Trump ‘Probably’ Will Back Lifting Federal Ban on Marijuana

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  • June 13, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    sal says:
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    Hmmmm…the economy is doing pretty well, we’re making strides at denuclearizing North Korea, and now he might actually lift the federal ban on marijuana (which is most certainly, definitely NOT HARMLESS)? I can’t stand Trump and think he’s a despicable person, but if he keeps this up I might actually have to consider voting for him in 2020.

    • June 13, 2018 at 1:17 pm
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      • June 13, 2018 at 1:22 pm
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        Craig- sal probably can’t remember the question and has the munchies. Invest in PIZZA if this goes thru.

        • June 13, 2018 at 1:32 pm
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          You got me, Jack…I’m a complete stoner, but by your logic, so must Trump be, right?

          • June 13, 2018 at 1:39 pm
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          • June 13, 2018 at 1:42 pm
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            Yeah, that’s it, Jack. how’d he get yours the first time?

            I’m honestly surprised they still let you post on here, what with your racist, homophobic and obscene posting history.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:24 pm
            Jack says:
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            He got my vote because you have to be an idiot to vote democrat these days.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:47 pm
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            Jack,
            Your biased posts make you out to be an idiot. You are not posting substance and just very biased and racist rhetoric frequently on this site. Are you a joke account or do you have actual substance to provide on the subject besides trying to downplay someone as a person because you do not agree with them and the president does on this? If he is just trying to buy votes then he did for you as well in the last one. No reason to be hurt by your own logic.

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm
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            helping out- Denial about the science and the effects of smoking cigs and or pot is idiotic. I smoked pot, a lot of pot, and it led to harder drugs at the time. I no longer smoke anything, but you keep drinking the kool-aid.

            Trump got my vote for one reason- it was anti Killary. He didn’t have to buy my vote when a clinton is on the ticket.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:05 pm
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            Jack,
            Before attacking what I am promoting maybe you should comprehend what I am arguing for. I do believe it should be legal medicinally first federally and taken away from a schedule one drug. This would allow actual studies with statistical significance to prove more effects either negative or positive. It has been already ackowledged that some who smoke pot do transfer to harder drugs, but the majority do not. Just because there is a correlation does not prove causation. A stronger correlation is alcohol. (No one was talking about cigs, so I have no idea why you brought it up besides to attempt to make me out to be unaware of the dangers of cigs which is more common knowledge than alcohol). There were other options as well. Through your knowledge he bought your vote through his policies because he was aiming to get more votes. Every politician does this to their own volition. Now if you would like to continue please have an actual rebuttal or topic to discuss that is not biased. Evidence helps to support theories if you want to give that a try.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:38 pm
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            Helping out- Who do you think is going to smoke more pot if it’s legal?
            Specifically – what demographic ?
            We all know who it is, but can’t say it for fear of being called a racist. Well except for me anyway. Blacks kids.
            Now given that answer- how do you see their decision to smoke more pot beneficial to them? I live in the most affluent area in SC. Look at what race is failing school in the most affluent schools in the state and or country. Tell me how this helps them? Please enlighten me.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:47 pm
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            Jack,
            I know what you are referring to, but I believe there will be an increase in most races if we legalize it for recreational use. While yes currently in the United States there is a higher percentage of African Americans who smoke cannabis, there is a higher percentage of Caucasians who use cocaine. I was talking more about legalizing it medicinally first and taking it off of the schedule so that more research can be done into the subject to see the effects (good and bad). If it was medicinally it is very hard to say what demographic would use cannabis more. It depends on the guidelines on what qualifies for medicinal use. If they go wider first and then narrow this down I believe
            For your last point if you are talking about the educational difference, look at the areas people are living and the overall education difference. It is sad, but in the quality of schooling can differ by many different areas and different socioeconomic status. You are again pointing to a correlation and not a causation.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm
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            I again want to point out with Medicinal use I refer to CBD and with Recreational Use I refer to the more common form of illegal cannabis of THC. The two have different affects since one is hallucinogenic and the other is not. Again the effects of the THC part need to be studies further, but it does have more signs of positive benefits as well as some negatives that all need to be explored further with actual statistically significant figures that both sides can agree on. Right now that is lacking due to the hardships of studying the federally illegal substance.

          • June 13, 2018 at 5:14 pm
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            helping out- let me help you out. The black kids in my area sit in the same class room as the white kids, hear the same teacher, get the same books to take home. They go to the best schools in the state. It ain’t the “quality of schooling can differ by many different areas and different socioeconomic status. You are again pointing to a correlation and not a causation.” ITS THE KIDS AND PARENTS. Now legalize pot and watch it get worse. It’s simply a way to keep them on the plantation folks. Don’t sit there and tell me it won’t hurt the African American population.

            And the crap about medical reasons. LMAO Remember when abortion was for “medical reasons”. You guys fall for this every time.

          • June 13, 2018 at 5:16 pm
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            helping out- Whites use more cocaine because they can afford it. I used it to, when others bought it. I was one of those poor college kids.

          • June 13, 2018 at 5:23 pm
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            If you do not know what socioeconomic status is and how some parents especially those who do not experience white privilege and how people in the minority (African Americans, Hispanics, etc) use more of their disposable income to put their children in the same classrooms with the same books, the issue is also with the extra help that many of those people receive. I understand this because I am fortunate enough to have the privilege even though I am not white I only appear that way. Due to this I see the fact that it is still prevalent today and you do not experience or see the other side as much as you would like to admit you understand them. You are only helping me to understand that you are racist and I am finished with this conversation because you are again uneducated on this subject and it is showing.

          • June 14, 2018 at 7:23 am
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            My guess is that he is fishing for stoner votes, to stem the Blue Wave that was projected by the Fake News media. Once the mid-terms are over, he’ll reverse his position or drop the issue by not commenting on it.

            More important, Congress needs to initiate this change, and it won’t as long as Republicans are in control.

            As Millenials like to say “You’ve been pwned”. Or, in this case, you’ve been ‘Trumpwned’.

          • June 14, 2018 at 10:02 am
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            Yogi / Agent–

            what if he DOESN’T change his mind and decides to back lifting the federal ban on marijuana? by your definition, doesn’t that make him a “stoner”? Will you then withdraw your support for him, since you will no longer agree with him 100%, which therefore means he’s not a true conservative?

            What about Jeff Sessions? Yogi, you said that he was going to crack down on marijuana…doesn’t appear that’s happening. I’m starting to think that you don’t have all the insider knowledge that you’ve claimed.

      • June 13, 2018 at 1:30 pm
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        Craig–

        Don’t tell me that…tell Trump. He’s the one that’s probably going to lift the federal ban on it. Ask HIM why.

        I’ve given you my opinion of marijuana legalization in the past so I’m not going to reiterate it.

        • June 13, 2018 at 1:48 pm
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          Trump is simply recognizing the futility of prosecuting marijuana crimes on Federal statutes when lefties have approved pot sales in 3 states, followed by cartels and other black market operators using those 3 states for safe growing and distribution to the other 47 states.

          The horse is out of the barn and lefties like it that way. (Not that they ever take responsibility for the negative consequences of their actions . . .)

          • June 13, 2018 at 1:56 pm
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            Craig–Ultimately I don’t know that it should be legal either, at least not recreationally (medicinally, I have no problem with it, especially if it can help alleviate the vicious side effects of chemo or help ease pain that can’t be helped with anything but opioids). I don’t want my kids doing it, that’s for sure.

            Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what you or I think…the government will do what it wants..

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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            craig cornell says: “Trump is simply recognizing the futility of prosecuting marijuana crimes on Federal statutes…”

            Exactly!

      • June 13, 2018 at 2:11 pm
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        Who owns your body? You or the govt? If it’s you, then harming yourself via drugs should be up to you, not a govt babysitter. Here’s where the control types point to the healthcare costs and impact on others. Get govt out of healthcare–problem solved. Freedom always has an impact. Freedom of speech like these comments can hurt others and cause kids to commit suicide due to cyber-bullying. Do we ban comments? Nope.

        • June 13, 2018 at 2:20 pm
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          Wayne- my comments get removed off here all the time, so i guess you are new? Or just wrong? Wrong- the left bans comments all the time.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:39 pm
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            Jack–

            The only comments of yours that were deleted were the ones that were blatantly racist, homophobic, or obscene. That’s not how a real conservative talks.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:42 pm
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            Sal- wrong again idiot

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:49 pm
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            Jack,
            Sal is telling the truth, your rebuttal shows you have no substance to contribute. No reason to call them an idiot when your rhetoric frequently is what sal has pointed out above you.

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:24 pm
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            Helping out-

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            I have made several reasonable, respectable, truthful comments that were deleted. Know why? They criticized Obama. (Cardinal sin.)

            P.S. Legalizing marijuana hurts kids. The statistics are overwhelming. Kids have no idea of the downsides of smoking pot. Loss of IQ. Addiction. Deaths in car accidents. Mental Illness. It is a long list. And survey after survey shows that kids think pot is safe, natural, a plant, medicine, been around forever . . . all the BS the lefties put out to rationalize legalization.

            The fact his gets deleted as well proves your an idiot.

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:36 pm
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            Jack–

            “YOU’RE”, not “your.” How much pot did you smoke, man???

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:53 pm
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            sal- I’m sure you have spelled every word you have ever typed correctly. You really are an idiot if thats all you’ve got…..i left the ‘ out of that’s for you.

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:57 pm
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            I highly disagree jack. I do not know why his comment was deleted, but you calling me an idiot for his post being removed only proves you should not be on this site. It is childish to call me stupid when I did not thing but agree it can harm kids who use recreational cannabis. Please have an actual rebuttal on the subject instead of name calling, this is an adult site.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:00 pm
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            Sal- I smoked like i was on fire and drank like i was trying to put it out.

            Which is exactly why I say it’s a bad idea to legalize it.

            I bet a lot of people that never smoked it much think it’s no big deal, say it’s not a gate way, it is….but not like you think. You legalize it and then the next drug gets legalized. We all end up paying for the fools that smoke it. It’s just like insurance, you pay for the fools, not your own good behavior.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:02 pm
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            helping out- what are you the thought police?

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:13 pm
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            Jack–

            I humbly apologize for mocking both your innocent typo and for your use of marijuana in the past. In my quest for a cheap laugh, I made the wrong decision and shouldn’t have posted it.

            I do respect your opinion of the dangers of marijuana due to your personal experience of it.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:16 pm
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            It is more about being on this site for meaningful discussion or just being a troll. You do not engage in meaningful conversations. I do not agree with Craig frequently, but I respect him more than you because he will actually debate the subjects at hand instead of resorting to what you are doing and just saying someone is an idiot.Not a thought police, just someone who is on here to actually discuss issues at hand.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:46 pm
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            Sal- sticks and stones may …..blah..blah

            No worries, never been one to be “offended”.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:47 pm
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            helping out- your boss know you spend so much time doing this instead of being productive? What do you do for a living?

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:57 pm
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            Why thank you for asking an unimportant question that does not really need to be asked on here, but yes my boss does know that I monitor this site frequently and post on here. I do work for an insurance company and I have been following the trends within this industry through research on each side. I again do not see why this is relevant and why I will not ask you since I was attempting to have a meaningful discussion and you seem to not want that only for those to accept you uneducated opinion on the subject from personal opinion that does not prove anything besides you abused the substance and had a bad experience. I am sorry but you alone not statistically significant .

        • June 13, 2018 at 2:32 pm
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          I have made several reasonable, respectable, truthful comments that were deleted. Know why? They criticized Obama. (Cardinal sin.)

          P.S. Legalizing marijuana hurts kids. The statistics are overwhelming. Kids have no idea of the downsides of smoking pot. Loss of IQ. Addiction. Deaths in car accidents. Mental Illness. It is a long list. And survey after survey shows that kids think pot is safe, natural, a plant, medicine, been around forever . . . all the BS the lefties put out to rationalize legalization.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:51 pm
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            Please show the statistics. If it is regulated more federally there can be more in place to help curb what you are saying. The issue is your point is not substantiated and the studies you use are not statistically significant frequently meaning they are not valid to use. If you ever have one that does show significance I would love to see it but we have debated about them frequently. I will say children should not use recreational cannabis, but some need the medicinal portion that is not psychoactive or better known as CBD.

          • June 13, 2018 at 3:16 pm
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            “And survey after survey shows that kids think pot is safe, natural, a plant, medicine, been around forever…”

            Let’s break it down:
            Safe? Debatable. Relatively safe for most people 25 years or older.
            Natural? Yes.
            A plant? Yes.
            Medicine? Yes.
            Been around forever? Yes.

            Looks like at least 80% of the “BS the lefties put out” is actually true?

        • June 13, 2018 at 2:36 pm
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          Where have you been Wayne? Andrew regularly bans Conservative comments all the time while letting Leftists comments stay. This comment will probably not be up for long.

          • June 13, 2018 at 2:45 pm
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            Your comments only get banned when you are outwardly racist, homophobic, islamophobic, insulting or bullying others, or factually inaccurate (such as when you claim Orlando is in Broward county). My guess is it’s not your politics that gets you deleted, it’s your lack of civility towards others.

          • June 13, 2018 at 5:24 pm
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            Agent,
            Maybe your opinions should be elsewhere because you do display all of what Sal pointed out. Sal contributes and will actually debate on here while you attempt to mislead others and put false information on this site.

        • June 14, 2018 at 11:28 am
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          I agree, Wayne. Adults should have the right to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies. I choose not to smoke anything, but most evenings I will have a beer or a glass of wine, or even two! The horror! It may or may not be good for my health, but that’s a risk that I have chosen for myself, as an adult.

          Whether kids will get weed if it is legal for adults is a 100 percent red herring. There were plenty of kids who got illegal weed at my high school, and it’s no different a generation later at my kids’ high school. I don’t support legalization for high school age but it is completely disingenuous to pretend that there is none now, and there will suddenly be weed everywhere in the schools if legal for adults.

          • June 15, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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            Perplexed, a glass of wine per day has proven to be beneficial to one’s health. It is the drunks that have to drink a whole bottle who have the problems.

      • June 13, 2018 at 2:34 pm
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        • June 13, 2018 at 2:58 pm
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          But by all means, go have a few drinks after work, get in your car and drive home….no problems there.

          No problems with people driving with multiple DUIs on their record.

          You wouldn’t know a fact, Agent, if it punched you in your face.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:13 pm
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            How about this for a fact Nebraskan?

            The inherit vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherit virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
            Winston Churchill I would say he was one of the most brilliant minds ever on the world stage.

          • June 13, 2018 at 4:22 pm
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            Mike,
            Come on you are better than this to just say the mush brained stoners. Can I say the brain dead alcoholics are out here today? No because that would be an unsubstantiated claim that has no merits here. Please have an actual response. I agree the Nebraskan’s last sentence was harsh, but before that what he mentioned is a valid point. What problem do you have with what he pointed out before that?

          • June 14, 2018 at 10:36 am
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            Agent,

            Winston Churchill smoked cigars, regularly, and drank in excess, yet you look up to him but call anyone that touches marijuana, a stoner. You state that Churchill was “one of the most brilliant minds ever…” but how can someone have a brilliant mind while being in a constant state of drunkenness?

            Also, aren’t cigars and alcohol harmful? Should they be banned?

            Disclosure: I like Churchill, but I find your inconsistencies curious.

    • June 13, 2018 at 2:13 pm
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      Trump keeps up everything else hes doing and he may go down as the best president in US history..He thrives on hate ..The more the leftist Socialist try to mess with him the stronger he gets..

    • June 13, 2018 at 2:39 pm
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      Finally, a decent health plan!

    • June 13, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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      You can’t win them all Craig. Why didn’t you just take this one home to the bank. It’s admirable that Sal said it at all.

      It’s actually pretty courageous given the political climate, and even if you think he’s wrong on pot, I would say the issues he found important in his post, are far more important, and I think if you calmed down you would agree.

      These are the right reasons to consider voting for someone.

      I’ve been practically begging people consider the right reasons, rather than the character, or pot, or abortion, or gay issues, or social issues (which is not my main voting are on any of these)

      Sal, I am giving you one of my only thumbs up. I mentioned in the past I literally never give down votes, and I cannot even remember the last upvote I gave, but your post here is a ground breaking excellent post, and it has the right logic behind it.

      It’s not that you want to vote Trump, it’s that you out loud directed the conflict, and said why. Good post.

    • June 13, 2018 at 6:23 pm
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      I’m not sure if it just failed to post or what, but it isn’t showing. I’ll re do this:

      Craig, take this one home to the bank, what are you doing? He just said the right reasons to vote for Trump, and out loud said that he was going to go against his feelings on Trump being a bad person. This is a good way of saying it, the conflict shown out loud is excellent, the logic is excellent.

      Pot is not at the top of my list. The last time I intervened it was simply because people were being illogical on pot. I have not actually expressed my opinion fully on it.

      It’s pretty clear that social issues, pot, gay marriage, and abortion should be low block voting issues, and the issues Sal just mentioned are by no means low block, and are the right reasons to consider voting for someone.

      Sal I just upvoted your post. Ask anyone here, I rarely ever do it, I cannot remember the last time I did, and I never down vote. This is an excellent post.

      • June 13, 2018 at 7:31 pm
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        Yes, he is expressing some support for Trump, but pot is a silly reason to do so.

        Trump isn’t doing it to support pot; he is taking legal resources away from a lost cause.

        Marijuana is at the top of my list for a lot of reasons, but number one, I think it represents the rampant dishonesty of the left perfectly. It will have a net negative impact on society without any doubt, especially on minorities and the poor, and it is a clear example of how the left really cares nothing for the people they say they care about (let alone kids who smoke pot).

        And it is a crazy reason to support Trump.

        • June 14, 2018 at 3:02 pm
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          “Yes, he is expressing some support for Trump, but pot is a silly reason to do so.”

          That was only one reason. He also listed the economy and North Korea, and seemed to put a lot of emphasis on North Korea.

          “Trump isn’t doing it to support pot; he is taking legal resources away from a lost cause.”

          I believe it also has to do with he doesn’t want the federal government in it, and he’s ok with states handling it.

          “Marijuana is at the top of my list for a lot of reasons, but number one, I think it represents the rampant dishonesty of the left perfectly.”

          What? The top reason is that the left is dishonest in general, not that it’s bad itself? Craig…I cannot support that. I also don’t like pot, I also don’t like that the left makes it appear safe to the youth, but those stand alone. I can’t just take that and apply it to a category of “left dishonesty” and then disregard any potential left issue. I like to think that I question anything I hear as being potentially dishonest, no matter the source or history. This isn’t you that you’re showing right now, maybe you’re just fed up with the left right now like I am.

          “It will have a net negative impact on society without any doubt, especially on minorities and the poor, and it is a clear example of how the left really cares nothing for the people they say they care about (let alone kids who smoke pot).
          And it is a crazy reason to support Trump.”

          Yes, I agree with the majority of this, and it would be a crazy reason to support Trump, on it’s own.

        • June 15, 2018 at 12:25 pm
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          Craig, any of these Progressives that think they know what our great President will do on pot is asking for more disappointment.

      • June 14, 2018 at 8:02 am
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        bob–

        Thank you. Like I’ve said, I don’t like Trump as a person, not one bit. But, I can’t argue with the success of the economy and the handling of the North Korean situation, as well as a sensible approach toward the fight against marijuana (in my opinion, it should be up to the states as to how much they want to spend fighting it, much like different states have different regulations with alcohol. Note: I haven’t smoked pot in over 20 years and rarely drink). If he keeps this up, I will have to at least consider voting for him in 2020, even if it means I have to hold my nose to do so. We have 2 more years, so we’ll see what happens.

        • June 14, 2018 at 1:49 pm
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          Your second reply was also good. I agree with the why on the marijuana. Leave it to the states.

          The other conservatives here made a crucial error when they didn’t even ask why you were ok with a federal marijuana ban removed, and, it seems in the name of being against marijuana went against one of the principles true conservatives stand for: Federal regulation (in general) should not be given over state regulation when states can handle it.

          • June 14, 2018 at 1:57 pm
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            thank you, sir. I will NEVER claim to have all the answers. My biggest problem is that I can almost always see BOTH sides of every story. It’s tough for me to choose sometimes, though not always.

            As I’ve said before, I hate the “left vs right”, or “us vs them” games that people love to play, and I’ll also admit that I get sucked into it sometimes, Each issue and circumstance is DIFFERENT, just like each person.

            At the end of the day, I’m just an average guy lucky enough to have a decent job, an amazing family, and fair health. I personally couldn’t ask for anything more in life. If I’m wrong or deliberately hurt someone, I’m going to apologize for it. I am sensitive to bullying, because I got a ton of it as a kid, so yeah, I’ll always stick up for the little guy, but I harbor no real ill will toward anyone just because we happen to disagree on things (not even Agent, though the guy hates my guts).

            Best of luck to you, and to everyone else.

          • June 14, 2018 at 3:29 pm
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            “Rosenblatt took part in it, and is now backtracking.”

            Yeah … umm .. WHAT?!? When or how have I backtracked? I haven’t changed how I post, to whom I reply, what my beliefs are nor how I argue. What proof do you have for calling me out for backtracking (even if your inference is that it’s a positive thing)?

            I still call people out for making false statements that are easily provable (Agent). I still call people out for posting stats pulled out of thin air they can’t back up with a source (Craig). I still call people out for posting hypocritical comments (Agent & Yogi).

            Not sure why you think I’m backtracking and why you think you can take credit for it. Nothing has changed over here, buddy.

            But thanks — I always enjoy having to defend myself when I haven’t even said anything in the conversation (clearly that’s sarcasm).

          • June 14, 2018 at 4:31 pm
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            You should know by now Rosenblatt, mostly you included, I am not reading your replies to me.

            Until I see much more of “I was wrong” and “I’m sorry” I’m only here to recant your nonsense for others.

            I don’t do social justice warrior battles. You might be less of that than Ron, but you’re certainly on board with him, and rarely condemn what he does.

            You, confused, Ron, are not people I’m here to talk to.

          • June 14, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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            I’m sorry.

            I was wrong.

            I now hope you read the rest of this reply.

            Pro-tip: If you’re going to reply saying you’re not going to read my replies to you, DON’T DRAG ME INTO A CONVERSATIONS I’M NOT EVEN PARTICIPATING IN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

          • June 14, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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            “I’m sorry.
            I was wrong.
            I now hope you read the rest of this reply.
            Pro-tip: If you’re going to reply saying you’re not going to read my replies to you, DON’T DRAG ME INTO A CONVERSATIONS I’M NOT EVEN PARTICIPATING IN IN THE FIRST PLACE.”

            You got lucky that I saw this.

            In reply to your last comment: No.

            You have actively engaged in what I have said you have.

            You have not kept the left here in check like you do with Agent in regards to any issues, like say climate change, economic policy, healthcare, immigration, or other factors.

            Do you want to prove me wrong? Reference falsehood Ron has said, or could be debated that it is simply incorrect, regarding any of the above issues. Tell me a point Agent has made on them that you think had merit.

            Or do you think he spouts all nonsense, and do you support Ron each time he says that?

            I’ll go ahead and go first:

            I think Agent is wrong on the amount of illegal immigrants voting, or at least is using poor evidence of it.

            I think Craig is incorrect regarding federally handling pot. I think most conservatives agree with that though.

            At one point I agreed with UW regarding opioid issues, though he then refused to agree with me after that point, and it was odd, and technically my disagreeing with Craig doubled up as agreeing with Sal on the federal issue.

    • June 13, 2018 at 6:24 pm
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      Go figure! The post shows up just after I finish the second one!

  • June 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5642917/Nine-ten-teens-drug-clinics-treated-marijuhttp://publichealth.lacounty.gov/sapc/MDU/MDBrief/MarijuanaBriefFinal.pdf

    http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/16/casual-marijuana-use-may-damage-your-brain/?hpt=hp_bn13

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783111/The-terrible-truth-cannabis-Expert-s-devastating-20-year-study-finally-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.html

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/health/marijuana-weed-verbal-memory/index.html?eref=rss_health
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    Recent research is even more specific concerning the damage. For instance, Xinyu Wang published on Dec. 15, 2004 in Biological Psychiatry results from examination of fetal brains. It noted, “Marijuana is the illicit drug most used by pregnant women, and behavioral and cognitive impairments have been documented in cannabis-exposed offspring.”

    Their results showed “specific alterations of gene expression in distinct neuronal populations of the fetal brain as a consequence of maternal cannabis use.” The reduction was correlated with the amount of maternal marijuana intake during pregnancy, and particularly affected male fetuses.

    The THC “readily crosses the placenta and can thus affect the fetus,” while “longitudinal human studies have shown motor, social, and cognitive disturbances in offspring who were exposed to cannabis prenatally.” Finally, “school children exposed in utero to marijuana were also weak in planning, integration and judgment skills.”

    http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/sapc/MDU/MDBrief/MarijuanaBriefFinal.pdf

  • June 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm
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    Example: I tried to link several research studies establishing the dangers of marijuana from reputable scientific organizations. And what do you know? Deleted by I.J.

    • June 13, 2018 at 4:58 pm
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      Are you sure it was deleted? When you post a comment with multiple links, there is definitely a delay between hitting submit and seeing the post (like what happened to me over here: https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2018/06/06/491414.htm?comments#comment-4842854

      Suggestion moving forward: split up the URL so it doesn’t become a link … like ht tps://www.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2018/06/06/491414.htm?comments#comment-4842854

  • June 14, 2018 at 12:17 am
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    Craig…u weren’t deleted. Links came through. So various studies show that marijuana harms the adolescent brain and usage should be restricted to adults. But how, then, is this different from alcohol which also causes changes in teens and certainly known to cause fetal alcohol syndrome please…I am not trying to be flip…I am asking for legitimate info/opinions.

    • June 14, 2018 at 12:12 pm
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      Knowledge. Public Knowledge. The dangers of alcohol are well-known in every culture going back thousands of years.

      If you look at the Los Angeles County Department of Health report on marijuana, young people have a much greater believe that marijuana is safe than young people did 10 years ago.

      All this in a time when the science is becoming more and more clear by the day: pot has many, many damaging results.

      And the media – ie. the Left – refuse to publicize the dangers. The Agenda (as usual). Congratulations to the Left for damaging people by hiding the full truth. (Hit me Down Voters! Go! I spoke the truth!)

      • June 14, 2018 at 12:49 pm
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        The last statement is false. We on the left (and those who support legalization in general) agree that there are dangers and they need to be researched more. The issues with your studies again are the statistical significance which deals with overall population size and the bias within the studies. I agree that the overall effects need to be studied more but that also requires taking it off the schedule one drug list so more people can do unbiased research. Most of your studies revolve around the idea that this hurts the youth. Well no duh, they have developing brains and should not even have coffee. We are attempting to focus on adults. Do children not get their hands on alcohol? Do they still not get cannabis it right now and before (decades). Again we are not saying it is harmless, there are dangers and they need to be explored further. The point we are making would be that along with the negatives, there is currently more positives that are more economical for the majority of adults in today’s society. Especially medicinal uses for cannabis that has even less negatives than the recreational form.

        • June 14, 2018 at 2:56 pm
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          While you are “researching the dangers”, black children are being born with brain damage, according to the known science.

          Proud of that, are you? Ever wonder why MSNBC doesn’t do an hour or so to warn pregnant black women NOT to smoke pot?

          Yeah. No problem. Let’s just wait for more research . . . compassion . . . blah, blah.

          • June 14, 2018 at 3:11 pm
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            If you are going to push false narratives then yes I have a problem with your points. I stated here that I am for medicinal purposes first and expanding the research to recreational use as well. Are you proud that every race has children born with fetal alcohol syndrome? No? Then why do you believe drinking is okay to be legal? It hurts our children more than cannabis. Know that no reasonable person wants that which is the same with children being born wit brain damage similar to that syndrome. You just do not know how to depict real unbiased studies from the misleading statistically insignificant ones yet. You have to dig into the research instead of reading the summary of the studies.

      • June 14, 2018 at 12:52 pm
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        but if the dangers of alcohol are known, and there’s not a person here or elsewhere who wouldn’t agree that alcohol is dangerous, can be addictive, harms brain cells (both young and old), severely impairs driving, etc, then why is it legal? It’s technically illegal for anyone under 21 to drink, but underage kids still find a way to do it.

        It’s not a question of “lefties vs righties” here…while many on the left do support legalized or decimininalized marijuana, there are still plenty on the right who support it as well (see John Boehner).

        • June 14, 2018 at 1:23 pm
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          Oh, please Sal. Try to be honest.

          Marijuana legalization is roaring ahead in left-leaning states; everyone knows this.
          CNN promotes 15 stories on the glory of marijuana to every story about the dangers.

          • June 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm
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            Please don’t accuse me of being dishonest, Craig. I’ve been nothing but civil to you. I said that MANY on the left, but also plenty on the right support the legalization or decriminalization. Your argument is that it’s a TOTAL leftist issue, when in actuality there are people on the right and in the center who also support it. It doesn’t mean that everyone thinks it’s a GOOD thing, or that it’s not harmful.

            Now please: answer my question: Why should alcohol be legal and marijuana not? Literally every argument you’ve made about marijuana can be made about alcohol. Neither of them are GOOD for you, yet alcohol causes thousands upon thousands of deaths every year, not to mention fetal alcohol syndrome. So why is it legal?

            Please–if you want to have a discussion, at least be civil. I’ve already told you, I’m not into the “left vs right” or “us vs them” games; I look at each issue individually. I’ve shown you respect, please do the same back.

          • June 14, 2018 at 3:08 pm
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            Jack—

            REALLY? Come on, man…you know that’s going to be deleted, right?

            Agent / Craig / anyone else– I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that Jack’s post does NOT represent the “conservative voice.” If you think it does, be ashamed.

          • June 14, 2018 at 3:13 pm
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            Jack,
            Were you not just complaining that we pointed out how racist your points have been and here we are again with your very racist and uneducated opinion. I say uneducated because the percentage of Caucasian who use cannabis is slightly less than African Americans. If you want to post here that’s fine, but we will point out the racist rhetoric you continue to spew.

          • June 14, 2018 at 4:42 pm
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            “Craig- I say make it legal for blacks, homosexuals and liberals, mexicans and muslims. Let them have it.
            We can use them as guinea pigs.”

            I’m pretty sure this isn’t Jack. There is simply no way he would say this.

            Someone is probably trying to make conservatives look bad.

          • June 14, 2018 at 5:04 pm
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            I hope so, bob…that’s why i said that I know his views do NOT represent those of conservatives. It’s honestly sick and should be condemned by people on both sides.

          • June 14, 2018 at 5:54 pm
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            Well, there is one other option.

            Jack and Craig have both been noting that they have been deleted for saying things anti Obama and otherwise completely reasonable.

            I tested this theory in the past, by saying things on a public website which fit stereotypes of what conservatives say. In other words: I said something completely racist. I’ve tested it numerous times. I have yet to see any deleted. My point here is: Jack my be testing the waters to prove a point.

            Do you notice it isn’t deleted yet, but my pointing out the left issues here, without swearing or racism were deleted?

            That actually does sound like either Craig or Jack. They may be proving a point.

          • June 14, 2018 at 7:43 pm
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            Posts that veer from the topic of the article will be deleted. Many have gone way off topic.

          • June 14, 2018 at 5:56 pm
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            In other words: They may be proving that there is a motive in the posts deleted and allowed to stay on IJ.

            Perhaps Craig or Jack is saying they want conservatives to look like fools and racist, and for anyone who makes liberals look terrible or shames them, to be removed?

            I’m not saying this is true, but perhaps this is what Craig or Jack thinks. Though I have seen sites where this isn’t a question, it’s definitely true. Namely, ABC or Disney news owned sites.

          • June 14, 2018 at 8:12 pm
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            The motive is simply to keep comments on topic and civil. It’s not a perfect or complete process. We do not have the time to monitor every minute and I have better things to do than read them all and surely miss many. As I have said before, just because one person travels down a side alley does not mean you have to follow. It would help if y’all tried to bring the discussion back to the topic. This is not a forum for personal political confessions or diatribes. So if your comment falls along these lines, chances are good it will be deleted. I suspect one of the reasons we are all drawn to the insurance industry is because insurance is so intrinsic to our economic, social and, yes, political lives. Please share your insurance perspectives, insights, experiences and opinions. My hunch is you’ll discover y’all agree more than you disagree. Imagine how great that will feel. Thanks.

          • June 15, 2018 at 4:47 pm
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            “The motive is simply to keep comments on topic and civil. It’s not a perfect or complete process. We do not have the time to monitor every minute and I have better things to do than read them all and surely miss many. As I have said before, just because one person travels down a side alley does not mean you have to follow. It would help if y’all tried to bring the discussion back to the topic. This is not a forum for personal political confessions or diatribes. So if your comment falls along these lines, chances are good it will be deleted. I suspect one of the reasons we are all drawn to the insurance industry is because insurance is so intrinsic to our economic, social and, yes, political lives. Please share your insurance perspectives, insights, experiences and opinions. My hunch is you’ll discover y’all agree more than you disagree. Imagine how great that will feel. Thanks.”

            Andrew,

            I find it telling what you just replied to and how. I think you will find trying to steer the way people talks will simply not end well, and people will leave. Have you noticed me posting here less? More so in bursts when I can. When my posts are deleted by someone who thinks they are making us agree as you just very boldly tried to say is your goal, I don’t want to talk in the area, and neither do most people.

            Sometimes people go off topic.

            However, what is telling is that I said I do not necessarily agree that solely one side is being deleted here, I said Craig or Jack have talked about it, specifically here. You have actually done a well enough job deleting both sides. I did mention some sites, ABC and Disney sites however who make a point of deleting sensible anti Obama posts, and leaving the racist ones, so conservatives look like fools. Some sites definitely do this. Sometimes conservatives test it. It is possible Jack did that above, tested you. The post however stayed, you didn’t delete it, whereas you deleted numerous of mine which were so bold to say the left here was out of line and quantified it. That is concerning.

            At some point or another people need to also confront your policies with their point of view, which since you decided to confront a minor post of mine, I’ve decided to retort.

            Many here have used the very fact that posts were deleted to prove the other side wrong, (Cough Ron) and others have complained about being deleted without reason. I would say that is a sign your methods are failing, would you not?

            People seem more upset by what you are and aren’t deleting, maybe instead of telling them it’s good for them, and why you know better how to get them to share ideas, you should let them barring insults and threats of murder going to the point of say harassing someone calling them Timothy McVeigh, barring that, the comment should stay, even if it seems off topic.

          • June 15, 2018 at 4:56 pm
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            In fact, no. Andrew, while I said you’ve done a decent side of not being one sided, this is compared to your average liberal biased site. Recently I made a post in reply to Ron’s here:

            https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2017/10/04/466298.htm/?comments

            “There is no free market solution for pre-existing conditions that is not cost prohibitive.
            Most coastal property owners or male teen drivers will not file claims every year. Most people with pre-existing conditions will.”

            It was 1000% percent on topic to his, and the title, means to cost control for pre-existing conditions, no insults, you deleted it Andrew.

            You left the second, but you deleted the first, in which I said there is not governmental means to build capital while paying out for catastrophic claims in the long run. I said private insurance only doesn’t work when the government steps in and messes it up, by not allowing someone to buy “junk plans”. So why was that deleted? Off topic? No. Insults? No more than Ron’s in the same line it was replied to, and his are still there.

            What’s your excuse Andrew? I told you before I will start screenshotting this. Do I really have to live up to that, and put you on public trial here so to speak and let people decide if you are biased? It’s going to look bad for you as you would then have to delete those posts fast enough to save your image.

            That recent one should not have been deleted.

          • June 17, 2018 at 8:03 pm
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            I make no claim that all off-topic or offensive comments are deleted. We do not monitor them most of the time. It’s an imperfect system. I’m sorry if I made a mistake with one of yours. I have probably made other mistakes as well. This is not the place to start or perpetuate feuds with other readers or with me. Thank you for your viewpoint on how to handle comments.

    • June 15, 2018 at 12:15 pm
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      Marijuana should be banned for all users, not just children and young adults. Don’t believe me? Look at the stoners posts on this forum sometime. It causes tremendous harm and usually leads to more serious drugs and the crimes they do.

      • June 15, 2018 at 12:42 pm
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        Agent–

        I’ll ask you again:

        what if he DOESN’T change his mind and decides to back lifting the federal ban on marijuana? by your definition, doesn’t that make him a “stoner”? Will you then withdraw your support for him, since you will no longer agree with him 100%, which therefore means he’s not a true conservative?

        What about the comment your pal Jack made? It was taken down, but bob quoted it. Are you going to condemn the comment, or are we to assume you feel the same way?

        Finally–we’re still waiting for your apology for saying that Orlando is in Broward County and that someone who graduated college in 1989 is a millennial. Craig and Yogi have admitted when they were wrong, let’s see what kind of honorable person you are. I’m calling you out.

      • June 15, 2018 at 1:45 pm
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        Agent,
        You’ve often touted support for Tiger Woods out here. He tested positive for THC when he was arrested. I suppose any day now we’ll hear he’s onto meth and heroin, right?

  • June 14, 2018 at 12:58 pm
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    “War on Drugs” since 1960’s(and prior), but focus on last 50 years. That appears to be a sufficient study/testing period. Positive effects of marijuana during that time? Since current reports indicate marijuana today is much more potent than years gone by, if true, is the potency today elevating short term health benefits and masking detrimental longer term health problems and societal problems? Is there any reason to believe potency is not an issue?

    • June 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm
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      Sam,

      If legalized, potency can be regulated, unlike now. In addition, if taken off as a Schedule 1 narcotic, they can do more studies. Right now, too many researchers worry about legal consequences.

      • June 14, 2018 at 1:20 pm
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        If you think about it for even 10 seconds, “regulating” potency is impossible when unregulated pot can be grown in your garage by anyone with a garden hose.

        This is a grand experiment on the brains of Americans. 20 years from now, all you legalization fans will act like you knew millions of people were about to damage their brains/mental health/relationships all along.

        Read the post above about damage to infants in the womb. Now consider that 20% of pregnant American women smoke pot while pregnant and around 40% of African American woman do so.

        You think that is a good thing? (“Taxes should pay for education . . . blah, blah, blah.”) Education should have come FIRST, before legalization, to protect the innocent.

        • June 14, 2018 at 1:37 pm
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          Craig – I see you keep coming back to one argument, and while others have said this multiple times, I would like to repeat it for you in all caps in hopes you stop making the same straw man argument ad nauseum. Ready?

          THERE IS NOBODY WHO POSTS ON THIS SITE WHO HAS EVER ARGUED MARIJUANA IS 100% SAFE. WE ALL AGREE CHILDREN SHOULD NOT USE IT AND THAT THERE ARE REAL DANGERS FOR ADULTS TOO.

          Hopefully you can move off that point now since EVERY time you keep bringing it up, we all agree with you about it.

          ““regulating” potency is impossible when unregulated pot can be grown in your garage by anyone with a garden hose.”

          Wrong. Regulating BLACK MARKET substances is impossible; regulating LEGAL sales of marijuana can (and currently is) being done. As an example: anyone can easily make beer in their home today — home brews “sold” illegally are not regulated at all, but LEGAL sales of home brews is highly regulated.

          • June 14, 2018 at 1:44 pm
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            You are missing the point I make. Neither you nor any of the pot fans will acknowledge that the dangers of pot are not discussed by the media.

            You can pretend you know and talk about the dangers by trying to shut down discussion with a “100% safe” line.

            But if you are honest, you will admit you did not know about the dangers to the fetus, the statistical connection to serious mental illness, the Swedish study on long-time pot users who have dramatically worse overall health outcomes, the number of pregnant African American women who smoke, etc.,etc., etc.

            And if you are a truly compassionate, honest person, you will also admit the media continues to ignore all of this. To the detriment of millions of young Americans. (And the Left takes NO responsibility.)

          • June 14, 2018 at 2:28 pm
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            Pro tip: if your argument is about the media’s lack of attention to marijuana’s dangerous aspects, say so.

            Do me a favor. Re-read your post I replied to where you said “20 years from now, all you legalization fans will act like you knew millions of people were about to damage their brains/mental health/relationships all along.”

            The media is mentioned ZERO times in your post. If your intent was to have the conversation focus on the media “acting like they knew millions blah blah blah” you should’ve wrote “the media” somewhere in that post – even just ONCE would’ve been fine!

          • June 14, 2018 at 2:29 pm
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            “20 years from now, all you legalization fans will act like you knew millions of people were about to damage their brains/mental health/relationships all along.”

            Where did you say anything about the media? Was it written in invisible ink somewhere else in that post?

        • June 14, 2018 at 1:40 pm
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          Craig,

          My assumption is based on the premise that most people will go to a legal distributor for their marijuana because they will know it is much more likely to be safer than buying from someone’s garage. If I turn out to be wrong, I will admit to such.

          I would still keep unregulated growing and distribution illegal, even increasing the fines and prison time for offenses.

          Again, until everything that can be harmful to anyone, including unborn children, is illegal, why are we picking and choosing?

          • June 14, 2018 at 1:46 pm
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            The evidence is overwhelming that the black market is growing in California, Colorado, and Washington, according to state government experts.

            Your theory is incorrect. And by the way, all THC is bad for you. You can smoke 10 “light” blunts or 3 “strong” blunts. Same damage.

          • June 14, 2018 at 2:02 pm
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            Craig,

            Please cite your source(s) regarding the black markets. I tried to Google, but found nothing.

  • June 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm
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    Craig I think you are wrong about the media. I read a lot and in newspapers, national news magazines, political magazines the issue of the harm of marijuana has been presented. this is not a right or left issue. what IS a right or left issue is the legal consequences of possession of it. You can walk down the street holding a liquor bottle with no consequence but if you possess a joint, you have committed a crime. Since we seem to all agree that both alcohol and marijuana are harmful to fetuses in the womb as well as adolescents and adults, it is rather the unequal treatment of these substances in the eyes of the law that is the real problem. So if you believe as I do that the crime of possession for personal use is a non crime like drinking alcohol, it seems the only way to punish mj use as we punish alcohol use is to legalize and regulate. We need to decriminalize personal use just as we did for alcohol via the 26th amendment. There will always be abusers and casualties when either substance is misused. Ask any junior high kid and they know where to score both alcohol and pot. The lefty/righty issue rears its head because the righties appear to want to more severly punish but the lefties want to ease punishment as a general rule.

    • June 14, 2018 at 7:12 pm
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      It is estimated that 20% of pregnant women in America consume THC, and the number is estimated to be much higher for African American women, as high as 40%. (A friend of mine is a nurse at a clinic for poor women. She said she is astonished at how many pregnant women praise pot for helping them during pregnancy. She warns them and they scoff.)

      If you are an honest, compassionate person, you will admit that this is horrible news for black children.

      But if you are an honest, compassionate person, you will also acknowledge that no where in the media did you ever hear about the damage to unborn children from the exposure to THC.

      • June 15, 2018 at 1:38 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        Actually, NPR had an entire segment devoted to THC and unborn children. I think it was back in January. Sometime over the winter, anyhow. NY Times, Forbes, Business Insider – I remember reading articles in each of those publications about that very subject. An honest, compassionate person would acknowledge that there has been media coverage. Perhaps you just didn’t read it or hear it.

        • June 15, 2018 at 3:54 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Right. Did you read what I wrote? 20% of pregnant American women are exposing their unborn children to the possibility of brain damage.

          Perhaps NO ONE reads it or hears it. 40% of black children. Think about that
          for a minute and tell me again the media is doing a good job.

          “Oh hey! There’s famous pot-head Snoop Dog hosting a popular game show! And over there is another joke about smoking pot. HA HA! So funny. There’s Chong of Cheech and Chong pushing his own line of ganja. Awesome, man. I just bought another hip hop album singing about the glories of weed. This is great!”

          Tell me again what the ratings are for NPR? .0000002?

          • June 15, 2018 at 4:37 pm
            confused says:
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            yeah man … all them music folks and nobody talks about how weed is bad!

            I was gonna clean my room until I got high
            I was gonna get up and find the broom but then I got high
            My room is still messed up and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            I was gonna go to class before I got high
            I coulda cheated and I coulda passed but I got high
            I am taking it next semester and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I was gonna go to work but then I got high
            I just got a new promotion but I got high
            Now I’m selling dope and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I was gonna go to court before I got high
            I was gonna pay my child support but then I got high
            They took my whole paycheck and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I wasn’t gonna run from the cops but I was high
            I was gonna pull right over and stop but I was high
            Now I am a paraplegic, and I know why, ’cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I was gonna pay my car note until I got high
            I wasn’t gonna gamble on the boat but then I got high
            Now the tow truck is pulling away and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I was gonna make love to you but then I got high
            I was gonna eat yo pussy too but then I got high
            Now I’m jacking off and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I messed up my entire life because I got high
            I lost my kids and wife because I got high
            Now I’m sleeping on the sidewalk and I know why
            ‘Cause I got high
            Because I got high
            Because I got high
            I’m gonna stop singing this song because I’m high
            I’m singing this whole thing wrong because I’m high
            And if I don’t sell one copy I know why
            ‘Cause I’m high
            Because I’m high
            Because I’m high

          • June 15, 2018 at 4:54 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            What’s the ratings for Snoop Dogg’s game show? .00000001?

  • June 15, 2018 at 7:04 am
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    Stoners gotta censor opposing opinions because such opposition threatens their ability to obtain pot at low costs. And there’s plenty of stoners lurking on Insurance Journal. But, there’s plenty of cyber bytes to post & re-post opinions that support Federal Laws. Molon RaBear !

    • June 15, 2018 at 7:05 am
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      ‘LaBear’, not ‘RaBear’. Bear culpa.

  • June 15, 2018 at 8:19 am
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    Polar–

    I do respect your bilingualism here (or “bearlingualism”), and the fact that you’re willing to correct your errors.

    However–what if we’re NOT all “stoners” that support the legalization / decriminalization of marijuana? Literally EVERY argument you can make about marijuana can be made about alcohol, which is legal and regulated (impairs driving, bad for kids, bad for the brain, DEFINITELY BAD FOR PREGNANT MOTHERS, detrimental to the success of minorities (yet just look at how many liquor stores are in poor neighborhoods), could increase the black market (but if you’ve ever seen “Moonshiners” you know there’s also a black market for booze), etc). Alcohol is legal because the government can make a buck off it. Why not leave it up to the states, just like alcohol? For instance, in some states you can buy beer at a gas station, but then you go to Utah and it has the strictest alcohol laws in the country.

    Leave it up to the states to enforce as they wish. I think even the President feels this way, or is starting to feel this way. Lots of people on both sides do, (yes, Craig, MUCH more on the left) including John Boehner.

    I’m more than happy to answer any CIVIL rebuttals, but won’t be playing any “left vs right” games any more, so please don’t bother. But hey, that’s just my opinion, man.

    Have a great weekend, everybody!

  • June 15, 2018 at 4:00 pm
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    agree w Sal. I think Prohibition and the rescinding of same parellels todays marijuana situation…black markets, gang killings, etc. If the feds decriminalize, states can appeal to more local appetites but if you go from state to state you won’t get nailed. Unfortunately, kids will get their hands on it (they do now) and adults will still have abusers (they do now) but hopefully, the gang stuff will subside…just like when prohibition ended. Punish abusers that sell to minors, punish abusers that cause damage to others…just like we do for alcohol abuse and leave responsible users alone. We waste a lot of resources on policing casual users…money better spent om opiod use war.

    • June 15, 2018 at 4:37 pm
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      Talk to rehabilitation experts who deal with marijuana addiction. They will tell you that addiction numbers have gone way up in the last 10 years. They will also tell you that society’s embrace of marijuana has caused kids to think it is safe.

      Sounds like “success”. Congratulations.

      And your “policing casual users” comment? Embarrassing. Cops stopped doing that a long time ago.



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