I know your comment was slightly in jest, but seriously:
—–Life Exp—-Education—Happiness Index—
CA —-3rd———-14th———17th
California is anywhere from good to great across the board, and their residents are clearly not affected negatively by their government being a little more hands-on than, say, the southern US, whose numbers all look piss-poor in relation to CA.
California has the worst poverty rate in America now. The worst of ANY state.
California is nearly bankrupt from Public Pensions that were never funded.
California is protecting felons(!) in San Francisco under their Sanctuary city laws.
San Francisco is swamped with homeless drug addicts and needles and human waste all over the city. So bad that very liberal Alicia Aliota is running for mayor to try to reverse course on all these issues.
Millions of middle class people have moved out of California over the past 10 years, so much so that UHaul charges about double for people leaving California than people moving to California.
Your statistics reflect the huge wealth divide (and are dated). Homeless people aren’t usually counted in surveys – they don’t have phones or addresses.
After all, it can cause damage to IQ for young people, increase your chances of mental illness, and lead to addiction. In addition, smoking marijuana can cause lung damage.
Nah. Coffee is dangerous, but marijuana cures all kinds of diseases. Just ask a pothead.
Craig, love your sarcastic humor. You did leave out Scromiting as a side effect. Some of our pro Marijuana crowd do it with every post they make.
By the way, I have many relatives who drank several cups of coffee a day and lived into their 80’s & 90’s and did not die of Cancer. California is totally idiotic with what they come up with.
Since you brought it up, coffee and MJ are similar in more than one way:
–both are simple agricultural products and have been used by humans for thousands of years
–both are psychoactive, though coffee is more addictive
–both contain carcinogens
–neither one has ever given anyone cancer
Though it’s rare, a few people each year actually die from overdose of caffeine, though this would be more likely to occur with energy drinks and diet pills rather than coffee. There is no recorded instance of someone dying due to overdose of THC.
There is no evidence of anyone dying in a car crash due to intoxication from consuming coffee. THC on the other hand, causes many deaths every year, one of the growing problems in Colorado since legalization of marijuana.
Coffee has not been linked to higher rates of suicide. Marijuana has been.
Coffee does not reduce IQ; marijuana has been conclusively proven to do so in young people.
Rehabilitation therapists say marijuana is one of the more addictive substances, even though the addiction is psychological and not physical. (In Australia, 91% of addicted teens are addicted to marijuana, for example.)
Coffee is not psychoactive. Please. Chemically, THC is a hallucinogen (like LSD).
(Apparently, marijuana also blunts your ability to think straight and tell the truth.)
LOL. Dang, your post just made me spit my coffee out! Maybe there should be a warning label for that?
Intoxicated drivers kill people. No one disputes this. Driving while intoxicated is illegal in every state.
Marijuana has NOT been “conclusively proven” to lower IQ. You are referring to Madeline Meier’s Dunedin Study. An insightful study to say the least, but one study does not “conclusively prove” anything. I wouldn’t let my kids use MJ, but I also don’t let them drink coffee.
“In Australia, 91% of addicted teens are addicted to marijuana, for example.” Gibberish.
Caffeine is most certainly psychoactive. Worldwide, it is the 2nd most used psychoactive drug, behind sugar. Give your kids a couple shots of espresso and see what happens.
Not sure what you mean by your last sentence, other than maybe you think I use MJ and am a liar? Ad hominem 101.
You won’t let your kids use coffee. You a Mormon? Otherwise, I don’t think you will say a word about their drinking coffee as they get older. But if you are a good parent, you will definitely warn them about marijuana.
Your effort at equivalency between the two is ludicrous. And you know it.
May 11, 2018 at 4:14 pm
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Craig,
Yes children should not have coffee when they are young. Yes coffee is a psychoactive drug (there is a reason why many people need a cup of coffee to start their day). Yes the withdrawal symptoms caused from a lack of coffee is worse than cannabis. it is not about false equivalencies. You did not believe coffee is a psychoactive drug which ti is. Parents should warn their kids about cannabis and how they should refrain until they become of age to choose if it is legal at that point. This should go without saying, similar to parents educating children on alcohol and the associated risks. It is not ludicrous, you just believe that because it hinders your narrative.
May 11, 2018 at 4:15 pm
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For the record, not a Mormon. Copied from Healthline.com:
“Coffee contains caffeine, which is a stimulant. There are no standards in the U.S. for caffeine intake in kids, but Canada has a maximum limit of 45 mg per day (equivalent to the caffeine in one can of soda). Too much caffeine can lead to insomnia, jitteriness, upset stomach, headaches, difficulty concentrating, and increased heart rate. In younger children, these symptoms occur after just a small amount. Further, childhood and adolescence are the most important times for bone strengthening. Too much caffeine can interfere with calcium absorption, which negatively affects proper growth. Additionally, adding cream and loads of sugar, or drinking high calorie specialty coffees, can lead to weight gain and cavities. So when is it okay for kids to start drinking coffee? A few sips here and there are no big deal. However, when sips turn into daily cups, that’s a whole other story. Coffee is addictive and withdrawal symptoms are real, so the later you start, the better. I recommend starting towards the end of adolescence when growth and development is slowing down.” – Toby Amidor, MS, RD
Back to the topic of the article, I think the idea of cancer warnings on coffee is ludicrous, but coffee is definitely not harmless — especially for kids. I just think it’s silly that government feels the need to get involved to “protect” us from ourselves.
Now, time for another cup!
May 14, 2018 at 10:40 am
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I am a Mormon, so you can front-load your bias against me.
In the church, we have a health law which effectively says: No Coffee or tea (originally labeled as just hot drinks, defined more specifically as C & T in the past 100 years or so), no tobacco, or alcohol. We are also taught to eat meat sparingly and to instead base our diets in fruits, vegetables, and grains.
Coffee and Tea do have carcinogens, but so does about a billion other things out there. Coffee probably does more damage out of just being served ridiculously hot than what is in it, according to a study a couple of years ago, extremely hot temperatures damage the cells in your throat and can cause throat cancer. Alcohol does the same thing, interestingly enough.
Mormons do tend to live much longer than the rest of the population, and I would have to think some of that is adherence to not consuming things that are more regarded as being “bad” for you than good for you.
May 9, 2018 at 3:35 pm
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The whole trouble with cancer warnings is that they have become the boy who cried wolf.
The warnings need to be saved for the worst of the worst chemicals and products, not coffee for goodness sake.
Yes, evidence for cancer from acrylamide is pretty weak. But still California is demanding warning labels for coffee.
From an insurance, business risk point of view, where does this leave all the other food products (French fries, potato chips, snacks, bread, cereals, etc.) that have muchhigher levels of acrylamide in them?
Seems to me these products will need to proactively put warning labels on all their products containing acrylamide to avoid getting a lawsuit. Otherwise, their liability insurance provider will not cover them for any lawsuits that due come their way.
The repercussions of this court ruling for the food manufacturing industry are only just beginning to be fully understood.
Thank you for this. I hadn’t seen this info and retract my gibberish remark.
Is it strange that the article states that MJ use is up 40% over 11 years (12,712 – ALL teenagers), while cocaine use is up 56% over 2 years (26,200 – JUST 15-year-olds), yet cannabis is responsible for 91% of drug treatments?
It also states that fewer people are using cannabis, so that’s good news, especially when talking about kids.
Either the math is wrong, or the cocaine users are not seeking treatment. Ha.
Craig,
I would like to point out that this study is referencing 0.34% of the teens in the UK, which I do not believe can be statistically significant. While yes it (statistical significance) does have to do with the sample size, one that uses this low of an overall percentage does not tackle the actual problem. The other issue that I noticed was that the sample was not random, and that can have an adverse side effect when attempting to prove something as statistically significant. Also right now an estimated 200,000 children in England live with alcohol-dependent parents which should have a higher focus rather than what your article talks about. I agree that children (and teenagers) should not use cannabis as it can have adverse effect on these young and developing mind.
M.D. Nicholas Gonzalez who treats cancer patients in NY said that coffee intake are detrimental to the overall health, and coffee in enemas are a great treatment for cancer. He literally says “In terms of its physiological action, oddly enough when you drink coffee it stimulates the stress nervous system and also suppression of liver function.” I do believe coffee affects more the health that we think. When this label is going to be implemented? Good for CA
Give me a break! Coffee causes cancer? Well, living in California causes brain damage.
I know your comment was slightly in jest, but seriously:
—–Life Exp—-Education—Happiness Index—
CA —-3rd———-14th———17th
California is anywhere from good to great across the board, and their residents are clearly not affected negatively by their government being a little more hands-on than, say, the southern US, whose numbers all look piss-poor in relation to CA.
Are you kidding?
California has the worst poverty rate in America now. The worst of ANY state.
California is nearly bankrupt from Public Pensions that were never funded.
California is protecting felons(!) in San Francisco under their Sanctuary city laws.
San Francisco is swamped with homeless drug addicts and needles and human waste all over the city. So bad that very liberal Alicia Aliota is running for mayor to try to reverse course on all these issues.
Millions of middle class people have moved out of California over the past 10 years, so much so that UHaul charges about double for people leaving California than people moving to California.
Your statistics reflect the huge wealth divide (and are dated). Homeless people aren’t usually counted in surveys – they don’t have phones or addresses.
More BS from the Nanny State………….
I went to my doctor and said I drink coffee. Am I ok? She said I was going to die. I said when?
She said in about 50 years.
Will marijuana have any warnings?
After all, it can cause damage to IQ for young people, increase your chances of mental illness, and lead to addiction. In addition, smoking marijuana can cause lung damage.
Nah. Coffee is dangerous, but marijuana cures all kinds of diseases. Just ask a pothead.
Craig, love your sarcastic humor. You did leave out Scromiting as a side effect. Some of our pro Marijuana crowd do it with every post they make.
By the way, I have many relatives who drank several cups of coffee a day and lived into their 80’s & 90’s and did not die of Cancer. California is totally idiotic with what they come up with.
Since you brought it up, coffee and MJ are similar in more than one way:
–both are simple agricultural products and have been used by humans for thousands of years
–both are psychoactive, though coffee is more addictive
–both contain carcinogens
–neither one has ever given anyone cancer
Though it’s rare, a few people each year actually die from overdose of caffeine, though this would be more likely to occur with energy drinks and diet pills rather than coffee. There is no recorded instance of someone dying due to overdose of THC.
There is no evidence of anyone dying in a car crash due to intoxication from consuming coffee. THC on the other hand, causes many deaths every year, one of the growing problems in Colorado since legalization of marijuana.
Coffee has not been linked to higher rates of suicide. Marijuana has been.
Coffee does not reduce IQ; marijuana has been conclusively proven to do so in young people.
Rehabilitation therapists say marijuana is one of the more addictive substances, even though the addiction is psychological and not physical. (In Australia, 91% of addicted teens are addicted to marijuana, for example.)
Coffee is not psychoactive. Please. Chemically, THC is a hallucinogen (like LSD).
(Apparently, marijuana also blunts your ability to think straight and tell the truth.)
LOL. Dang, your post just made me spit my coffee out! Maybe there should be a warning label for that?
Intoxicated drivers kill people. No one disputes this. Driving while intoxicated is illegal in every state.
Marijuana has NOT been “conclusively proven” to lower IQ. You are referring to Madeline Meier’s Dunedin Study. An insightful study to say the least, but one study does not “conclusively prove” anything. I wouldn’t let my kids use MJ, but I also don’t let them drink coffee.
“In Australia, 91% of addicted teens are addicted to marijuana, for example.” Gibberish.
Caffeine is most certainly psychoactive. Worldwide, it is the 2nd most used psychoactive drug, behind sugar. Give your kids a couple shots of espresso and see what happens.
Not sure what you mean by your last sentence, other than maybe you think I use MJ and am a liar? Ad hominem 101.
You won’t let your kids use coffee. You a Mormon? Otherwise, I don’t think you will say a word about their drinking coffee as they get older. But if you are a good parent, you will definitely warn them about marijuana.
Your effort at equivalency between the two is ludicrous. And you know it.
Craig,
Yes children should not have coffee when they are young. Yes coffee is a psychoactive drug (there is a reason why many people need a cup of coffee to start their day). Yes the withdrawal symptoms caused from a lack of coffee is worse than cannabis. it is not about false equivalencies. You did not believe coffee is a psychoactive drug which ti is. Parents should warn their kids about cannabis and how they should refrain until they become of age to choose if it is legal at that point. This should go without saying, similar to parents educating children on alcohol and the associated risks. It is not ludicrous, you just believe that because it hinders your narrative.
For the record, not a Mormon. Copied from Healthline.com:
“Coffee contains caffeine, which is a stimulant. There are no standards in the U.S. for caffeine intake in kids, but Canada has a maximum limit of 45 mg per day (equivalent to the caffeine in one can of soda). Too much caffeine can lead to insomnia, jitteriness, upset stomach, headaches, difficulty concentrating, and increased heart rate. In younger children, these symptoms occur after just a small amount. Further, childhood and adolescence are the most important times for bone strengthening. Too much caffeine can interfere with calcium absorption, which negatively affects proper growth. Additionally, adding cream and loads of sugar, or drinking high calorie specialty coffees, can lead to weight gain and cavities. So when is it okay for kids to start drinking coffee? A few sips here and there are no big deal. However, when sips turn into daily cups, that’s a whole other story. Coffee is addictive and withdrawal symptoms are real, so the later you start, the better. I recommend starting towards the end of adolescence when growth and development is slowing down.” – Toby Amidor, MS, RD
Back to the topic of the article, I think the idea of cancer warnings on coffee is ludicrous, but coffee is definitely not harmless — especially for kids. I just think it’s silly that government feels the need to get involved to “protect” us from ourselves.
Now, time for another cup!
I am a Mormon, so you can front-load your bias against me.
In the church, we have a health law which effectively says: No Coffee or tea (originally labeled as just hot drinks, defined more specifically as C & T in the past 100 years or so), no tobacco, or alcohol. We are also taught to eat meat sparingly and to instead base our diets in fruits, vegetables, and grains.
Coffee and Tea do have carcinogens, but so does about a billion other things out there. Coffee probably does more damage out of just being served ridiculously hot than what is in it, according to a study a couple of years ago, extremely hot temperatures damage the cells in your throat and can cause throat cancer. Alcohol does the same thing, interestingly enough.
https://www.livescience.com/55130-how-hot-beverages-increase-cancer-risk.html
Mormons do tend to live much longer than the rest of the population, and I would have to think some of that is adherence to not consuming things that are more regarded as being “bad” for you than good for you.
The whole trouble with cancer warnings is that they have become the boy who cried wolf.
The warnings need to be saved for the worst of the worst chemicals and products, not coffee for goodness sake.
Yes, evidence for cancer from acrylamide is pretty weak. But still California is demanding warning labels for coffee.
From an insurance, business risk point of view, where does this leave all the other food products (French fries, potato chips, snacks, bread, cereals, etc.) that have muchhigher levels of acrylamide in them?
Seems to me these products will need to proactively put warning labels on all their products containing acrylamide to avoid getting a lawsuit. Otherwise, their liability insurance provider will not cover them for any lawsuits that due come their way.
The repercussions of this court ruling for the food manufacturing industry are only just beginning to be fully understood.
Gibberish: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5642917/Nine-ten-teens-drug-clinics-treated-marijuana-use.html
No word about how many are in rehabilitation for coffee . . .
Thank you for this. I hadn’t seen this info and retract my gibberish remark.
Is it strange that the article states that MJ use is up 40% over 11 years (12,712 – ALL teenagers), while cocaine use is up 56% over 2 years (26,200 – JUST 15-year-olds), yet cannabis is responsible for 91% of drug treatments?
It also states that fewer people are using cannabis, so that’s good news, especially when talking about kids.
Either the math is wrong, or the cocaine users are not seeking treatment. Ha.
Have a good weekend!
Thanks. You too.
Craig,
I would like to point out that this study is referencing 0.34% of the teens in the UK, which I do not believe can be statistically significant. While yes it (statistical significance) does have to do with the sample size, one that uses this low of an overall percentage does not tackle the actual problem. The other issue that I noticed was that the sample was not random, and that can have an adverse side effect when attempting to prove something as statistically significant. Also right now an estimated 200,000 children in England live with alcohol-dependent parents which should have a higher focus rather than what your article talks about. I agree that children (and teenagers) should not use cannabis as it can have adverse effect on these young and developing mind.
M.D. Nicholas Gonzalez who treats cancer patients in NY said that coffee intake are detrimental to the overall health, and coffee in enemas are a great treatment for cancer. He literally says “In terms of its physiological action, oddly enough when you drink coffee it stimulates the stress nervous system and also suppression of liver function.” I do believe coffee affects more the health that we think. When this label is going to be implemented? Good for CA