Florida Gov. Scott Facing Rising Seas, Climate Change Politics

By | November 17, 2014

  • November 17, 2014 at 9:08 am
    JFC says:
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    Save taxpayer’s money AND defund climate change and environmental destruction by ending the enormous subsidies and tax breaks for animal agriculture!

    With 60+ BILLION food animals on the planet our best chance to mitigate climate change is to severely reduce consumption of animal foods. More than 1/3 of human induced warming is attributable to animal agriculture. Methane is 24 times more potent than CO2 but takes only 7 years to cycle out of the atmosphere. CO2 takes around 100 years to come out. Human pursuit of animal protein is the leading cause of methane release and a primary cause of CO2 concentrating in the atmosphere. Check the facts and act!

    “As environmental science has advanced, it has become apparent that the human appetite for animal flesh is a driving force behind virtually every major category of environmental damage now threatening the human future: deforestation, erosion, fresh water scarcity, air and water pollution, climate change, biodiversity loss, social injustice, the destabilization of communities, and the spread of disease.” Worldwatch Institute, “Is Meat Sustainable?”

    “If every American skipped one meal of chicken per week and substituted vegetables and grains… the carbon dioxide savings would be the same as taking more than half a million cars off of U.S. roads.” Environmental Defense Fund

    “A 1% reduction in world-wide meat intake has the same benefit as a three trillion-dollar investment in solar energy.” ~ Chris Mentzel, CEO of Clean Energy

    • November 18, 2014 at 1:36 pm
      FLagent/insured says:
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      This is true but then again, nobody wants to hear the truth. And as soon as Americans realize that China cant uphold emission standards and still manufactor all the cheap stuff we like to buy then they wont be so quick to applaud Obama. Oh I am a diehard, conservative republican.

      • November 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm
        Agent says:
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        Well, we have had a succession of bogus terms for weather issues. First, Al Gore with Global Warming. When that didn’t pan out due to scandals, change it to Climate Change with it being man’s fault. Now, the record snowfall in Buffalo with 6 feet of snow and growing is due to the “Lake Effect” with the water in the Great Lakes being warmer than the air causing the blizzard. I am sure they will blame man for pouring warm water into the lakes which causes record snowfall. By the way, Buffalo always seems to lead the nation in snow accumulation as far as I can remember.

        • November 20, 2014 at 11:24 am
          Libby says:
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          Agent, the uneducated one, the “Lake Effect” is a real weather phenomenon (check with your buddy that founded the Weather Channel). Nobody said anything about it being man made but you. Quit being such a moron.

  • November 17, 2014 at 11:38 am
    James says:
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    Another California left wing billionaire tries to defeat the local guy. Typical.

    • November 17, 2014 at 2:31 pm
      James says:
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      Why would anyone dislike my comment? Is it not true?

  • November 17, 2014 at 1:34 pm
    FLagent/insured says:
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    What I want to know is how much control does Tallahassee have over the rising sea levels? As a generational native Floridian, we’ve known for decades that parts of Florida may one day be underwater and that was before any of the so called global warming came to light. The only thing that can be done is not to build in certain areas, of which it is too late for that now. I voted for amend 1 because Florida depends on its natural resources and I feel the ones that are left should be protected. But I think the deal Obama struck with China is stupid, who really thinks China is going to hold up their end of the bargain.

    • November 17, 2014 at 2:34 pm
      SWFL Agent says:
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      Agree, Fl is a great place because of our natural resources. China can’t build cheap stuff or build stuff cheaply if they adhered to the pollution standards we’ve put into place. They don’t care about their own environment, much less the rest of the world.

      • November 18, 2014 at 1:32 pm
        FLagent/insured says:
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        No China doesnt care but we take as much blame for this as they do, perhaps more. We are the purchasers of the cheap stuff and our business’s go over there to manufactor it.

        • November 18, 2014 at 6:07 pm
          Agent says:
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          I believe GM has at least 7 manufacturing plants over there now. Chances are if you are driving a GM car, it was probably made in China.

    • November 17, 2014 at 6:17 pm
      Agent says:
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      What a deal struck by our Negotiator in Chief! We have to reduce emissions 25% by 2025 and China doesn’t have to do anything until 2030, if at all. Nothing to see here, just move on.

      • November 18, 2014 at 9:08 am
        Libby says:
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        Agent – Considering China is starting from ground zero, wouldn’t you think they need a little more time to comply?

        • November 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm
          Agent says:
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          No Libby. This deal is between two super powers and should be equal for reducing emissions. Obama is so clueless it is ridiculous. Why didn’t he appoint Al Gore to negotiate the deal? Good old Al could have shown them his film and pointed out the bad air in Beijing and I am sure the Chinese would do just as he asked, right?

          • November 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm
            Libby says:
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            Agent – China doesn’t qualify as a super power. Mainly because they are still backward in so many ways; including being green. They will have to do massive retrofits that the U.S. has already been doing for years. They will certainly need more time to bring their stuff up to speed.

          • November 18, 2014 at 5:36 pm
            Agent says:
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            Libby, you are amazing in your ignorance. China is about to exceed the US in a few short years in GNP, they have a very large Army and Navy and they make about everything we buy from them. What part of your brain does not get that they are a super power? They are all about producing energy by whatever means are necessary even if the environment is ruined for them or their neighbors. If this is a serious discussion, they should pledge a 25% reduction in emissions just like we are. You are letting them off the hook without them doing anything bozo. By the way, you should google Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong and see how backward they are.

          • November 19, 2014 at 8:12 am
            Libby says:
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            Look up the definition of super power and learn something, Agent.

          • November 19, 2014 at 4:06 pm
            Always Amazed says:
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            Have you seen China’s version of our Stealth bomber? There is nothing backward about China. Truth is they just don’t give a crap about the environment, human rights or animal rights. They, along with the USA are the biggest culprits in the illegal ivory trade and that makes my blood boil. China will NEVER clean up their act because they don’t care and never will. Give them more time – you have got to be kidding.

        • November 18, 2014 at 4:28 pm
          Texlander says:
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          China is not starting from ground zero. Many of their pollution generating plants have the appropriate pollution control equipment installed, the plant managers choose not to use them because the equipment is expensive to maintain and cuts into their production time.
          All of which cuts into their ability to meet the goals set by the government.

  • November 18, 2014 at 4:42 pm
    Texlander says:
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    If China is not a superpower than what are the qualifications to become one?
    Do they not have a superior military force that influences lessor countries? And challenges other super powers?
    Do they not have a space program that has gone to the moon and is sending vehicles to Mars?
    Are they not a economic super power that can effect the worlds economies with its capital?
    Do they not influence third world countries with investments?
    Do they not have nuclear ballistic missiles, and advanced weapons on par with other super powers?
    Have they not transformed from an agricultural society to an industrial society, and now are entering into the age of technology? In a very short time.
    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck!

    • November 18, 2014 at 5:37 pm
      Agent says:
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      Good one Texlander. It is a Mandarin Duck.

      • November 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm
        Always Amazed says:
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        Someone sure is delusional.

    • November 19, 2014 at 8:16 am
      Libby says:
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      “The term ‘Potential superpowers’ has been applied by scholars and other qualified commentators to the possibility of several states achieving superpower status in the 21st century. Due to their large markets, growing military strength, economic potential and influence in international affairs; China,[46][47][48] the European Union[49][50] and India[51][52][53] are among the countries (or political entities) most cited as having the potential of achieving superpower status in the 21st century. However it is far from certain that some or all of these countries will ever emerge as superpowers. A number of historians, writers, critics have expressed doubts.[54][55] Furthermore, some political scientists and other commentators suggest that such countries may simply be emerging powers, as opposed to potential superpowers.[56] Pertinently, a country would need to achieve great power status first, before they could develop superpower status, and it could be disputed whether some of the countries listed above (e.g. India) are presently great powers.”

      Just because you call it a super power doesn’t make it one.

      • November 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm
        Freedom says:
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        Libby, I think there are about 300 million Americans who would disagree with you that China is not a superpower.

        • November 20, 2014 at 10:39 am
          Rosenblatt says:
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          It doesn’t matter how many people agree or disagree – if China doesn’t meet the actual definition of a super power, then they technically aren’t a super power.

          • November 20, 2014 at 11:26 am
            Libby says:
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            Rosenblatt, quit using logic on these people! They don’t understand it.

        • November 20, 2014 at 12:01 pm
          Always Amazed says:
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          They way Obama has been running this country into the ground just because the USA meets your cut and pasted description of “super power” doesn’t change the fact that we are loosing that title and that other countries are now (Russia) taunting us because or reputation has been tarnished. China has been building it’s military more than we have lately and now with their agreement to purchase natural gas from Russia I would think that Russia is going to start building up their military quite nicely too. Just a hunch on my part.

          • November 20, 2014 at 12:01 pm
            Always Amazed says:
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            oops s/b The not they.

          • November 20, 2014 at 12:23 pm
            Libby says:
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            My “cut and paste” definition? Since when are you above cutting and pasting? I remember another thread where you cut and pasted an entire article – word for word.

            I never said China wasn’t on track to become a superpower. Just that they weren’t one yet. Argue with me all you want. I’m used to it.

          • November 20, 2014 at 4:29 pm
            Always Amazed says:
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            I’m not above cut and pasting, Libby. I was just pointing out the fact that you and others do it as well and word for word as well. And I’m not going to argue with China not being or being super power. The fact that our status as a super power has been tarnished by this president is what worries me. And it should worry you as well. Russia is starting to flex its muscles and China wont’ be far behind them.

          • November 21, 2014 at 11:23 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Always – you might be the only person who thinks Russia will be building anything up with the current state of their economy as they’re actually on the brink of a recession.

            http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2014/11/20/347646.htm

          • November 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
            Libby says:
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            AA – I respectfully disagree that you were not arguing with me about China being a superpower or not. You called me delusional.

  • November 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm
    rob K says:
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    well it’s about time lawmakers get involved..the Biggert/Waters Bill of 2012 voted in place by Federal Law ..states that FEMA can no longer subsidize homeowners for flood damage..rather the insurance rates paid must address the costa of damage..in many cases , especially, older homes the yearly costs be four fold of current costa and some estimates are as much as $8000 a year..
    yet lawmakers in many states ..Florida is one have blocked it going into affect by making local laws that could only postpone the costs..and probably hold up payments if there are floods..
    another thing Florida must do is stop just letting new homes be built in dangerous flood zones..
    and one must keep in mind that besides any ‘flood insurance’ Florida homeowner insurance rates are the highest in the continental United States..and currently companies in Florida are in some cases only issuing new policies with large deductables ie..$10,000..then I have read that there is extra costs for ‘sink hole insurance..and wind insurance to cover roofs of buildings..
    so not to be the ‘grom reaper’ but I must say BUYER BEWARE..

  • November 25, 2014 at 1:22 pm
    insurance is fun! says:
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    It sucks to be a Florida Republican governor, doesn’t it? On one hand, you have to deny science to get elected, and then bow down to scientific realities forced on you by actuaries and business in order to stay in office and, yes, plan for your state’s actual safe future.



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