California Cannabis Group Asking for Tighter Vaping-Safety Rules

November 6, 2019

  • November 6, 2019 at 12:45 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    HA HA HA HA! “Get tougher with illegal shops.”

    Now who could have seen THIS coming when pot was legalized? And what does ‘get tougher’ mean? Send them to jail for pot violations? In liberal California? When the nation’s entire left wing whines about people in prison for pot convictions?

    HA HA HA HA HA! “Stop selling illegal pot products, sir, or I will report you to the principle!”

    • November 7, 2019 at 12:03 pm
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        Craig Cornell says:
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        You missed the real Good News in the article (actually, you probably read it . . .):

        “According to research by Arcview Market Research and BDS Analytics, Californians will spend $3.1 billion buying marijuana on the legal market, and $8.1 on the illegal one. In spite of the state’s voting to legalize marijuana use in 2016, the marijuana black market still thrives in California due to steep sales taxes attached to the drug.”

        • November 7, 2019 at 12:31 pm
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          Which is all the more reason why focus should be placed on raids such as this and the illegal vape shops/dispensaries this group is advocating. Certainly a step in the right direction and any reduction in the black market is something I think we can all get behind, no?

          • November 7, 2019 at 1:01 pm
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            Did you miss the “steep sales taxes” comment? Did you miss the wild mismatch between legal sales and illegal sales (3.1 to 8.1)? Did you forget that liberals hate putting people in jail for pot violations? Did you forget how easy it is – see 60 Minutes – to grow high grade pot in the Sonoma hills?

            Answer: No. You missed none of it. You are a liberal, and embracing falsehoods is your specialty. (“Legal pot will kill the Mexican Cartels, keep pot from kids, control potency, kill the black market, and educate the public!” Promises kept: zero.)

          • November 7, 2019 at 1:33 pm
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            So you are or are not in favor of reducing the black market footprint? That is the question. Not all these other shiny object issues you are trying to flash.

            Based on that seizure, the number was either 9.6 and now 8.1 OR the 8.1 needs to be reduced to 6.6. Either way, I believe it’s a move in the right direction, don’t you?

            You and I both know the 60 Minutes special wasn’t about how easy it is to grow high grade in the Sonoma Hills. That’s NOT what the point of the segment was. Trying to misinform again, Craig? Or, ts the following more accurate: I’ve passed along your bridge too many times. Maybe it’s time to stop feeding you with answers to your riddles. Maybe you’ll move to a different bridge.

          • November 7, 2019 at 3:50 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Key word: “seizure”. What happened to the guys growing the illegal weed? And how soon will they simply grow more?

            If you think the authorities can run around the entire state of California “seizing” illegal weed before it can be sold. . . I have a bridge I want to sell you.

            And you lie, again. 60 Minutes reported on a large, illegal, professional pot farm in the hills that was shut down . . . only to be up and running illegally in exactly the same professional condition 30 days later. (But for a liberal, that amounts to “success”!)

  • November 7, 2019 at 11:55 am
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    “Stop selling illegal pot products, sir, or I will report you to the ‘principle’!”

    Stay in school, kids.

    • November 7, 2019 at 12:19 pm
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      • November 7, 2019 at 1:40 pm
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        Hey Craig, remember how you flipped out on a rage bender when I mentioned your bias against marijuana because of your deceased son? And you went OFF on me for daring to even MENTION your son? But now you’re posting things like this? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds I guess.

        • November 7, 2019 at 4:42 pm
          helpingout says:
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          Craig – When I began posting on IJ, I actually agreed with a few things you posted. I thought people had you all wrong. After months of reading the same thing on various threads, it has become obvious you have some sort of anger you need to let go of. I am being serious when I say you may want to speak with a qualified psychologist. Your behavior is seriously abnormal. You twist words, don’t back up anything you say with facts, twist what articles actually say, attack people when they disagree with you on even the most minor of issues and cannot seem to help yourself from being overly rude all the time. I say this as a friend. Something is causing you to have misappropriated anger and it isn’t IJ. Maybe disconnect for a while and take a vacation.

        • November 7, 2019 at 4:45 pm
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          We could also go into the article where you couldn’t follow the flow of a conversation with flawed logic and captain if you want to discuss some more issues with you: https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2019/11/01/547223.htm/?comments

        • November 7, 2019 at 6:12 pm
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          Helpingout has done a killer job of pointing out your hypocrisies and inconsistencies, I just wanted to add that it’s not the same, because at least in my case I was not insulting your dead son. I mentioned that you had a bias likely because of him. Then you went off on a rant about how dare I mention him blah blah blah. Except now you’ve brought him up yourself in a ridiculous context. This is what we call hypocrisy Craig. It’s not the first time for you, but it’s one of the most blatant and disturbing times certainly. And as usual, now that you’ve been called out for your hypocritical, misinforming behavior, you’re going to just stop responding and go on spreading your nonsense on another board.

      • November 7, 2019 at 2:13 pm
        Fair Playing Field says:
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        Yeah, that was a real knee-slapper, alright. I also got a chuckle over you referring to Stephen Easterbrook as having “an extra-marital affair” even though the guy is divorced.

        I’m guessing the old transmission is starting to slip a little bit.

        For life is quite absurd
        And death’s the final word
        Always look on the bright side of life

    • November 7, 2019 at 1:53 pm
      Captain Planet says:
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      Stay in school but away from the principal’s office.

  • November 7, 2019 at 12:36 pm
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    “Among its proposals, the group says regulations should expressly ban the use of additives, cutting agents and artificial flavoring known to be harmful in cannabis vaping products. It also recommended more stringent standards for heavy metal testing of vaping hardware – the devices that are used to turn concentrated cannabis oil into a vapor.”

    “It is also critical that – like any other public health issue – we implement effective solutions that are based on data and facts, rather than fear, to address the root cause of these issues.”

    Spot on!

    • November 7, 2019 at 1:03 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Sounds wonderful. Problem: news reports in California indicate that legal dispensaries are buying illegally grown pot to keep prices low. Yep. Pot that isn’t tested for pesticides or potency or additives.

      Progress! Talk the Talk. Never walk the walk.

      • November 7, 2019 at 1:35 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        Perfect, so you agree with this group and what they are advocating, then. Or, didn’t you read the article? I don’t have to cut and paste the whole article, do I?

        • November 7, 2019 at 3:56 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          Who wouldn’t agree? Geez, you must live in Fantasyland. It will NEVER happen. Illegal product will sell because it is easy to make, cheaper to sell, and liberals in California would crucify anyone for putting pot sellers in jail.

          What’s the risk of continuing with illegal product? Nothing.

          • November 7, 2019 at 3:58 pm
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            You’re basing this on your opinion, and since you know VERY little about this industry that doesn’t tread much water. We’ve been over this. The “black market” you’re so concerned about in California is primarily sending product to other states. Legal marijuana in California has for the most part killed the black market trade within CAlifornia. No one is purchasing illegal product of inferior quality when such high quality is available for virtually the same price. You’re basing your entire argument around a fairytale belief that people are still utiziling the black market in california, that’s just not true on the level you believe it is.

          • November 7, 2019 at 3:59 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Jon, you are an insurance employee. You are not supposed to give an opinion on anything other than insurance. The Jon Rule.

          • November 7, 2019 at 4:01 pm
            Jon says:
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            You can totally give an opinion on things outside of insurance. The issue is you make statements as if they’re factual about marijuana that are solely based on your opinion, not reality. You have zero knowledge on what marijuana users are actually like, what daily users are like and the effects that marijuana has on them. You have based your opinion on poor life circumstances and personal bias, most likely related to the dead son you’ve brought up poorly on this very board. You blame marijuana for your anger instead of dealing with the internal issues you have, and so marijuana is just everything wrong with the world and you try to find reasons it’s bad to justify your anger. It’s sad.

  • November 7, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    Captain Planet says:
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    Craig wrote, “…news reports in California indicate…”

    Some people are saying, people are re-tweeting, that it’s all just fake news, Jon.

    • November 7, 2019 at 3:59 pm
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      If I produce a link to a news report that says the same, will you lie about it or admit you were wrong?

      • November 7, 2019 at 5:32 pm
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        OCTOBER 18, 2019 AT 2:15 PM
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        Here it is one more more time for y’all. Comments, no matter how otherwise valid, will be deleted if they contain personal insults and/or are off-topic. These insults might include liar, Basement Boy, puffy chested (whatever that is), Kangaroo, idiot, pervert, slow learner, Lefty, crazy, mentally ill, fool, pathetic, old man, etc.

      • November 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm
        Jon says:
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        It’s actually as easy as googling “smoking cancer causation proof” and there are a ton of studies out there, can you actually read? The info is there dummy, you’re the only one who doesn’t seem able to find it. It’s there for smoking and cancer, it’s not there for THC and schizophrenia. It’s simple, you just seem unable to deal with the truth.

      • November 8, 2019 at 9:02 am
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        If I can produce a link to a new report link on climate science, will you lie about it or admit you were wrong? Your THC Scary Monster doesn’t exist. It’s a hoax.

        NOVEMBER 7, 2019 AT 4:16 PM
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        How many other lakes in the world have disappeared because of Climate Change? Answer: zero.
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        How many people have died from ingesting THC alone? Answer: zero

        Hey, this game is incredibly easy to play!

        • November 11, 2019 at 9:20 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          How many people have died from ingesting tobacco alone? Answer: zero.

          They died from cancer! HA HA HA HA! Right, Planet? Same thing as discounting THC caused deaths in car crashes, suicides, paranoid violent rage, etc.

          • November 12, 2019 at 9:12 am
            Captain Planet says:
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            Actually, it is possible to ingest too much tobacco in a single sitting and die, per the CDC. Much like alcohol. But, that is not true of THC. Happy to help educate on this and dispel the misinformation some feel necessary to share on these boards.

  • November 7, 2019 at 2:40 pm
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    Hey Craig – since you’ve ignored me multiple times on another article, I’d thought I’d try asking you here since you’re obviously involved in this thread.

    Did you sign any kind of agreement when you were hired, and do you think it’s okay to do whatever you want in direct violation of the agreement you signed?

    • November 7, 2019 at 2:46 pm
      helpingout says:
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      Stop Rosen, you are scaring him *Sarcasm*

    • November 7, 2019 at 3:59 pm
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      UNRELATED DEFLECTION ATTEMPT

      Why don’t you own up to the lies you repeatedly tell instead of trying to deflect the argument again?

      • November 7, 2019 at 5:32 pm
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        Once again,
        OCTOBER 18, 2019 AT 2:15 PM
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        Here it is one more more time for y’all. Comments, no matter how otherwise valid, will be deleted if they contain personal insults and/or are off-topic. These insults might include liar, Basement Boy, puffy chested (whatever that is), Kangaroo, idiot, pervert, slow learner, Lefty, crazy, mentally ill, fool, pathetic, old man, etc.

      • November 7, 2019 at 7:57 pm
        Craig Cornell says:
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        Here’s Planet again to give the civility lecture. ZZZZZZZ

        Somehow, Planet never reads the insults from Jon . . .

    • November 7, 2019 at 4:34 pm
      helpingout says:
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      Craig,

      Stop the shifting. Answer the question and act like an adult. Your needless questions have already been discussed, but the question Rosen has posed has not been addressed by you, rather you continue to bring up a topic that Rosen has stated his stance on.

    • November 7, 2019 at 4:57 pm
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      That’s clearly not what I said in the other article or over here, but you’re going to believe whatever you want to think I said no matter how many times I cite myself. So let’s move on…..

      Not specific to fraternization, but generally speaking: did you sign any kind of agreement when you were hired, and do you think it’s okay to do whatever you want in direct violation of the agreement you signed?

      Are you able to answer me directly this time?

    • November 8, 2019 at 1:12 pm
      Captain Planet says:
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      Here you go, Craig. I’m always happy to help!

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      Here it is one more more time for y’all. Comments, no matter how otherwise valid, will be deleted if they contain personal insults and/or are off-topic. These insults might include liar, Basement Boy, puffy chested (whatever that is), Kangaroo, idiot, pervert, slow learner, Lefty, crazy, mentally ill, fool, pathetic, old man, etc. And if your comment only exists to address, criticize or belittle another commenter or person as opposed to addressing the issues or articles, it will be deleted. Try disagreeing with or questioning the arguments or “evidence” of others without insulting them personally and without projecting what you perceive to be their motive, morals or character. I swear some of you insult so often you aren’t even aware you are doing it– it’s automatic. If your comment is worthwhile, it should stand on its own without support from insults or innuendo. In short, speak to the issue, facts and article. If you can’t do that, please do not post. And stop complaining if you are caught and deleted but someone else gets away with it. Life’s unfair.

  • November 11, 2019 at 9:21 am
    Captain Planet says:
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    From the CDC’s website:

    Updated November 8, 2019, at 1:00 PM EST

    What is New
    Recent CDC laboratory testing of bronchoalveolar lavage (BAL) fluid samples (or samples of fluid collected from the lungs) from 29 patients with EVALI submitted to CDC from 10 states found vitamin E acetate in all of the BAL fluid samples. Vitamin E acetate is used as an additive in the production of e-cigarette, or vaping, products. This is the first time that we have detected a potential chemical of concern in biologic samples from patients with these lung injuries.

    • November 11, 2019 at 9:24 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Oh, man. You should go have a Pot Party! Your beloved THC dodged the bullet on this one.

      (Never mind all the tough regulatory control on that Vitamin E acetate from your pot loving friends; I’m sure next time they will be really tough).

      But it doesn’t mean you can keep saying THC isn’t physically addictive anymore. Or that it doesn’t cause mental illness. Or birth defects. Car crashes. Psychosis – the permanent kind. Loss of IQ. Memory loss.

      But hey, for a Pot Lover, this is a big victory! You should hit the bong to celebrate!

      • November 12, 2019 at 9:06 am
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        (Pushing the goalpost shifting aside) – What’s that? I am right and you are wrong? That’s what you are saying, right? The personal insults don’t belong here, but I understand the angst you hold inside doesn’t allow you to play by the rules out here. Which is why your comments are often deleted. I’ll turn the other cheek. Strike again if you so do desire.

      • November 12, 2019 at 9:24 am
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        Craig,

        Do we need to go back to elementary school where we learn how to have a conversation? Please go back and educate yourself a little bit.

        Captain has said multiple times he does not partake. by making these comments you are only lowering yourself more than you have in the past few weeks. Take Smooth’s advice.

        It is not physically addictive, now if you said mentally addictive you would have been correct in that assertion. It does not cause mental illness in adults who are not predisposed to those mental illnesses All of your claims have been fact checked. Grow up and learn to admit there are areas you were wrong about and how you learned by reading the multiple articles people have shared with you discussing how your points are not valid.

        Now go ahead and attack me like usual.



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