“But so far, court records show few such cases have been filed and some legal experts say the threat of liability is exaggerated because of the difficulty of proving where someone was infected.”
These clowns know what is coming: an avalanche of shakedown lawsuits, just like with employment practices in California, where so many claims are just fraudulent. But that doesn’t stop the lawyers from demanding $25,000. to go away, knowing the cost of defending a phony claim is greater than $25,000.
Where’s your data to back up your claim that “so many claims” are fraudulent? Yes, there are fraudulent claims on every line. Do you have actual data to back up your statements? Because as noted, you will lie to make an argument sound better, so try to present some facts.
We’re here to help our clients protect their livelihood. If you have a problem with that maybe you should go into a line of work more suited to your skills. Something that involves yelling lies at people, maybe?
Jon, How long have you been in this business? Why would a person involved in P&C insurance need data to prove the volume of fraudulent claims? Maybe you are a one person agency with no volume and no commercial business? You must not know what is going on with BAP’s these days and the umbrellas that extend over them. In an office of 48 people we see FRAUDULENT business auto claims several times a year.
I have been in the industry about four years. Not a long time, certainly. But enough to know that I don’t keep track of the percentage of fraudulent claims on a specific line of insurance off the top of my head. Do you? Personally I don’t deal with claims, we have a department for that. I am aware of sometimes interesting or fraudulent claims, but by and large that’s handled in a silo.
That’s great, but as I noted above, Craig has been extremely dishonest in his posting habits on this board. He exaggerates, he misrepresents, and he outright lies if it helps his argument. If someone has been caught lying multiple times as Craig has, do you truly believe his word on the percentage of claims that are fraudulent without any data to back it up?
Here’s another one. It’s SUPER easy to research things. I post links to back up my claims all the time. Why can’t he? If he knows the data’s there, what’s so hard about posting it? That’s the problem here. Craig makes constant claims that he refuses to verify which are often false.
I’m more than aware of the hardening auto and excess markets right now, as well as the hardening management lines market. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Just because you don’t like me doesn’t mean I’m not knowledgeable in my industry or capable of talking smack on here and writing more business than half the right-wing lunatic old guard that regularly troll these boards.
I would wait to pass judgment until after the courts are back open and fully operational. For instance, a plaintiff doesn’t really have to prove causation against a particular manufacturer in a Mesothelioma case. They just have to allege possible exposure to that manufacturer’s asbestos containing product.
One of the reasons why there haven’t been as many lawsuits as the journalist would have liked is that many states have a very long statute of limitations. In my state it’s six years so these lawsuits don’t have to be filed until May of 2026 so you can imagine the number of lawsuits that will be filed against businesses by then will be very high unless an immunity is granted. As noted earlier, many of these lawsuits will be shakedown type suits where the lawyer just wants walking away money. And they make money by volume.
Cruise Lines are uniquely exposed to these types of lawsuits since their employees are confined to a contained environment which makes it easier for a plaintiff lawyer to prove that their client was exposed on the ship. This is not case with other business where it can be argued that plaintiff was exposed at home, the beach, bar, gym, grocery etc.
God, you gotta love lawyers. From the article:
“But so far, court records show few such cases have been filed and some legal experts say the threat of liability is exaggerated because of the difficulty of proving where someone was infected.”
These clowns know what is coming: an avalanche of shakedown lawsuits, just like with employment practices in California, where so many claims are just fraudulent. But that doesn’t stop the lawyers from demanding $25,000. to go away, knowing the cost of defending a phony claim is greater than $25,000.
And THAT is what businesses are worried about.
Where’s your data to back up your claim that “so many claims” are fraudulent? Yes, there are fraudulent claims on every line. Do you have actual data to back up your statements? Because as noted, you will lie to make an argument sound better, so try to present some facts.
We’re here to help our clients protect their livelihood. If you have a problem with that maybe you should go into a line of work more suited to your skills. Something that involves yelling lies at people, maybe?
No one is surprised that this is all you have to say for yourself, boring.
Jon, How long have you been in this business? Why would a person involved in P&C insurance need data to prove the volume of fraudulent claims? Maybe you are a one person agency with no volume and no commercial business? You must not know what is going on with BAP’s these days and the umbrellas that extend over them. In an office of 48 people we see FRAUDULENT business auto claims several times a year.
I have been in the industry about four years. Not a long time, certainly. But enough to know that I don’t keep track of the percentage of fraudulent claims on a specific line of insurance off the top of my head. Do you? Personally I don’t deal with claims, we have a department for that. I am aware of sometimes interesting or fraudulent claims, but by and large that’s handled in a silo.
That’s great, but as I noted above, Craig has been extremely dishonest in his posting habits on this board. He exaggerates, he misrepresents, and he outright lies if it helps his argument. If someone has been caught lying multiple times as Craig has, do you truly believe his word on the percentage of claims that are fraudulent without any data to back it up?
Here’s another one. It’s SUPER easy to research things. I post links to back up my claims all the time. Why can’t he? If he knows the data’s there, what’s so hard about posting it? That’s the problem here. Craig makes constant claims that he refuses to verify which are often false.
I’m more than aware of the hardening auto and excess markets right now, as well as the hardening management lines market. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Just because you don’t like me doesn’t mean I’m not knowledgeable in my industry or capable of talking smack on here and writing more business than half the right-wing lunatic old guard that regularly troll these boards.
I would wait to pass judgment until after the courts are back open and fully operational. For instance, a plaintiff doesn’t really have to prove causation against a particular manufacturer in a Mesothelioma case. They just have to allege possible exposure to that manufacturer’s asbestos containing product.
One of the reasons why there haven’t been as many lawsuits as the journalist would have liked is that many states have a very long statute of limitations. In my state it’s six years so these lawsuits don’t have to be filed until May of 2026 so you can imagine the number of lawsuits that will be filed against businesses by then will be very high unless an immunity is granted. As noted earlier, many of these lawsuits will be shakedown type suits where the lawyer just wants walking away money. And they make money by volume.
Cruise Lines are uniquely exposed to these types of lawsuits since their employees are confined to a contained environment which makes it easier for a plaintiff lawyer to prove that their client was exposed on the ship. This is not case with other business where it can be argued that plaintiff was exposed at home, the beach, bar, gym, grocery etc.