Feds to Audit N.J. Gov. Christie’s Use of Sandy Relief Funds

January 13, 2014

  • January 13, 2014 at 1:19 pm
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    While you are at it, investigate the millions Hillary and Obuma spent telling us it was a video. What a joke!

  • January 13, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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    Where is the right wing noise machine on this story? I’m just so shocked I’m not hearing much on the conservative stations about this. Instead, they are busy making comments like Jack’s above. Talk about a joke! How about some consistency?

    • January 13, 2014 at 1:32 pm
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      Actually, most of the right abandoned Christie when he dared take a photo looking friendly with Obama. Check out drudge…they’re no fans of his.

      That being said, it does seem like a double standard on how much attention is being paid to Christie vs the man Obama “non-scandals”…

      • January 13, 2014 at 1:34 pm
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        meant to say MANY Obama “non-scandals.” My sincere apologies.

      • January 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm
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        I hope they do audit the books. If he is clean, he doesn’t have anything to worry about. If not, he could end up like the mayor of the Chocolate city (New Orleans) where all kinds of corruption was going on after Katrina. He was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury, but I don’t know when he will be tried. Here is hoping he doesn’t see the light of day again.

        • January 13, 2014 at 2:37 pm
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          Chocolate City? Is that a racial remark, Agent? Otherwise, the Chocolate City is Hershy, PA.

          • January 13, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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            Libby- Washington was called chocolate city, but good try with the race card…Bigot!

          • January 13, 2014 at 2:44 pm
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            I guess any city with African Americans as the majority population is Chocolate City to you guys.

            Me, I’ll stick to Hershy.

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:25 pm
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            Libby- I like Chocolate….dark chocolate actually.

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm
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            Libby, that didn’t come from me. Ray Nagin, former mayor of New Orleans and now indicted for corruption was proud to name his city that back in the day when he was in power. By the way, Hershey’s moved their manufacturing of chocolate from Hershey, PA to Mexico some years ago or didn’t you hear?

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:42 pm
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            Hershey’s still Chocolate City, Agent. Huge plant still there, Hershey Park, Chocolate World, Chocolate Avenue… It is, and always will be, Chocolate City to me.

          • January 13, 2014 at 4:26 pm
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            Agent,

            Hershey’s has 7 (soon to be 8) factories and only 1 is in Mexico. 2, and a 3rd to open soon, are in Hershey, PA

            https://www.thehersheycompany.com/about-hershey/manufacturing-network.aspx

            Proving you wrong is becoming so easy, it isn’t even fun any more.

      • January 13, 2014 at 3:40 pm
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        So, Governor Christie was abandoned because his state sustained a catastrophe for which he would need federal aid to rebuild and embraced the President of the United States who was going to help the citizens of New Jersey. And, by the way, Republican Governor Christie won re-election by a landslide in a Democtratic-leaning state partly becasue of this approach to help thiose who voted for him.

        That is my problem with Conservatives. They are more concerned about image and ideology than getting elected and fixing our problems. It is so much easier to sit on the sidelines, complain, and do nothing. At least Conservatives are good at something.

        • January 14, 2014 at 2:21 pm
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          Ron I would argue that Liberals are just as concerned about their image and ideology. Both parties are about preserving their specific images and can’t be bothered with actual results and really fixing problems. I guess results are just not important in any aspect of the government/political arena regardless of political preference. It just amazes me how many failures occur in the government sector that lead to zero repercussion, be it a politician’s, public employee’s or public program’s failures. Private sector would never get away with those poor results/failures, they would end up fired or even in some cases in prison. But my point is pinning that accusation on just one party seems a bit biased (even if not intended).

          • January 14, 2014 at 3:52 pm
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            LiveFree,

            I could not agree with you more. Anyone who can actually comprehend my posts would know that I do not like Conservatives, Republicans, Liberals or Democrats. I am an Independent who is fiscally Conservative and socially Liberal. Agent will tell you that is impossible, but what he doesn’t want to come to grips with is that there are more people like me than him.

            The reason I specified Conservatives in this case is because Ralph mentioned how the right abandoned Governor Christie because he had the audacity to embrace President Obama at a time when he was more concerned about the citizens of New Jersey than politics. How dare he.

            Governor Christie is one of the few potential Presidential candidates for whom I can forsee my voting because he does not bow to either side. I also like Representative Ryan.

          • January 15, 2014 at 2:37 pm
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            Ron, I understand, I didn’t see the post before about Christie embracing Obama.

            A lot of people would say a fiscally conservative and socially liberal independent is called a Libertarian. I know better as a Libertarian may appear that way on most issues but they can’t truly be painted into either category.

            I don’t know enough about Christie to comment on if I would support him but I will look into his voting history and platform, color me intrigued. But I am not a fan of Ryan at all.

    • January 13, 2014 at 1:50 pm
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      Hey Captain- if you would listen to something other than msnbc you would realize most true conservatives kicked him to the curb a long time ago. It’s only the unNews stations that were pushing him to run in 2016.

      • January 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm
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        • January 13, 2014 at 2:34 pm
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          Agent- sometimes I think Libby just sits there and hits the thumbs down button as fast as her little fingers will go.

          • January 13, 2014 at 2:39 pm
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            Not me, Jack. I wish I knew how to do that, though.

          • January 13, 2014 at 2:42 pm
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            If it were me, your comments would be hidden for sure! :-)

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:22 pm
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            libby- just like a democrat- cant handle truth so shut it down. We know Libby, we know.

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:27 pm
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            Actually, Jack, it’s a practice of the right on this blog. I am repeatedly censored by Sarge, as is Celtica. Personllay, I’m not into burning books and depriving others of their right to free speech.

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm
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            libby- you just told me you would hide my comments 3 post up. and you said it with an !. Or did someone hack your account?

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:40 pm
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            :)

          • January 13, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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            It was a joke, Jack. Thus the :-) after the remark. Lighten up Frances.

      • January 13, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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        Jack,
        I don’t watch MSNBC. I listen to Glenn Beck, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage (on an almost daily basis). When Chris Bradshaw has a show (local guy), I listen to him as well. I realize some Faux News conservatives kicked him to the curb when he worked with The President to solve problems (strange concept for those on the Right, I know). Yet, I also know many conservatives who believe Christie is the best shot at winning the 2016 election. Besides, a scandal is a scandal and Faux News has no problem following them. That is, unless the scandal is brewing on their side of the aisle. Then it’s crickets.

      • January 14, 2014 at 5:47 pm
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        Ron, you have already admitted to being two faced on another blog, so sorry you aren’t taken seriously on this blog. A two faced Independent who says they believe partly Conservative and partly liberal is someone who is so conflicted, they can never make up their mind right up to election day. I am tired of Republicans trying to pander to your side. On positions, they are darned if they do, darned if they don’t. There is no pleasing to a two faced Independent.

        • January 14, 2014 at 6:53 pm
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          Agent,

          That is what Independents do and why both parties try to court us for our vote. We are not blind followers of anybody.

          I am not conflicted at all. Fiscally, I believe in smaller government, less spending, lower taxes, less regulations and balanced budgets. Socially, I believe government should not define marriage between 2 consenting adults, allow women the freedom to decide what is best for them and their bodies, religious freedom equals freedom from religion, and the 2nd Amendment is not absolute.

          However, you would need to be open-minded to understand that. Too bad you are a blind follower of Conservatism and Republicans.

          If Republicans actually act like fiscal conservatives and not increase spending, run up more debt and deficits the next time they are in power, they will win with me. It is just that simple.

          • January 15, 2014 at 8:47 am
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            Ditto. What he said.

          • January 15, 2014 at 10:08 am
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          • January 15, 2014 at 10:20 am
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            Agent,

            Typical Conservative Republican, as soons as something goes agianst your personal beliefs, government becomes more important and freedom less important.

            What part of “religious freedom = freedom from religion” do you not understand?

            Whenever you allow religious beliefs dictate law you are going against the Constitution, period.

            When is the last time you stoned a gay person? If you haven’t, why are you disobeying God? I guess we all know where you are going.

          • January 15, 2014 at 10:32 am
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            “Let the one who is without sin throw the first stone.” – Jesus

            Jesus never says a word about homosexuality, but there was one kind of sin that he spoke out against all the time. There was one kind of sin that got Jesus really mad. This was the sin of religious people who shut out those in need of mercy. This was the sin of people who used the Bible as a weapon. You hear Jesus saying this on page after page of the gospels. Why? Because this type of sin has the potential to damage people like few other things do. It is particularly damaging because they claim to be speaking for God. So if we really want to speak out against sin, we as Christians need to speak out against the kind of sin that Jesus did, and side with the kinds of folks he did. – Derek Flood

  • January 13, 2014 at 1:39 pm
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    A distraction…..it’s like magic!

    Another Obamanation duck and weave………..

    • January 13, 2014 at 2:19 pm
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      Just what does Obama have to do with any of this?

      • January 13, 2014 at 2:37 pm
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        Libby- Obuma has nothing to do with anything. And that’s a quote from Obuma himself. I think he played the german in Hogans Heros.

      • January 13, 2014 at 3:48 pm
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        Well, Obama made his radio address last weekend and says he will focus on jobs in 2014. It sounds a lot like 09,10,11,12,13 when he was going to focus like a laser on jobs. He even said the last thing he thought about when he went to bed and first thing in the morning was jobs. Of course, he didn’t forget to urge Congress to extend unemployment benefits for the chronically unemployed that have used up their 99 weeks. How many recovery summers have we had now, 5? I am sure 2014 will be different. Dream on America. The EPA has passed another round of regulations to guarantee no new jobs will be created and if that doesn’t work, Obamacare will do the trick. Small business has no chance.

        • January 13, 2014 at 4:12 pm
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          Agent – I remember in early 2009 hearing that the recovery was going to take AT LEAST 5 years and thinking “No way! It will happen faster than that!” Well, it looks like they were right. Maybe you don’t have a realistic view of just how bad it was in 2008.

          • January 13, 2014 at 5:03 pm
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            With the solutions they have tried or anticipate trying, this economy will never recover. Look what happened to the Stimulus that was not a stimulus. A trillion down the rat hole and no shovel ready jobs. Even Obama had to admit that failure. Cash for Clunkers? $20 billion cost to the taxpayers. GM/Chrysler Bailout? $10 Billion cost to taxpayers and just protected union jobs. What about West Virginia who is being systematically shut down due to coal regulations? Creating jobs? He did create 500 new jobs with Blue Cross. They had to hire 500 more phone people to answer the phone about Obamacare problems.

          • January 13, 2014 at 5:20 pm
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            By the way Libby, only 75,000 jobs created in December almost 6 years into the recovery and the lowest labor participation rate in 36 years. What does that tell you about the jobs program of this administration? It took Ronny about 3 years to get the economy rolling again from the largesse and inaction of Carter.

          • January 14, 2014 at 9:05 am
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            And, it took ol’ Ronny’s economic trickle down philosophy 30+ years to create the largest wealth gap in the history of the world which has resulted in a problem with demand (people can’t afford goods so they are buying them) which has led to companies not hiring because they are keeping up with their supply needs. And, that speaks to your point about only 75,000 jobs created. I guess it beats the number of jobs we were LOSING each month during the economic crisis. A positive number is a positive number. Not good enough, but positive none the less.

          • January 14, 2014 at 11:34 am
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            *aren’t buying them

  • January 13, 2014 at 1:53 pm
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    I think he could change to a Democrat and run against Killary in 2016.

    • January 14, 2014 at 10:23 am
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      Planet, still trotting out that same old post slamming Ronny after he recovered the economy from your hero Carter? Progressive policies are responsible for poor job creation, not Reaganomics. I suppose you really liked Carteromics which provided no incentives to business at all. That’s right, you weren’t alive back during the dark days of Carter so you have no idea how it was back then. Those of us who were really had to scramble with 21% interest rates, stagflation, no energy policy, poor job market. The nation was overjoyed when Reagan took office and he wasted no time doing the things necessary to recover the economy. What we have now is Carteromics on steroids, almost negative growth, no job market, the specter of ever increasing taxes and somehow you think that is a good thing. No wonder people think you are from another planet.

      • January 14, 2014 at 11:12 am
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        I suppose you really like the gap between the rich and poor widening so much there is no middle class anymore. Pretty soon we will all be beholden to the 1% that own and run this country. You are so weighed down with your dogma you can’t even see what’s happening to this country. And it’s not because of Progressive policies. It’s because of the political strategy “to promote corporate profit at the expense of the public good.” All funded and driven by members of the 1%.

        • January 14, 2014 at 2:46 pm
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          Agent- The continually myth of the success of Reganmoics and it’s association with capitalism is hurting capitalism to the people that don’t understand how he was not a capitalist. Libby and Captain are right about the divide in classes because of his phony “tax cut” as taxes rose for most people: see “Bracket Creep” and “Social Security Tax.”

          We have discussed this before and you provide no good counter arguments. Also, aside from the taxes, please explain how the following are successes for Reagan: 1) In 1980, the last year of Jimmy Carter the federal government spent $591 billion. In 1986, the last recorded year of the Reagan administration, the federal government spent $990 billion, an increase of 68%. 2) Jimmy Carter habitually ran deficits of $40-50 billion and, by the end, up to $74 billion; but by 1984, when Reagan had promised to achieve a balanced budget, the deficit had settled down comfortably to about $200 billion.

          Libby- You are on the track that their is a wealth divide that is increasing in this country but I think it is unfair to pin it all on corporate greed/profit. For that greed not enabled by favorable regulations from backdoor deals, lobbying, and cronyism via the government wouldn’t be possible at all! Profit is a beautiful thing if you take away the government and it’s ability to restrict competition. Also another factor is the Federal Reserve providing cheap/easy money to banks and other special interests in effect drastically reducing the purchasing power of everyone who is not a first receiver of the new money.

          • January 14, 2014 at 3:05 pm
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            LiveFree – Backdoor deals, lobbying, and cronyism via the government is made possible by the enormous amounts of cash available to the 1%. THEY own and run this government. Our puppet polticians are led around by the nose and are controlled by them. It’s always all about the money…

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm
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            Libby- Well either way then it is a case of which came first the chicken or the egg. I agree with you on everything you just said. My point is that people have the power to change government (in theory) but I don’t see people changing the fact they want to make a profit.

            They are puppets and they will always be puppets as long as power corrupts. The “1%” has the money to pay for that corrupt power to be on there side and that should not be available to them. I have no problem with there being a 1% (mathematically there always was and will be). But profits that are made without the help of government manipulation in the market won’t cause such a divide in classes.

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:26 pm
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            Agree whole-heartedly. What can we do to change it? I’m at a loss notwithstanding a national revolution.

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:47 pm
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            My solution: A national revolution lol. That is what is really needed. My personal preference is a radical one to most, which is no government at all. However ideally a small one would be best but I don’t trust a small government to not soon become a big one that is being bought and sold again. But IMO a society without a government (or a much smaller one) would certainly eliminate politician puppets and I think it could run much more efficiently. Anyway, regardless of my personal desires for the country I really think something like a revolution is the only solution. Hopefully I am wrong and someone much smarter and in a better position to act knows a better way to fix this.

            Here is a random hypothetical example/thought: Even if a someone became president and he was not bought, it would mean little to nothing in the long run. Hell even if he was elected at the same time that a whole congress was elected that also weren’t bought (yeah right) they would have to make drastic changes to government policy to vastly limit their powers and put in place barriers to resurrect those powers. Why you ask? So the next ones in charge can’t sell their power to the “1%”. But to me that is impossible. No matter what a government will grow and assume more power, all in the guise of being good for the people, and even if it really is at the time good for everyone (nothing can really be good for everyone) eventually it will just be a barging chip for them to tempt a financially sound special interest group.

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm
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            Are you advocating no federal government, but keeping a state government? Because without any government, I’m afraid there would be anarchy and the strong would overpower the weak. What about our national defense? What would stop another government from overtaking our country and making it theirs?

            No. I think revolution it is. Viva la revolucion!

          • January 15, 2014 at 1:17 pm
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            I am saying no government and in fact mean anarchy. Anarchy is only demonized by people that doesn’t really understand it. It is not about people wanting the wild west or Somalia. It is people that think private controls are more effective and less apt to corruption than government/public controls. Your fear is a very common one that has been discussed thoroughly by people that are interested in what an Anarchist society would become. I won’t even pretend to try to convey that I could explain it clearly to anyone so here a link to a related article: http://mises.org/daily/1855

          • January 15, 2014 at 2:25 pm
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            I know it may be asking too much to ask for here but I would love comments (even brief ones) along with all the thumbs down. I am interested in what people are disagreeing with me on.

          • January 15, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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            I glanced through the article you sent, but didn’t have time to read it in depth. It appears the author is talking about private defense and security v. government. Not sure how that would work, but I’m not against the concept. I guess the Constitution goes out the window???

          • January 15, 2014 at 4:01 pm
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            Libby- Yes that is what the article is about and I posted that article because that is what the debates over the fear you described (a power taking over) usually come to. It is an interesting and complex issue to be sure.

            To be more broad (which I should have been to start)here is an article from the same site about why people are interested in anarchy (anarcho-capitalism): http://mises.org/daily/6601/Why-I-Am-an-AnarchoCapitalist

          • January 16, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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          • January 17, 2014 at 8:04 am
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            Agent,

            Please elaborate on how leagalizing pot has screwed up CO? You mean like recalling 2 state senators that voted for stricter gun laws? Now they are going after a third which would put the Republicans in control of the state Senate.

            http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/1008/Colorado-recall-bid-targets-third-state-senator-who-backed-gun-control

            On second thought, you are right, they are becoming more screwed up. You Republicans sure are funny.

            If you are close to being Libertarian, you would be against President Reagan’s policies. Please find me one Libertarian group that supports President Reagan’s policies. Not the man or his words, his policies. I can give you a couple prominient groups that are aginst his policies.

            Here you go again.

            http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=488
            http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/ronald-reagan-was-no-libertarian

          • January 17, 2014 at 8:59 am
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            Ron,

            I have tried to get Agent to explain his admiration for Reagan but I never got any arguments of substance to counter mine. Maybe he will for you though.

            Also +100! for the mises link! Love that site. Even if I don’t agree with an article on there (which I admit is rare) I still appreciate the refreshing views they provide on mainstream topics.

          • January 17, 2014 at 9:01 am
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            Oh, Ron. You are going to get slapped down hard by Agent for using those sources. LOL!

          • January 17, 2014 at 9:07 am
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            Agent,

            You can’t be “close” to Libertarian and be a die hard republican. It just shows you know nothing of the Libertarian party. The fact that you become biased with me because I agree with portions of someone’s arguments (Libby’s) is very telling to how you operate (see “close-minded”).

            I don’t feel the need to define myself as being Libertarian or Anarchist. I am interested in both and I closely follow the work of both movements. Why do you need to label me? To misquote something from Fox about the one I say I am? How about instead you just make this a grown up discussion and answer me (and now Ron) about you thoughts on Reagan?

          • January 17, 2014 at 10:14 am
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            Also Agent,

            I assume an “OWS” troll stands for Occupy Wall Street? If so it is absolutely hilarious to me that is what you think you might be able to pin me down in favor of. Even more proof you just don’t know how to label me and know nothing of Libertarian, Anrachist, or independent views. If it’s not Republican/Democrat or Liberal/Conservative your mind can’t comprehend.

            Also would love to know the specific views that I am “way off” on. Your vagueness is ridiculous. Enlighten me oh wise neoconservative one.

      • January 14, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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        Let’s not forget, prior to Carter taking over, Tricky Dicky removed us from the gold standard and putting us on the oil standard which in turn threw off any stability our currency had at that time, and couple it with the travisty called the Vietnam War and you had a master plan for disaster. Carter wasn’t about to use our military to boost our economy. All Pope Ron did was create a culture of paranoia, most of which created by the copious amounts of cocaine and other narcotics that were popular at the time, (the other half of the Iran Contra Affair that isn’t talked about as much) as well as help the Hollywood industry during the 80′s with anti-communist propaganda that would never be a threat in any industrialized nation. Hence movies like Red Dawn were created and many conservatives had nowhere to go but under their beds with their 8 balls of blow to comfort them.

        • January 14, 2014 at 2:49 pm
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          Great post! Especially about the gold standard. I think that was the single worst thing a president has ever done to the economy.

          • January 14, 2014 at 3:07 pm
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            Thanks,
            It’s hard to believe after all these years, people can still get a hard on over a B Actor that was good at reading lines, but that was about it. He was a corporate rat in Hollywood that turned his back on his people and did it all to please the Davis Family aka the Koch Family of the 50′s who were largely behind financing the red scare. Then his economic policy was to turn the reins and reigns over to corporate ‘murrica and 30 years we live in a fascist state, not a socialist state.

          • January 14, 2014 at 3:09 pm
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            I agree. Pretty soon we’ll be plugging up holes in our walls and shingling our roofs with hundred dollar bills because they will be worthless. Nobody even knows if there is enough gold in Ft. Knox to back up all that has been lended to the Bullion Banks. Once they start calling it all in, the whole world economy will be screwed.

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:27 pm
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            Make sure you plug your holes!! The frat boys from the Right are on their way and it’s initiation time!!!!

          • January 14, 2014 at 4:37 pm
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            I’m afraid the frat boys will be no better off than the rest of us. Wait until they find out they’re now part of the 99%. And all the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again; no Humpty for the frat boys. :-(

  • January 13, 2014 at 3:11 pm
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    lmaf- Obama approved the adds. cant make this stuff up.

    • January 13, 2014 at 3:59 pm
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      Jack, was that a payback for Christie giving him a hug on the beach and playing games at the arcade. As I recall, Obama took his turn trying to knock over bottles and couldn’t hit anything with his girly guy arm. Christie at least knocked them down. By the way, the boardwalk had a big fire shortly after it had been rebuilt with Sandy funds. Perhaps they forgot to use fire resistant materials when they rebuilt.

      • January 13, 2014 at 4:14 pm
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        So you would have rather had Christy snub the President and get no funds for his State? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!

        • January 13, 2014 at 4:57 pm
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          That was merely a photo op Libby for the President to look good for caring about New Jersey. He promised to cut the red tape to get aid right out. A good part of the aid has still not been given to people to rebuild what was damaged. So much for cutting the bureaucratic red tape.

          • January 14, 2014 at 1:59 pm
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            It surprises me you sit here and bash Gov. Christie for doing what he did to help his state, yet you say nothing about Gov. Perry in Texas holding his hand out when that fertilizer plant exploded….

        • January 13, 2014 at 5:00 pm
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          When a state has a major calamity, like NJ did with Sandy, you should not have to kiss a$$ to get funds. Unfortunately, instead of government being there for people in times of disaster, aid is doled out like favors, for those that play the game. At least Christy took immediate action and fired the two top aides orchestrating this. And over in the WH, Sebilius lives on, Lois Lerner went unpunished and we have all sorts of ‘phony scandals’ being swept under the rug by our president so we can focus on traffic jams. One guy takes responsibility and one says I know nothing and now that I do know about it, it’s all a phony scandal.

          • January 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm
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            Hey TXLady, Do you remember when Sandy struck and disaster people from the south went up there to help restore power and provide aid to them, they were met at the border by the unions and when they replied they weren’t union, they were told to turn around and go back. Boy, those unions are sure nice people to deal with. I am not sure the N/E is worth saving and the next storm that comes along, they are on their own.

          • January 14, 2014 at 9:07 am
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            Tx Lady wrote, “When a state has a major calamity, like NJ did with Sandy, you should not have to kiss a$$ to get funds. Unfortunately, instead of government being there for people in times of disaster, aid is doled out like favors, for those that play the game. At least Christy took immediate action and fired the two top aides orchestrating this. And over in the WH, Sebilius lives on, Lois Lerner went unpunished and we have all sorts of ‘phony scandals’ being swept under the rug by our president so we can focus on traffic jams. One guy takes responsibility and one says I know nothing and now that I do know about it, it’s all a phony scandal.”

            And, this is your brain on Fox News…any questions?

          • January 14, 2014 at 12:30 pm
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            Agent,

            As long as Southerners stay out of the North there shouldn’t be any more issues in the Northeast. It’s called Tornado Bait, a condition native to the Bible Belt but it migrates with it’s people. It can follow country music acts as well as professional wrestling circuits and their tour busses. It’s the Wrath of God from all the dirty living of the South. The culture of the south like Honey Boo Boo and the Klan, Larry the Cable Guy and the Git ‘er Done Gang. For just $19 a day, won’t you help rid the South of Tornado Bait? Make a donation to you local school for books, and other learnin’ materials.

        • January 14, 2014 at 11:24 am
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          So, you have to kiss his #@@ for him to give relief funds to hurricane-ravaged coast? Shouldn’t that relief be available regardless of the party of the governor/president?

          • January 14, 2014 at 11:52 am
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            No you don’t have to kiss his ass. But what’s wrong with being polite, gracious, and a little grateful? Common courtesy just isn’t common anymore.

          • January 15, 2014 at 10:34 am
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            It’s funny mouthbreatherwhatever. I don’t remember anyone from the north ever going down to help Florida after a hurricane or Alabama when they had tornados. They are not into helping anyone other than themselves. When the Oklahoma tornados devastated Moore, Oklahoma, Okla City, people poured in from several surrounding states to help in aid and clearing debris, providing food, water to the victims. Churches and civic groups did a lot during that time. We actually have a heart in the South.

          • January 15, 2014 at 10:54 am
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            Well, I remember bringing blankets, clothing and water to the plethora of trucks in my CT neighborhood for Hurricane Andrew. The South has no more heart than any other region.

          • January 15, 2014 at 12:58 pm
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            Agent,

            The North can only provide so many resources for only so long for South ‘Murrica. The North has overpaid their share bailing out South ‘Murrica generation after generation. We loaded the South up with military bases during the Reconstruction Period in order to provide the financial stability and now a majority of our tax dollars go to fund the largest government program we have. The North has provided most of the financial aid South ‘Murrica has received storm after storm, there’s just no other source. When the roles are reversed there should never be an objection to funding the aid of the economic epicenter of America. The heart you talk about is only as good as a good person that does good deeds would do the same deed anonymously, with out a tax write off, or without looking for converts or sales leads. That’s the snake oil salesmen lifestyle of the South. The South has been ripping its own people off for way too long in order to keep the wealthy rich by making the dumb dumber. That doesn’t fly in the North. It would be great to be able to take time off and travel across the nether regions to help out, but then again we in the North have two national economies to worry about, North and South. Being that you have all the extra time in your day that allows you to take ice tea breaks and judge pecan pie contests, we delegate that to our brothers and sisters to the South. Remember, help rid your region of Tornado Bait and clean up the lifestyle down there so we don’t have to keep having this discussion.

  • January 14, 2014 at 12:46 pm
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    Larry the cable guy is from Nebraska. And Libby, no you should not have to be “grateful” to your government for disaster aid. There should be no tit for tat, but unfortunately, that is not how politics work. What should be, just isn’t in Washington. No civility, just payoffs, payback, and scandals on both sides of the aisle. No wonder there is so much dysfunction.

    • January 14, 2014 at 1:33 pm
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      How about grateful that the President took the time to come to your State to see for himself the kind of damage you sustained? Is that not just being civil?? It’s not tit for tat. It’s about common courtesy, decency, and manners. I am always a gracious hostess when people come to visit my home. Especially if they come bearing gifts. Too bad everyone wasn’t raised that way.

      • January 14, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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        Libby, did you forget that Obama actually said he would see that aid would be given to “Monroe” Oklahoma in the wake of last years tornados? He is so detached he can’t even get the name right even though it was national news for several weeks. I don’t remember him visiting Texas after a disaster. He did come for a fundraiser and another time to help dedicate GW’s library. I know that ticked you off about that.

        • January 14, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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          Agent – Obama probably didn’t come to Texas because there is certainly no hospitality coming from that state. Just be happy he came when he did. And no, I’m not ticked off that he went to GW’s library, as I’m sure it was a very short visit. LOL!

          • January 14, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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            Only every living ex President attended Libby along with the current one. Carter didn’t even know where he was, but he was there along with HW who also didn’t know where he was. Those guys are pretty frail now. Had you seen it, you would have seen a large crowd that attended. The security was massive for miles in both directions.

          • January 15, 2014 at 8:49 am
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            Maybe, but I’m sure it was very short. Dubya + Library = very small library. LOL!

  • January 15, 2014 at 10:19 am
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    Actually, it is a pretty large library and very nice. I have been there. It is very modern with a lot of interactive displays and history of his 8 years. The least impressive Presidential library is LBJ’s in Austin. BORING! I have no interest in traveling to Clinton’s in Little Rock. In fact, I wish the Arkansas river would flood and carry it down stream.

    • January 15, 2014 at 10:39 am
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      You’re an idiot. Clinton was a Rhodes scholar. Dubya had to buy his way through Yale.

      “How did Bush get into Yale?” It wasn’t because of any academic achievement: his high school record was ordinary. It wasn’t because of his life experience–prosperous family, fancy prep school–which was all too familiar at Yale. It wasn’t his SAT scores: 566 verbal and 640 math.

      They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influential family. Affirmative action for a boy from a fancy prep school. These forms of affirmative action still go on.”

      Clinton’s intellect runs circles around Dubya’s.

      • January 15, 2014 at 11:38 am
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        Libby, are you talking about the disbarred, impeached but not removed former President who lied in front of a Federal Grand Jury about the intern under his desk? In fact, he never lied unless his lips moved. How did your current President get into Harvard with his undistinguished record at Occidental College? Where are his college transcripts? Why are they sealed from view? Who funded him? It certainly wasn’t from his mother or family who had no money.

        • January 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm
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          1) If the worse Clinton lied about was a bj from Monica, I have no problem with that. It’s nobody’s business anyway. If every man that lied about that was punished, we’d have very few men among us.
          2) Dubya’s lie cost us thousands of lives and billions of dollars.
          3) Obama had no money to buy his way into Harvard. He relied on his intelligence and past record at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. He was also President of the Harvard Law Review. Quite a distinguished academic record compared to your homegrown turd, GW.

          • January 15, 2014 at 4:31 pm
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            Libby, you and badmouthbreather should take a happy pill and just shut up for a while. It is clear that both of you are very unhappy people with a lot of stress in your lives. Your posts are way off the charts terrible.

          • January 15, 2014 at 4:43 pm
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            Right back atcha Agent.

          • January 16, 2014 at 9:12 am
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            Thanks Agent, even I gave you a like for that post. No stress or anger here, I just enjoy responding to posts about Texico and supply side politics. When I post, I kind of get that same feeling you get when you look up at your ceiling every night and see that poster above your bed of Ron Reagan in a pair of jeans. My posts can be brash but they are intended that way. I won’t pull any punches like they do on Fox and Friends or The Five. You should watch the Daily Show Parody on the Five by the way. Great satire on the infidelities of the short skirted sorority panel.

      • January 17, 2014 at 9:31 am
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        Libby, I will make a deal with you. If you can unseal Obama’s records from either Columbia or Hartford assuming he went there, I will stack GW’s records up against his and we will see who has the best GPA and what they took in college.

        • January 17, 2014 at 11:57 am
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          First, few modern presidents have released their transcripts nor are they under any obligation to do so. Not releasing them does not mean the person has something to hide.

          Second, regarding his college grades, there is something that we do know: his grades from Harvard Law School. It is public record, and was reported in the press of that time (1991) that he graduated in the top 10% of his class and received academic honors (Magna Cum Laude). His professors also have said publicly that he was a top student, which is why he became the editor of the Harvard Law Review.

          Dubya = Mediocre Student Obama – Magna Cum Laude

          I don’t think there’s any question about who’s grades are better.

          • January 17, 2014 at 1:57 pm
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          • January 17, 2014 at 2:19 pm
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            Realist – I’m not as dumb as you think I am, but I do know that Obama’s college transcripts have nothing to do with the cost of tea in China anymore than they do anything else. While I know it is impossible for you neocons to admit to ANY positive aspect of Mr. Obama, his academic record speaks for itself.

            And he WAS born in Hawaii. His grandfather was in WWII and yes, he made a gaffe when he said 57 states. Big deal. Shall we compare the number of Obama gaffes to Dubya’s?

            Reaganomics caused the largest wealth disparity this country has ever seen – all in just 30 years.

            Beside Reagan/Bush Obama is a Rhodes scholar. Oh, yeah! Clinton really was one! LOL!!!

    • January 15, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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      Great, just what we need, more Northern aid to the South



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