Yes, I made a mistake and freely admit it. I realize that it’s completely unheard of with our current administration, but you should try it sometime, it’s very freeing to admit you’re human.
Need we remind you of every little one of your mistakes, such as that time you unintentionally provided your actual name and email address? If I remember correctly, it was some of your biggest opponents who rallied to your defense and asked the IJ to please delete it for your own privacy.
You are 100% correct Ralph – when we saw that he doxxed himself, we not only reached out to Andrew directly but also replied to him to let him know about his mistake. I don’t recall him ever saying thank you, but I wasn’t expecting that anyway.
As for reminding Agent of his other mistakes, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Flo is not a fictional character and she pays taxes under Flo’s SS#. Heroine is a drug. If you are a homeowner who is renting your home to someone else, the homeowner needs renters insurance.
And I’m SURE he’ll bring up estuaries in his reply to me even though the south side of Long Island is 100% an estuary and estuaries are influenced by tidal forces.
How about you list a few of your mistakes, if you can even remember them.
You’re pretty good at monitoring Agent’s.
I get really tired of this “Yeah, I can prove Agent won’t admit he’s wrong” And I can prove you don’t just as often. It is not relevant to discord in this section, in which you all constantly talk as if you are better than agent.
It has caused the right here to go for your throats, and then you all say “well you insult just like us!” when they tell you they have had enough of your garbage.
It’s about time for you guys to start saying, you know what you’re right. Sorry about that, I’m not perfect. Or, ok, I get it, you are upset about my comment, now can we got back to being buds?
September 26, 2019 at 3:57 pm
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I mean really, I was called Timothy Mc Veigh for like 3 months straight. I have a bit of a reason to be ticked off, and so does the right here.
You can say “we also have a reason to be ticked off, now let’s move on” and be non specific, but instead, you insist on saying “remember that one time, hypocrite?” which is bound to go in circle for eternity as it has.
I am the only one here that has bent over backwards to get the two sides to knock this off. I know that you on the left view it as an assault on you, but you constantly ignore my comments to Craig telling him he could speak better, he is off topic, or he is wrong. I have made a project out of him, so to speak, and I don’t see the left here keeping their side in check at all. Do that, draw lines, say my bad, don’t come back with hypocrite you do it too, yatta yatta, repair the rifts in this comment section instead of speaking as if you are above them and agent and Craig.
September 26, 2019 at 4:04 pm
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I like you, bob. I don’t always agree with you, but you’ve always made valid points and it’s obvious you do your homework. I do wish people would stop attacking each other here, stay away from politics and just stick to insurance. I’ve been guilty of it as well and it’s something I do need to work on. the fact remains that there’s plenty out there we could learn from each other.
take care.
September 26, 2019 at 5:34 pm
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Bob,
You have tried to tell (selectively) both sides that they need to act better. Mostly directed toward Jon, myself, captain, and the rare time agent (hasn’t been bad in awhile).
The issue is that you yourself fall into the category of needing to stop attacking others on this site, and also pointing your comments to insurance rather than personal attacks. I have admitted that I am part of the issue, but I have been pointing out the times you are going off the rails and being unfair and hypocritical. I know that has angered you more and more recently, but I will continue to do it as you are have not stopped yet.
I hope we can go back to a time when we all were able to discuss insurance, but that went away about 2 years ago, and recently we can’t even see comments anymore because people in all shapes and sizes (typically 6 people now get the comments shut down you and I included when we go back and forth).
I hope everyone has a great day!
September 26, 2019 at 10:14 pm
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Do I need to try to act better?
I hope I’ve acted properly…. It’s tough to teach old bears new tricks.
September 27, 2019 at 9:48 am
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I would say you should act better Polar. I will say you are a lot better than you were last year when you did nothing but make false accusations and insult people.
And yes you did say you had insider information which would indicate being a political insider. Just because you have a bad memory, isn’t our fault.
September 26, 2019 at 3:40 pm
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What’s your point on that last comment about his biggest opponents? None of which are speaking up about Jon, and every time I talk about Jon’s inappropriate behavior rail on me, and have been doing this now for about a week, refusing to condemn Jon once. I guess we are back to “Agent is the worst, we need to fix Agent, man, if only there weren’t an agent in this place, we would all get along” and not any of the left taking responsibility at all for their role in the discord here going down hill.
Your swing there is basically a way of saying “Well I make mistakes like you, but I’m better than you”.
Let’s dive into this a little bit so you can clearly see everything and why your reply to Ralph and not Agent is what we have been discussing about you recently.
Ralph made a mistake and admitted it at around 10:30 a.m. below, when Agent’s reply was at 2:45 p.m. as he stated ralph was high again. By indicating someone was high for making a mistake even after he admitted he put the comment on the wrong article is wrong by agent.
Ralph made a comment that he is willing to make mistakes, but rather Agent when he makes mistakes does not admit to them and instead deflects. You do this as well, yet you go after ralph for his idea that those who can admit their mistakes are better than those who cannot. I think this is very true as it shows personal prospective that everyone can use.
You also indicated that someone called you names before (over a year ago maybe?) but agent by putting high again is indicating that he has said that to ralph multiple times (he has done it to more than just ralph multiple times, rather anyone that agrees with legalization, Mike has a lot of issues with that).
Again, why are you pointing out ralph’s comment, but not discussing agent’s inappropriate comment? Again this is the issues I have been pointing out for you recently.
September 24, 2019 at 5:41 pm
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You’ll have a long wait for anything like that because no one in the insurance industry will masquerade as something they are not.
BTW: where does one get a ‘Climate Scientist’ certification, and what are the requirements for such, and the ongoing/ continuing professional education requirements?
I dunno, Yogi…as far as anyone in the insurance industry pretending to be something they’re not, you’ve been caught plenty of times on here masquerading as a political insider with advanced knowledge about a health plan that was supposed to replace Obamacare 3 years ago, claiming that Jeff Sessions would launch a major crack-down on pot nationwide, and having knowledge about non-existent Soros-funded BOTs infiltrating the IJ to censor conservative opinions. Your credibility went out the window years ago.
What burn? Read my reply, which points out the mis-characterization of my ‘insider info’ as ‘political insider’.
Jeff Sessions didn’t last long enough to pursue the pot issue. Others who followed him are being sidetracked by all the Dems phony scandals, month after month. Unfortunately for the Dems, the durham study will be out in less than two months. REPEAT: less than two months. Those who copy my posts should be sure to copy it and re-post it …. I’ll repeat it when the report identifies the culprits that diverted Congress from it’s duties over the last 3 years.
September 27, 2019 at 10:58 am
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LOL you can deny it but you got served so hard Polar
September 26, 2019 at 10:18 pm
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I NEVER said I was a ‘political insider’ about the health care replacement plans I’ve seen / read / analyzed. If you want to put a label on me, call me ‘a student of a few proposals to repeal and replace ACA;. Got it?
The McCain block of the repeal of ACA was the reason that the plans were not published, as was expected. Until that happens, no one will see much of anything that hasn’t already been published.
I don’t know, I usually find Ralph’s comments pretty funny. Honestly his post could be seen totally seriously, the way some of the members of the Right have been acting around here. Stodgy old dinosaurs who love to tell you their opinion and state it as fact are kind of a majority around these parts. I was really more expecting Agent to post a four or five word insult against vapers or dopers though, I think that’s more likely here.
my comment was actually meant to go under one of the climate change articles and is completely in the wrong place here. I even downvoted my own comment and upvoted Rosenblatt’s to show my utter disgust with myself.
I think I was quick with my retort because it felt like major trolling since it completely totally off-topic. I’d like to think I have a decent sense of humor and can pick up on sarcasm without an (/s) or some other way of noting it, but I’m sure everyone thinks they’re funny so who knows. I just didn’t think it was funny because it had nothing to do with the article.
And here we go again, flip it, that’s you, on the opinion stated as fact.
Again you go on old dinosaurs, you and I are roughly the same age. I’m 34, you once already said your age range I forgot what it was, but you are definitely a millennial. It’s getting sad that you think you are still in the young crowd, and that being young makes you more prone to be right.
The right here “pretends” like they have ideas, but you won’t have any of that nonsense will you? The people on the right don’t have reasons to believe what they do (as you numerous times have said). I’ve numerous times said the left has reasons, but is often wrong. I also have said left ideals I agree with, and that I would vote Biden. You are not balanced and need to knock this crud off.
Also let the record show, I have not said boy since that first time saying it like 3 times, but, here Jon is again, going back to the same insult, repeated again, and again, and again, and again, and when told to stop, he always says basically NO and he will continue to shame and beat on the right.
I am still ticked off at confused and Rosenblatt on that one, I specifically after the fact said fine I won’t call him boy, and fine, I won’t insult his weight again (though he walked into it and used it to say he could hurt someone else here, so I believe it was justified) but I still won’t.
Where is the “fine I won’t do that anymore” from Jon, or for that matter you Rosenblatt?
I want to pint out that your first sentence is not true. You called Jon a boy multiple times on multiple threads. By stating it was only 3 times, it is false. I am happy to see you admit you did do it, and you did it for the wrong reasons, but you cannot downplay how many times it occurred.
In addition the one weight one were you say Jon walked into it, I believe you were the one who first said Jon would lose. With everyone here having a sensitive ego, you and me both included, I think Jon reacted about the same that you did I think it was year ago (please correct me if I am wrong on the timeline).
I haven’t seen you call Jon a boy in about a week, but before then I 100% did. The issue is that those threads are also taken down because of Jon, Jack, and your comments from the boy situation.
Do you, by chance, have a tally of Jon’s cumulative total of insults and personal attacks on conservatives (e.g. ‘naht-zees’), with many of them in a single post counting as ‘many’, not ‘one’? If not, you’re hurting the atmosphere here, rather than helping it.
September 27, 2019 at 9:41 am
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Polar,
I have said on numerous occasions that Jon’s debating tactics are not great, but I can remember a time when all you did was attack people on this site. I think he is taking a page from your book.
Overall, if we could all focus on insurance instead of being bigots and attacking others, it would be really nice. Go back to 2 years ago, last year it was the year of polar and agent attacks.
September 27, 2019 at 10:54 am
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Helpingout you get it. It is amazingly entertaining how little these guys understand that I’ve just been fighting fire with fire. It helps that I’m younger, smarter and better looking than them too, but really I’m just doing their own tactics at them. The difference is I actually do my research and use data and evidence to back up my claims. When they try the same, we get events like Craig posting articles that refute his own claims, or Polar alternating between crying about people doing nothing but attacking others or attacking others. It’s pretty chill.
September 24, 2019 at 5:42 pm
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Hmm. No comments on the article by anyone thus far…
It is not just new posters, there are some that have been on here for years. People who have got comments shut down include:
Jon, Jack, Bob, helpingout, and Craig.
So only one new poster, and he is using the tactics Craig, Agent, and yourself used last year so I wonder if he was reading last year, but just not posting in the comments.
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This forum is not the place for your off-topic and personal bickering, diatribes, labeling and character attacks that have been increasing in number and difficult to keep up with. Please take those elsewhere. As we have said numerous times, one person going off-topic or being inappropriate does not justify following them. Driver: “But officer, that driver was also going too fast but you didn’t pull them over. That’s unfair.” Officer: “Here’s your ticket.”
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And it especially includes you Bob, you were named. Don’t try to deflect your blame by indicating cap is also a part of it. While it may be true, you are part of the issue on this site now.
September 30, 2019 at 3:35 pm
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I can take my share of the blame, but Cap has actually been pretty darn civil. The worst I’ve seen him do is post quotes of things someone has actually said on this board previously that show their hypocrisy. Pretty great, imo.
I can’t wait to read all the brilliant comments from climate scientists masquerading as insurance professionals on this thread!
May I suggest youtube comments if you’d like to continue trolling?
Poor Ralph is high again. Can’t even reply correctly to the subject matter.
Yes, I made a mistake and freely admit it. I realize that it’s completely unheard of with our current administration, but you should try it sometime, it’s very freeing to admit you’re human.
Need we remind you of every little one of your mistakes, such as that time you unintentionally provided your actual name and email address? If I remember correctly, it was some of your biggest opponents who rallied to your defense and asked the IJ to please delete it for your own privacy.
You are 100% correct Ralph – when we saw that he doxxed himself, we not only reached out to Andrew directly but also replied to him to let him know about his mistake. I don’t recall him ever saying thank you, but I wasn’t expecting that anyway.
As for reminding Agent of his other mistakes, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Flo is not a fictional character and she pays taxes under Flo’s SS#. Heroine is a drug. If you are a homeowner who is renting your home to someone else, the homeowner needs renters insurance.
And I’m SURE he’ll bring up estuaries in his reply to me even though the south side of Long Island is 100% an estuary and estuaries are influenced by tidal forces.
How about you list a few of your mistakes, if you can even remember them.
You’re pretty good at monitoring Agent’s.
I get really tired of this “Yeah, I can prove Agent won’t admit he’s wrong” And I can prove you don’t just as often. It is not relevant to discord in this section, in which you all constantly talk as if you are better than agent.
It has caused the right here to go for your throats, and then you all say “well you insult just like us!” when they tell you they have had enough of your garbage.
It’s about time for you guys to start saying, you know what you’re right. Sorry about that, I’m not perfect. Or, ok, I get it, you are upset about my comment, now can we got back to being buds?
I mean really, I was called Timothy Mc Veigh for like 3 months straight. I have a bit of a reason to be ticked off, and so does the right here.
You can say “we also have a reason to be ticked off, now let’s move on” and be non specific, but instead, you insist on saying “remember that one time, hypocrite?” which is bound to go in circle for eternity as it has.
I am the only one here that has bent over backwards to get the two sides to knock this off. I know that you on the left view it as an assault on you, but you constantly ignore my comments to Craig telling him he could speak better, he is off topic, or he is wrong. I have made a project out of him, so to speak, and I don’t see the left here keeping their side in check at all. Do that, draw lines, say my bad, don’t come back with hypocrite you do it too, yatta yatta, repair the rifts in this comment section instead of speaking as if you are above them and agent and Craig.
I like you, bob. I don’t always agree with you, but you’ve always made valid points and it’s obvious you do your homework. I do wish people would stop attacking each other here, stay away from politics and just stick to insurance. I’ve been guilty of it as well and it’s something I do need to work on. the fact remains that there’s plenty out there we could learn from each other.
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Bob,
You have tried to tell (selectively) both sides that they need to act better. Mostly directed toward Jon, myself, captain, and the rare time agent (hasn’t been bad in awhile).
The issue is that you yourself fall into the category of needing to stop attacking others on this site, and also pointing your comments to insurance rather than personal attacks. I have admitted that I am part of the issue, but I have been pointing out the times you are going off the rails and being unfair and hypocritical. I know that has angered you more and more recently, but I will continue to do it as you are have not stopped yet.
I hope we can go back to a time when we all were able to discuss insurance, but that went away about 2 years ago, and recently we can’t even see comments anymore because people in all shapes and sizes (typically 6 people now get the comments shut down you and I included when we go back and forth).
I hope everyone has a great day!
Do I need to try to act better?
I hope I’ve acted properly…. It’s tough to teach old bears new tricks.
I would say you should act better Polar. I will say you are a lot better than you were last year when you did nothing but make false accusations and insult people.
And yes you did say you had insider information which would indicate being a political insider. Just because you have a bad memory, isn’t our fault.
What’s your point on that last comment about his biggest opponents? None of which are speaking up about Jon, and every time I talk about Jon’s inappropriate behavior rail on me, and have been doing this now for about a week, refusing to condemn Jon once. I guess we are back to “Agent is the worst, we need to fix Agent, man, if only there weren’t an agent in this place, we would all get along” and not any of the left taking responsibility at all for their role in the discord here going down hill.
Your swing there is basically a way of saying “Well I make mistakes like you, but I’m better than you”.
Hey Bob!
Let’s dive into this a little bit so you can clearly see everything and why your reply to Ralph and not Agent is what we have been discussing about you recently.
Ralph made a mistake and admitted it at around 10:30 a.m. below, when Agent’s reply was at 2:45 p.m. as he stated ralph was high again. By indicating someone was high for making a mistake even after he admitted he put the comment on the wrong article is wrong by agent.
Ralph made a comment that he is willing to make mistakes, but rather Agent when he makes mistakes does not admit to them and instead deflects. You do this as well, yet you go after ralph for his idea that those who can admit their mistakes are better than those who cannot. I think this is very true as it shows personal prospective that everyone can use.
You also indicated that someone called you names before (over a year ago maybe?) but agent by putting high again is indicating that he has said that to ralph multiple times (he has done it to more than just ralph multiple times, rather anyone that agrees with legalization, Mike has a lot of issues with that).
Again, why are you pointing out ralph’s comment, but not discussing agent’s inappropriate comment? Again this is the issues I have been pointing out for you recently.
You’ll have a long wait for anything like that because no one in the insurance industry will masquerade as something they are not.
BTW: where does one get a ‘Climate Scientist’ certification, and what are the requirements for such, and the ongoing/ continuing professional education requirements?
I dunno, Yogi…as far as anyone in the insurance industry pretending to be something they’re not, you’ve been caught plenty of times on here masquerading as a political insider with advanced knowledge about a health plan that was supposed to replace Obamacare 3 years ago, claiming that Jeff Sessions would launch a major crack-down on pot nationwide, and having knowledge about non-existent Soros-funded BOTs infiltrating the IJ to censor conservative opinions. Your credibility went out the window years ago.
You need some ointment for that burn Yogi?
What burn? Read my reply, which points out the mis-characterization of my ‘insider info’ as ‘political insider’.
Jeff Sessions didn’t last long enough to pursue the pot issue. Others who followed him are being sidetracked by all the Dems phony scandals, month after month. Unfortunately for the Dems, the durham study will be out in less than two months. REPEAT: less than two months. Those who copy my posts should be sure to copy it and re-post it …. I’ll repeat it when the report identifies the culprits that diverted Congress from it’s duties over the last 3 years.
LOL you can deny it but you got served so hard Polar
I NEVER said I was a ‘political insider’ about the health care replacement plans I’ve seen / read / analyzed. If you want to put a label on me, call me ‘a student of a few proposals to repeal and replace ACA;. Got it?
The McCain block of the repeal of ACA was the reason that the plans were not published, as was expected. Until that happens, no one will see much of anything that hasn’t already been published.
If ralph thinks my credibility ‘went out the window’, I’m glad.
I don’t know, I usually find Ralph’s comments pretty funny. Honestly his post could be seen totally seriously, the way some of the members of the Right have been acting around here. Stodgy old dinosaurs who love to tell you their opinion and state it as fact are kind of a majority around these parts. I was really more expecting Agent to post a four or five word insult against vapers or dopers though, I think that’s more likely here.
my comment was actually meant to go under one of the climate change articles and is completely in the wrong place here. I even downvoted my own comment and upvoted Rosenblatt’s to show my utter disgust with myself.
rough morning.
I think I was quick with my retort because it felt like major trolling since it completely totally off-topic. I’d like to think I have a decent sense of humor and can pick up on sarcasm without an (/s) or some other way of noting it, but I’m sure everyone thinks they’re funny so who knows. I just didn’t think it was funny because it had nothing to do with the article.
Anywhoo….hope your day gets better!
And here we go again, flip it, that’s you, on the opinion stated as fact.
Again you go on old dinosaurs, you and I are roughly the same age. I’m 34, you once already said your age range I forgot what it was, but you are definitely a millennial. It’s getting sad that you think you are still in the young crowd, and that being young makes you more prone to be right.
The right here “pretends” like they have ideas, but you won’t have any of that nonsense will you? The people on the right don’t have reasons to believe what they do (as you numerous times have said). I’ve numerous times said the left has reasons, but is often wrong. I also have said left ideals I agree with, and that I would vote Biden. You are not balanced and need to knock this crud off.
Also let the record show, I have not said boy since that first time saying it like 3 times, but, here Jon is again, going back to the same insult, repeated again, and again, and again, and again, and when told to stop, he always says basically NO and he will continue to shame and beat on the right.
I am still ticked off at confused and Rosenblatt on that one, I specifically after the fact said fine I won’t call him boy, and fine, I won’t insult his weight again (though he walked into it and used it to say he could hurt someone else here, so I believe it was justified) but I still won’t.
Where is the “fine I won’t do that anymore” from Jon, or for that matter you Rosenblatt?
I want to pint out that your first sentence is not true. You called Jon a boy multiple times on multiple threads. By stating it was only 3 times, it is false. I am happy to see you admit you did do it, and you did it for the wrong reasons, but you cannot downplay how many times it occurred.
In addition the one weight one were you say Jon walked into it, I believe you were the one who first said Jon would lose. With everyone here having a sensitive ego, you and me both included, I think Jon reacted about the same that you did I think it was year ago (please correct me if I am wrong on the timeline).
I haven’t seen you call Jon a boy in about a week, but before then I 100% did. The issue is that those threads are also taken down because of Jon, Jack, and your comments from the boy situation.
Again, I just want to point out the truth.
Do you, by chance, have a tally of Jon’s cumulative total of insults and personal attacks on conservatives (e.g. ‘naht-zees’), with many of them in a single post counting as ‘many’, not ‘one’? If not, you’re hurting the atmosphere here, rather than helping it.
Polar,
I have said on numerous occasions that Jon’s debating tactics are not great, but I can remember a time when all you did was attack people on this site. I think he is taking a page from your book.
Overall, if we could all focus on insurance instead of being bigots and attacking others, it would be really nice. Go back to 2 years ago, last year it was the year of polar and agent attacks.
Helpingout you get it. It is amazingly entertaining how little these guys understand that I’ve just been fighting fire with fire. It helps that I’m younger, smarter and better looking than them too, but really I’m just doing their own tactics at them. The difference is I actually do my research and use data and evidence to back up my claims. When they try the same, we get events like Craig posting articles that refute his own claims, or Polar alternating between crying about people doing nothing but attacking others or attacking others. It’s pretty chill.
Hmm. No comments on the article by anyone thus far…
True that. ..
Wait, there are articles that go along with the comments section?
Yes.
But thanks to a few newer posters, there are ‘disappearing’ comments sections for some articles.
It is not just new posters, there are some that have been on here for years. People who have got comments shut down include:
Jon, Jack, Bob, helpingout, and Craig.
So only one new poster, and he is using the tactics Craig, Agent, and yourself used last year so I wonder if he was reading last year, but just not posting in the comments.
Boomers, you just get me. :)
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Includes you Planet.
And it especially includes you Bob, you were named. Don’t try to deflect your blame by indicating cap is also a part of it. While it may be true, you are part of the issue on this site now.
I can take my share of the blame, but Cap has actually been pretty darn civil. The worst I’ve seen him do is post quotes of things someone has actually said on this board previously that show their hypocrisy. Pretty great, imo.