Hundreds of Illegal Pot Shops Operating in Los Angeles, Police Say

By | February 16, 2018

  • February 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    WHAT? You mean people can grow pot in their garage and sell it without submitting to government oversight and regulations?

    I thought we were told one of the big benefits of legalized recreational pot was that the Black Market would be put out of business!

    Now, who could have predicted this?
    Does this mean the big tax windfall won’t be as great as promised too? (Of course, says anyone who can think straight; meaning the non-pot heads in the crowd.)

    Next thing you know, teenage use will go up, like in Colorado, even though we were told that wouldn’t happen either . . .

    • February 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm
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      • February 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm
        helpingout says:
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        Agent and Craig,
        No one was disputing the fact that the black market will still be a thing. The key you are missing is taking away the business away from it more, which you both cannot dispute it does do that even if it is slower than they had hoped. No one on here is for illegal shops that take away from this. It would be easier to monitor those things if it was regulated more efficiently. Also, your point on the teenage usage going up is true, but it was a small increase. From this though, the use of harder drugs (heroin, opiods, etc.) went down. I do not agree with teenage usage of the cannabis as it does have negative side effects. Also please stop forgetting the negative side effects of alcohol and other legal drugs.

      • February 16, 2018 at 4:49 pm
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        Agent,
        Knock off the notion that those here defending it are stoners. It is more about the option to choose a substance that has benefits (along with some negative), or who want to use it recreationally like alcohol. The argument that those who defend this are stoners is immature.

        • February 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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          The only person who needs to tone down the rhetoric is you. We don’t need lectures about the issues involved. Our opinions are the ones based on recent studies that show adverse long term effects of recreational pot on cognitive functions after about age 35 or 40. The recent UK study was released about 2 years ago and is still being ignored or denied by Stoners AND Liberals. So, if you don’t like being associated with Stoners, you can only opt to be categorized as a liberal who is ignorant of the facts, or in denial about them.

          • February 23, 2018 at 1:38 pm
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            I should not tone that down. It is immature to say that those defending these things just want to get high. While again no one is disputing there are negative effects of this, it is still less long term than other legal drugs. I want it to be about the freedom for people to choose an alternative if they want. While there are negative studies, there are also positive recent studies, and more of them than the other side (even if it is slightly, of use as well .There is no completely harmless substance, in this area (alcohol, opioids, etc.)

    • February 22, 2018 at 5:45 pm
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      Stoners gonna stone at the lowest possible cost. Legislators thought they’d be raking in plenty of revenue by taxing pot, but they’ve learned otherwise. Too little is being taxed because of the black market nickle-n-dime bag vendors in the shadows. Now the legislators are gonna have to increase the tax rate on the legal vendors to offset the loss in the marketers in the shadows. But, oopsy! That’s just gonna cause more black market sales that will cut into the legal market sales, further reducing tax revenues. It’s apparent libbies just haven’t developed the knack for capitalism and fair taxation of controlled substances… or any substances for that matter.

  • February 18, 2018 at 9:57 pm
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    What about the shops that are operating as collectives that pay taxes. That have sellers permits and are incorporated with the state and donates medical cannabis to members???? Many people who have done it legal are trying to get licenses but are having a hard time because there is no commercial property in a zone where it is legal. Just like Perris how the ex city council member left office right before he opened a marijuana shop!!!! HOW CORRUPT IS THAT?????? He voted on it and then resigned and opened a shop because he knew exactly where it would be allowed so he bought the land before anybody else knew about it! THATS NOT A FAIR MARKET!!! HE SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CRIMINAL CHARGES!!! LET THE COLLECTIVES THAT PAY TAXES AND HAVE THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION CONTINUE TO OPERATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR TO DO SO WHICH IS NOT FAIR IN ITSELF! THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS ARE THE ONES WHO OPERATED ILLEGALLY FOR YEARS AND DECIDED TO FINALLY COME COMPLIANT AND GET A LICENSE. THEY NEVER CLAIMED WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY MAKING I DELT WITH ALL THE BIG COMPANIES WHO DID NOT PAY THE PROPER TAXES AND NOW THEY WANT TO PLAY THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY AND SCREW OVER ALL THE DISPENSARY AND OPERATORS THEY MADE THERE ILLEGAL MILLIONS OFF OF.

  • February 19, 2018 at 3:18 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    Fun Thought Experiment: Which will kill more people next year in California:
    Mass Shootings or the Increase in the Number of People Killed by Drivers who are Stoned?

    Based on the Colorado experience, it’s a no-brainer (redundant for pot-heads).

    • February 20, 2018 at 8:40 am
      Ron says:
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      The correct comparison is between drivers under the influence of alcohol vs marijuana.

      • February 20, 2018 at 2:29 pm
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        • February 21, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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          While your point is a valid concern for people, it is also illogical to believe the rate would decrease if more people have access to it. My concern is that most accidents where someone has THC in their system, it is not the only substance in their system (normally alcohol is present). I do believe we have to monitor this closely, but of course will increase such as the average number of drunk driving related crashes. Again, I will agree with you that the number of crashes related to THC impairment in general will increase more than alcohol related.

        • February 22, 2018 at 5:55 pm
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          Do stoners have the will power & forethought to pick someone in their Choom Gang to be their Designated Driver? They may all get too stoned before they realize they forgot to designate someone.



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