Retired Players in NFL Concussion Settlement Balk at Limits on ‘Doctor Shopping’

By | May 20, 2019

  • May 20, 2019 at 9:12 am
    retired risk manager says:
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    It is interesting that there are VERY few head injuries in rugby. But I ask, why is the NFL the only defendant? Didn’t these players starting playing football in the 5-6 grades? What about high school and college? Seems to me that there is an assumption of risk defense, along with sole remedy of workers comp. And the difference between rugby and football …. the helmet.

    • May 20, 2019 at 2:54 pm
      Agent says:
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      In the formative years of the NFL, the players wore leather helmets with no face guard. They lost teeth, but there were no brain injuries because they were smart enough not to lead with their head.

      • May 20, 2019 at 2:57 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        While I agree tackling form was better when people did not lead with their head, were there REALLY no brain injuries or did they just call concussions “getting your bell rung” and forced you right back into the game?

        • May 20, 2019 at 3:56 pm
          SAK74 says:
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          I completely agree. As science and medicine progress doctors are able to find why things happen how they do and the causes. We see more issues now because of those advancements.

          As for the difference between Rugby and Football brain injuries I cannot really explain as I don’t know anything about Rugby. I did read that it is thought there are less head injuries due to the rules/laws regarding tackling and leading with the head etc. Whether that is true or just mumbo jumbo to keep lawsuitst at bay I couldn’t say.

          I don’t think it is unreasonable to try and prevent doctor shopping and fraud. If there are injuries that meet the settlement guidelines they should be paid accordingly but that doesn’t mean we can go to doctors until we find one that says yep this qualifies when all the others have said no or inconclusive……..

          • May 21, 2019 at 7:57 am
            retired risk manager says:
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            Try a little research about Rugby. You will quickly see why there are very few American football players that will even consider playing. Check NBC or Direct Tv #220 this weekend. Semi finals of Premiership Rugby. “Give blood, play Rugby”. Or the classic, “It takes leather balls to play Rugby”. No blocking, no forward passing, no padding, no helmets.

          • May 21, 2019 at 12:53 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Oh, please. You sound like someone who never played football, which depending on position, takes a lot of guts. Ever been hit so hard in football that your whole body hurt? Nearly everyone who played knows that feeling.

            Pretending rugby is “tougher” than football is ridiculous and you know it.

    • May 21, 2019 at 12:05 pm
      craig cornell says:
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      “Assumption of the risk” is an accepted legal theory when the risk is known. The risk was not known by players until the last 10 years or so. And still it isn’t clear, since testing for CTE can only be done after death; no one yet knows the likelihood of brain damage from playing football at this time.

      But we now know – for the first time – the link, if not the likelihood See SacFlood’s comment below.

      • May 21, 2019 at 2:09 pm
        retired risk manager says:
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        Sorry Craig. I played both. Played Rugby in Berlin for a military team. Would have been considered semi-pro level. What have you played?

        • May 21, 2019 at 5:38 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Organized football and skins and shirts football (ie. rugby).

          Both require toughness. Be honest.

          • May 23, 2019 at 2:49 pm
            PoorAngryCraig says:
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            Do you just have to get mad about everything? The topic is football, calm down or go to 4-chan with the other angry children.

          • May 23, 2019 at 7:46 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            I’m not angry. I’m just amused when people say ludicrous, untrue things. Especially when completely off-topic (“why are there no head injuries in rugby?”) No body knows how many rugby players have CTE. It hasn’t been tested. To say there are no head injuries in rugby is ridiculous.

            And then to claim rugby is tougher than football? Not only off point, but ludicrous on the face. They both require toughness.

            Are you laughing? Me too.

            And the article is about doctor shopping.

    • May 22, 2019 at 1:47 pm
      Augustine says:
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      Retired Risk Manager–in Rugby when you tackle you do not lead with your head and it is also illegal for any contact above the shoulders. Textbook rugby tackling is taught by tackling below the hips, driving forward and wrapping up the opponents legs between the knights and upper thigh. Rugby tackling would be more comparable to a wrestling double leg than a football tackle. I grew up in the UK playing rugby, and my dad played college level rugby in university in the UK…

      • May 22, 2019 at 1:49 pm
        Augustine says:
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        Sorry meant to reply above to retired risk manager’s post…

    • May 22, 2019 at 1:51 pm
      Augustine says:
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      Retired Risk Manager–in Rugby when you tackle you do not lead with your head and it is also illegal for any contact above the shoulders. Textbook rugby tackling is taught by tackling below the hips, driving forward and wrapping up the opponents legs between the knees and upper thigh. Rugby tackling would be more comparable to a wrestling double leg than a football tackle. I grew up in the UK playing rugby, and my dad played college level rugby in university in the UK… Obviously rugby can be BRUTAL but I think the tackling fundamentals are very different.

  • May 20, 2019 at 1:17 pm
    SacFlood says:
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    See the movie “Concussion.” I have seen it three times. It will answer all of your questions.



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