then popping narcotics. Been there, done that with both. Its much easier with the weed on those that surround the person in pain. Additionally, the person smoking pot is more functional.
And when does the digging into PAC’s and campaign contributions start? That’s when there will be fun.
It never does anything, unfortunately. Nobody ever holds their own representatives’ feet to the fire for taking donations from special interests that frankly don’t align with their constituents. Look at the telecom industry’s donations to both sides of the aisle and see who voted to end Net Neutrality, for example. Something literally no one with a brain wants and yet, here we are.
Your post ended in an ambiguity; which do you claim isn’t wanted: net neutrality or lack of it?
If you claim net neutrality is an ideal condition, why hasn’t the internet fallen apart after it’s ‘repeal’?
You need help with your reading comprehension. He clearly is saying nobody with a brain wants the end of Net Neutrality.
The Pharma lobby is very strong and have many legislators in their pocket. Better not come on too strong since many live in glass houses.