2001 Military Budget = 287 Billion
2013 Military Budget = 530 Billion
2008 Food Stamp = 37B
2012 Food Stamp = 78B (With double the number of participants from 2008 due to the economy)
Cuts will take additonal money out of the economy and continue the cycle. This focus may a have feel good to many but most likely will have minimal impact overall or the exact opposite of the impact wanted.
Suggest we go to the big dollar item for the cuts instead of nickeling and diming the poor, elderly and disabled.
Single Item Bill- Not a law that I know of however, it was a “promise” made by the President when he was campaigning. He said that he would not sign a bill that had attachments or pork tied to it. Of course he lied about that just as he lied 27 times (so far) about ACA
If they are so concerned about defaulting to “an underlying 1938 permanent law,” what about the underlying 1791 permanent law that says Congress has no power to do any of this? It’s called the 10th Amendment.
They state the biggest loser is the consumer without a farm bill. Well lets see I just bought a half a gallon of milk for 88 cents, 8 oz of cheese for $1.79, yoplait yogurt for 50 cents and sour cream 16oz for $1.00. I know that’s just the dairy portion, but that part isn’t affecting me.
Half gallon of milk for 88 cents? I’m jealous. It’s about $2 here for the half gallon and $3 something for a gallon. Which, in the grand scheme of things, is not unreasonable. I’m just jealous because we buy a lot of dairy products.
On the news here in Michigan they said that without the farm subsidy that a gallon of milk could cost as much as $8 dollars a gallon. Today, I can buy it from $1.39 to $1.89 a gallon. If the price goes up that much I will not be buying milk, even if it doubles, I am not a buyer.
The funny thing about “they” is, “they” are the same ones that said gas would be up to $5.00 a gallon a few years ago. And that was for the national average, not California’s only. LOL So I’ll go back to the old saying, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Also lets say it all goes up that much, shouldn’t the people that buy it, pay for it, vs the people like Sarg who don’t really buy it? Why should the government surplus for the ones that use it. If I want milk, I should pay $8 a gallon. Heck it sure would help me with the red meat if that goes up. I’ll start buying and eating more vegetables which are better for me anyway.
Baxtor- Deer Season in Michigan just started. If red meat goes up that much I kill enough to last from one season to the next.
I love cold milk and cookies out of the oven ( I am a cookie addict) but not at $8 a gallon or even 4 a gallon. Of course if that happens red meat will be cheap because all those dairy farmers will be sending their cows to the slaughter house.
The dairy part is very important. The children need the milk and the biggest marjority of them are on food stamps. Not depending upon subsidities I still love dairy and would miss not being able to afford it at the higher prices. Why not give the subsidities to the Farmers, they are the ones who feed us and they earn the least of most people in the food chain. Hail the farmer people. Grown your own veggies, subsidize the dairy, and let the cattle (meat)have access to better prices. Its the middleman that makes the profit…not the farmers. Subsidize them.!
Ms. O, do you know any dairy farmers? I grew up on a dairy farm, and we now rent our land to my cousins, who have a dairy operation down the road. They are amazingly productive compared to my parents, who had to get up at 4 a.m. 365 days a year to milk cows. Their robotic milking machines run 24 hours a day, and they can monitor their operations on their iPhones from practically anywhere. They don’t want anybody’s sympathy, and they certainly don’t need or want subsidies, which amount to resources stolen from other productive people so politicians can get votes. They simply want to be left alone to compete and serve consumers in a free market. As in any other business, those who can’t serve consumers as well deserve to go bankrupt. And as far as the “middleman” is concerned, you need to educate yourself about how markets work. The economically-challenged love to hate them, but they are important players in the voluntary division of labor that has given us the standard of living we enjoy. As with any whipping boy, don’t believe anything that lying, thieving politicians or their stenographers in the mainstream press say about them.
November 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm
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@ Roland, Hats off to your family! Do they produce organic milk?
November 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm
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Just remember folks… the people who are voting to cut food stamps ($4.71) per day are current pocketing $476.71 per day 365 days per year from our tax coffers even though they are working 18 days per month! The well heeled and well paid never go hungry.
2001 Military Budget = 287 Billion
2013 Military Budget = 530 Billion
2008 Food Stamp = 37B
2012 Food Stamp = 78B (With double the number of participants from 2008 due to the economy)
Cuts will take additonal money out of the economy and continue the cycle. This focus may a have feel good to many but most likely will have minimal impact overall or the exact opposite of the impact wanted.
Suggest we go to the big dollar item for the cuts instead of nickeling and diming the poor, elderly and disabled.
Thought there was a law passed years ago that required only one item per bill so people could understand it. Guess that went by the wayside.
Not at the Federal level.
Oklahoma is a state that has this single item bill law. I’m sure there are others.
Single Item Bill- Not a law that I know of however, it was a “promise” made by the President when he was campaigning. He said that he would not sign a bill that had attachments or pork tied to it. Of course he lied about that just as he lied 27 times (so far) about ACA
If they are so concerned about defaulting to “an underlying 1938 permanent law,” what about the underlying 1791 permanent law that says Congress has no power to do any of this? It’s called the 10th Amendment.
I guess at least 2 people here “dislike” the Bill of Rights.
They state the biggest loser is the consumer without a farm bill. Well lets see I just bought a half a gallon of milk for 88 cents, 8 oz of cheese for $1.79, yoplait yogurt for 50 cents and sour cream 16oz for $1.00. I know that’s just the dairy portion, but that part isn’t affecting me.
Half gallon of milk for 88 cents? I’m jealous. It’s about $2 here for the half gallon and $3 something for a gallon. Which, in the grand scheme of things, is not unreasonable. I’m just jealous because we buy a lot of dairy products.
JW, it was on sale. :-)
On the news here in Michigan they said that without the farm subsidy that a gallon of milk could cost as much as $8 dollars a gallon. Today, I can buy it from $1.39 to $1.89 a gallon. If the price goes up that much I will not be buying milk, even if it doubles, I am not a buyer.
The funny thing about “they” is, “they” are the same ones that said gas would be up to $5.00 a gallon a few years ago. And that was for the national average, not California’s only. LOL So I’ll go back to the old saying, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Also lets say it all goes up that much, shouldn’t the people that buy it, pay for it, vs the people like Sarg who don’t really buy it? Why should the government surplus for the ones that use it. If I want milk, I should pay $8 a gallon. Heck it sure would help me with the red meat if that goes up. I’ll start buying and eating more vegetables which are better for me anyway.
Baxtor- Deer Season in Michigan just started. If red meat goes up that much I kill enough to last from one season to the next.
I love cold milk and cookies out of the oven ( I am a cookie addict) but not at $8 a gallon or even 4 a gallon. Of course if that happens red meat will be cheap because all those dairy farmers will be sending their cows to the slaughter house.
The dairy part is very important. The children need the milk and the biggest marjority of them are on food stamps. Not depending upon subsidities I still love dairy and would miss not being able to afford it at the higher prices. Why not give the subsidities to the Farmers, they are the ones who feed us and they earn the least of most people in the food chain. Hail the farmer people. Grown your own veggies, subsidize the dairy, and let the cattle (meat)have access to better prices. Its the middleman that makes the profit…not the farmers. Subsidize them.!
Ms. O, do you know any dairy farmers? I grew up on a dairy farm, and we now rent our land to my cousins, who have a dairy operation down the road. They are amazingly productive compared to my parents, who had to get up at 4 a.m. 365 days a year to milk cows. Their robotic milking machines run 24 hours a day, and they can monitor their operations on their iPhones from practically anywhere. They don’t want anybody’s sympathy, and they certainly don’t need or want subsidies, which amount to resources stolen from other productive people so politicians can get votes. They simply want to be left alone to compete and serve consumers in a free market. As in any other business, those who can’t serve consumers as well deserve to go bankrupt. And as far as the “middleman” is concerned, you need to educate yourself about how markets work. The economically-challenged love to hate them, but they are important players in the voluntary division of labor that has given us the standard of living we enjoy. As with any whipping boy, don’t believe anything that lying, thieving politicians or their stenographers in the mainstream press say about them.
@ Roland, Hats off to your family! Do they produce organic milk?
Just remember folks… the people who are voting to cut food stamps ($4.71) per day are current pocketing $476.71 per day 365 days per year from our tax coffers even though they are working 18 days per month! The well heeled and well paid never go hungry.