Trump Administration Proposes Curbs on Opioid Manufacturers

By | April 19, 2018

  • April 19, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    C’mon Trump haters. Have at it. Trump is trying to do something about a terrible problem.
    Don’t give him credit; attack him.

    Let me help you: “It isn’t enough. It is too late. Obama would have saved everyone by doing nothing, which is what he did. Trump is somehow getting rich off of this, even if I can’t figure out how yet.”

    Okay, haters. GO!

    • April 19, 2018 at 2:02 pm
      sal says:
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      Can’t. I give him credit for this…it’s a good idea. I’ll also give him credit if he’s able to broker a peace deal with North and South Korea.

      The only thing stopping Trump from being a great president is Trump. He has some decent ideas but needs to grow up and stop inventing nicknames for his enemies, get off Twitter, admit when he’s wrong, and actually work on bringing the country TOGETHER as he said he would during his inauguration speech (I believed him when he said it).

      Before you bring up any other politician’s poor behavior / lies, etc. to justify Trump’s, I KNOW they all do it and they’re all sleazeballs…I want someone who is the exception and not the norm. Too much to ask?

      • April 19, 2018 at 2:18 pm
        Craig Cornell says:
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        Fair enough. I didn’t want Trump, but what was the choice?

        And I can separate Trump the loud mouth, overly sensitive, little boy from Trump the head of the Executive Branch. As apparently so can you. Most of what he is doing is good for the country.

        Which is my real point: everyone lives in third grade anymore. “I like him.” “I hate him.” is all that passes for intelligent thought.

        But if you want the country to “come together”, you need to remember the media hated Bush too. And he was the epitome of putting aside the personal. If you have an “R” by your name, the hate flows. Trump just makes it worse.

        • April 19, 2018 at 2:43 pm
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          “Which is my real point: everyone lives in third grade anymore”

          self-reference much? your post had a nasty attitude and a seriously accusatory tone to it, even though you started the thread and nobody had said anything yet. that is very childish in my opinion.

          • April 19, 2018 at 2:53 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            And my point is confirmed by confused! Thanks, third grader!

          • April 19, 2018 at 3:12 pm
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            MARCH 28, 2018 AT 11:17 AM
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            Sounds cool. Really condecending and lame.

          • April 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm
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            you’re welcome – glad i was able to confirm your point by referencing your original post as proof of your argument

          • April 20, 2018 at 8:54 am
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            Why did confused take CC’s comment personally? His post was correct in stating the judgemental approach taken by posters here, instead of discussing the topic. The clear example is down voting on conservatives posts, WITH NO REPLY REBUTTAL offered. These comment boards are intended as a forum for discussions, not count polling of liberal vs. conservative points of view.

          • April 20, 2018 at 9:44 am
            DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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            The down vote on my post above proves its’ validity.

          • April 23, 2018 at 3:35 pm
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            Yogi,
            Censorship of independent ideas and comments keep happening on this forum and the Alex Jones one. But, I’ll keep my independent comments here, focused on the subject of this article. I seriously question if this administration is taking the opioid crisis seriously when their czar, Kellyanne Conway, says this:

            “So I guess my short advice is, as somebody double your age: eat the ice cream, have the french fry, don’t buy the street drug. Believe me, it all works out,” Conway added, eliciting laughs from the audience.

            Who knew, you can fight opioid addiction with sugar and saturated fats. McDonald’s, are you listening?

            This country deserves to have someone in charge with actual expertise in this pandemic. You know, someone who might actually be qualified. And, that person is NOT Mrs. Conway. Anyone with half a brain cell can attest to this fact.

        • April 20, 2018 at 8:18 am
          sal says:
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          when the hate flows, do your part to help end it. Let it stop with you. If something truly makes you that angry, step back from it…especially if it’s something you can’t change. At the end of the day, you realize we have a lot more similarities than differences.

          I truly wish you the best, Craig, as well as everyone else out there. Have a great weekend, everybody!

      • April 20, 2018 at 3:51 pm
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        “The only thing stopping Trump from being a great president is Trump. He has some decent ideas but needs to grow up and stop inventing nicknames for his enemies, get off Twitter, admit when he’s wrong, and actually work on bringing the country TOGETHER as he said he would during his inauguration speech (I believed him when he said it). ”

        In other words you have a problem with priorities and are a zealot. Most your things your are complaining about are manners of speech, tweets, supposedly admitting when one is wrong, which doesn’t matter, and kumbaya. A president cannot unite the nation. Obama tore it apart as well. If people like you are around, they will always find a way to believe the world is divided and complain about it.

        You don’t simply want someone the exception to the norm. This style of talk I guarantee you didn’t do with Clinton or Obama, and yes, it is too much to ask. Stop focusing on character. Stop being a zealot conservative from the 50’s, and be a classic liberal. I cannot believe how much the nation has regressed on this topic. If you want maturity, focus on mature things, and character is not one of them, nor the items you say make him a bad president, in fact, what you said above, if he BROKERS PEACE WITH NORTH KOREA (which could stop a world war) he would still be bad because of TWEETS AND ARROGANCE. Come on man! Self reflect on that attitude. That is the problem. Not Trump.

  • April 19, 2018 at 2:32 pm
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    This is not the solution. The only thing this will do is make street price higher. The crack down has been going on for years, anyone that is on long term painkillers has to go to pain management doctors who regulates their pills. They can’t have a bad month and take 2 too many or they will be short at the end of the month. This is the real life issues going on in America. Let’s not forget that they can sell them on the streets for good money. If seniors or anyone with a disability that is needing to make ends meet, will sell their pills. This is the issue at hand, how do we take care of these people so they are not forced to sell their pills. We regulate the pseudophedrine because it was being used to make meth; it hasn’t stop the meth users it’s only slowed down the process for real people to purchase what they need to get better.
    Most of the people talking about or dealing with this have no clue of what really goes on in the streets with the opioid epidemic. Let’s get help to those people. I know, they don’t want help. That’s another problem.

    • April 19, 2018 at 3:51 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      You may understand that part of this problem was that Opiod manufacturers actively pushed doctors to over prescribe Opiods with guilt trips about the pain of patients.

      What the Trump Administration is proposing is to put pressure on the manufacturers to take responsibility for where their product ends up, instead of just worrying about greater sales. If a manufacturer’s product is ending up being largely misused, they will have their ability to produce Opiods cut in the future.

      For a free market guy like me, I like putting pressure on the manufacturers to take responsibility for how their product is used.

      Is it perfect? Of course not. But why let the perfect be the enemy of a good start.

      You are proposing more money from the government. Well do the math – we are broke. Trump will pile another 1 trillion onto the Debt pile this year. (If you want to start a Charity or a Foundation, have at it.)

      • April 20, 2018 at 10:23 am
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        As a person who has been prescribed an opioid to manage pain for 13 years, this is absolutely not the answer, and “Not the Solution” is 100% correct. Over the past three years I’ve had the treatment my doctor believed was necessary changed numerous time because the govt. changed the guidelines. My Doc., who sees me 6-8 times a year was overruled by a govt. bureaucrat thousands of miles away. Yes, the push by pharma has resulted in the epidemic of suburban addicts & abuse, but what do you think is going to happen when these people can’t get their meds in an affordable, monitored situation? Many will hit the streets to get the monkey off their back and deaths will skyrocket. We have the technology to track abuses. If data is shared between the Federal & local level then it’ll be easy to see where the abuses are. Finally, we should reach out to every individual who have been on opioids long-term to offer discrete options to get off these meds and Big Pharma should be forced to pay the bill. Many of these people would like to stop, but, as moms, dads, professionals, & community leaders, are afraid of the stigma of being a “drug addict” that entering rehab brings .

        • April 20, 2018 at 3:11 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          If we have the technology to track abuses, and you don’t want the Feds. to punish the manufacturers, then what do you propose?

          You talk about people who have been on opiods long-term for legitimate reasons.
          That is one part of the problem, and I am sympathetic to your challenge.

          But the bigger part of the problem is the abuse of these drugs, the OVER-prescribing to people who have lesser problems than yours, the prescribing for long periods of time, long beyond need.

          What is your solution there if you don’t like the Trump proposal?

  • April 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm
    FFA says:
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    If they cant get the goods from a pharma, they will get it from a street dealer. May not be the root of the problem, but it is the end result.

    • April 20, 2018 at 11:30 am
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Many – too many – Opiod abusers move on to heroin. Even if you limit opiods, many
      people will still find heroin coming up from the Cartels in Mexico. It is a very tough problem. But you have to start somewhere.

      If your argument is that you can’t find a perfect solution, then why even try? So, what’s your solution?

      • April 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm
        Agent says:
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        Craig, many stoners also move on to other drugs as well. Meth, Opioids, Cocaine, you name it and they will get into it. They are in a lot of pain from losing.

        • April 20, 2018 at 1:00 pm
          sal says:
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          except neither of you know the extent of what FFA is going through right now with his wife. I guarantee she’s not seeking pain relief because of the results of the election.

          • April 20, 2018 at 2:13 pm
            FFA says:
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            Sal, agent knows. His wife has the same diagnosis as my does.

          • April 20, 2018 at 2:23 pm
            sal says:
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            may both of your wives find relief from their pain.

      • April 20, 2018 at 2:12 pm
        FFA says:
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        Craig, my suggestion is a return to nature.
        In seek of an answer so she can actually sleep through the night, I just had a new bed delivered with adjustable base and built in vibrator.
        Set me back $6,000. I tell ya, I’m trying anything.
        Pot does bring relief many times. Not all the times. Sometimes not at all. When she gets “stoned” its just not worth it. One or two tokes when she feels the pain coming on just to take the edge off seems to be the correct way for now.

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        • April 23, 2018 at 4:44 pm
          Agent says:
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          FFA, I, too have tried about everything, but we aren’t going to try Pot. Have a good pain management doctor prescribing the correct medication and she does not get a 90 day supply of it. Closely monitored and regular checks of the condition seems to work.

          • April 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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            She started with a new pain doc and he is going text book on her. Wants to go the injection route with Steroid Treatment that’s never worked and has only provided temporary relief sometimes only a few days. Over $3K a pop. Then the roid rage is gonna happen again while it washes out of her system. Good thing Ive been through that sooo many time, I know what to expect and a good guess (at best) as to how to deal with it. Fun, eh?
            I used to live a happy life. Now. Not so much. The “d” word was coming out of her again this AM. Follow that up a hour later with the most kind caring person around. Thanks Doc.

  • April 23, 2018 at 9:14 pm
    Agent says:
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    FFA, yes, we have been through the steroid injections, another therapy with needles doing an ablation procedure where nerve endings are burnt to dull the pain. It doesn’t last long either. Had an electronic stimulator put in with wires going up the spine. Helped some, but it eventually failed when the battery went dead in it and had to have it removed. Now, it is taking forever to heal the wound up and she has to go regularly to a wound care doctor to treat that and keep it from being infected. Yes, we have done about everything.

    • April 24, 2018 at 3:24 am
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      Agent,
      We’ve only seen eye-to-eye less than a handful of times over the years, but I want you to know I am sorry for what Mrs. Agent is experiencing and how the ripple effect touches you and those around her. I hope the medical innovators find better solutions for her, Mrs. FFA, and anyone else to follow. Peace to you and your family. Same to you, FFA.

      • April 24, 2018 at 1:11 pm
        sal says:
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        I’m in with the Cap’n. It’s harder to watch someone you love in pain than it is to be in the pain yourself.

    • April 24, 2018 at 5:58 pm
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      She declined to have the nerve ending thing done. Call it a gut feeling, she just wasn’t comfortable doing it. Glad she didn’t based on your experience.
      Nothing can seem to go correctly. Her side of the power controls on the new bed don’t work. They have ordered the new part. Its due in this week, Just dumb luck they set her side up with the faulty brain box.
      Since the Fibro breakthrough last year, I’ve heard nothing new regarding treatment. People jam on big pharma all the time, but they are the ones that should be / are studying the (not so) new info and come up with something.

      • April 25, 2018 at 3:44 am
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        FFA,
        I’m just curious, is that the same base that does the “zero gravity” setting NASA indicated is the position astronauts find most comfortable? I just tried one of those bases and it was amazing. The massage (vibration) setting was nice as well. And for those out there thinking this from the love beds back in the day, no, it isn’t the same as the kind you fed a quarter. It’s actually pretty dang amazing!

  • April 25, 2018 at 7:56 pm
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    “What we’re going to do is give all the junkie flunkies some ice cream and a french fry. We’ll do this over a course of an unspecific time, and we’ll see what happens.”



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