“The explosion at the West Texas fertilizer plant killed 15 people, including 12 firefighters. Scores of others were injured and more than 500 homes were damaged in the blast, with total damaged estimated at more than $100 million.”
To which today’s Republican Party raises a middle finger. Strike that. Raises both middle fingers.
Captain do you realize that explosion is still being investigated as a criminal act? of course you don’t. Probably not a result of the plants owners if it was a criminal act, and could not have been prevented by EPA regulations. The cause of the initial fire that caused the explosion is unknown. The BATF announced in May 2016 that the fire had been deliberately set.
Wouldn’t the potential cause be totally independent of the VOLUME of explosives present? Of course, you can state the SEVERITY might be less, which is a trivial observation. But, with no ‘match’ or ‘spark’, there is no fire in any volume of combustible materials.
That’s right, Gork. They were storing far to much AN. They didn’t care about the guidelines and didn’t have the foresight to think about how close they were to residents, the schools, and other businesses. Some of that tragedy could have been avoided had they followed the guidelines.
Yes, perplexed, I know there is an ongoing criminal investigation. We have followed this story closely as our niche is commercial agribusiness.
if you throw a whole book of lit matches into a fire pit, it will increase the potential of you successfully starting a fire as compared to you throwing a single lit match into the pit.
May 21, 2018 at 1:34 pm
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sorry planet – hit reply under your post but it was meant to be a reply to PolarBeawhatever’s post
May 24, 2018 at 8:54 am
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Neither of you understand the difference between varying volumes of combustible material and a source of ignition. You must believe explosions in space look as they do as depicted in movies and TV, right? Truth is they cannot occur without oxygen and a source of ignition. You must have failed physics / science classes in school.
May 24, 2018 at 10:54 am
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Yogi,
You obviously have no clue about the requirements for AN storage. I’m happy to help educate you and have provided a link for you to peruse. Now, once you reach a critical mass of this stuff, you MUST get the Dept of Homeland Security involved and need to have a certificate as well as letter evidencing you have met the requirements. Unless, of course, you flat out ignore all of that. Then, you just have the potential to blow up your town is all.
Trump wants to roll back anything that has Obama’s name on it no matter how harmful it may be to us. Wish he understood what he is doing but, sadly, he has no clue and his advisors are not giving him good advice or he is not listening to them….probably the later.
Wrong. Your use of the word ‘anything’ is hyperbole and a lie. Hence, it is a ‘hyperbolie’ (sic).
You’re also wrong about Trump understanding what he is doing. He has advisors who ARE experts in the topics of his executive decisions. If you claim they are giving him alternate advice, name those specific advisors and give us a link to their comments. If you state their names, we can all see that they are NOT his advisors. Your side has hyperbole with no substantive facts or data, hence it is purely politically motivated obstructionist actions and discourse.
You are right on point, Alice. He can’t stand President Obama so he has to try and do whatever he can to attempt to tarnish his legacy. Problem is, President Obama’s character and persona cannot be eliminated – something Tramp can’t live up to himself. Problem with Tramp is, he doesn’t have a moral compass like President Obama does. Tramp’s principles are rooted in greed, ego, and self-centeredness. The man behaves like a psychopath. He has no empathy. And, he is allergic to the truth.
It is how The Donald works. You don’t just win, you eliminate and destroy the loser. Go back and look at the video of when Obama was mocking Drumph during the Washington Correspondents dinner; furious. He made up his mind right there and then. Total mobster approach; send a message and wipe everyone out.
Wrong. Obama was wrong for punishing business other than ‘Green Energy’ and a few others in specific industries that support Socialist politicians. Trump is correcting the punishment levied by O, to MAGA.
First sentence in the article you link:
“Officials say a gas leak caused an explosion and brief flash fire . . .”
OMG! What are we going to do without the Green Dictator Obama?
A BRIEF FLASH FIRE!
May 22, 2018 at 8:01 am
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if they “knew a lot more about safety” like Agent said, they would have had a device on their pipes to tell them immediately if there was ever a leak
May 22, 2018 at 8:59 am
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confused,
You are correct – there are many watchdog type detection systems they could have installed. They also shouldn’t have been storing this much AN. Most of the standard markets are walking away from this exposure. It’s absolutely astonishing how much some of these companies flat out ignore safety. I had one prospect that told me their plan for an injured or killed worker is to hire a new one. Needless to say, I chose not to partner with them. In the world of severity, safety should be the top priority.
May 25, 2018 at 2:40 pm
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congrats agent – i’m glad YOU went to court and helped the judge reach their verdict. yup, YOU got it done! Great job!!
“The explosion at the West Texas fertilizer plant killed 15 people, including 12 firefighters. Scores of others were injured and more than 500 homes were damaged in the blast, with total damaged estimated at more than $100 million.”
To which today’s Republican Party raises a middle finger. Strike that. Raises both middle fingers.
Captain do you realize that explosion is still being investigated as a criminal act? of course you don’t. Probably not a result of the plants owners if it was a criminal act, and could not have been prevented by EPA regulations. The cause of the initial fire that caused the explosion is unknown. The BATF announced in May 2016 that the fire had been deliberately set.
But wasn’t the real issue a gigantic amount of the explosive chemical(s) stored there, far in excess of the guidelines would permit?
Wouldn’t the potential cause be totally independent of the VOLUME of explosives present? Of course, you can state the SEVERITY might be less, which is a trivial observation. But, with no ‘match’ or ‘spark’, there is no fire in any volume of combustible materials.
That’s right, Gork. They were storing far to much AN. They didn’t care about the guidelines and didn’t have the foresight to think about how close they were to residents, the schools, and other businesses. Some of that tragedy could have been avoided had they followed the guidelines.
Yes, perplexed, I know there is an ongoing criminal investigation. We have followed this story closely as our niche is commercial agribusiness.
if you throw a whole book of lit matches into a fire pit, it will increase the potential of you successfully starting a fire as compared to you throwing a single lit match into the pit.
sorry planet – hit reply under your post but it was meant to be a reply to PolarBeawhatever’s post
Neither of you understand the difference between varying volumes of combustible material and a source of ignition. You must believe explosions in space look as they do as depicted in movies and TV, right? Truth is they cannot occur without oxygen and a source of ignition. You must have failed physics / science classes in school.
Yogi,
You obviously have no clue about the requirements for AN storage. I’m happy to help educate you and have provided a link for you to peruse. Now, once you reach a critical mass of this stuff, you MUST get the Dept of Homeland Security involved and need to have a certificate as well as letter evidencing you have met the requirements. Unless, of course, you flat out ignore all of that. Then, you just have the potential to blow up your town is all.
https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-06/documents/an_advisory_6-5-15.pdf
For you, Yogi.
Trump wants to roll back anything that has Obama’s name on it no matter how harmful it may be to us. Wish he understood what he is doing but, sadly, he has no clue and his advisors are not giving him good advice or he is not listening to them….probably the later.
Wrong. Your use of the word ‘anything’ is hyperbole and a lie. Hence, it is a ‘hyperbolie’ (sic).
You’re also wrong about Trump understanding what he is doing. He has advisors who ARE experts in the topics of his executive decisions. If you claim they are giving him alternate advice, name those specific advisors and give us a link to their comments. If you state their names, we can all see that they are NOT his advisors. Your side has hyperbole with no substantive facts or data, hence it is purely politically motivated obstructionist actions and discourse.
You are right on point, Alice. He can’t stand President Obama so he has to try and do whatever he can to attempt to tarnish his legacy. Problem is, President Obama’s character and persona cannot be eliminated – something Tramp can’t live up to himself. Problem with Tramp is, he doesn’t have a moral compass like President Obama does. Tramp’s principles are rooted in greed, ego, and self-centeredness. The man behaves like a psychopath. He has no empathy. And, he is allergic to the truth.
Who is this President Obama you mention?
I can’ recall a single thing that is still in existence that was done by a person with that name.
It is how The Donald works. You don’t just win, you eliminate and destroy the loser. Go back and look at the video of when Obama was mocking Drumph during the Washington Correspondents dinner; furious. He made up his mind right there and then. Total mobster approach; send a message and wipe everyone out.
Wrong. Obama was wrong for punishing business other than ‘Green Energy’ and a few others in specific industries that support Socialist politicians. Trump is correcting the punishment levied by O, to MAGA.
‘Total mobster approach’? Like ‘hey; we won’ or ‘elections have consequences’ or ‘I have a pen and a phone’?
Polar, these industries have been around for quite a while. They know a lot more about safety than a bunch of lefty politicians and bureaucrats.
yeah man, that’s why you never hear of any preventable issues in TX! https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southcentral/2018/05/21/489945.htm
First sentence in the article you link:
“Officials say a gas leak caused an explosion and brief flash fire . . .”
OMG! What are we going to do without the Green Dictator Obama?
A BRIEF FLASH FIRE!
if they “knew a lot more about safety” like Agent said, they would have had a device on their pipes to tell them immediately if there was ever a leak
confused,
You are correct – there are many watchdog type detection systems they could have installed. They also shouldn’t have been storing this much AN. Most of the standard markets are walking away from this exposure. It’s absolutely astonishing how much some of these companies flat out ignore safety. I had one prospect that told me their plan for an injured or killed worker is to hire a new one. Needless to say, I chose not to partner with them. In the world of severity, safety should be the top priority.
congrats agent – i’m glad YOU went to court and helped the judge reach their verdict. yup, YOU got it done! Great job!!