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Farmers Insurance Group Fined $1 Million in Settlement

West News • January 24, 2006
Farmers Insurance Group has been fined $1 million following settlement negotiations about how the company handled consumer claims. Farmers, consisting of Farmers Insurance Exchange, Fire ...

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Subject: RE: Well it's Unanimous, Farmers Sucks

Posted On: August 30, 2006, 3:35 pm CDT
Posted By: Tom C
Comment:
When a house fire occurred at our home, the Farmers insurance company relocated us to a hotel. Then a meeting was set up with an out of state adjuster, our agent and us. At the meeting, where we were obviously in the "courtship" phase we were taken to a nice restaurant for lunch. But before the meal ended, the out of state agent began to grow more and more terse, openly stating the limits he'd go on our "large fire loss," which proved to be approx. $250,000.
We were given a packet of fire loss information, and informed that by law we could hire a Public Adjustor (nicknamed ambulance chaser with a chuckle from the out of state Farmers adjustr) and did not have to have the out of state Farmers adjuster. The packet included a list of the PA's clients. We called them, and the complaints from clients concerned a variety of insurance companies. The one which was incredible to me was a house fire to large home in which the insured's were offered $245,000 by Farmers for a $619,000 loss. This was just one scenario, in which Farmers would pocket the additional monies over the $245,000 in the policy needed by the homeowner for his loss. Others told of Farmers pocketing or trying to rip off insureds for varying amounts but usually $100,000 and up.
One Farmers trick is to say the insureds are guilty of arson. I interviewed at least two who had this played on them. One man had a rental that caught fire when he was at work and he was accused of arson. He had to hire attorneys etc and was cleared. If one is ever cleared of suspicion in documents or reports. The PA openly told at a meeting with contractors of a man he represented who was cleared and he thinks he was probably guilty! Right now in our area this has been played on a couple who are charged with arson, and are living in a tent in their back yard because they are told they have no right to claim living expenses. To get them into a hotel, their innocence must be proven through a lengthy investigation.
One unscrupulous Farmers Insurance practice is for the agent to offer his insureds a policy in either a lower economy premium amount or a higher amount. No other policy is offered. Thinking you are protecting yourself responsibly, you take the higher policy in the higher amount, such as 184,000 for the structure, and 128,000 for the content. What is not foreseen is that when disaster occurrs the agent discloses that the fine print reads you must be insured 100 % loan to value or you do not qualify for an additional 25 % which is crucial if your home needs to be rebuilt due to damage, because contractors don't work for free. You learn that you as insureds have liability for interior of walls and beams covered with sooty acidic stained beams which give forth fire odor when the home is warmed, or weather is damp. The only way to remove this smell is to gut the entire house, and this doesn't happen for this policy amount, without the additional 25 %. When you try to file your claim, you are told "I'm sorry but this is all the coverage you have." You cannot locate a contractor who will touch the case. They think it's a joke! Your structure cannot be rebuilt for that amount. Then the adjuster or agent play real estate agents circling like buzzards picking the victims bones to force you to "sell" your property to a builder. You have few options or alternatives at this point.
Repair with like kind and materials has it's limitations to your policy amount. We had an older home with lathe and plaster. When we got to finer points of our loss on this home over 100 years old, they wanted to replace original light fixtures with cheap new ones. Do they sell your originals to salvage yards for $$$?
While the PA states he now has our situation under control and the home will be rebuilt, it hasn't started yet. We feel ripped off that we were forced to hire a PA who charged 10% on the structure and even added charges of 10% of the fire damage cleaning peoples fees, so we owe him nearly $30,000 for his services. But there was no other way to recover the damages to make our home livable and be able to free ourselves of liability when we sell the home.



5214 South 2nd Avenue
Everett, Wa 98203-4113
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Oct 21, 2009, 12:32 pm
RE: To Carl Farm mical ondras/madrigal
Jan 10, 2009, 9:31 am
RE: RE: RE: Farmers tom
Aug 11, 2008, 12:07 pm
RE: Has Farmers Insurance Group Or Partners Tried This On Yo Formers Farmers Agent
Jul 29, 2008, 10:46 pm
Has Farmers Insurance Group Or Partners Tried This On You? Tom Campbell
Jul 27, 2008, 10:49 pm
RE: RE: Farmers Rule Doug A.
Jul 27, 2008, 3:09 pm
RE: So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG Last? Jim E.
Jul 27, 2008, 2:48 pm
RE: RE: So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG Las Allen D.
Jul 27, 2008, 2:37 pm
RE: Satisfied customer jim
Jul 27, 2008, 2:32 pm
RE: RE: Claims James
Jul 27, 2008, 2:27 pm
RE: RE: RE: low ball offer for pain and suffering chris@chrislift.com
Jul 27, 2008, 2:09 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Getting limits of coverage JCB
Jul 8, 2008, 12:36 pm
RE: RE: RE: Getting limits of coverage Gary
Jul 7, 2008, 6:57 pm
RE: RE: Getting limits of coverage JCB
Jul 7, 2008, 10:47 am
RE: Getting limits of coverage curious george
Jul 7, 2008, 10:25 am
Getting limits of coverage Gary
Jul 6, 2008, 5:25 pm
RE: No big deal RReggie
Feb 25, 2008, 5:09 pm
RE: Farmers Named In 2 Billion Dollar Fraud Lawsuit Jeff
Nov 7, 2007, 10:28 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you under Jeff
Nov 7, 2007, 10:09 pm
RE: RE: Farmers Farmers Team memeber
Jun 12, 2007, 2:08 pm
i lit myself on fire and got fired Brad
Jun 6, 2007, 7:57 pm
RE: Asbestos Survey On Bid Not Done Alana
Apr 11, 2007, 3:53 pm
RE: Well it's Unanimous, Farmers Sucks Tom C
Aug 30, 2006, 3:35 pm
No big deal einstein
Apr 7, 2006, 11:12 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understa Al
Apr 2, 2006, 7:36 am
RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a Einstein
Mar 31, 2006, 9:41 pm
Chance at Justice Former Agent
Mar 29, 2006, 8:25 am
RE: RE: RE: low ball offer for pain and suffering DD
Mar 28, 2006, 4:36 pm
RE: RE: low ball offer for pain and suffering rebecca
Mar 28, 2006, 3:34 pm
RE: low ball offer for pain and suffering DD
Mar 27, 2006, 7:19 pm
low ball offer for pain and suffering rebecca
Mar 27, 2006, 6:32 pm
RE: RE: Al--Some Insurance Adjusters Pay May Affect Their In adjuster
Mar 16, 2006, 4:44 pm
RE: Al--Some Insurance Adjusters Pay May Affect Their Integr Roger Poe
Mar 16, 2006, 10:00 am
Al--Some Insurance Adjusters Pay May Affect Their Integrity Roger Poe
Mar 12, 2006, 4:08 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: To Carl Farm Al
Mar 11, 2006, 7:28 am
RE: RE: RE: To Carl Farm Adjuster
Mar 10, 2006, 4:58 pm
JD POWER??? Al
Mar 7, 2006, 10:46 pm
RE: What are you thinking a spelling B? -TL Al
Mar 4, 2006, 7:00 pm
And by the way TL
Mar 4, 2006, 1:35 pm
What are you thinking a spelling B? TL
Mar 4, 2006, 1:24 pm
AL -- Please Note -- Roger Poe
Mar 4, 2006, 10:33 am
RE: RE: To Carl Farm Al
Mar 4, 2006, 8:26 am
RE: To Carl Farm Al
Mar 4, 2006, 7:53 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you unde Farmers Agent
Feb 22, 2006, 2:29 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understa Marty Feinstein
Feb 22, 2006, 11:19 am
RE: RE: all the farmer's fines responses esul walker
Feb 15, 2006, 11:00 am
RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a FARMERS AGENT
Feb 15, 2006, 1:13 am
RE: RE: Response to DD Chris Russell
Feb 13, 2006, 1:05 pm
"E" you're an idiot TL
Feb 11, 2006, 9:34 pm
RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a TL
Feb 11, 2006, 7:47 pm
RE: Response to DD DD
Feb 11, 2006, 10:18 am
RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a E
Feb 11, 2006, 9:55 am
Response to DD Chris Russell
Feb 10, 2006, 7:51 pm
RE: RE: Farmers DD
Feb 10, 2006, 6:43 pm
RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a webmaster
Feb 10, 2006, 5:53 pm
RE: RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand a E
Feb 10, 2006, 12:41 pm
RE: RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand about webmaster
Feb 10, 2006, 11:22 am
RE: Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand about FIN E
Feb 10, 2006, 8:32 am
RE: Farmers HARRY GAUNT
Feb 9, 2006, 12:06 pm
Farmers was FINED. What don't you understand about FINED? Drunk Russian DM
Feb 9, 2006, 12:05 pm
nEW fig AGENT fORMER AGENT
Feb 9, 2006, 7:59 am
RE: High prices and consumer complaints new Farmers agent
Feb 8, 2006, 9:39 pm
Response to "E" Chris Russell
Feb 8, 2006, 6:37 pm
RE: RE: RE: So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG E
Feb 8, 2006, 5:48 pm
RE: RE: You all need a life webmaster
Feb 7, 2006, 8:57 pm
RE: RE: So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG Las Chris Russell
Feb 7, 2006, 5:30 pm
RE: So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG Last? Agent
Feb 7, 2006, 5:01 pm
So Consumers Reports Is Wrong When They Rank FIG Last? Val
Feb 7, 2006, 4:05 pm
RE: You all need a life E
Feb 7, 2006, 11:48 am
CA farmers insurance fines Aggravated
Feb 7, 2006, 8:13 am
RE: Satisfied customer JH
Feb 7, 2006, 7:04 am
RE: RE: RE: Farmers Rule webmaster
Feb 6, 2006, 9:11 pm
RE: farmers fine GS
Feb 6, 2006, 11:46 am
RE: RE: Farmers Chris Russell
Feb 3, 2006, 5:05 pm
Satisfied customer Ellyn
Feb 3, 2006, 4:31 pm
RE: Farmers Female Farmers Agent
Feb 3, 2006, 2:32 pm
Imagine that Ann
Feb 3, 2006, 2:21 pm
RE: Farmers Rule Farmers Agent
Feb 3, 2006, 1:46 pm
Farmers "pays quickly and fairly" Yeah right Drunk Russian DM
Feb 3, 2006, 11:33 am
RE: RE: Farmers Rule carlfarm
Feb 3, 2006, 12:29 am
RE: Farmers Rule webmaster
Feb 2, 2006, 10:47 am
RE: RE: Farmers Rule Mark
Feb 1, 2006, 5:47 pm
RE: Farmers Rule JCB
Feb 1, 2006, 5:42 pm
Farmers Rule Farmers Agent
Feb 1, 2006, 4:43 pm
To current adj: Chris Russell
Jan 31, 2006, 8:02 pm
RE: RE: Claims Former FIG Lugnut
Jan 31, 2006, 4:50 pm
no, the article says approx 1,000 violations (nice try) Drunk Russian DM
Jan 31, 2006, 4:48 pm
RE: Claims Current Farmers Agt
Jan 31, 2006, 4:39 pm
I left with Marty in 2002. Chaos in my rear view mirror. Ex Farmers Agent
Jan 31, 2006, 3:18 pm
Ex Agent JOHN M
Jan 31, 2006, 2:07 pm
response to calfarm Chris Russell
Jan 31, 2006, 1:42 pm
RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Dave
Jan 31, 2006, 9:59 am
RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines new Farmer's agent
Jan 30, 2006, 9:52 pm
RE: To Carl Farm carlfarm
Jan 30, 2006, 9:46 pm
RE: RE: RE: all the farmer's fines responses carlfarm
Jan 30, 2006, 9:39 pm
RE: RE: To Carl Farm djeam
Jan 30, 2006, 8:30 pm
RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Claims Person II
Jan 30, 2006, 6:17 pm
Re: response to j-jay Claims Person
Jan 30, 2006, 6:10 pm
Well it's Unanimous, Farmers Sucks Sal Monella
Jan 30, 2006, 6:09 pm
RE: To Carl Farm Former FIG lugnut
Jan 30, 2006, 4:47 pm
RE: RE: No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation Big Insurance
Jan 30, 2006, 4:16 pm
Great American Success Story gone South Former FIG Agent
Jan 30, 2006, 3:57 pm
RE: RE: all the farmer's fines responses Chris Russell
Jan 30, 2006, 3:28 pm
RE: all the farmer's fines responses k
Jan 30, 2006, 3:18 pm
RE: all the farmer's fines responses k
Jan 30, 2006, 3:18 pm
RE: all the farmer's fines responses j.jay
Jan 30, 2006, 2:45 pm
RE: all the farmer's fines responses Chris Russell
Jan 30, 2006, 12:37 pm
FarmersInsuranceGroupSucks.com webmaster
Jan 29, 2006, 5:04 pm
Farmers Insurance is the Worst!! webmaster
Jan 29, 2006, 4:49 pm
RE: all the farmer's fines responses DD
Jan 29, 2006, 3:47 pm
all the farmer's fines responses new Farmers agent
Jan 29, 2006, 2:28 pm
To Carl Farm Djean
Jan 29, 2006, 12:13 pm
Reply To Carl Farm Roger Poe
Jan 28, 2006, 10:07 am
Farmers Increasing Agent Commissions Nuff Said
Jan 27, 2006, 11:22 pm
RE: Farmers Named In 2 Billion Dollar Fraud Lawsuit carlfarm
Jan 27, 2006, 4:42 pm
Farmers Named In 2 Billion Dollar Fraud Lawsuit Roger Poe
Jan 27, 2006, 1:39 pm
AAA almond
Jan 27, 2006, 11:20 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a Stat guy
Jan 27, 2006, 8:32 am
Chris, Apology accepted. Jim
Jan 27, 2006, 8:29 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a cla carlfarm
Jan 26, 2006, 5:46 pm
RE: Get off the soap box. Chris Russell
Jan 26, 2006, 4:31 pm
Melinda Ballard. Mark
Jan 26, 2006, 4:24 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims Mark
Jan 26, 2006, 4:22 pm
RE: RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims adju carlfarm
Jan 26, 2006, 10:42 am
RE: Get off the soap box. carlfarm
Jan 26, 2006, 10:16 am
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines DD
Jan 26, 2006, 5:49 am
RE: Get off the soap box. Mark
Jan 25, 2006, 11:27 pm
Get off the soap box. Jim
Jan 25, 2006, 9:38 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Chris Russell
Jan 25, 2006, 8:51 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines DD
Jan 25, 2006, 8:11 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Chris Russell
Jan 25, 2006, 7:43 pm
RE: farmers fine Chris
Jan 25, 2006, 7:13 pm
Farmers ranks high in the Hall of Shame for bad faith too.. Patty from Pleasanton Svc Ctr
Jan 25, 2006, 6:01 pm
RE: RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims adju Mark
Jan 25, 2006, 5:59 pm
RE: RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims adjuster Mark
Jan 25, 2006, 5:55 pm
RE: RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines CARLFARM
Jan 25, 2006, 5:43 pm
farmers fine dm
Jan 25, 2006, 5:41 pm
RE: I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims adjuster wit CARLFARM
Jan 25, 2006, 5:35 pm
RE: RE: No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation CARLFARM
Jan 25, 2006, 5:31 pm
Consumer Reports Sept '04 "Farmers rated last in CA" Drunk Russian DM
Jan 25, 2006, 5:24 pm
RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Chris
Jan 25, 2006, 5:05 pm
RE: Fine Nancy
Jan 25, 2006, 3:14 pm
I'm insured with farmers and i am a claims adjuster with AA insured w/ farmer i hate them
Jan 25, 2006, 11:11 am
RE: RE: No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation Doug
Jan 25, 2006, 9:47 am
RE: Farmers Insurance ins guy
Jan 25, 2006, 8:03 am
RE: RE: No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation Alexander D.H. Ferguson
Jan 24, 2006, 9:52 pm
RE: No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation Mark
Jan 24, 2006, 9:26 pm
No wonder they've fallen to 8th place in the nation Farmers fined again eh?
Jan 24, 2006, 5:05 pm
RE: RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Jim
Jan 24, 2006, 4:00 pm
RE: RE: Farmer Insurance Fines carlfarm
Jan 24, 2006, 2:34 pm
RE: Farmer Insurance Fines Martin
Jan 24, 2006, 2:20 pm
Fine "found" agent
Jan 24, 2006, 2:04 pm
Farmer Insurance Fines bb
Jan 24, 2006, 12:52 pm
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