what’s the opposite of a vegan? I’m that. If you tally up all the vegetables I’ve eaten over my lifetime, then technically you can say I’ve eaten a salad.
Now excuse my while I finish my glass of bacon grease and go find someone to sue.
Veganism is a religious food law like Kosher or Halal. Burger King should have realized this, no matter how ridiculous the Vegan law is. Religions are full of taboos. You’re going to have a sixteen week purification ritual for eating that burger cooked on that grill. Oh, that and a lawsuit. Since I am not Vegan, I might just try one of those burgers.
I’ve tried Beyond Meat and The Impossible Burger. Both are tasty alternatives if you have a meat restricted diet due to health concerns. This isn’t just about vegans. It isn’t just about vegetarians. People have serious health consequences for coming into contact with foods they aren’t supposed to. Are we going to start ripping on kids with peanut allergies because they can’t eat candy made in the same factory as peanut butter cups?
What damages or injuries were claimed in the suit? While a big stretch, looks like BK may need to use new grills for cooking the Impossible Whopper or add further discosures.
Very informative, thanks Andrew! For those who may not click the link:
10. On behalf of himself and the proposed Class defined below, Plaintiff seeks an injunction requiring Defendant to plainly disclose that the Impossible Whopper is cooked on the
same grill as its other meat; that Burger King’s future marketing of its Impossible Whopper comply with Florida’s Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act and common laws; as well as an award of actual and compensatory damages to the Class, together with costs and reasonable attorneys’ fees.
Both Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger are not meant for the microwave. These aren’t your normal veggie burgers that taste closer to a hockey puck. I was first intrigued when I quoted Beyond Meat. They are quite good and cook up like animal protein.
This is quite newsworthy for readers on this site that are involved with insuring restaurants. I manage a small business product and I read all I can about issues for which our insureds may be sued. Even frivolous lawsuits may cost us money in providing a defense. Understanding our exposures is vital when setting rates and underwriting rules.
No, don’t think we can do that. But if this suit is successful, it may cause us to think about how we underwrite restaurants. Will have to wait and see.
“Vegans love to say ‘Humans are the only animals that drink the milk of other animals.’ ooohhh, crazy…You know what else people do? Fly planes. Make movies. Call each other on the phone to tell each other how awesome milk is. Shut up, vegan.”
–Joe Rogan
There are some people with afflictions that have been advised to avoid red meat. There are those with gout and other conditions that can have painful reactions to being exposed to certain meat/food products. It isn’t always be some “religious choice” there are patrons purchasing or avoiding the product. So, yes, this claim has merit.
Bambi is in the fridge to age 5-7 days before he is put away for fine dining later.
Yep, as typical the lawyers will drive up the cost of food like everything else they sue. While they get rich, it’s the little guy that pays the piper.
I think your basement boy comment proves Jon’s assertion regarding self awareness. You have made it seem you are a boomer. Boomers inherited a very healthy economy where their starting salaries were in today’s money greater than $65,000 a year. The minimum wage is equivalent to someone today making $13.75 an hour as well.
Millennials work more hours, spend less money, and work more jobs, yet the overall fiscal wealth they hold is 3% where at the same time boomers had 21%. This should be alarming to Boomers as it shows the fruit of the selfish policies you were behind for the most part. Jack, if you cannot see the benefit you had being a boomer rather than today’s generation, you are part of the issue.
flawedlogic- i see where you get your name, I was making $24,000 a year in 2005 with a stay at home wife, 3 kids under 7, and 2 houses. Get off your ass and make something of yourself, stop blaming others like your generation has a habit of doing.
Gotta run now- office party tonight. Cheers all you winners out there, you can do it. The rest, well continue to blame others and Bernie 2020.
I see your lack of knowledge is astounding. So you are not a boomer, or you were a late working boomer. So you are generation X, the generation who started participation trophies that are attributed to millennials.
Again, you overall lack of understanding on how the world has changed fiscally and work wise is it mind boggling you run your own company.
It isn’t blaming other generations, but the overall wage growth is lagging far behind the cost of living, on top of everything else. But yes, pointing real world differences in a generations situation is just whining, it doesn’t show the complete lack of corporate responsibility as their taxes have been lowered, rather than paying employees more that do the work, you just give more to your shareholders and executives.
I see why you don’t understand my name, you cannot comprehend your own logic. I would read more about the dunning kruger effect, I think you might find something about regarding yourself.
I don’t see anywhere that BK claimed the item was “vegan” just that it was meatless, so this is meritless in my opinion. I don’t subscribe to any food “religions” other than to eat whatever I want, but I understand that there are different “levels” of isms, vegetarian, vegan, pescatorian…etc., that all vary the way they don’t eat meat. So I believe anyone that follows strict vegan diet would not expect something to be vegan if it is not labeled vegan.
The reality is, the term vegan implies absolutely no animal byproducts (as opposed to vegetarian). If Burger King are making claims of their Impossible Whopper being “Vegan,” but are actually using the same griddle that beef burgers are being cooked on, then the claim of being Vegan is indisputably false. However, I don’t recall BK ever making claims that their burger was Vegan? The term Vegetarian is pretty ambiguous. For example, many vegetarians will eat eggs and milk (animal byproducts) but just refrain from animal meat. The Impossible Burger does not contain animal meat…
Plaintiff claims 0% Beef is false as it is grilled on the same grill as other meats (beef, chicken, sausage) thus it contains meat by-products.
The question: does 0% BEEF mean 0% meat by products?
Truth is if BK is trying to attract vegans & vegetarians they need to do better. This may not be a winning lawsuit but it’s a very fair and important challenge for hose who ascribe to a veg lifestyle.
I’m a vegetarian and I follow you, but tell this to the largely meat market and the corporations. Unless majority of eaters are vegetarian, there would always be “small” incidents like this. Sad to say.
what’s the opposite of a vegan? I’m that. If you tally up all the vegetables I’ve eaten over my lifetime, then technically you can say I’ve eaten a salad.
Now excuse my while I finish my glass of bacon grease and go find someone to sue.
Veganism is a religious food law like Kosher or Halal. Burger King should have realized this, no matter how ridiculous the Vegan law is. Religions are full of taboos. You’re going to have a sixteen week purification ritual for eating that burger cooked on that grill. Oh, that and a lawsuit. Since I am not Vegan, I might just try one of those burgers.
If it looks like meat, smells like meat, and tastes like meat, than it better be meat or I am suing them.
I’ve tried Beyond Meat and The Impossible Burger. Both are tasty alternatives if you have a meat restricted diet due to health concerns. This isn’t just about vegans. It isn’t just about vegetarians. People have serious health consequences for coming into contact with foods they aren’t supposed to. Are we going to start ripping on kids with peanut allergies because they can’t eat candy made in the same factory as peanut butter cups?
Someone went to Burger King with the assumption of receiving healthy food. Irony Noted.
False equivalency alert. We are talking about adults here. Don’t bring up kids in an attempt to garner sympathy.
Making vegetables taste like beef? Big deal. Cows have been doing that forever . . .
I don’t vote on this site, but if I did, I’d give you a +1 for this comment.
What damages or injuries were claimed in the suit? While a big stretch, looks like BK may need to use new grills for cooking the Impossible Whopper or add further discosures.
Here is a link to the complaint:
https://www.insurancejournal.com/app/uploads/2019/11/williams-v-burger-king.pdf
Very informative, thanks Andrew! For those who may not click the link:
10. On behalf of himself and the proposed Class defined below, Plaintiff seeks an injunction requiring Defendant to plainly disclose that the Impossible Whopper is cooked on the
same grill as its other meat; that Burger King’s future marketing of its Impossible Whopper comply with Florida’s Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act and common laws; as well as an award of actual and compensatory damages to the Class, together with costs and reasonable attorneys’ fees.
Stick ’em in the microwave – problem solved…
Both Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger are not meant for the microwave. These aren’t your normal veggie burgers that taste closer to a hockey puck. I was first intrigued when I quoted Beyond Meat. They are quite good and cook up like animal protein.
I am so glad our clogged up court system is spending its time on this!
Burger King should just stick to its roots — burgers — and let the vegans come up with their own means and methods for wanting to eat a burger!
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This is quite newsworthy for readers on this site that are involved with insuring restaurants. I manage a small business product and I read all I can about issues for which our insureds may be sued. Even frivolous lawsuits may cost us money in providing a defense. Understanding our exposures is vital when setting rates and underwriting rules.
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No, don’t think we can do that. But if this suit is successful, it may cause us to think about how we underwrite restaurants. Will have to wait and see.
Agent, what about just normal vegetarians? Why is everyone missing it isn’t just vegans who are impacted by this false advertising?
BK’s fries are very good. cooked in some kind of oil
“Vegans love to say ‘Humans are the only animals that drink the milk of other animals.’ ooohhh, crazy…You know what else people do? Fly planes. Make movies. Call each other on the phone to tell each other how awesome milk is. Shut up, vegan.”
–Joe Rogan
There are some people with afflictions that have been advised to avoid red meat. There are those with gout and other conditions that can have painful reactions to being exposed to certain meat/food products. It isn’t always be some “religious choice” there are patrons purchasing or avoiding the product. So, yes, this claim has merit.
Then don’t go to BURGER KING. If you’re that sensitive or ill you don’t go to the restaurant. The world isn’t going to cater to anyone.
Sorry, have to leave early today to kill bambi. I’ll get back to this tomorrow.
Mark me thoroughly impressed by how cool you are.
Well…don’t care.
Bambi is in the fridge to age 5-7 days before he is put away for fine dining later.
Yep, as typical the lawyers will drive up the cost of food like everything else they sue. While they get rich, it’s the little guy that pays the piper.
I think your basement boy comment proves Jon’s assertion regarding self awareness. You have made it seem you are a boomer. Boomers inherited a very healthy economy where their starting salaries were in today’s money greater than $65,000 a year. The minimum wage is equivalent to someone today making $13.75 an hour as well.
Millennials work more hours, spend less money, and work more jobs, yet the overall fiscal wealth they hold is 3% where at the same time boomers had 21%. This should be alarming to Boomers as it shows the fruit of the selfish policies you were behind for the most part. Jack, if you cannot see the benefit you had being a boomer rather than today’s generation, you are part of the issue.
flawedlogic- i see where you get your name, I was making $24,000 a year in 2005 with a stay at home wife, 3 kids under 7, and 2 houses. Get off your ass and make something of yourself, stop blaming others like your generation has a habit of doing.
Gotta run now- office party tonight. Cheers all you winners out there, you can do it. The rest, well continue to blame others and Bernie 2020.
I see your lack of knowledge is astounding. So you are not a boomer, or you were a late working boomer. So you are generation X, the generation who started participation trophies that are attributed to millennials.
Again, you overall lack of understanding on how the world has changed fiscally and work wise is it mind boggling you run your own company.
It isn’t blaming other generations, but the overall wage growth is lagging far behind the cost of living, on top of everything else. But yes, pointing real world differences in a generations situation is just whining, it doesn’t show the complete lack of corporate responsibility as their taxes have been lowered, rather than paying employees more that do the work, you just give more to your shareholders and executives.
I see why you don’t understand my name, you cannot comprehend your own logic. I would read more about the dunning kruger effect, I think you might find something about regarding yourself.
OK Boomer
I don’t see anywhere that BK claimed the item was “vegan” just that it was meatless, so this is meritless in my opinion. I don’t subscribe to any food “religions” other than to eat whatever I want, but I understand that there are different “levels” of isms, vegetarian, vegan, pescatorian…etc., that all vary the way they don’t eat meat. So I believe anyone that follows strict vegan diet would not expect something to be vegan if it is not labeled vegan.
The reality is, the term vegan implies absolutely no animal byproducts (as opposed to vegetarian). If Burger King are making claims of their Impossible Whopper being “Vegan,” but are actually using the same griddle that beef burgers are being cooked on, then the claim of being Vegan is indisputably false. However, I don’t recall BK ever making claims that their burger was Vegan? The term Vegetarian is pretty ambiguous. For example, many vegetarians will eat eggs and milk (animal byproducts) but just refrain from animal meat. The Impossible Burger does not contain animal meat…
Plaintiff claims 0% Beef is false as it is grilled on the same grill as other meats (beef, chicken, sausage) thus it contains meat by-products.
The question: does 0% BEEF mean 0% meat by products?
Truth is if BK is trying to attract vegans & vegetarians they need to do better. This may not be a winning lawsuit but it’s a very fair and important challenge for hose who ascribe to a veg lifestyle.
I’m a vegetarian and I follow you, but tell this to the largely meat market and the corporations. Unless majority of eaters are vegetarian, there would always be “small” incidents like this. Sad to say.