Google Upheld in Firing of Conservative Employee Who Criticized Diversity Policies

By | February 20, 2018

  • February 20, 2018 at 7:42 am
    DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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    • February 20, 2018 at 10:23 am
      Augustine says:
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      When did stating the obvious reality that there are “biological differences between the sexes” become pseudoscience? I have not read this person’s memo, but it seems like the identity politics peddlers are the ones dealing in pseudoscience. Just out of curiosity, since you have read the memo, which part are you referring to as being pseudoscience?

      I agree with you regarding his first amendment rights. If you work for a private company and say something largely out of step with their corporate culture, you can expect to be fired. The same goes for 501(C)(3)s, not for profits etc. The first amendment guarantees our freedom of speech rights in regards to government action, repression, etc.

    • February 20, 2018 at 3:33 pm
      Agent says:
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      Polar, it seems to be fine for Progressive Liberal organizations to do things like this, but a Conservative is banned or fired for his beliefs and discrimination is done against him. Google is now a joke and I will use other search engines from now on.

      • February 20, 2018 at 4:09 pm
        Ron says:
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        Coming from someone who has stated they would never hire a Liberal and would fire someone if he found out they have Liberal views.

        • February 21, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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          Why don’t you focus on what is right and wrong without trying to call one side or the other a hypocrite?

          It’s like watching Jerry Springer with you, you act like a child.

          • February 22, 2018 at 10:45 am
            Ron says:
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            Google, Agent and any other employer who factors political viewpoints into hiring decisions are wrong.

            Happy now?

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm
            bob says:
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            “Google, Agent and any other employer who factors political viewpoints into hiring decisions are wrong.
            Happy now?”

            Actually, yes. This is the best thing you’ve said in a while.

            But surely you now realize that when you called people hypocrites on this issue, and we even debated on it, you were a bit out of line.

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:43 pm
            bob says:
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            Just to put a branch to unity here:

            You are free to show me when a liberal has been unjustly fired, and I promise to side with you on it.

            If for example Agent fired or didn’t hire a liberal, I’ll tell him it’s absolutely inappropriate. However, don’t focus on Agent’s ignorant habits to kind of throw it back at conservatives when something unjust is going on in the future. You knew it was unjust. We should agree when unjust things happen.

          • February 23, 2018 at 2:18 pm
            Ron says:
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            “But surely you now realize that when you called people hypocrites on this issue, and we even debated on it, you were a bit out of line.”

            No, thank you.

          • February 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm
            bob says:
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            “No, thank you.”

            Well, it’s irrelevant if you admit it, by default you just said you agree, and you definitely argued with me about it.

            So it was out of line.

            I’m sorry, you’re going to have to swallow that ego sooner or later.

          • February 25, 2018 at 10:22 am
            Ron says:
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            The hypocrite is the one who is out of line, not the one who points it out.

      • February 21, 2018 at 8:31 am
        Hmmm says:
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        Maybe it’s because conservative’s social beliefs are to discriminate against women, minorities, gays, and trans people.

        • February 21, 2018 at 3:56 pm
          bob says:
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          “Maybe it’s because conservative’s social beliefs are to discriminate against women, minorities, gays, and trans people.”

          Completely incorrect.

          • February 22, 2018 at 8:59 am
            Cut the Bias says:
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            What was your stance on gay marriage again? It seems to have slipped my mind.

          • February 22, 2018 at 11:30 am
            What? says:
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            Stance on gay marriage, abortion, women’s contraceptives, trans bathroom policies…?

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm
            bob says:
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            “What was your stance on gay marriage again? It seems to have slipped my mind.”

            I’ve never told you my stance, you complete brat. Don’t you dare talk to me like that.

            Do you even know the republican stance?

            I highly doubt it. I already debated this with Ron back in the day.

            Abortion debates are not a women’s rights issue, they are a moral issue. I know your mind is too small to grasp that, but that is the ONLY bipartisan way to look at abortion. There are those against it, for moral reasons, and those for it, for their own moral reasons. None of those reasons are sexist.

            There is a reason I don’t debate abortion, it’s because I don’t care about it as a hot issue. I have an opinion on it, but I don’t care to take the government into it. Those who do, I don’t care on that end either. The fact that anyone would use this as a voting block on either side is sick, and I refuse to. There are way bigger fish to fry, namely economic policy, which is my biggest voting concern.

            Same goes for contraceptives, on every aspect. Also, there are no republicans advocating for making them illegal. If you’re referring to making them free, or government handed out, or default on insurance policy, it is not women’s rights which makes me against this. It is the economic aspect which will surely increase costs, and they are completely affordable. The government doesn’t need to handle that.

            Regarding Trans bathroom policies: There is nothing racist or against trans by being against trans in the bathroom. I also don’t hold an opinion here, but I’m aware some people do. The people who do are not bigoted.

            Regarding gay marriage, my stance is as follows, and this mirrors the republican party:

            Gay people can and should be able to do what they want and get married. A direct port of marriage cannot be done for multiple reasons. It could lead to force over churches in one point. In my state the discrimination laws already seem to be geared toward this, and I’ve quoted the law as it is, and what republicans blocked as well as why.

            The other aspect goes into detail as to why porting the law over doesn’t make sense in terms of needs of gay married people.

            It should be it’s own bill.

            That is not unreasonable. At all.

            It is not at all appropriate to call people on one party side against women, trans, etc, and sexist, and then to be snide assuming crap about me Cut the bias. That shows you have quite a lot of bias, if you believe one party is a bunch of sexist bigoted anti gay folks.

            Your name is a punch line. Nothing more. As I’ve said before.

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:37 pm
            bob says:
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            “Stance on gay marriage, abortion, women’s contraceptives, trans bathroom policies…?”

            I should note that while I don’t want to debate trans bathroom laws, here is my full commentary on it, I even avoided it right then:

            The government should ABSOLUTELY not be involved in forcing public or private entities to make trans bathroom laws.

            This is one the government should not be involved in. Your social justice needs to stay out of laws.

            You don’t seem to realize that there currently are no bathroom laws, you want to create them and it’s stupid as all hell.

            This is what shows the aspects of the totalitarian left, which is why I am republican.

            I have seen numerous commentary from democrats in politics, and colleges, which definitely shows they want to regulate thought, and what is or is not ok to say.

            This is a big deal.

            I have seen them make opinions evil, which you just did, to degrade their opponents. While it happens on both sides, most the degrading from the right are older folks. I do not actually like older republicans.

            Younger ones however, nearly ALL the bullies are college educated extremely smart folks who should know better, and there are nearly no republican bullies in college. Nearly none. They do not shut down liberal protests, they don’t cause huge issues, there is no right side version of ANTIFA, and they are on my side of the political spectrum, most importantly.

            You seem to be upset by the older folks, and when you go to that age range, democrats share the same problems, and there is massive overlap.

            I’m 32, but I’m a very contentious 32 year old. I watched what the left tried to do with me and my siblings in school and it was sick. I watched what younger leftists did, and it was sick.

            I also bridged the gap. I would see the 40-60 year old folks and could tell them what the concerns were with those 18-35. This isn’t to brag, there is a demographic gap which has become such a chasm they don’t even understand each other at this point.

            I see people on that side, 40-60, as needing rehabilitation. And I do as such. You see them as racist sexist evil people, to that, I see you as immoral.

            I was an atheist until 25, I was an agnostic past that, and I still kind of am. I want to be Catholic but cannot muster up the belief.

            I was raised in a liberal household in a liberal state. I don’t have your bias.

            I do see elements on both sides which disturb me, and I make comment on that fact. You bias, have sided quite clearly and uniformly with the far left. Not the center left. The far left. I’m quite confident you do not presently know what the center right is, considering what you have said to me.

            I don’t have time for this debate. Grow up.

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm
            bob says:
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            “You don’t seem to realize that there currently are no bathroom laws, you want to create them and it’s stupid as all hell.”

            So in other words, no one can report to the police that there is a improper bathroom usage going on, unless they are reporting that it’s in their establishment and they were not ok with it, and then it becomes a matter of trespassing type of dispute.

            In Canada we already have laws forcing pronoun use. Bathroom use is the first step to that.

            It’s not ok.

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:51 pm
            Cut the Bias says:
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            LOL, bob, never change buddy.

            Between:
            “This is the only way to debate this issue.”
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            “Separate but equal is totally cool with me”

            it would be impossible to debate you, since you purport to know the other side’s argument and dismiss it entirely before you even hear it.

            By all means, though, force transgender women to use men’s bathrooms, and vice-versa, and see what happens. A group of already-maligned people will be further subjected to abuse and having police called on them, and being abused by predators. How dare you insinuate that because someone is transgender, it makes them a sexual deviant. That is the ONLY way to interpret the idea that banning them from using the bathroom of their gender “makes sense.”

            If you represent the GOP’s platform, you confirm their bigotry 100%.

    • February 20, 2018 at 3:36 pm
      Sally Anne Fannymaker says:
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      The First Amendment only protects a person from prosecution by the government. In 49 out of 50 states, employment relationships are considered “at will.” This means that the employer may terminate the employment for any reason (or for no reason at all). Some of those states have categories of protection that include race, national origin, gender, age, religion, pregnancy, family status, veteran status, disability, ethnic makeup and sexual orientation (in some states).

      You can absolutely be fired for being a conservative; you can be fired for being a liberal.

      I’m always shocked by how many people think the First Amendment protects their speech in the workplace. I’m not shocked by this guy, though.

      • February 20, 2018 at 9:48 pm
        DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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        You are sorely mistaken in your claim about the protection of Constitutional rights. Ask an employment lawyer, ASAP. Several state statutes come to mind. Do a Goo…. Bing search.

      • February 20, 2018 at 9:50 pm
        DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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        Workplace. You aren’t good at details. Re-read the story and do a Goo….Bing search of the details of this plaintiffs action, and the circumstances.

  • February 20, 2018 at 10:46 am
    cubicle rat says:
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    “I didn’t realize it was discrimination until if affected me directly.”

  • February 20, 2018 at 1:18 pm
    Benjamin Dover says:
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    While I believe that google has the right to fire anyone for any reason, these affirmative action social justice programs are disgusting forms of racism and sexism and will backfire which is probably the true objective, to manufacture new racism and the demand for more intervention. Content of character and not by skin color is the opposite of what the SJW’s want. Damore is right.

    • February 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm
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      Damore is wrong. It’s the law. We don’t discriminate in the USA. Reverse racism and reverse sexism are terms made up by people that want you to be scared of “losing something” when everyone gets a fair shake. The fact people actually buy into these BS concepts says a lot about them. They are the ones that expect more rights based on the color of their white skin or male gender, not the other way around – they’re just scared to compete fairly. They are the same people that cry foul over safe spaces while actually demanding a safe space from “SJWs”, which is yet another way to dehumanize fellow Americans. Take a breath and get a grip. Hate and discrimination is wrong. Period.

      • February 20, 2018 at 9:53 pm
        DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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        Consult with an employment lawyer. I know of a specific instance of a manager who wanted to fire a worker for what was discovered about his political activism, but was told by counsel he couldn’t unless he wanted to cause a lawsuit. Get over yourself, because you THINK you know the law. You don’t, plain and simple. As I started out this post,…. consult with an ET Lawyer, ASAP.

      • February 21, 2018 at 3:57 pm
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        Damore did not discriminate.

        The rest of your argument is clearly virtue signaling and I refuse to debate it.

  • February 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm
    Retired UW says:
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    The suit was about Google’s right to fire somebody for whatever reason they deem appropriate that is not otherwise prohibited by federal or state law. Those of you who think Damore was unlawfully terminated are wrong. Was Google discriminatory in firing him for his conservative manifesto? Yes. Was it unlawful discrimination? No.

    • February 20, 2018 at 6:31 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Imagine if Damore said the same, exact things, but was gay like Peter Thiel (who just moved from Silicon Valley to Los Angeles for the express purpose of getting away from the oppressive, intolerant left).

      Or imagine if Damore was black and said the exact same things.

      Response from Google: silence. And we all know it.

      Tolerance: a value espoused by people who ignore their own intolerance.

    • February 20, 2018 at 9:55 pm
      DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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      Wrong. Consult with an employment lawyer, or corporate lawyer, or EXPERIENCED HR Manager. Talking out of your arse on a message board about what you know not is a sign of arrogance. Do a Goo…. Bing search of state statutes, or ask a lawyer about them.

  • February 20, 2018 at 5:59 pm
    UW says:
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    Nice job by IJ deleting comments but leaving BS and hate speech by the usual suspects.

    • February 20, 2018 at 9:56 pm
      DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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      I hates peaches.

    • February 20, 2018 at 9:59 pm
      DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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      Did you notice my initial comment was ‘hidden’, not deleted. So, IJ allows people to view things that aren’t popular, or which have been manually BOTTED by friends at a coffee house, by clicking on the ‘click to view’ button. Have a nice day. By the way, I hates peaches. Uh, I mean I hate peaches; they are difficult to eat without getting messy.

      • February 21, 2018 at 10:31 am
        helpingout says:
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        Please stop saying there are bots on here. It is untrue and annoying at this point. People do not agree with your view points at times and that is it. The notion bots are silencing you, a conservative, is not correct.

      • February 21, 2018 at 3:01 pm
        Come on, Man says:
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        RUSSIAN BOTSSSS

  • February 21, 2018 at 9:29 am
    Captain Planet says:
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    Well, one thing is now certain. We don’t ever have to read the line, “GOOgle it. Ready. Steady. Go.”

    It will now be “Bing it”. Without a doubt. Sean Hannity and his minions will now be boycotting Google. Hilarious!

  • February 21, 2018 at 1:47 pm
    Captain Planet says:
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    The YouTube advertiser boycott didn’t harm Google. What exactly do you expect to impact by boycotting, Yogi and Agent?



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