Conservative Ex-Google Engineer’s Bias Complaint Goes to Arbitration

By | October 22, 2018

  • October 22, 2018 at 1:23 pm
    Agency says:
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    My firm spends over 5k a month with Google and just had a chat with their representatives who was of course in denial about any bias, though she said if there were then “it has been corrected.” If your firm or agency spending over 1k with Google and you believe what they have been doing is wrong, it’s time to speak up. My position with them was “I don’t want to be funding or participating in this bias.” Political bias in the workplace is really no different than racial bias, the goal is to essentially take away your right to your opinion by intimidation tactics. If you don’t follow suit, then they fire you. In Google’s case, it appears to be widespread across the company and it there have been reports that there is bias in there search results, though this corroborated. Anyway those spending money with Google need to put the heat on them, talk to your sales representatives and let them know that you don’t tolerate political bias.

    • October 22, 2018 at 1:26 pm
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      I wrote:
      Google’s case, it appears to be widespread across the company and it there have been reports that there is bias in there search results, though this corroborated.

      This should have said “though it has not been corroborated.”

      • October 22, 2018 at 1:58 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        Just change the station – Google isn’t the only search engine out there.

        • October 22, 2018 at 3:06 pm
          Carrier Guy says:
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          Oh yes it is. Share rankings: Google 92.31%, Yahoo 2.51%, Bing 2.27%, Baidu 0.85% etc.

          • October 22, 2018 at 3:13 pm
            rob says:
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            I guess there’s always dogpile

          • October 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
            Agency says:
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            Those numbers are old, I think Google now has less than 80%, though still significant dominator of the market.

      • October 22, 2018 at 3:03 pm
        Agent says:
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        Google Biased????? Tell me it isn’t so.

        • October 22, 2018 at 3:27 pm
          Captain Planet says:
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          Maybe Faux Newz can create its own search engine. I bet you don’t have any problem with that bias, correct? Of course you don’t, they play for your team.

          • October 22, 2018 at 3:51 pm
            mikey says:
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            Fox and CNN are clearly biased and the viewers/web readers know that. Google isn’t supposed to be. Not a good comparison.

          • October 22, 2018 at 4:07 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            If you don’t like it, don’t use Google. Free market solution right there!

            People you do business with everyday have political opinions. Do you ask someone’s political affiliation before trying to extend a product of service? Or, do you focus on your bottom line? Is Google going to help your bottom line? Does it really matter at all who the powers that be at Google vote for? I don’t care who my customers vote for nor any services that can help my profitability.

    • October 22, 2018 at 1:29 pm
      Ronald Pettitbone says:
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      I don’t give a rat’s butt about their politics. Since I started buying keywords with Google almost eighteen moths ago, my leads have risen month after month.

    • October 22, 2018 at 2:05 pm
      Captain Planet says:
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      Seems a little snow-flakey to worry about whether or not your search engine is a conservative safe spot. I’d worry more about the business results they are producing for the $5K you spend than who they vote for. That is sort of like someone who leans left saying they are going to pull their 401K because the Koch Bros have their hands in the investments.

  • October 23, 2018 at 9:53 am
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    Damore was not fired for his political leanings but for selectively circulating a junk science memo claiming that his female coworkers were biologically unsuited for their jobs.

    • October 23, 2018 at 5:17 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Really? I never heard that before and I would love to see the “junk science memo” you refer to. Since I have followed this story closely, I am surprised I never heard reference to any science memo, junk or otherwise.

      Can you send me the junk science memo link?

      Larry Summers, a good liberal, was ousted from Harvard for essentially saying what Damore said: that women may have inherent interests that are different from the interests more typical of men. And these interests may lead most women to prefer occupations other than math and science-related jobs.

      WHAT? You mean women and men are biologically DIFFERENT???? You can’t say that in P.C. Land!!

      (Unless you are referring to the 71 different genders that liberals insist on. Then it is okay to say it.)

      • October 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
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        Good one Craig. Prefer to believe the Bible and God created man and woman. Can’t argue with Genetics. Messed up Liberals think there are all kinds of genders. What a stupid position to take. They need a padded cell.

        • October 24, 2018 at 11:49 am
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          OCTOBER 18, 2018 AT 7:51 PM
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          Not every article, news item or argument is political. This comment section is not a place for you to repeatedly flex your partisan political muscles or engage in tit-for-tat exchanges with a handful of others.
          We seek commentary from an insurance perspective from insurance professionals wanting to educate, clarify, contextualize or counter a story or other opinion.
          We respectfully request that all commenters refrain from insults towards one another, avoid profanities and show respect for others at all times. If you or anyone else can’t make your point without insulting another person’s intelligence, morals, ethnicity, character or other trait, then please don’t post it. Those who engage in such behaviors ruin the forum experience for the majority who follow the rules of civil discourse. Comments that disrespect others will be deleted.

          • October 24, 2018 at 1:09 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Thanks for the lecture, Captain Tramp. The article is by definition political. It has to do with being able to state conservative opinions in the workplace as freely as one can speak liberal opinions. Comments are as “on point” as possible as a result.

          • October 24, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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            Here, let me repost the part that applies to Agent’s last comment.

            Andrew G. Simpson says: “We respectfully request that all commenters refrain from insults towards one another, avoid profanities and show respect for others at all times. If you or anyone else can’t make your point without insulting another person’s intelligence, morals, ethnicity, character or other trait, then please don’t post it.”

          • October 24, 2018 at 2:02 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            I was talking about Agent’s insulting of other posters, Craig. Public figures are fair game but other posters are not.

        • October 24, 2018 at 1:23 pm
          rob says:
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          just how flat is your globe, Agent?

        • October 24, 2018 at 1:56 pm
          ??? says:
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          Ok, I have a simple question for both Agent and Craig, or whomever else would like to stick to this point.. Which sex would you classify a person born with AIS (androgen insensitivity syndrome), Male or Female?

          • October 24, 2018 at 2:50 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Answer: male. “Genetically male.” (Next Pointless Question Please)

            “Androgen insensitivity syndrome is a condition that affects sexual development before birth and during puberty. People with this condition are genetically male, with one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell. Because their bodies are unable to respond to certain male sex hormones (called androgens), they may have mostly female external sex characteristics or signs of both male and female sexual development.”

          • October 24, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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            Craig,

            So even though the individual with AIS will appear female, have female organs (excluding specifically ovaries and a uterus), and everyone will perceive them as female, they should be listed as male? Even, when in most cases people are completely unaware that this even exists in the person?

            This would really beg the question.. If the person is “Genetically male” but appears for all intents and purposes female.. Which bathroom do they use?

        • October 24, 2018 at 2:06 pm
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          Agent,
          You mean you prefer to believe the parts of The Bible you agree with. Because, you voted for Tramp and I’m not saying Tramp is the anti-Christ but I am saying Christ is the anti-Tramp.

          • October 31, 2018 at 4:06 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ecclesiastes 10:2 applies directly to you Planet.

          • November 1, 2018 at 5:31 pm
            helpingout says:
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            I mean if you want to take that literally, then yes. Obviously that quote has nothing to do with politics, so why are you using it. That in no way means that you are only intelligent if you are Christian. My local priest has mentioned multiple times people that use this to justify their superiority are having their hearts moved to the left. I think that perfectly implies hear how foolish you are being.

      • October 24, 2018 at 2:17 pm
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        You have not followed this story close enough if you have not read the memo craig, or you are just reading sites with high bias that choose to leave this out. The memo is called Googles Ideological Echo Chamber. This is what he was fired for and google did admit it was due to this paper he circulated around his office.

        https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber

        • October 24, 2018 at 2:51 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          That is NOT a “junk science memo”. It has to do with the culture at Google. Please try to stay on point or Andrew will delete your comments (as if).

          • October 24, 2018 at 5:29 pm
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            This is the memo that was surrounding the reason he was fired. He created this memo. This is the epitome of on topic content about the issues surrounding his dismissal. Anything else?

      • October 26, 2018 at 12:48 pm
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        If you don’t know the absolute basics you haven’t followed the story closely. You’ve surely posted on it a lot, but that doesn’t mean you’ve followed it. His moronic manifesto was loaded with Wikipedia citations, almost all of which have been debunked for decades. He was fired because he wouldn’t stop spreading his misogynistic, disproven theories. You can’t work in a technical field if you are willing to ignore reality.

        • October 26, 2018 at 12:52 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Show me those “misogynistics, disproven theories” you mention. Link to the Wikipedia citations, if they are the “absolute basics” you mention. Walk the walk.

          Women and men are biologically different in many ways. How is THAT misogynistic?

  • October 26, 2018 at 3:35 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    I am not the one making the claims about Wikipedia citations. Tell me where to find them, Mr. Wizard. My guess: all talk.

  • October 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    “I value diversity and inclusion, and I admit that sexism exists, and don’t endorse using stereotypes.”

    These are Damore’s opening lines. Now you tell me with specifics: what’s your beef with someone expressing a thoughtful, considered opinion?

    Here is what is your beef: you disagree. Wah. Wah.



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