Some Florida Bars, Restaurants Temporarily Close as Virus Cases Rise June 16, 2020 Email This Subscribe to Newsletter Email to a friend Facebook Tweet LinkedIn Print Article Article 21 Comments June 16, 2020 at 1:34 pm Caldude says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Bring on the convention! June 16, 2020 at 5:17 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0But I thought the shut down “saved lives” . . . seems all over the world, things are spiking again. Makes one think the shut down didn’t do a damn thing but just delay some deaths. And create a global recession. June 17, 2020 at 9:51 am Rosenblatt says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Why do you keep forgetting that the purpose of the shut-down was to FLATTEN THE CURVE to ensure our hospitals weren’t overrun by having too many sick people to treat at once? June 17, 2020 at 12:40 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Why do you accuse me of something that isn’t even close to true. I clearly remember that flattening the curve was the ORIGINAL purpose of the shutdown. And then when the hospitals were not over run, the “experts” and politicians continued to advocate for the shut down. Why do you fail to link to FACTS that dispute my claim: there is no evidence that the shut down saved lives. it is all speculation. The hospitals in nearly every community didn’t come close to being over run (except for New York and a couple of other hot spots). And please, for once, don’t go into nit pick mode. It is just so boring. Reasonable estimates are that 70,000. lives have been lost due solely to the lock down, and that only includes domestic violence and suicides. The total numbers are clearly much higher than that. And you absolutely CAN’T prove the shut down saved 70,000. or more lives. We have to wait for the final numbers after re-opening to find out the real results. June 17, 2020 at 12:55 pm Rosenblatt says: Like or Dislike: 0 0If you say “it didn’t do a damn thing” then you are saying it didn’t even flatten the curve since, you know, that’s a thing it did. June 17, 2020 at 1:48 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Prove it. You can’t. June 17, 2020 at 2:22 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0DISHONESTY ALERT businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-lockdowns-compared-to-china-europe-2020-6 Don’t you ever get tired of being proven wrong? Seems to be all that happens around here! June 17, 2020 at 4:28 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0You don’t even know my position. My position was literally “You just said ‘Prove it. You can’t’ and that there’s no way of measuring something” that is entirely false. And then I showed it to be false. Because you lied again. Pretty simple, really. June 17, 2020 at 5:42 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0That’s NOT what the article said. The results of any lock down can ONLY be proven after re-opening. If the death rate does not go up much, the lock down was a waste of time. You need to sue whatever school you went to for malpractice. June 17, 2020 at 7:34 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0MORE EXPERTS! Key word: “estimate”. That means “it ain’t fact”. And there won’t be any facts about the shut down until the economy is fully resumed for a while. June 17, 2020 at 7:36 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Yeah because fascists just love removing power from intellectuals, experts and anyone with a half a brain that might point out the flawed logic and outright lies in their plans. No one is surprised you hate the opinions of experts, Craig. June 16, 2020 at 8:12 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0That’s why the countries that locked down immediately like South Korea have over 100,000 deaths now too. Oh wait. Well I’m sure that explains why India, with over a billion people only has 10,000 deaths! Oh wait. Maybe you’re just not a virologist and you and the Trump cronies that have been pushing reopening just don’t care about human life in the slightest, and the world sees that you and Trump were WRONG and have been WRONG and are STILL WRONG. Yeah, I think we finally nailed it. President trump 200,000 americans dead by November will be his legacy, and the ignorant bigots like you will cry about voter fraud because the real problem is you just can’t admit you’re wrong about anything. Too bad we see you. June 17, 2020 at 9:28 am CL PM says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Jon – what are the 3-4 top things you would do to deal with the pandemic? June 17, 2020 at 1:50 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 01. Blame Trump. 2. Call people racist. 3. Blame Trump. June 17, 2020 at 4:23 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0The experts said we didn’t need masks. And then we did. The experts said Trump rallies would spread Covid 19. Then they said the BLM rallies wouldn’t. The experts said our hospitals were going to be over-run and we would run out of venitalators. And then we didn’t. The experts forced sick elderly people back into nursing homes in New York. You might try thinking for yourself for a change. June 17, 2020 at 4:29 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0You’ve already been proven wrong on the masks front once, you really want to go through this again? You put a whole lot of effort into carefully lying, pretty insidious really. June 17, 2020 at 12:50 pm Craig Winston Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Do you just copy and paste the same comment to every thread? (P.S. India never shut down, but don’t let that get in the way of your rant.) June 17, 2020 at 12:59 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Nope, I just keep posting the same facts because you still don’t have answers to them. And sure, India is spiking and as a country has a problem of testing and reporting. But they’re still behind us in terms of deaths and infections, and you still have no explanation for all the other countries that managed to flatten their curves. Coincidence that your side was pushing to reopen and ignore the lockdown in the first place? I think not. The world sees and continues to see your errors. 200,000 dead by November for sure, Trump’s legacy. June 17, 2020 at 9:49 am Vox says: Like or Dislike: 0 0One wonders if we’ll be facing continual closures ad infinitum until this thing goes away. Vaccine anybody? We cannot keep closing time and again if we ever want to resume our old way of life. The real question is, do we even want to resume our old way of life? Why, oh why did this have to happen in my lifetime? June 17, 2020 at 10:54 am CL PM says: Like or Dislike: 0 0Good questions, Vox. I think we’ll only see something resembling our old normal when there is an effective vaccine in place. You won’t be seeing me at any sports events, concerts, or bars until that happens. A few restaurants around where I live seem to have the proper restrictions in place and I’ll go there. I’m playing golf, biking, and walking. But not much else. June 17, 2020 at 11:23 am rob says: Like or Dislike: 0 0if this IS the apocalypse, I sure wish it would hurry up and get it over with already. Comment have been closed for this article.