Study Suggests Pedestrian Fatalities May be Linked to Smartphone, Marijuana Use

March 1, 2018

  • March 1, 2018 at 7:47 am
    Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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    • March 1, 2018 at 3:55 pm
      ??? says:
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      Do you want to add Climate Change to your list?

      • March 1, 2018 at 5:29 pm
        Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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        No. Write your own list.

    • March 2, 2018 at 5:01 pm
      Agent says:
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      I will stand with you even if you get down voted by the stoners in this forum. You speak the truth, but they will not recognize it because they like that high they get. Most are in the beginning stages of “Scromiting” and alternately scream followed by vomiting.

  • March 1, 2018 at 1:13 pm
    Doug Spencer says:
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    Any research done on how many pedestrians are killed due to “quieter” electric vehicles.
    Assume a vehicle that you can not hear may surprise more distracted or pedestrians with music earphones.

    • March 1, 2018 at 5:33 pm
      Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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      You obviously missed the article posted on IJ where ‘someone’ responded to my post with the claim that the pedestrian fatality damages due to ‘quiet cars’ was ‘crumbs’, then later reversed his position after reading further into the issues / article.

      I haven’t visited that article’s comments page recently. It might be getting spooky quiet, like electricars.

    • March 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm
      County Line says:
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      Good point, Doug. The most notable trio of potent changes to hit our roads are: 1–Legalized recreational marijuana, 2–Massive surge in Smart Phone use, and 3–Rise in number of electric vehicles in use. With the first two being such a hot topic, the data would give people much less to argue about if the study broke down the fatalities (as well as non-fatal injuries) per each of the 3 categories. Certainly there will be some overlap, but it would be very interesting to see how many of the vehicle/pedestrian collisions involved all three in the same incident.

  • March 1, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    Biggs says:
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    I have no doubts that cell phone usage is a driver distraction and that legalization of marijuana both could be a contributing factor in pedestrian deaths. However, what is missing is factual evidence but an inferred conclusion. Often, I see pedestrians absorbed in their cell phones crossing intersections without paying attention to vehicles making turns or traveling through the intersection. Wonder if they are including bicyclists here as well? Transportation studies always hang fatality increases with marijuana intoxication. This is a statistic they did not previously well document. The ineffective detection in past field sobriety or accident incidents while under the influence of marijuana intoxication impacts the statistics. What about those incidents involving alcohol and marijuana use? My whole point here is that we need factual info more than two years worth. Any intoxication or distraction by drivers and pedestrians does impact potential fatalities. Marijuana use has been documented in student studies it is declining. Just the facts, not supposition, man!

    • March 6, 2018 at 4:37 pm
      Agent says:
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      Stoner cyclists are in just as much danger as pedestrians, especially if they are also texting while riding.

      • March 7, 2018 at 8:58 am
        Captain Planet says:
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        Ill-regulated diabetic cyclists are in just as much danger as pedestrians, especially if they are also texting while riding.

  • March 1, 2018 at 1:50 pm
    Jack says:
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    Who will stand with me in demanding we raise the age of purchase on all of the items above to 21 to end the needless death of so many Americans?

    Though so.

    • March 1, 2018 at 2:26 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Most of the mass shooters were over age 21. Adam Lanza got the guns from his Mom, so no point in an age limit there.

      How about the common element: mental illness.

      We (liberals/Democrats) took down our laws allowing for the forced treatment of the mentally ill 4 decades ago. Most liberals object to Background Checks that would include the mentally ill (privacy rights and civil rights, don’t you know).

      So your age limit is quite pointless. Unless you raise it to 25. But getting that passed is as impossible as getting guns banned.

      (FBI statistics on average annual murders in America with semi-automatic rifles: 18. Handguns: 3,000 plus. Hours of CNN and MSNBC “ban the AR-15”: 7345 and counting.)

      • March 1, 2018 at 3:45 pm
        Confused says:
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        Most liberals object to Background Checks that would include the mentally ill (privacy rights and civil rights, don’t you know).

        Is this sarcasm? Did you mean to write Conservatives? Source please.

        • March 1, 2018 at 4:35 pm
          Perplexed says:
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          Confused you must be too young to remember the release of so many mentally ill people from state hospitals and state schools about 40 years ago. It was a sad thing.

          • March 2, 2018 at 8:06 am
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            Maybe I am, but did they all get guns after being released?

        • March 2, 2018 at 1:43 pm
          bob says:
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          “Did you mean to write Conservatives?”

          Source, please.

          You’re about to see how democrats play the game Confused, and then I would love it if you finally admit it.

          So democrats just want background checks to include the mentally ill right? Not get guns out of more people’s hands? Then why did they flip? This and many others released in the wake of Trump’s comments about conceding background checks for mentally ill folks, is a complete reversal. The answer is clear: They used that phrase, they never wanted background checks for the mentally ill, they wanted guns out of the hands of folks. In the case of the only mentally ill area that republicans blocked, it was regarding age limits to own guns essentially, as the impairments mentioned had nothing to do with violence, and everything to do with state of mind in a way someone won’t suddenly change to be violent, however everyone will eventually reach that state of mind trigger and have their guns taken away. It would essentially be an age limit, and the democrats knew this and were definitely trying to simply take away guns. Republicans fought it, then the democrats said that republicans wanted mentally ill people to have guns. Keep in mind above, given the below link, which CNN also talked about live, right alongside talking about weapon bans, which is their real goal.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/fact-check-parkland-gun-violence-mental-illness.html

          It astounds me how much of this you miss from the left, and it’s laughable how horrible this is on the left in cohorts with the media at large. This is why we call it fake news.

          The news knows better, they are misleading the public.

          They went from this:

          htt ps://ww w.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/opinion/congress-says-let-the-mentally-ill-buy-guns.html

          On February 15th 2017, which was essentially peddled saying “we just want background checks for mental health!” when really this is the age requirement essentially I mentioned.

          To the above linked, in which they called republicans basically misleading regarding gun violence when they said mental health was an issue with shootings.

          Which is it? Is mental health an issue? Should it be regulated? Should it not?

          Find out next week, on Dragon Ball Z!

          This is obvious to anyone who pays attention, but I can tell you don’t.

          • March 2, 2018 at 1:51 pm
            Confused says:
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            “Did you mean to write Conservatives?” Source, please.

            You want me to source a question asking someone for clarification of what they meant? Come on. You’re supposed to be smarter than that.

        • March 2, 2018 at 1:48 pm
          bob says:
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          In other words:

          Beware the republicans when they block our “mental illness” checks! (Really an age requirement for guns)

          Beware the republicans when they look to pass bills for “mental illness” checks!

          Beware!!!

          By the way don’t look at us. Look at Trump.

    • March 6, 2018 at 8:00 am
      Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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      Does attaining age 21 mean a person is free from mental defects / problems, or is perfectly capable of making responsible, ‘prudent-man’ decisions? Let me know, so I can stand with you, or not.

  • March 1, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    Oh Goody says:
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    The common link here is vehicles. There can be no pedestrian deaths if there are no vehicles. Common sense dictates that we ban vehicles. Do it for the children.

    • March 6, 2018 at 8:03 am
      Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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      Using your logic, we should give free bicycles to all children and pedestrians, eliminating all pedestrian deaths due to any cause.

  • March 1, 2018 at 1:55 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    Marijuana causes distraction leading to injury?

    I thought all my Pothead friends told me marijuana was a magical elixir that cures everything including cancer, had no downsides, and was a victim of bad PR.

    • March 1, 2018 at 3:47 pm
      Rosenblatt says:
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      Come on Craig, we JUST talked about this only TWO days ago!!

      https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/02/28/481800.htm/?comments

      Me: ….are you aware that marijuana is more than just THC? CBD is NOT a hallucinogen and that chemical provides health benefits to those with chronic migraines, epilepsy, palsy, etc. There are strains of marijuana that contain 0% THC and ONLY contains CBD’s, so there are types of marijuana that have no hallucinogen qualities whatsoever.

      You: …Sounds great. Let me know when the rest of the potheads recognize that marijuana as medicine is almost always marijuana without THC.

      • March 1, 2018 at 5:38 pm
        Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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        Please explain how that info helps in discussing the issue for recreational pot states like Colorado?

        • March 2, 2018 at 8:07 am
          Rosenblatt says:
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          Please explain how Craig’s original post helps in discussing the issue for recreational pot states like Colorado?

          • March 6, 2018 at 8:07 am
            Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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            Craig used sarcasm effectively to stress the dangers of pot use.

            In another post, he replied to another poster who went off-topic onto gun use by mentally deranged users, to be distinguished from responsible gun owners who register their guns and follow all laws.

            Clear now?

          • March 6, 2018 at 11:48 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Craig’s post was not sarcasm, just like it wasn’t sarcasm when he wrote something similar in a different article…..so no, I’m still not clear.

        • March 2, 2018 at 10:29 am
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          Umm, yeah, Yogi…we’re going to need go ahead and move you downstairs into Storage B. We have some new people coming in and we need all the space we can get. So if you can just go ahead and pack up your stuff and move it down there, that would be terrific, ok?

          Yogi – Rosenblatt was responding to Craig’s post, which was disingenuous at best. I’d love to meet any pothead state it is a magic elixir that cures everything with no downsides. I have literally never heard anyone say that nor seen it written anywhere. Craig, like you and Agent, are on a crusade you cannot and will not win. Cannabis was made illegal when prohibition was reversed. Propaganda like “Reefer Madness” and Ronald Raygun have corrupted the minds of a certain generation. A generation which is thinning and that perspective thinning with it. We should be on a crusade to research and study this plant more for its benefits and harms alike.

          • March 2, 2018 at 11:13 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            “….but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn’t bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler….”

            Great reference Captain :)

          • March 2, 2018 at 1:14 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            You lefties crack me up, presenting everything you like as irreversible “progress”.

            How many people in the hood know the dangers of pot? 10%? 5%?

            I can tell you in upscale, educated communities, parents talk about real people whose kids dropped out of college or worse after going on pot binges. Nobody who is honest and knowledgeable thinks pot is good for your brain.

            Progress: Socialism (Cuba, Russia, China, Venezuela). Progress: family breakdown, so that childhood poverty rates in the US approach 40%. Progress: Surveys of people under 30 asking how many close friends they have; number one answer: zero.

          • March 2, 2018 at 1:42 pm
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            Craig,
            I know you have had a personal bad experience with your son, but you are very heavily biased on the subject. You say honest and knowledgeable people know the dangers. This is completely opinion based and I know you are referring only to those who believe Cannabis is bad. I know scientists who study the effects of this and they agree with the “lefties” more than you “righties” that there are negative effects, but also positive ones as well. They also see medicinal benefits in CBD over THC which we have discussed in multiple posts here. Do not put yourself on the high ground because you disagree that it is a useful and see it as a problem. Yes you had a negative situation with your son, but that does not mean everyone is irresponsible who us it. Many citizens around you who are regular members of society and function at (or above) your level as well as below at times.

          • March 2, 2018 at 1:46 pm
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            “Yes you had a negative situation with your son, but that does not mean everyone is irresponsible who us it. Many citizens around you who are regular members of society and function at (or above) your level as well as below at times.”

            Substitute the same verbiage with regard to liberal commentary currently after a shooting.

            You had a bad experience with guns, the experts realize there are some negatives but positives as well behind gun ownership for the vast majority, far in excess of pot users there are gun owners who are responsible, use them safely, keep their neighborhoods and families safe, and have positive affects.

            Why regulate or ban guns?

          • March 2, 2018 at 1:58 pm
            Confused says:
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            Why regulate or ban guns?

            Over 2,300 people have died in America this year alone from gun violence. 61 days in 2018 @ 2,300 deaths = 37.7 Americans dead (on average) from guns per day.

            Over 15,000 dead from guns in America in 2017. 365 @ 15,000 = 40 Americans dead (on average) from guns per day in 2017.

            How many Marijuana-related deaths have there been … … … ever? Feel free to include overdoses from THC because those gun numbers include suicides.

          • March 2, 2018 at 2:08 pm
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            bob,
            I am for regulating Cannabis as well. I also agree with regulations on guns. You are right. I support both.

          • March 2, 2018 at 2:11 pm
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            Bob,
            I do want to clarify that by saying I am for regulating guns I still believe it is an individual right to own a gun, within reason. I do not believe you should own a fully automatic weapon or a semi-automatic with a bump stock.

    • March 2, 2018 at 5:05 pm
      Agent says:
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      Craig, many of the stoners on this forum don’t see the correlation between getting stoned and death. It is just as deadly as Opiods.

      • March 5, 2018 at 8:59 am
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        Agent,
        Your post shows just how little you know about this subject. Categorically false. Cannabis is not just as deadly as opioids. You can literally overdose to the point of death on opioids. You cannot do the same with cannabis. Therefore, opioids are more deadly.

      • March 5, 2018 at 10:18 am
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        Agent, I have seen you post anti-marijuana comments in response to multiple articles (incl Field of Dreams and the guy at the Packers stadium), saying they were probably smoking pot with no evidence of that whatsoever, that’s libel. You are obviously biased against marijuana, yet seem to have little to no actual knowledge of it (your post here is a perfect example). I don’t know what has happened in your life to make you react like this, but please educate yourself before you post again about it. I don’t partake myself, but I have seen great benefit from it in cancer patients I know as well as those in chronic pain and saying its as deadly as Opioids is just not true.

        • March 6, 2018 at 8:10 am
          Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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          Please state the stats, then state how you interpret the 2 posts above yours.
          Next, state your legal credentials.

        • March 6, 2018 at 4:45 pm
          Agent says:
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          Brenda, sorry to rain on your parade. As an agent with the benefit of many years experience and reading all the horror stories on drug use, there is no defense of Cannabis. If you get started on it early on, it will fry your brain and lead you into much more harmful drugs which in turn kill you.

          • March 6, 2018 at 5:15 pm
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            Agent,
            Thank you for finally admitting you honestly have no clue other than anecdotal evidence. Many of us already knew you didn’t have a clue, but it took until now for you to admit it.

          • March 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm
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            Agent,
            I cannot believe you still believe Cannabis is a “gateway drug” to worse substances. That theory has been disproved countless times, and alcohol has a stronger correlation to this. Just because you hear stories, does not mean they are always 100% factual (especially ones that deal with abuse of a substance).

  • March 5, 2018 at 9:50 am
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    I can’t believe that in this day and age we still have to tell people not to smoke their smartphone…

    • March 6, 2018 at 8:11 am
      Tax Cuts 4 PolaRich Bears says:
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      We don’t.

  • March 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Libertarian says:
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    Can I just point out that it is completely possible to be for the legalization of cannabis AND for the right to bear arms?
    When are people going to realize that making something illegal doesn’t change the fact it is available at any time on the black market?! Why are we wasting our time and money?!
    Also, finger pointing at one political party or another as being ‘evil’ or ‘stupid’ is completely immature. We can all act like adults. And there are more than just two political parties.



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