Some Claims of Medical Cannabis Lack Scientific Evidence

By | June 11, 2019

  • June 11, 2019 at 10:08 am
    De-classifying Isn't a Cover-up says:
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    This fairly balanced, seemingly unbiased article shows the lack of supporting evidence for several claims by stoning supporters.

    I support medi-pot, if highly regulated, but do not support recre-pot. I also believe there are and will be better alternatives to medi-pot for pain relief. I cannot accept that medi-pot is the ONLY effective pain reliever. Anyone who claims so is not earnest… or worse.

    This article discusses the important issues of medi-pot claims, and will be useful for future / current debates on both pot issues. It doesn’t support in any manner recre-pot.

    • June 11, 2019 at 4:05 pm
      Stephen Tallinghasternathy says:
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      We don’t care (turns up the heady ’77 Grateful Dead bootleg)

      • June 11, 2019 at 4:11 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Is that 5/8/77 DAUD 1 on an unpacked Maxell XL2? :D

        • June 11, 2019 at 4:15 pm
          Stephen Tallinghasternathy says:
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          That boot has been spun a time or two

          We are everywhere ;)

  • June 11, 2019 at 11:11 am
    Rosenblatt says:
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    “The U.S. government grows marijuana for research at a farm in Mississippi and generally bans grant-funded studies of real-world products. …. the Drug Enforcement Administration created an application process for growers, but has not acted on more than two dozen applications.”

    If there’s only one type of pot to test, the DEA isn’t willing to approve any growers who applied to conduct further testing, and the only person who has grants to legally test it has to ask people to come into his van to tell him what they’ve smoked and get their blood drawn, that’s insufficient to make any statistically significant claim about how effective or ineffective the drug may be.

    Remove marijuana from Schedule I – let different strains be tested (especially since CBD-heavy strains are more likely to show a reduction in pain relief than THC-heavy strains) – and let’s see what the science actually tells us.

    • June 11, 2019 at 1:29 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      • June 11, 2019 at 1:54 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Title of article: Some Claims of Medical Cannabis Lack Scientific Evidence

        My conclusion: testing has been flawed for reasons I’ve explained — how about we do some real comprehensive testing and see what the results are then?

        I don’t know how I could’ve stayed more on-topic than that my friend.

        Just because you don’t like my idea doesn’t mean I moved the goal posts.

        • June 12, 2019 at 12:08 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Again, you explain away the lying by saying it is the testing that is flawed. But that is a logical train wreck (if YOU aren’t the one lying). People making claims for Medi-pot that are false aren’t relying on ANY science at all to back them up.

          Again, you have moved the goal posts. First you said we needed testing. Now you say the testing we have isn’t any good. Next, you will say Democrats were tricked into lying about Medi-pot by scientists.

          • June 12, 2019 at 12:28 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            I am not moving the goalposts buddy. I’ve always said current testing is incomplete and we need more comprehensive testing, BUT that’s IMPOSSIBLE to do until it’s no longer listed as a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

            And again, LYING IS BAD.

            I am not justifying the lies of others. I am simply expressing what I BELIEVE on this subject. I am not here to list every lie anyone has ever told about marijuana and explain why those lies are bad.

            LYING IS BAD.

            MAKE LYING WRONG AGAIN.

          • June 17, 2019 at 2:40 pm
            bob says:
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            “I am not moving the goalposts buddy. I’ve always said current testing is incomplete and we need more comprehensive testing, BUT that’s IMPOSSIBLE to do until it’s no longer listed as a Schedule 1 controlled substance.”

            Testing for what purpose? Any negatives you shrug off, and you just said you would legalize heroin, which has far worse effects.

            So this is you debating dishonestly. If you would legalize heroin, there is no point to testing.

            You dishonest hack.

        • June 18, 2019 at 12:51 pm
          Agent says:
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          Marijuana in any form is ultimately harmful and is a gateway drug to more serious drugs. Common Sense.

      • June 11, 2019 at 2:01 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        PS – the article was clearly written to “…look at the health claims and research on medical marijuana.”

        What did I do? I explained why I thought the research is flawed. And lest you forget, I’ve already admitted numerous times that I have no problem admitting marijuana has many negative effects.

        https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2019/06/07/528634.htm/?comments

        I don’t know why you’re upset with my post.

        Do you want to talk about “the health claims and research on medical marijuana” or not?

        • June 11, 2019 at 4:21 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          So, because you think more testing is done, the claims that are false are okay.

          Got it.

          • June 11, 2019 at 4:52 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Nope. That’s not what I said nor implied.

            Once again your Straw Man Argument is completely wrong and utterly devoid of even a modicum of proper reading comprehension.

          • June 11, 2019 at 4:56 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            So I misunderstood, and in fact you are against Democrats lying about Medi-pot in order to legalize Medi-pot, is that correct?

          • June 12, 2019 at 8:01 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Nope. That’s not what I said nor implied either.

            Once again your Straw Man Arguments is are completely wrong and utterly devoid of even a modicum of proper reading comprehension.

          • June 12, 2019 at 8:34 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Craig – I should add I am not okay with anyone lying, but that was not the point I was making.

            M ake
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    • June 11, 2019 at 1:30 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      P.S. Kudos to Insurance Journal for publishing this.

  • June 11, 2019 at 1:42 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    What about the downsides to consumption of THC products that don’t lead to mental illness or other serious problems? Talk to young people about how frequent pot consumers often end up having a hard time keeping food down. Ever hear the media talk about that? Nearly every person under 30 knows someone going through this.

    • June 11, 2019 at 2:58 pm
      Agent says:
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      Craig, one of the most serious problems developed by Recre-users is “Scromiting”. That is alternately vomiting and screaming. It messes with the nerves and hot showers for long periods are needed to alleviate the condition. When the user starts in again, the scromiting comes right back. I feel sorry for the regular pot heads. They are in deep trouble and don’t even know it until it happens to them.

    • June 12, 2019 at 9:24 am
      jsmooth says:
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      I have never heard of this. It wouldn’t surprise me though. What I do know is this; When I was going through Chemo and Radiation, medical marijuana was not approved in the state of MO. I was taking up to 26 different medications per day for nearly a year. Trying to keep that much medication down, while only being able to “eat” using a feeding tube, is rather difficult. My Chemo Doctor said it was unfortunate the medical mary jane wasn’t legal here as that is what they prescribe a great number of Cancer patients while going through Chemo treatments. It coats the stomach and allows the person to keep their necessary medication down. I had three different anti nausea medications. Sometimes they worked, but not all the time. When they do not work, you’ve lost a lot of incredibly important (life saving) type of medication go to waste. Swallowing the pills, then throwing them up in 15 minutes, does no good. So, medical pot was legalized in many states to help with this issue. I’m not a doctor, and won’t play one on IJ, but have to wonder what the difference is between the medical variety that is prescribed by Cancer Doctors all over the world to give relief to Cancer patients. Is it the smoking it part that makes people vomit? THC is usually in pill form for Cancer. I missed the opportunity to use it, but with the medical variety available here now, I would absolutely give it a try should my Cancer come back. I’m not a pot fan. At all. But, that’s my own take and I have no issues with others that smoke it. For health reasons, I would absolutely use the THC pills to help with keeping medication down during Chemo though. I’m not even certain if it’s the same thing, but wanted to toss this out here as medical marijuana does have at least one solid benefit I am well aware of.

      • June 12, 2019 at 12:03 pm
        Craig Cornell says:
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        That’s true. For many (most?) chemotherapy patients, there is a valid use for THC products to alleviate the nausea associated with chemotherapy. And for some MS patients, there is relief for symptoms.

        But the claims of the Pot Fans otherwise are usually lies. For a long time, the Pot World said THC helped schizophrenia patients. Now, the AMA and their British equivalent have reversed course and said it looks like THC in fact can cause someone to become schizophrenic instead of alleviate it.

        The good news is that the lies are FINALLY being exposed and the legalization freight train is grinding to a halt. Medical marijuana will continue to be legalized but for legitimate reasons now, and while the Dems. supporting legal recreational pot are STILL lying (see Klobuchar, et al), the truth is getting out about what a mistake Pot for Fun really is.

        • June 12, 2019 at 12:46 pm
          Agent says:
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          You are correct Craig. Recre-users are about the most schizophrenic people in this country.

          • June 14, 2019 at 2:52 pm
            Captain Planet says:
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            Yes,
            All one has to do is look no further than the NBA. A strong majority of those players use it regularly. Look at all the schizo’s in last night’s Game 6. Definitely the most schizophrenic people in this country.

            Oh…wait…

  • June 11, 2019 at 2:11 pm
    Charlie says:
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    I see the article didn’t mention at all the documented scientific research that has been going on for years in Israel and Europe. Just like with our biased main stream media, you need to go outside of the US these days to find out what’s really going on in the world.

  • June 11, 2019 at 4:19 pm
    MadDog says:
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    I was at a festival last week where someone was selling CBD. A woman customer walked up and raved about how incredibly effective CBD was as a pain reliever for all of her ailments. I didn’t buy any because, fortunately, I don’t have any aches or pains. I did believe her though.

    • June 11, 2019 at 4:23 pm
      Agent says:
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      MadDog, scromit much?

      • June 14, 2019 at 2:51 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        Agent,
        CBD doesn’t have any THC. It doesn’t cause any intoxicating effects. Once again, you show you know pretty much nothing on this subject.

  • June 17, 2019 at 5:25 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    From today’s Washington Post on the damage to kids in Colorado.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/potent-pot-vulnerable-teens-trigger-concerns-in-first-states-to-legalize-marijuana/2019/06/15/52df638a-8c9a-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_st

    Liberals: “Who gives a crap? So what if the damage to kids is FAR worse than any Pot Fan admitted would happen, despite the warnings from people who knew before legalization what the dangers were. But we are LIBERALS! Truth is never a problem for us and we care less about living kids than we do about kids in the womb! Collateral Damage, folks, toke up! and keep on pretending legalization will keep pot from the kids. HA HA HA!”



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