Applying for Obama Health Care Plan Daunting Task

By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar & Jennifer Agiesta | March 14, 2013

  • March 14, 2013 at 11:39 am
    Always Amazed says:
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    “And it’s a mandate, not a suggestion. The law says virtually all Americans must carry health insurance starting next year, although most will just keep the coverage they now have through their jobs, Medicare or Medicaid.” Pfftt! Keep the same coveage they have now through thier jobs. BS! Not for small businesses. We’re going to get some cheepo plan that will not even come close to the plan we have now. Thank you Obama. Next step socialize heath insuarnce because that’s where Obama exactly wants it to go. Wake up people.

    • March 14, 2013 at 1:25 pm
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      • March 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm
        Agent says:
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        Not, you should ask someone from Great Britain how theirs has worked for them. Their Healthcare system is broke and in a shambles and they have laid off 300,000 healthcare workers in recent years. They no longer treat the elderly that develop a serious illness and prefer to put them on the “Pathway to Death” which is legalized euthanasia. I don’t call that better average results. Canadians can’t get treatment in a timely manner so they come to the US for their operations. They won’t be able to do that much longer with this turkey in place.

      • March 14, 2013 at 5:14 pm
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        Which countries might that be? I have travelled a big part of the world and have not found any country that has socialized medicine and has lower costs and better healthcare. For example, there is a lot of Canadians who cross the border into Michigan to get care they can’t get in Canada. They say it sucks.

    • March 14, 2013 at 2:12 pm
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      I saw this on a separate site the other day and was wondering when IJ would publish it. I thought the Blue Cross 4 pager asked a lot of questions. Try 15 pages on for size. My guess is that most of the brain dead liberal folks out there will have to have their hand held to get through this abominable application and HHS will have to hire 10,000 more “navigators” to walk them through it. Then, they will have to waive the premium for them since it won’t be affordable. Hello taxpayers, guess who will foot the bill.

      • March 15, 2013 at 4:00 pm
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        “It’s unclear who would pay for these navigators.”

        This part made me laugh out loud.

    • March 14, 2013 at 2:20 pm
      John McCane says:
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      The Obama Health Care Program:
      Passed by morons, written for geniuses!

  • March 14, 2013 at 1:29 pm
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  • March 14, 2013 at 1:46 pm
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    With over 50+ years in the I nsurance business –Licensed [all 50 states] Nationwide –I have delt with thousands of P&C and L&H clients–for business and personnal Insurance.I would strongly suggest that; [1. ALL APPLICANTS BE “PRESENTED” THE SAME BASIC HEALTH PLAN –in response to a completed application. This will satisfy most applicants. Thos that may want a quote for some other option can seperatly make a request for plan #2. Plan #3; Plan #4 and so on. 85% will accept the recommended STANDARD PBENEFIT PROGRAM. This will make life a lot simpler for everyone during start up. Changes can be made later–or at renewal. There needs to be only simple DECISSIONS that need to be made by the applicant.

    Respectfully recommended, FDL

  • March 14, 2013 at 2:19 pm
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    The law of unintended consequences, a simple law which most liberals seem to be completley blind to time and time again!

    • March 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm
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      • March 14, 2013 at 4:07 pm
        Agent says:
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        Still playing that class warfare card, huh DaveNot? The reason for the deficit is the entitlement crowd that you sympathize with. Your Progressive Liberal heroes in Congress took the Social Security Trust and moved it to the General Fund back in the 60′s to pay for the Great Society War on Poverty. We have more poor people in this country now than back then and we have a system approaching bankruptcy. Your theory is complete baloney. You must be part of the OWS crowd if you believe what you spout off about.

      • March 14, 2013 at 4:27 pm
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        National Surplus? Huh? Your boy Obama is the first man to oversee $1+ trillion annual deficits and has yet to oversee any annual deficit of less than $1 trillion.

        • March 14, 2013 at 5:26 pm
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          No, your boy Barry Barack Sotero Hussein Obama created the largest deficit in the history of the United States. More than all the other presidents combined. He is adding 1+ trillion in debt each year. Besides that he has NEVER, in his 5 years in office presented a budget let alone a balanced budget. Now someone is going to say yes, he did in his first year but no, that was not a budget it was an “Outline” and even then his own party would not pass it. I guess community organizers don’t have to deal with budgets. With a budget deficit of 16.7 trillion and growing it is time to take the deadbeat checkbook away.

          • March 15, 2013 at 8:41 am
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            “Sargent Major says:
            your boy Barry Barack Sotero Hussein Obama created the largest deficit in the history of the United States”

            Someone had to put those wars on the books. Take them off like Bush did, deficit solved. Or, better yet, don’t invade Iraq especially under false pretenses. Next.

          • March 15, 2013 at 10:39 am
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            Actually Sargent, I do think the President sent over a budget a couple of years ago which did not garner a single vote in the Senate. Even his buddy Reid did not vote for it. Now, he is making the piddly sequestration cuts as painful as possible by denying access to the White House (unless you have $500,000) while Lurch Kerry is doling out $250 Million to the Muslim Brotherhood the TSA gets new uniforms to the tune of $50Million. What is wrong with this picture?

            On a brighter note, your former mayor of Detroit, the now infamous Kwame Kilpatrick (D) was convicted of 24 counts of corruption, money laundering etc, etc. I am sure this was a racist prosecution, right? They probably could have added another 100 counts just as easy.

          • March 15, 2013 at 2:04 pm
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            Planet:

            I’ve had this debate before, the 16 UN sanctions were put in place by Clinton and were quoted by Bush for the reason for going to war.

            WMD’s was not the primary. Morever, the primary was that Bush said they were harboring Bin Laden. Bin Laden was in Iraq when we went in there, CIA released intelligence proved it. And remind me where Bin Laden was found?

            It was not a war on false pretenses. You liberals are trying to relabel why we went to war.

            Wait! It was the oil! Wait! It was the WMD’s, and ONLY the WMD’s! No. It was going after the instigators of 9/11. We asked Saddam to let us inspect his country for Bin Laden, and he said no. Saddam was in fact hiding Bin Laden, as Bush said he was. Therefore, the pretenses that each American held onto at the time, that we were going after the instigators of 9/11, hiding in Iraq, was not a false pretense.

            Also, the war spending is part of the DOD. It increased the DOD spending delta from the norm by a total of about 1.25 trillion over Bush’s Tenure. And look Planet! A government source!

            http://www.cbo.gov/latest/National-Security/Iraq-and-Afghanistan

            You cannot count the interest on the wars, unless you want to count Obama’s interest on the constant over 1 trillion dollar year spending, 10 years from now. That’s methodlogy my friend, and it’s the correct methodology. That total of the war is therefore directly comparable to Obama’s spending.

            The wars are not the reason behind the deficit. That comes out to a single year of Obama’s spending.

            Please stop being a misinformed idiot.

          • March 15, 2013 at 2:09 pm
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            Planet:

            I should also note that if you really are so stupid to believe the war was under false pretenses, then your guy you think should have won in 2004 (Kerry) was either part of those false pretenses, or too stupid to lead. Start learning how to think.

            Also, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore voted to go to that war. Look up the videos, you idiot. Where Gore even back in HW’s presidency (thus information that was NOT Bush’s) said we had “every” not some, “every” piece of information that told us we needed to take action in Iraq.

            Are you really this stupid? Was he manipulated by Bush Jr back then too? If so, he doesn’t deserve to be in politics, since so clearly you spotted that misleading and he didn’t.

            Planet, wake up. Democrats voted for that war. Bush’s approval rating went to almost 90%. People didn’t care about the WMD’s. They cared about 9/11. Bush was up front that we were taking out Saddam for refusing us the ability to go after Bin Laden.

          • March 15, 2013 at 4:36 pm
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            Planet, We have had those discussions before and your hard head still didn’t get it since you are absent of some IQ power. The reason for the wars were because we were attacked by that little incident known as 9/11. I know that you and your agreeing minions think Bush should have kneeled in front of Bin Laden and apologized like your leader has done and not taken action to avenge 3,000+ American lives, but he chose to go after the evil doers. I certainly would have lost respect for him had he not done so. Were mistakes made after the military action was done? Sure, every government makes mistakes and plenty were made. They continue to be made in Afghanistan under your leader and he has been pouring money down the rat hole there. There is enough blame to go around. This is only a small part of our deficit problem. Your precious social programs are eating this country alive. The standard of living is going down, unemployment is rampant, 50 million+ on food stamps and we have to look forward to completing a 15 page app to get Obamacare which will be much higher than what we have now.

          • March 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm
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            Um, Agent, President Obama and his team got Bin Laden, he didn’t bow down to him. And, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq had oil and Junior needed to finish Daddy’s business, that’s all. And, it would behoove you to truly determine the amount of earned benefits vs. military spending as it relates to the deficit. Or maybe, “you can’t handle the truth!” – Another Seinfeld reference, these are becoming too easy.

            Happy St. Patrick’s Day everyone.

          • March 15, 2013 at 6:18 pm
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            Obama did not get Bin Laden. The information was obtained from a waterboarded detainee before Obama was in office. We don’t know the whole story, but we do know he was waterboarded in 2007 for certain.

            Obama planned on closing Gitmo on day one. Tortured detainees lead to the capture of Bin Laden.

            http://www.today.com/id/42880435/ns/today-today_news/t/cia-chief-waterboarding-aided-bin-laden-raid/

            Straight from the mouth of the man behind it. Again, please stop spreading stupidity based with no facts whatsoever.

            The source in this case is the Chief of CIA. If he says it worked, it worked. He’s the go to man at the CIA.

            Obama ran a campaign based on closing gitmo and ending Bush’s interrogation techniques.

          • March 15, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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            Planet:

            I already posted a CBO link on regarding the Iraq war spending. Those are the numbers. When numbers don’t line up with what you agree with, go source quote huffington post and CNN eh? No. We go with CBO thank you very much. Those are the only acceptable numbers.

            You make bold claims about military spending in ways that don’t matter. Our military did not hire more military to do the war seperate from the DOD budget and there was no draft. The DOD budget swelled, but not beyond reasonable amounts, as is clear based on the fact that this swelling has continued in Obama’s presidency.

            The DOD budget pays for Iraq and Afghanistan. It is you would behooved to look into how budgets work regarding war spending.

            Also: We went to war to go after those responsible for 9/11. Saddam was harboring Al Queida, and did help Bin Laden flee. This is not an opinion. Again: Where was Bin Laden found? In, or outside of the “axis of evil” that Obama said “didn’t exist”?

            How could he have pursued an axis of evil to get Bin Laden that he didn’t believe Captain? Get a clue.

          • March 18, 2013 at 3:17 pm
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            Bob, Once again you handed Planet his head on the issues. It really doesn’t sink into his thick head since he continues to believe MSNBC, Huffington Post, Media Matters on the talking points. That is called revisionist history. He must be young since he has a new baby and doesn’t really know what went on back then. We lived through it and saw first hand what went on. I am old enough to know what LBJ did to the Social Security Trust Fund when he stole it and put it in the General Fund. To add insult to injury, Clinton/Gore started taxing Social Security Benefits. Even that is not enough. Obamacare transfers $700Billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare. Now, they want the brain dead to fill out a 15 page app with 21 steps to apply for coverage so we need navigators to help all these poor people.

          • March 18, 2013 at 10:32 pm
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            Planet:

            Since you won’t look it up:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64

            Watch just after 3 minutes where Al Gore says that Bush HW was foolish for “believing a peaceful” relationship with such a “monsterous” person as Saddam was “possible”.

            Planet, Saddam was a threat for way too long. Al Gore and the dems wanted him gone, they just didn’t want the bad publicity. This is who you deem worthy to lead? These are the people misleading you. Listen to the freaking whole video. He wasn’t just saying minor comments, he was lamblasting the very existence of Saddam as an evil dictator.

            You really need to grow up and watch the videos. Or were you not alive when Al Gore said this?

            I’ll continue to make you look like an idiot Planet, until you either start showing your sources, or you just shut up. Because we don’t need your influence on this “planet” planet.

          • March 18, 2013 at 10:58 pm
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            Clinton on WMD programs in Iraq.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs&NR=1&feature=endscreen

            Man that Bush W guy just made up so many false reasons to go to war with Iraq Planet.

          • March 18, 2013 at 11:02 pm
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            Planet:

            And just a semi cool one showing Bush was way more intellectual than your average president. Neither Obama nor Romney made comments about a specific law such as the end of this video.

            Bush made mincemeat of it. He also aluded to state freedoms. That if we make a national law it’s certainly not going to apply force to Texas. Massachussetes has a system that is different. It is important that state freedoms “supercede” national regulations. You really need to grow up.

            These are good things to try out and let the states decide on what is best for them. You lamblast texas for liking what they have. They don’t want your God damn bill in Texas. But you want to force it on them.

            Pass a state law, and stop being a tyrant.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2PajQltLrg

          • March 18, 2013 at 11:05 pm
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            Planet:

            Democrats on WMD’s.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

          • March 19, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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            Planet and whoever the conservative is who is cooking my “like” numbers:

            I appreciate the boost in likes but I know this many people can’t be liking my comments.

            I also know this many people can’t be liking or disliking Planet’s. I don’t hit the dislike on his comments. For one I think his comments should have the freedom to show.

            For two, well, he won’t look like an idiot if his stupid comments are glossed over.

            Let’s not cook my numbers and let’s not downgrade his.

          • March 19, 2013 at 5:33 pm
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            Planet:

            Side comment, to finish “daddy’s” business?

            Are you insane? Did you even watch my clip with Al Gore? If by finish daddy’s business you mean take out Saddam, that was NOT Daddy’s business. It is something Clinton ran on, keeping Saddam in check. It’s something Al Gore insulted Bush HW for. It was everyone’s business. Al Gore and Clinton must have been finishing Bush HW’s business when he bombed Iraq then right?

            Making comments like that about Bush ARE bigoted. Piece of @%#@%. It’s why I insult you. You’re a jock cheering on your team, ignoring your own’s actions. Stop being a little boy in a hockey rink cheering on your “guy” and start comparing the big picture.

      • March 14, 2013 at 7:17 pm
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        To Dave’s Not Here:

        How could “the whole national surplus” have been doled out to the rich when I distinctly remember the President referring to the complete reversal of that tax cut as “a modest increase” for those making more than $250,000 a year during the 2012 campaign. Surely an amount that when reversed was “a modest increase” could not have impacted the national surplus!

        • March 15, 2013 at 5:57 pm
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          As usual Planet, your warped views of history fail you. We have not received a drop of Iraqi oil as a result of going after Sadam. I wish we had gotten paid back with it. They owe this country a lot for the blood and treasure expended. To refresh your memory one more time, we went to Afghanistan first and kicked butt to get the Taliban out and tried to get Bin Laden, but he was too well protected and elusive. We went for Sadam because every intelligence service in the free world said he had WMD’s and would use them. Unfortunately, we gave him too much time messing around in the UN to get 17 declarations and by then he was able to squirrel them away to Syria who now has them and is threatening to use them on us if we come in there. Go play with your baby and have a good St Pat’s day. I am through with you for this week.

          • March 20, 2013 at 4:23 pm
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            The evidence is in now that Assad has used chemical weapons on his own people to try to put down the civil war that is raging. Is this a game changer for the international community? Probably not since they just wring their hands and complain. What is the death count now? Soon, it will be over 100,000 killed in this rogue country. The Middle East is literally on fire. Where is the leadership anywhere?

          • March 22, 2013 at 6:02 pm
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            So Planet, what do you think about our President going over to the Middle East and pledging money to help their struggling economies all the while denying school children access to the White House due to Sequester? Does he have a private stash to give money to the Muslin Brotherhood while airport terminals in this country are being shut down? Laying off food inspectors from the USDA is also on the list. When does this President start thinking about this country instead of his Muslim bretheren in other countries? They hate our guts, but won’t turn down the money or military equipment we are sending them.

        • March 20, 2013 at 5:59 pm
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          Well, my accountant came to see me today with my return. It is not a pretty site even though I am not quite a 1%er. I am tired of supporting all the deadbeats who are on the public dole. If we had politicians who watch over the tax money and spend it wisely, it might be different and I am happy to pay my taxes, but to see what they are doing with it and how much more they spend than they take in with all the entitlement schemes, it turns my stomach.

    • March 14, 2013 at 3:12 pm
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      Leave it to our Progressive friends in DC to pass a 2,700 page monstrocity with all the unintended consequences that legal scholars cannot understand and have a 15 page app that no one can fill out, especially the brain dead Obama voters.

      • March 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm
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        Agent, don’t forget they passed it in the middle of the night without anytime to read it and Pelosi stands up and in her “I’m an idiot” mode said “Well, you have to pass it so you can find out what was in it”. Well what we have seen is a lot of pork attached including an amendment which prohibits anyone from gathring information on gun owners, put in there by Dirty Harry Reid.

        • March 15, 2013 at 10:42 am
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          Sargent, why are doctors now asking if you have guns in the house when you go in for a check up?

  • March 14, 2013 at 2:37 pm
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    What a cluster f#@* this is going to be. Instead of an agent that knows whe he/she is doing and talking about, Navigators???? Some pin head sitting in India that can barely speak english is going to help american people.

    • March 14, 2013 at 2:43 pm
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      FFA, I predict this story to set a new record for posts. I have tried to talk to some of those pinheads in India before and out of frustration asked to be transferred to someone in the US. Most people will not have the option for this idiocy.

      • March 18, 2013 at 4:49 pm
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        So FFA, a story came out today that the government is closing a number of regional airport control towers due to Sequestration. I guess they want to close travel down for several million travelers. They want us to feel the pain for the miniscule 2% budget cuts. What an outlaw government we have now. There are no real cuts in the budget. All we did was slow the rate of increase in government spending. These people need to resign for the good of the country.

        • March 19, 2013 at 11:41 am
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          In addition to the airport fiasco, we are laying off USDA food inspectors in the name of Sequestration and spending money advertising Food Stamps applications in Mexico. So these Mexicans need to know how to apply for food stamps and other benefits after they swim the river. Neat, huh?

        • March 19, 2013 at 12:51 pm
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          Agent:

          Have you seen all the mess ups by Boehner lately?

          That guy seems more concerned with the republican image than he is with the issues. He did horribly on sequestration.

          The worst part is the liberals are seeing that as us saying that Boehner should be like Obama. Ugh. Not at all. We want conservatives to be conservatives. Not liberal, on fiscal issues.

          Did you enjoy my diatribe of information for Planet? :)

          Not one source from Fox News, the place I supposedly get all my info from according to Liberals. I know better than to source quote them in Washington State. I guess in a way Washington’s liberal leaning produced quite a man in me, in an indirect way.

          • March 19, 2013 at 5:15 pm
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            Hi Planet! For someone who says he doesn’t read my comments, you certainly are doing a nice run through disliking them all (multiple times I might add).

            :)

            Why don’t you disprove the comments rather than cower?

          • March 20, 2013 at 4:34 pm
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            Bob, I did enjoy your posts to poor Planet. He doesn’t seem to have any moxie left to try to shoot you down. Ever since he lost his joined at the hip mate Libby, he has lost his enthusiasm for his cause. I wonder what happened to her. My guess is she lost her job again and doesn’t have access to the site anymore. I, too am disappointed in Boehner. He is part of the old guard RINO’s who have presided over the decline of the party. He should be replaced by Louie Gohmert of Texas who is a true conservative and will not buckle every time he turns around. I don’t watch that much Fox anymore except for some of the hot women and occasionally Hannity. O’Reilly just trots out liberals most of the time that I can’t stand. I do like him practically kicking Alan Colmbs off the air when Colmbs was too goofy to make a salient point. I would prefer he just have Monica Crowley on and have a rational discussion of the issues.

          • March 26, 2013 at 5:38 pm
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            Bob, I think the time is coming soon for the new wave of Conservatives to take control of the Republican Party. We cannot afford the likes of Boehner, McCain, Graham who go along to get along. They think too much like Demoncrats. We don’t need any more reach across the aisle guys who compromise Conservative beliefs every time. When have you ever seen a Progressive Democrat adopt a Conservative position on any issue. They take the position of “our way or the highway”. I look at Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and they are that new wave. We need a bunch more just like them.

    • March 14, 2013 at 3:29 pm
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      • March 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm
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        DS- OK, so it will some of the same Obama supporters who ran many of the election sites and voted two or three times and committed fraud. How about in Cincinnati where one women voted 9 times. Check out below. The video says she voted 6 times but I found out she was arrested and voted 9 times under different names. Typical Obama supporter. If you have no integrity you might as well cheat.

        http://www.abc22now.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/wkef_vid_11477.shtml

        • March 15, 2013 at 1:17 pm
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          Sargent, there is no doubt in my mind that Ohio was stolen. Between the unions, Acorn crowd and other deadbeats, they made sure their votes were counted over and over. In some precincts, Romney didn’t get a single vote. That has never happened in American history. Florida had much the same issues. Allen West had a lead until midnight in his bid and then some mystery votes showed up and he lost by a couple of thousand. The country should have learned from the Franken win in Minnesota a few years ago when car trunks of votes showed up at the last minute to be counted. We now do not have a free electorate in this country. The left liked to scream that Republicans were trying to keep them from voting and in fact, they vote multiple times and numerous cases have come to light about this travesty. I wonder if they will prosecute the woman who voted 9 times. She will probably get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.

    • March 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm
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      I agree. You have a bunch of libtards who coddle the unions and they will probably send the service to Bangladesh. I think they the should put it in Mexico and give every illegal who moves back to Mexico a job in the Obama call center. It would probably be cheaper than keeping them on welfare, medicaid etc

      • April 24, 2013 at 11:17 am
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        Sargent, Perhaps you saw the article the other day about the Roofers Union calling for the outright repeal of Obamacare. They were all for it before they were against it since they are seeing how the cost is escalating for their members.

    • March 14, 2013 at 7:22 pm
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      FFA:

      I believe those navigators will be predominantly made up of out of work liberal arts majors located in the USA. They will be able to get credit against their student loans for doing this work. Only potential problem is none of them have decent math skills.

      • March 15, 2013 at 1:20 pm
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        Do you mean those OWS failure to launch deadbeats who live with Mom and try to hack websites of businesses to cause trouble?

      • March 18, 2013 at 4:37 pm
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        Obama will forgive their student loans if they agree to be a “navigator”. The question is who will be the navigator for the navigators on a 15 page app with 21 steps to complete? This is not like shopping on Amazon.com where you can just click on something you want to buy. What could possibly go wrong?

  • March 14, 2013 at 5:10 pm
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    • March 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm
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      Don’t worry about the uninsured. The illegals will have interpreters, the deadbeats will have it filled out for them at the welfare office, the youthful who did not want it anyway will blow it off and pay the penalty as it will be cheaper than buying and if they get sick they will walk into the emergency room. And you will help pay the bill. As on yesterday the CBO said that healthcare was originally (according to Obama) goig to cost around 900 million. Their latest estimate 3.6 Trillion, that is Trillion and going up. So much for better healthcare at a lower cost. What a joke.

      • March 15, 2013 at 12:32 pm
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        What about the newly unemployed who lose their health insurance on their last day of work and are not eligible for COBRA?

        • March 15, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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          All they have to do is apply and fill out the 15 page app and they are good to go. Can’t afford it? No problem. Sebelius will give some of that free Obamacare with subsidies.

        • March 17, 2013 at 12:05 pm
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          I agree that if you are newly unemployed you should be eligible for healthcare assistance the same as you should be eligible for unemployment compensation. Why, because your healthcare expense can eat up your unemployment comp. That said it should run the same time as unemployment and should not go on forever. It should be long enough to obtain another job, retrain or retire etc. People who have had steady employment and want to go back to work should be given help if they find themselves temporarily unemployed.

  • March 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm
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    DS, apparently you have not seen this from the LA Times Mar 7 2013 business section front page article. It reads: “California officials face mounting criticism from union leaders over plans to let retail giant Wal-Mart Stores Inc enroll shoppers in President Obama’s healthcare expansion.

    “The state wants employees at Wal-Mart and other retailers to help consumers learn about their options and assist them in buying federally subsidized private insurance”.

    So hear my sarcastic tone here: Great, let’s go to Wal-Mart and get critical insurance advice from people whose only credential is having attended a canned seminar. Misrepresentation? Hey, don’t worry about it, it’s only your life & death healthcare matters!!!

    This is a recipe for misinformation and disaster, since the Wal-Mart assistors will surely have Big Government shielding them such liabilities.

    Yet Obamacare is making every effort to remove professional health insurance agents & brokers from the equation. To transact health insurance, agents & brokers must qualify for and maintain state licenses and perform mandatory continuing ed. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg in running a professional insurance agency so clients receive the best combination of advice, accountability and benefits for their dollar.

    Actions speak much louder than words. By so discounting the quality of enrollment advice, this is just dose number one of the poison prescription known as Obamacare. The worst is yet to come.

    • March 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm
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      Walmart, where your healthcare dreams come true!

  • March 14, 2013 at 6:01 pm
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    Just think, I can go to Walmart get a jumbo hot dog, chips, a giant pretzel and a huge frozen coke, grab a candy bar or two for dessert, then go over and sit down with the greeter who now doubles as a healthcare advisor or signer upper. Surely, I will get all the credits for answering the do you eat healthy and regularly exercise questions. I can’t wait!

    • March 15, 2013 at 10:49 am
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      I can see AARP volunteering to help people sign up. All it would cost is buying a membership and that would help them recoup their dwindling membership. I get an average of two mailings a month with pre-made membership cards asking me to join up. They are promptly discarded in the garbage.

      • March 15, 2013 at 12:34 pm
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        Agent, I get the same mailings. I have been getting them for years and I was not even eligible to join AARP. They thought my dad lived here and he was 300 miles away. Every time I get one I tear off the return and send it blank, in the pre paid envelope to AARP. I figure that has to drive up their cost a little and if everyone did that maybe they would stop. I do the same thing to credit card offers which are also a fraud.
        Remember, that organization (AARP) has changed. I remember when my grandparents became AAP members vs today. They went from being an organization that helps older people to making money off the back of older people making it look like they are this great benevolent association. That is why they are such big supporters of Obozocare. They will make millions more in revenue if healthcare options are limited and they can get the older uninformed to sign up with AARP.

        • March 18, 2013 at 11:02 am
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          I was on spring break when all this fun was occurring, but Sargent Major I used to work for a man that had our mail clerk wrap bricks and attach postage paid return mail envelopes. Maybe we could all start returning AARP’s prepaid evenlopes back with a brick attached.

          • March 18, 2013 at 11:59 am
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            LOL!! Do you think a conrete block would work!!

        • March 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
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          I started getting the mailings when I turned 50 wanting me to join up. They have been getting more aggressive recently since so many of their members have defected for other organizations. It didn’t help their cause to televise Obama at their organization touting the bill. I saw where AARP asked for a waiver from Obamacare for their own organization due to affordability issues. Oops! What is wrong with that picture?

  • March 15, 2013 at 3:20 pm
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    I’ve overheard life/health guys telling employers that lower paid employees can opt for Medicaid to help reduce the cost of providing coverage for the more highly paid employees. Of course, they tried to make those comments sound as if decisions were being made in the best interest of all employees, but I’m not buying that rationale.



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