Mississippi Supreme Court to Hear Grocery Store Parking Lot Beating

January 23, 2012

  • January 23, 2012 at 2:08 pm
    reality bites says:
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    INSANITY prevails. Come on, an armed guard in the parking lot? What a ridiculous presumption of safety. Shame on the jury of me, women and idiots for hitting the deep pocket.

    Now, if it were in the restroom, or if employees turned a blind eye, or there was price gouging, I could see this lawsuit going forward. But how far outside the store is outside the store? Until I am home with my big old shopping bags?

  • January 23, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    The Other Point of View says:
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    I’ve been to many other countries where the armed guards are on the outside of the building. It makes sense if you think about it…armed guards outside near the entrance warns would-be robbers before they even get inside the store that the place is guarded. Plus, it adds some protection to those outside, in the store parking lot. I wouldn’t worry about how far outside the store is outside the store. The parking lot seems like a resonable boundry since the stores own or lease the parking lots and invite their customers to use them.

    • January 23, 2012 at 2:43 pm
      reality bites says:
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      “I’ve been to many other countries…”. I think the security is there to make sure the store itself doesn’t get hit. The philosophy is that customers can be easilty replaced, but stolen stock is a PD/BI claim waiting to happen.

      OK so let’s say a grocery store has maybe what ONE main entrance / exit and can easily be patrolled by one off-duty policeman or a Paul Blart.

      How does one effectively patrol a 50,000′ sq parking lot with multiple entrances and exits and a LOT of hidey-hole places between the vehicles? Key word is “effectively”. You could put a half dozen roamers or two guys in golf carts, then add a lot at 105% capacity and then HOPE it works per plan.

      In the meantime, costs go up without measurable benefit except for the lack of defense expenses. I dont see it.

      Or are you just taking the OPOV to be contrarian? :)

      • January 23, 2012 at 3:58 pm
        The Other Point of View says:
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        No, not trying to be contrarian, but just offering a view others might not have thought about.

        Forget about the foreign contry example for a minute. What if the evidence was that there had been seven prior assaults in the store’s parking lot and none in the store itself. The store owner, knowing that there was a growing problem, hired an additional security guard, but posted him in the store, instead of out in the parking lot somehwere. What would that do to your analysis?

        Security booths in the middle of parking lots are not unhead of.

        • January 23, 2012 at 5:18 pm
          DBP says:
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          I’m from Oakland, and the grocery stores,(large chain stores) have guards in the parking lots.

  • January 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm
    Bill says:
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    Don’t worry about the attacker. If the new govnernor is like the one that just left office, he will be out of prison in a couple of years anyway!

  • January 23, 2012 at 3:15 pm
    Wayne says:
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    I have a novel idea, why doesn’t the community hire armed guards to protect people while they are out in public instead of the individual shop owners hiring them; we could call them ‘POLICE OFFICERS’.

    • January 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm
      Bob says:
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      Unfortunately, police mostly respond to incdents that have taken place. The saying “When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes” is true. Police officers can’t protect me or anyone else all the time.

  • January 23, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    Pete G says:
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    Two points:

    1) The security culture is different in Jackson, MS; it is not uncommon to see armed guards in the parking lots. The level of violence may rise to a foreseeable level for the business owner(though this repungnant to say).

    2) @Wayne – The U.S. Supreme Court is clear that police do not have a legal duty to protect any person, last made clear in the 2004 Castle Rock v. Gonzales case.

  • January 26, 2012 at 1:51 pm
    Vinnie Goomba says:
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    Welcome to the world we live in, folks.



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