Safety Worry: Keeping Humans In and Around Autonomous Vehicles Engaged

By , and | April 11, 2018

  • April 11, 2018 at 1:49 pm
    Agent says:
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    Tesla and Volvo need to seriously clean up their act or should be prevented from turning these flawed vehicles out on the road. Test for another 10 years at least.

    • April 11, 2018 at 2:13 pm
      sal says:
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      I agree with Agent on this one.

  • April 11, 2018 at 2:32 pm
    Kevin says:
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    The elephant in the room is that Tesla and Uber are both way behind in the AV technology race. Waymo and GM (Waymo especially) are way ahead. In 5 million miles driven they have been in no serious accident (only low speed fender benders, almost always a human driver’s fault). We don’t need to slow down or continue to test for decades on end. We need these vehicles to continue pounding the pavement as quickly as possible. With the addition of these new Volvo and GM orders, we’re going to see an exponential increase in miles driven by AVs, and hopefully a mastering of the last 1%.

    • April 11, 2018 at 3:09 pm
      Agent says:
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      Naivety and shilling for this flawed concept is not a virtue. At least 10 more years are needed to iron out all the kinks of autonomous vehicles. If you are so confident, volunteer to stand in the road and bet your life that car will always stop in time. The Volvo didn’t nor did the Tesla.

      • April 11, 2018 at 3:36 pm
        Counterpoint says:
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        This “testing” you mention is what is currently happening and has been happening for the last decade. What can be learned in an additional 10 years of non-real-world experience that wasn’t already? It seems like on-the-road testing would lead to rapid improvement as flaws are recognized.

        Additionally, your evidence for crashes and safety issues seems to be anecdotal. Actual studies are divided saying that they are either safer or less safe with tons of caveats as to accident type, fault, usage, and the level of autonomy.

        As for myself, I would be willing to bet my life that the car will stop in time. Millions of miles of testing is dependable if you don’t just look at the bad bits and focus on the bigger picture.

        • April 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          What can be learned in an additional 10 years of off-road testing? How not to kill pedestrians.

          • April 12, 2018 at 11:43 am
            Counterpoint says:
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            But how specifically? It seems like all of this opposition is just vague “boo, computers are bad, people are good”. The point of self-driving cars is not that they will stop all road fatalities but just severely reduce them. To steal a phrase “it will kill dozens to save hundreds”.

            If we can give 16-20 year olds drivers licenses and let them learn on the road I’m sure we can trust a computer.

    • April 11, 2018 at 9:34 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      Actually, testing should be proceeding at a … pedestrian pace.

      • April 12, 2018 at 7:58 am
        sal says:
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        BA-DUM-CRASH! love it…good stuff right there, Polar.

  • April 12, 2018 at 9:07 am
    Captain Planet says:
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    Like it or not, these vehicles are currently in our commercial trucking space and this exposure is growing rapidly, headed for heightened risks we will not be able to ignore in 2020. This, according to Charlie Kingdollar, who hardly if ever misses a beat. He is THE emerging risk expert in our industry. How many carriers do you know have an application question about autonomous vehicles in the fleet makeup? Better yet, have filed rates and/or exclusions for terms to address this technology? I personally don’t know of any and the risk is present today.

    • April 12, 2018 at 3:51 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Technology Expert? Who cares? This is all controlled by lawyers and politicians, the way the left runs everything.

      Do you really think the accident in Arizona was the last ever accident with a driverless car? Of course not.

      And EVERY accident will force manufacturers of driverless cars to try to prove the extremely complicated software wasn’t faulty. Proving a negative is nearly impossible and extremely expensive. Which will mean huge settlements. And so the lawyers and the politicians will make driverless car manufacturing so expensive that they will only be viable when they are perfect. Meaning zero accidents. Meaning never.

      • April 12, 2018 at 5:33 pm
        Agent says:
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        Craig, by the time they add all the technology to make the car viable, it will be far too expensive for a liberal to afford.

        • April 17, 2018 at 1:31 pm
          UW says:
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          More hate speech by Agent, the only logical explanation at this point is that Wells Media endorses it. Does your company endorse these views too Agent? Would the small businesses in Longview be fine going to you if they knew you engaged in hate speech, including abhorrent racist hate speech? Disgusting.

      • April 17, 2018 at 1:27 pm
        UW says:
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        Who cares what technology experts in the field think about technology!? The left, the left durrrr durrrr!!!

    • April 12, 2018 at 4:09 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Quiz time: Suzie is driving her own car and gets into an accident with an autonomous vehicle.
      Whose fault is it?

      Easy. Whoever has the most money. Guess who that is?

      • April 12, 2018 at 5:35 pm
        Agent says:
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        Craig, if Susie is not at fault and the autonomous vehicle had been hacked to cross the centerline, does she get a big reward from Tesla or Volvo. Pretty much impossible to determine the hacker.

      • April 13, 2018 at 11:35 am
        Rosenblatt says:
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        1) I do not think they’re perfectly safe. I’ve said give them another 10 years

        2) An island is not an estuary nor is an estuary an island

        3) I can criticize whomever I want. It’s a free country

      • April 13, 2018 at 12:15 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        APRIL 5, 2018 AT 11:36 AM
        Agent says:
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        Boring, we have already wised up. Time for you to do so.

      • April 13, 2018 at 12:18 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Okay, but still …. negligence is NOT decided on who has the deepest pockets. It’s based on the rule of law and statutes for the loss state.

      • April 13, 2018 at 2:23 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        If you guys hate the legal system so much, what do you want to get in bed with Tramp so bad?



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