Coronavirus Lockdowns Substantially Slowed the Pandemic, Research Says

June 8, 2020

  • June 8, 2020 at 12:49 pm
    Craig Winston Cornell says:
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    • June 8, 2020 at 12:54 pm
      Jon says:
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      LOL of course you would try to say it’s not news, it refutes everything you’ve been arguing for weeks. OH REALLY? We ALL knew the lockdowns would delay infections and deaths? You were arguing the opposite for weeks. Funny how a dishonest person like you can lie and try to twist the truth though huh? Or are you going to try and convince us that you’re not lying this time, just all those other times. Like when you tried to lie and say you were a black man. Or when you lied and said there were recreation-only pot dispensaries in California.

      LOL a goalpost shift and a straw-man in the same comment, you really will say anything to try and keep spreading your right-wing propaganda. The coronavirus info is out there, we’ve all seen you lie, we all know your days are numbered. See you in November!

      • June 8, 2020 at 2:14 pm
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        I NEVER said the lock downs would not delay infections. I said EXACTLY that, that they WOULD delay infections and deaths.

        And I also pointed out that until every country and every state was open again for months, no one could say if we had avoided deaths. Which is still true.

        Man, you are one corrupt human. (You forgot to call me a racist again, by the way.)

        • June 8, 2020 at 2:22 pm
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          You tried to say that lockdown would ONLY delay infections. We know now that that was incorrect, it also did PREVENT infections and deaths, which you keep trying to deny. You’re trying to make it seem like everything done only DELAYED, and that is plain not true.

          Every state and country with far fewer infections and deaths than us was open again for months? You’re not actually arguing anything real.

          How exactly am I corrupt, because I keep pointing out your racism and lies? You are a racist, Craig, I’m happy to keep calling you one. Remember when you lied and said you were a black man? Then switched to trying to make us believe you had “lots of black friends” and that they “all hate democrats”? LOL lies upon lies upon lies at your house huh?

          • June 8, 2020 at 2:40 pm
            Craig Winston Cornell says:
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            There is no evidence the lock down PREVENTED infections.

            THAT is exactly what this article said. “prevented OR delayed”. Meaning it might be 100% delayed, since Berkeley makes no distinction.

            If the lock down prevented ANY infections and didn’t just delay them, then why is the article not clear? Because they don’t know.

          • June 8, 2020 at 3:39 pm
            Jon says:
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            People who actually know what they’re talking about call Craig a liar, news at 11!

            cnbc.com/2020/06/08/lockdowns-prevented-nearly-5-million-us-coronavirus-cases-study-says.html

            foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-lockdowns-prevented-60m-infections-us

            Plenty of articles say otherwise, and with your history of lying on these boards I’m going to side with the articles.

    • June 8, 2020 at 1:15 pm
      Jon says:
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      Your post contains another lie.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-children-un/u-n-warns-economic-downturn-could-kill-hundreds-of-thousands-of-children-in-2020-idUSKBN21Y2X7

      The recession wasn’t created by these policies, it was created by a global pandemic. You are trying to draw leaps that are bafflingly dishonest, even for you. This may trump your previous lies, like that there are recreation-only dispensaries, or that you’re a black man. You keep lying, I’ll be right here to point it out.

      • June 8, 2020 at 2:15 pm
        craig cornell says:
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        One of the dumber posts of all time. The pandemic was like the flu with faster transmission, and the flu never creates recessions. The government ordered shut down of businesses created the recession.

        • June 8, 2020 at 2:24 pm
          Jon says:
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          You are not a virologist, you are incorrect, and calling my post dumb doesn’t refute that your post contained a lie.

          You said the united nations said 1,000,000. children will die from the recession created by these policies. That is not what they said. My article proves this. Keep trying that weak straw-man fallacy, you still got caught telling yet another lie, nothing changes that dummy.

          • June 8, 2020 at 2:45 pm
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            From the article you posted:

            “The United Nations said an estimated 42 million to 66 million children could fall into extreme poverty as a result of the coronavirus crisis this year, adding to the estimated 386 million children already in extreme poverty in 2019.”

            Hundreds of thousands of dead children. Jon: “who cares?”

          • June 8, 2020 at 2:53 pm
            Jon says:
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            LOL and you tried to blame the lockdowns and nothing but the lockdowns for the woes of impoverished children, how exactly does you lying about the cause of their misfortune benefit these children? What exactly have you said that shows you care? Not a thing, and your actions certainly don’t. Craven attempts to shift blame from president Bunker Bitch don’t show concern for the children, troll.

      • June 8, 2020 at 2:16 pm
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        And why is it you don’t care about the deaths of 1,000,000. children?

  • June 8, 2020 at 1:35 pm
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    I hope shelter in place saved lives (98% over 70) because drug, alcohol, suicide have equaled or exceeded corona-virus deaths not to mentioned homeless deaths have tripled due to lack of services (not the coronavirus) and domestic abuse has increased to an all time high.
    Last I heard the cost was 8M per life saved.

    • June 8, 2020 at 1:39 pm
      Jon says:
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      Where’s your evidence that drug, alcohol and suicide have equaled or exceeded corona virus deaths? Even with homeless, I have not seen that reported anywhere. Can you cite your source?

    • June 8, 2020 at 1:42 pm
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      I would say differently: Please cite your source, because your estimates seem extremely exaggerated if not outright false.

    • June 8, 2020 at 2:29 pm
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      Did you even read the study? They base it purely on the unemployment rate. The study itself says 68,000, so for one your article is incorrect. Second, they base it on data from the great recession, which was from an entirely different source than a NON preventable worldwide pandemic. There may certainly be lives lost due to these issues, but the data also says there would be way more lives lost if no lockdowns had occurred. Again, you don’t have the data on your side. so I guess it’s back to petty insults and straw-man fallacies? You’re just so bad at this LOL even when you post a link it doesn’t win you an argument.

      • June 8, 2020 at 2:47 pm
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        Are you in competition to collect the most Down votes? The article said 75,000. will die.

        Jon: “whatever”.

        • June 8, 2020 at 3:44 pm
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          LOL he says with 7 downvotes on that post. I couldn’t take your title if I tried, Craig. People just naturally don’t like you, and we both know exactly why.

      • June 8, 2020 at 2:49 pm
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        Denial is not just a river

        • June 8, 2020 at 3:17 pm
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          You sure do not conduct your self in a very professional manner. Personal attacks! Really!!

  • June 8, 2020 at 3:02 pm
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    welp, time to shut THIS comment thread down. so much for civility. SHEESH.

    Stay safe, everybody!

    • June 8, 2020 at 3:04 pm
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      It’s not going to stop unfortunately. I really believe Craig is just maliciously trying to spread right-wing propaganda. As soon as you point out that he’s lying or wrong he turns to petty attacks to try and erase any evidence. I’m not going to back down and neither is he. I honestly don’t know why the mods let it happen. You have one person arguing with lies, one person without. Ban us both even, but that’s preferable to Craig’s trash being left on here IMO.

  • June 8, 2020 at 3:15 pm
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    https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

    The World Health Organization define ‘excess mortality’ as:

    “Mortality above what would be expected based on the non-crisis mortality rate in the population of interest. Excess mortality is thus mortality that is attributable to the crisis conditions. It can be expressed as a rate (the difference between observed and non-crisis mortality rates), or as a total number of excess deaths.”

    • June 8, 2020 at 3:26 pm
      Jon says:
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      That link doesn’t show that per your quote .

      “drug, alcohol, suicide have equaled or exceeded corona-virus deaths not to mentioned homeless deaths have tripled due to lack of services”

      That’s what you said, since you appear to need the reminder. So you’re just switching your argument now because you can’t prove what you said instead of admitting that you lied? You’ll fit in great with Craig and Polar.

      • June 8, 2020 at 4:21 pm
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        Jon, Obviously the only reason you are on this site is to stir it up. I am not going to throw up 20 articles to make my point. nor should I have to. I am sure your a big boy and can look it up. I must presume you are not so sheltered you have not heard of any of this. The one link I did post are world wide numbers which should give you a clue. My point was not an argument but a point of discussion which I know some are just not capable of having. Wishing you the best.



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