Obama Exempts Canceled Policyholders from Individual Mandate

By Margaret Talev and Alex Wayne | December 20, 2013
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  • December 20, 2013 at 9:14 am
    ExciteBiker says:
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    It would cause significant instability if I have to pay my taxes this year, can Obama wave that magic wand in this direction?

  • December 20, 2013 at 11:06 am
    Alwasy Aamzed says:
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    Exactly. The man is grasping at straws and now even trying to pitch his plans to moms in gorcery stores. Pathetic really.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/20/administration-announces-new-obamacare-exemption/

    • December 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm
      Agent says:
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      Always, even more pathetic is the ad with the Millenial sitting in his jammies drinking hot chocolate thinking about applying for Obamacare. That was a classic failure to launch guy pondering his next benefit he can get.

  • December 20, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    Water Bug says:
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    Hey, since we no longer use Congress to create, repeal, and modify laws can’t we dismiss the Senate and the House and save a ton of money ? Barry Obama is doing the job of all of our legislators.

    • December 20, 2013 at 1:43 pm
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      Exactly. When did Barry become dictator? Where he can change laws passed by both houses of congress at his each and every whim. Any change to this abortion of the law should have to be passed by congress before it can be enacted. Wasn’t Barry a constitutional expert? Apparently not. This is exactly why congress doesn’t want to pass “comprehensive immigration reform”. Barry will just enforce the parts of the law he wants and let things like border security get by with the wave of his dictatorial magic wand. This guy should be impeached!

      • December 20, 2013 at 2:28 pm
        Agent says:
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        Right Dave, It seems the Executive Branch is 2/3rds of the Government, the Legislative + Judicial is one third. Whatever happened to the Separate but Equal doctrine? This Emperor in Chief changes the goal posts whenever he wants and Congress has still not brought Impeachment Proceedings. How bad does it have to get before action is taken? Back in Empire of Rome, Caeser and Nero didn’t fare too well when they tried to be dictators. We are more civilized now, but someone needs to stand up for the American People and get this guy removed from office before more damage is inflicted.

        • December 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm
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          There IS something the People can do when all three branches of government take power away from the People******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************It’s Amendment V of the Constitution.***********************************************************************************************************
          The founding fathers had foresight in knowing that the three branches of government could eventually hold too much power over the people. It could become oppressive and never agree to propose amendments to its own tyranny.*********************************************************************************************************************************
          Amendment V allows the states to return power back to the People.
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          Mark Levin put out a great book: “Liberty Amendments”.
          It defines the intent of Amendment V along with the means to execute a states convention.*************************************************************************************************************
          IT STARTS WITH YOU!************************************************************************************************************************
          Feel free to call your local represetatives and see if they are coming together with other states for a convention.

          • December 20, 2013 at 4:38 pm
            Agent says:
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            Reader, perhaps more of us should pay attention to the recent polls. One I saw the other day asked if they thought the Federal Government was too big and powerful. 72% thought it was. This country has been asleep too long and the Feds are running wild and this administration is ruling like a Dictatorship. Communism’s main tenet is the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (Us). They own or control all the means of production and services in a country. Does that sound familiar given what has been going on? Something very bad is going to happen soon and I give it about 6 months to reach a head. The man has to be Impeached. The country can’t stand this any longer.

    • December 20, 2013 at 1:50 pm
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      Sadly, I wonder if the excutive branch has somehow found a way around the legislative branch. I’m a little concerned about what’s going to happen next.

      • December 20, 2013 at 2:07 pm
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        Somehow??? Its oFNbama. He can do what ever he wants!

      • December 20, 2013 at 3:09 pm
        Agent says:
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        KYjw, Obama is ruling by Executive Orders now and this change is the latest example. Pass a law, change a law by order of the President. How many does this make now on Obamacare, three or four mandate changes? He is keeping the industry hopping and they don’t know what to do next. Try getting Blue Cross on the line now. They hired 500 new people to answer the phone and you still can’t get through. This administration doesn’t know s*&# from Shinola and the people will suffer for it. Maximum amount of pain is the plan.

      • January 20, 2014 at 11:27 am
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        KYjw, He already has. He just states that he will use the pen to govern from now on. Who needs the Legislative Branch and the Judicial Branch if you are the almighty President? Sounds a lot like Chavez in Venezuela, doesn’t it?

    • December 20, 2013 at 4:42 pm
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      Trust me Water Bug, you don’t want the Executive Branch calling all the shots with no oversight, no checks and balances or you may as well just crown this guy for life. The better solution is the Separate but Equal Doctrine promised in the Constitution. If the President oversteps his authority, Impeach and remove him from office.

      • December 20, 2013 at 4:55 pm
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        Isn’t that what is going on??? Supreme Court had its shot at this and rolled over for him.

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:21 pm
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    What a sick joke this is on the American people. This guy changes his mind more then he changes his undies. I am sure its Bushes fault some how.

    • December 20, 2013 at 1:44 pm
      Dave says:
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      Good analogy FFA. And I’m sure Barry and Carney will look for a way to blame this on Bush. Everything into perpetuity is Bush’s fault.

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:41 pm
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    A disgrace. And this just shows how poorly thought out the law was in the first place. I would hate to be an insurance company wondering what the next change this knucklehead will make. BTW…I’m sure the “fewer than 500,000″ is perfectly accurate just like all of their assumptions and estimations have been with this debacle.

    • December 20, 2013 at 2:33 pm
      Agent says:
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      Mikey, the Cloward & Pivin strategy to ruin this country has been going on for 5 years now. Obama is a student of the theory along with his minions/Czars implementing policy. All of the Departments & Agencies carry out policy from the top and the American People and business suffer the consequences. I think a lot of people have awakened now and know how bad this President is given his last approval rating of 43%. When January rolls around and 6 million have no insurance, perhaps that will be the last nail in the coffin for this administration. Get out the pitchforks, torches, tar & feathers because it won’t be long now.

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    KY jw says:
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    How in the blazes will this work? Tax season for tax year 2014 is going to be a mess. I am stunned.

    • December 20, 2013 at 2:06 pm
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      jw, my guess is a lot of people wont be getting refunds.

      • December 23, 2013 at 9:46 am
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        Plus they’ll need a CPA just to complete the 1040-EZ. What a crock.

        • December 26, 2013 at 10:06 am
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          How about the new 2% tax that will be imposed on all health policies, the 3.5% Medical Device tax, the tax imposed on all health carriers (4%)? All of this to be passed on to the consumers. Affordable Care Act??????

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:54 pm
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    Hello everyone, Obama has just appointed me the new Property and Casualty Czar. If you personally or commercially cannot afford your P&C insurance policies, I am waiving the obligation that you have to pony up your premiums. Just ignore those cancellation and collection letters. You are not responsible as you are all victims of those bad P&C insurance companies. Have a Good Holiday Season.

    • December 23, 2013 at 10:57 am
      Agent says:
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      Hey Czar, do we just turn in our reported claims in to you to pay if our policy has been cancelled for non-pay? Is there a Catastrophic Policy available to help out customers who have been cancelled?

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:55 pm
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    Looks like the Kings sweater is unravelling rapidly.

  • December 20, 2013 at 1:56 pm
    Sargeant Major says:
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    HMMMMMM- There has got to be a way to put the blame on G.Bush and refer to a lack of WMDs??

    • December 20, 2013 at 2:05 pm
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      Give it time Sarge. You know Celtica is hanging around. Or maybe the light bulb is turning on. With my Main St, USA tales of women having to change their lady parts docs, could be shocking her to reality of he just don’t care about women. Wondering of she is next…
      Libby has come to her senses over this mess…

      • December 20, 2013 at 3:14 pm
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        Hey FFA, didn’t you know it was the Republicans who had the War on Women? Sandra Fluke said so. We don’t want to include Maternity, Abortion or the pills to women over 50 or to the young Millenial men who said they didn’t need it so we are racists, homophobic and against women in general. I wonder what the real women think that had their policy canceled and can’t find suitable replacement coverage they can actually afford.

        • December 20, 2013 at 3:24 pm
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          The truth is shaking out…

    • December 20, 2013 at 5:35 pm
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  • December 20, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    Sargeant Major says:
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    So, In our staff meeting this morning a case was discussed and how we might be able to help.

    A couple, age 54 & 52, kids grown and one has type 2 diabetes. Current plan has a $1,000 ded per family member and 80/20. Total out of pocket 2,500 per fam member. Cost $545.00 per month. Insurer cancelled their insurance policy. Best from the exchange- $793 per month. Ded per family member $5000.00 and 80/20 thereafter and I am not sure what the maximum out of pocket is. They have finally enrolled but told us that they probably can’t afford it and may need to have the coverage in place until they get by the fine and income tax issue and then cancel it. Then re-enroll just before the next fine and tax year. I am not sure they can even do that but that is what they said and I told the agent not to advise them on anything other than what we can provide and make sure they document the file. In the meantime their family member are going to need to help with the insulin and supplies.
    They volunteered to the agent that they voted for Obama on the promise that their health insurance costs would be better and lower in cost.
    I advised the agent to do the best she could to try to find alternatives that will work for them and to keep me posted.

    • December 20, 2013 at 2:26 pm
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      Sarge, anyway to get the “Problem Child” on medicare? Maybe cut the kid off their income tax and make him independent?
      Normal average everyday American defines Affordable as ” better and lower in cost”.
      Ofnbamas definition “Total out of pocket 2,500 per fam member. Cost $545.00 per month. Insurer cancelled their insurance policy. Best from the exchange- $793 per month. Ded per family member $5000.00 and 80/20 thereafter and I am not sure what the maximum out of pocket is”.

      Good thing they are picking up Maternity. Did the woman have to change lady docs?

      • December 20, 2013 at 2:37 pm
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        FFA, do you have one of those bare bones Catastrophic policies you can sell to people clamoring for coverage? I can’t find one on my Blue Cross site. Is it available? Of course, they haven’t had this ruling for one full day yet, so the geeks will have to load it in.

        • December 20, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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          Agent, The Bronze Plan with the $6000 ded and $12000 max OOP.

          • December 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm
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            FFA, I made an inquiry to my Blue Cross Rep and asked him if BC was going to offer one of those bare bones Catastrophic plans that didn’t meet the mandated coverages that is now supposed to be ok to have per Sebelius. He said it takes 8 months to get filings approved by the State and then the Feds to do these kinds of policies. The site only quotes Obamacare Bronze, Silver and Platinum. What a deal. I kind of doubt any of the other major markets have these bare bones policies either since they were geared up for Obamacare. Bend over America, he is not through yet.

          • December 20, 2013 at 4:17 pm
            FFA says:
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            Well agent, that’s the best you can do given the parameters King oFNbama has laid out for us. that’s all you have to offer because of him – or is this Bushs fault?

          • December 20, 2013 at 4:26 pm
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            I guess the American People have a different definition of catastrophic then does oFNbama.

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          • December 20, 2013 at 5:52 pm
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            Libby, either Ofnbama don’t want us to write it or the carries don’t want us to write it or the carriers don’t want to write it. Otherwise, we would have access to it.

            I thought the Bronze was the cat policy. If things are worse then that policy, it must not be worth the paper its written on.

            Tried helping a friend get her daughter on the CHIP program. Web site, yes your guessed it, down at 01:00 Chi time.

      • December 20, 2013 at 3:09 pm
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        FFA, Not sure. I was going to ask the agent about either Medicare or possibly even Medicaid but not sure they qualify and we need to be careful about how we advise them. They have income but they are not wealthy by any means. Tough case and they seem to be good people.

        • December 20, 2013 at 3:20 pm
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          I suppose if they cut the child off the tax return and make him his own Household, he may qualify for Medicaid with no income and all expense.
          Time to chat with a tax man (as if he could figure this mess out).

      • December 20, 2013 at 3:21 pm
        Sargeant Major says:
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        Yes, I am sure the maternity coverage is extremely important to this couple. I also think that the drug rehab is important.

    • December 20, 2013 at 2:44 pm
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      Hey Sargeant, I appreciate your dilemma. Here is a good example of the mounting problems. A family lost their Individual policy that they liked so they go on the website and purchased (or think they did) one of these plans for several hundred more dollars per month. Then, Sebelius says they could be exempted and allowed to purchase a Catastrophic Plan for less than they were paying. Can it be cancelled and re-written like normal P&C policies or are they stuck? Another question is who will offer these policies since this just happened and we are almost out of time before 1-1?

  • December 20, 2013 at 2:18 pm
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    Why did the insurance have to get into bed with Obama in the first place. What were they offered to play his game? When are they going to say “enough already” and refuse to play his game? Surely if I knew this would never work, they would have known that also. I am so confused. They are being used by this administration and the blame will ultimately be placed on them because we all know that the idiot in the white house will never accept any of the blame of this mess he has created. I hope all of the idiots who voted for him even once realize what a horrible mistake they made and what a horrible mess they have created for the American people.

    • December 23, 2013 at 11:14 am
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      Connie, the explanation I have seen on the companies getting into bed with Obama was that they said they hadn’t been making any money on Individual for several years and they needed more premium dollars rolling in. That is now happening for millions when they see what is offered on the exchanges. They figure people will spend whatever necessary to get coverage. I don’t think Obama counted on the Millenials thumbing their nose at him. What we are seeing are the sick people enrolling which is adverse selection to the max. What will that do to the rates?

  • December 20, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    Sargeant Major says:
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    Agent, I think this couple is stuck. The company they had (largest health insurer in MI)is not rewriting any of the old plans they cancelled. It seems they, all of the sudden can’t rewrite because they no longer “support” those plans. We called them on that.

    • December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm
      Agent says:
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      Yes Sargeant, I got pretty much the same story for Texas. If they dumped all the old plans, they cannot resurrect them and the consumer is SOL. Is this a classic case of dumb with Democraps? They think they can snap their fingers, wave a magic wand and just make it happen when it can’t happen. The consumers ox keeps getting gored over and over. When will the march on Washington commence?

  • December 20, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    Sargeant Major says:
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    But this is something that we are now seeing everyday. People that we insure but not necessarily have for health coverage (A lot of individuals and families), scrambling to find anything affordable.

    • December 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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      Its frustrating see the end result of the biggest lie on the American People. I guarantee if he had his feet on the ground and actually saw what was going on in our offices, he would not give a damn.

      I can only guess that a lot of Democrats are going to lose their jobs in the next election. I think the repubs get control of the senate and its gone 1st quarter, 2015.

      • December 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm
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        FFA, we will need to get two thirds to override a Veto unless we Impeach him first. I vote for Impeachment early in 14, don’t you?

        • December 20, 2013 at 5:03 pm
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          YEP. GET RID OF HIM. By what ever means possible. As quickly as possible.

          Interesting conversation with my 1st grade grand daughter last night. Someone at school told her that OBama wants all the white people to be slaves. I told her I didnt know about that, but I do know he is a liar. She said ‘But he is the president”. I said “Yes, I know. Pretty sad huh?”

          The look of disappointment in her face…

          • December 20, 2013 at 5:57 pm
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            How about them letting him have his last Hawaii vacation and serve him papers when he gets back? The list of Impeachable offenses may be pretty thick by now, almost as thick as the 2,700 page Unaffordable Care Act.

    • December 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm
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      Sargeant & FFA, did you see or hear any of the President’s press conference today prior to him leaving for his multi million dollar vacation in Hawaii? His statement that he is proud that 2 million will be covered by Obamacare by 1-1-14. He is going from total of 364,000 for Oct-Nov to 2 million by 12-31. How many have paid a premium for coverage where it will go in force? Of course, he failed to mention that 6 million have lost coverage and have no where to go. No one is offering the non mandated coverage Catastrophic plans he approved for them to use. Hmm! Seems to me there is a serious credibility gap. Time for the signing guy to come in and run the White House because he makes more sense.

      • December 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm
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        2 million by 1-1-14? LOL!!!!!!!! I think that is lie number 4,389?
        Ha. I would have left out the 6 million cancels as well- LOL, maybe he is counting on at least 1.6 million who got cancelled to re up under Obozcare since they were the most likely to be responsible and would actually pay for it.

    • December 23, 2013 at 5:29 pm
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      Hey Sargeant & FFA. It seems that I get daily emails from Blue Cross regarding this disaster. Today’s wonderful email says that there may be delays in processing applications (do you think?). They are now going to allow for payments to be made as late as 1-10-14 to get a 1-1 effective date. As this continues to unfold, delay after delay, push back after push back. They hired another 500 at Blue Cross just to answer phones about all the problems and people asking what they can do. I guess we can say now that Obama is creating private sector jobs even if it is a crisis generating that.

    • December 31, 2013 at 10:26 am
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      Sargeant, it should be an interesting month in January to see how many people that think they have coverage and don’t because their info was lost, incorrectly input, no premium paid, no ID card and nothing in the system. Companies are way behind, their phone lines stay busy all the time and are being asked to forgive late payments. There are a lot of people who will need to go to the doctor in the month with serious illnesses. What will the doctors do? I suppose they will treat people and hope for eventual re-imbursement. Oops! What if they aren’t in network anymore? Hmm! What a colossal failure!

  • December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm
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    The Cloward & Pivin Strategy is the main driver of this insurance debacle the American public is facing. obama needs to be impeached immediately.

  • December 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm
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    Found this on FB:

    Support For A&E Boycott Four Times Higher Than Obamacare Enrollment – Facebook “likes” for boycott six times higher than “likes” for Obamacare. http://www.infowars.com/support-for-ae-boycott-four-times-higher-than-obamacare-enrollment/

    Don’t know the truth of it all, but sounds about right.

    • December 23, 2013 at 10:48 am
      Agent says:
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      FFA, Duck Dynasty will find a new home, no problem. They only have 8 million regular viewers. A&E will rue the day they pulled Robertson off for expressing his views. Liberals are all about diversity and debate until someone disagrees with them and then they want to destroy who disagreed with them.

      By the way, I couldn’t believe my eyes last night. Philly is good, but they aren’t that good. Da Bears layed down for them last night. I can’t see a Lovie Smith or Ditka coached team doing that. Sargeant’s team tanked badly coming down the stretch and Stafford does not look like a $94 million guaranteed qb. The Cowgirls managed to stay alive, I don’t know how. They will end up 8-8 just like I predicted in September after Philly gets through with them next week. I have never seen so many no names on a pro football team since I have been following the game. 18 different defensive linemen used and none can play. Only the Redskins are more hapless. Shanahan should be out of there after the last game. What a mess he has made.

      • December 23, 2013 at 11:30 am
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        Hey FFA & Sargeant, Cracker Barrel has found out it is not wise to tick off the people. They had taken down Duck Dynasty items from their shelves and made the politically correct statement to please the gay crowd after A&E’s debacle in taking Robertson off the air. Over the weekend, they made a profound apology to the folks, put the items back after the Face Bookers and people went in and said they wouldn’t eat there or shop there anymore. My son in law actually went into one of their restaurants and told the manager face to face. Speaking of faces, they have egg all over their’s. Let the gay crowd boycott them now. It worked so great with Chick Fil A. I think sales have set a record for them this year.

        • December 26, 2013 at 5:50 pm
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          Sargeant, Twitter also blocked their following from posting support of Robertson. I think they got some negative feed back so they apologized for their actions and tried to blame it on technology glitches. These people are amazing. They do something, the people scream, so they retract it.

      • December 23, 2013 at 12:04 pm
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        WGN reported that there are two networks that want the show…

        As far as football yesterday, what a sad display by all North teams. Nobody want to go to the playoffs.

        I heard Lovie was interviewing with the Texans…

        • December 23, 2013 at 12:37 pm
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          You know what FFA, Lovie might just be a good fit for the Texans. He is a native son from the sprawling metropolis of Big Sandy, Tx. I think the population is about 3,000. He proved he could coach and got a raw deal with Chicago. Whatever team emerges from the NFC north will have as much luck as the NFC East in the playoffs. Both are weak divisions. The NFC West is where the power is with Seattle and SF. By the way, Garrett needs to be dumped in Dallas, but Jones is still backing him. I wonder what will happen after Philly comes in their next Sunday and puts a serious whipping on them. 8-8 and no playoffs once again.

          • December 23, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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            Yesterday was a sad statement for the North. Two teams blown out. Two teams just gave it away late in the game. sad. sad.. sad…
            I do hope Lovie is back to work. There was a rumor going around Green Bay he was headed there for the D coordinator job. Don’t want to see him on their side line…

          • December 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm
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            FFA, tis the season for change in the NFL. A number of coaches and GM’s will be looking for work in the off season. All one has to do is look at all the mediocre teams, mismanaged for personnel and bad coaching to see who needs to go. Parity can be a good thing, but sometimes it makes a lot of teams equally bad and that is not good for the fans. Only the smartest of the GM’s and coaches weather the storm every year and put competitive teams on the field. Draft choices, free agent signings many times don’t work out. Then, when you have a stupid coach running the ball four times from the one with a team that can’t block, they will lose games.

          • December 26, 2013 at 11:57 am
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            FFA, I have decided the NFL has adopted many of the tenets of our government. They have been spreading the wealth around with their system of drafting and succeeded in making most teams equally bad. Only the elite teams win these days. We have a bunch of very bad teams and a few average teams. Back in the day, smart coaches and smart GM’s that burn the midnight oil and work hard were the ones who won championships.

  • December 21, 2013 at 1:59 pm
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    The liar in charge never ceases to amaze me each and every press conference. His hypocrisy has no bounds. You got to admit he keeps a straight face on each and every lie. A true Chicago politician. Works in Detroit as well.
    The problem is there are people that actually believe him. People that don’t watch the news (except maybe local news), those that don’t have any sound on their computers, liberal minions etc. Unbelieveable

    So here is a question for you. Change the (D) behind Obama’s name with a (R). What kind of outrage would that bring compared to what he has gotten so far?

    • December 23, 2013 at 10:53 am
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      Sargeant, our liberal friends don’t watch the real news, and much prefer MSNBC, CNN, NBC or they go on Media Matters, Moveon.org or Huffington Post or they pull up bogus government sites trying to prove a point. Poor Libby doesn’t have sound on her computer so she can’t hear what is coming from her hero’s own lips. Perhaps that is her plan so she can avoid all the serial liar’s pronouncements. She may not have heard him say he had signed up 2 million on the website now. Ha, Ha!

    • December 23, 2013 at 4:02 pm
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      Sargeant, the reason he can keep a straight face is that he has done it so many times, it is committed to memory. He also thinks that the more times he repeats it, the gullible low information voters will believe it like they believed his hope and change message back in 08. Over and over, we hear that drivel that this is the best thing since sliced bread and the hole keeps getting deeper and deeper the more he digs. Unfortunately, reality has set in with millions of Americans in deep trouble because the premise has failed and the website is unusable.

  • December 23, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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    I was getting calls at home yesterday. Cant get the web site to work and Monday is the dead line. What am I supposed to do???

    What do you say to that? Vote against Durbin so the Repbs can get a majority and get this thing kicked. That wont help for now. People are just screwed…… And obama did it to the very people he was supposed to serve and protect.

    • December 23, 2013 at 2:30 pm
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      Good news FFA. Obama is going to grant another 24 hours to apply for the Christmas surprise. Aren’t you thrilled? I wonder if the other 6 million who were cancelled are thrilled as well.

      • December 26, 2013 at 3:44 pm
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        FFA, I think the American People feel much like a condemned prisoner awaiting execution. They get a short reprieve knowing the date has been set again, then another reprieve for a week or so, again waiting for the sentence to be carried out. I don’t see the date moving far beyond 1-1-14, do you?

        • December 27, 2013 at 10:52 am
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          He is OBama so he can make up a new calendar. He can change the definition of words to fit his whim, why not that too???

  • December 23, 2013 at 12:23 pm
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    And God help these people if they are forced to sign onto something worse then the BCBS Bronze… I don’t even pitch that one.

  • December 23, 2013 at 12:32 pm
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    1) Mitt Romney won the election. They said so on Fox News, so it must be true, because they always tell the truth.

    2) “Liberals are all about diversity and debate until someone disagrees with them…” Yeah, conservatives are all about free speech – until someone says “Happy Holidays”. That’s an act of war! There’s a war on Christmas! We’ve got people losing their lives in Afghanistan, and conservatives equate that with someone saying “Happy Holidays”. That’s an insult to our brave men and women in uniform. Oh well, it helps Bill and Sara make more money on book sales, and the mindless sheep are more than happy to part with their money. There’s a sucker born every minute.

    3) What’s going to happen in 6 months? Is it the rapture (again)? Agent, I’ll check back with you on June 23, and we’ll see if your doomsday prediction has come true. Remember the date.

    • December 23, 2013 at 12:40 pm
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      Hey Shirley, we won’t have to wait until June to see the disaster implode. 6 million won’t have insurance 1-1 because there is no replacement and companies aren’t writing Catastrophe policies. Look for it in the first quarter. No need to wait until later.

  • December 23, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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    Shirley don’t work on main st usa…

    • December 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm
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      I agree FFA. Shirley is just another Progressive blogger getting Huffington post quotes or Media Matters. She also denies the obvious and believes her Messiah implicitly. Wow! 2 million have already signed up and only 500,000 affected by cancellations. I think they are short about 5.5 million, don’t you? Where are we on the website that doesn’t work?

  • December 23, 2013 at 1:07 pm
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    I don’t even know what the bad numbers are. What I do know, He needs to go. This is bad, real bad….

    • December 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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      So FFA, on the news, the wonderful leftist state of Oregon seems to be having equally bad issues with their exchange that doesn’t work. They have been using a 19 page paper application. They don’t even have anyone to answer the phone. It is a recorded message that now says, if you have not received confirmation of coverage by 12-23, then you should make arrangements for coverage elsewhere. Isn’t that great?

      I also saw something that the guy who was in charge of the Oregon exchange resigned last week. I wonder if he is hiding out in Hawaii with his beloved mentor.

    • December 23, 2013 at 4:51 pm
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      FFA, CNN/Gallup poll today says support for this “law” has reached a new low of 35% support and opposition is at 62%. Joe Manchin of West Virginia now says the law is in meltdown. Do you think?

    • December 26, 2013 at 11:45 am
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      Hey FFA, I hope you had a Merry Christmas up there on the frozen tundra. Have you received your Obamacare Enrollment Packet yet? It contains the following:
      1. An aspirin and a bandaid
      2. An Obama Hope & Change bumper sticker
      3. A Bush’s Fault yard sign
      4. A Blame the Republicans first, then anybody and everybody poster
      5. A Tax the Rich banner
      6. An application for unemployment and a free cellphone
      7. An application for food stamps
      8. A prayer rug
      9. A letter assigning my debt to my grandchildren

      Everything was made in China and all directions were in Spanish.

      Keep an eye out. Yours should be arriving soon.

    • December 26, 2013 at 5:15 pm
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      FFA, did you catch any of the story about the Town Hall Al Sharpton had about the problems of south side Chicago and gun violence. I saw a video of it sent by a friend and it was on Patriot Action Network and the story was written by Allen West. The video had a number of speakers of the black community ravaged by violent crime and corruption. They all let Emanuel, the city council have it with both barrels. Did any of the local networks cover this event or was it reported in any newspaper. I could understand if the City Government would suppress criticism of their agenda. Looks to me like the south side black community has awakened from their slumber. They had no compliments whatsoever.

      • December 27, 2013 at 10:48 am
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        They are the ones shooting each other up. Maybe a look in the mirror would be good.

        I tend to change the channel when Sharpton (Rev Jess too) is on, so no I did not watch that. Nothing but a bunch of loud mouth hypocrite.

        Either way, if them two loud mouths can get the violence down, then God bless them. Rahms crime stats say his programs are working. The are boasting the lowest murder tally fro some time.

  • December 23, 2013 at 9:12 pm
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    Agent said- “Cracker Barrel has found out it is not wise to tick off the people. They had taken down Duck Dynasty items from their shelves.”

    Agent, that did not work out for Cracker barrel did it? LOL! I guess the gay’s, transvestites and transgenders got their skirts in an up roar and thought that everyone should bash freedom of speech, the first amendment. Fact is he did not say anything specific about an individual. He spoke his mind on a subject. That is freedom of speech. Now take the “Other side”m They bash people all the time, IE Robertson and they feel it is OK. They also flaunt their persuasion in front of everyone and claim freedom of speech
    Then take TV productions like Queer eye for the straight guy, Modern Family and other smut, Brokeback Mountain etc and that is supposed to be OK. According to them, the Christians are the bad people. I’ll take a duck hunter with a shotgun, morals and a conscience any day.

  • December 26, 2013 at 10:13 am
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    Obamacare’s negative effects as being see already, even though dominating the media, are simply a microcosm of government policy in general. Virtually all well-intended (assuming they are in fact well-intended) government policies bring negative unintended consequences that hurt the very people they intend to serve. The prevalence of this paradox, called iatrogenics (originally used in the medical context to refer to doctors’ actions that hurt patients), should give pause to those who favor government intervention to solve societal problems.

    • December 26, 2013 at 11:50 am
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      Live Free, Ronald Reagan once said big Government is not the solution, it is the problem. He also said to beware of the government if a guy shows up and says he is from the government and he is there to help.

      A basic creed of the medical community is – First, do no harm. Unfortunately, a lot of harm will be done by this unaffordable health law because of rationing, doctors dropping out and long lines of people thinking they can get care when they can’t.

      • December 26, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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        A nice quote from a pretty terrible president. Funny how he was also a big part of the Government not being the solution. Government lacks the ability to consider consequences and he was the same way (even though probably well intentioned again).

        But I completely agree, rationing, doctors, and long lines are just a few of the problems that the people this law is supposed to help will actually be harmed by. I just hope that the growing coalition of people recognizing this paradox will take this revelation and apply it to other policy arenas as well.

        • December 26, 2013 at 5:47 pm
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          Hey LiveFree, there are a lot of Americans who think Ronny was the greatest President in the last 100 years. Please cite one President in your memory who was a better President than him so I can determine your leanings. I hope you aren’t another Ron who has to go to a government website to do your thinking for you.

          • December 27, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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            I very well know that a lot of Americans think Reagan was the greatest the same way a lot think LBJ was a great one as well. Both IMO are very wrong.

            Reagan and his “capitalism” and success’s are a myth and he has done more harm to capitalism than any good as a result. I still like Ronald Reagan as a man. The man projected optimism and I think he genuinely loved Amercia. Unfortunately, we often are trapped by image over reality.

            In reality he supported artificially low interest rates (Volcker saved the economy by raising interest rates) actually raised the business tax (see article below), as well as the income taxes on the middle class and poor, which also decreases the tax cuts on the wealthy (he sneakily used bracket creep to tax without people noticing).

            Also, no one who supports the war on drugs or the military industrial complex or foreign aid can be considered a true fiscal conservative or even a capitalist. IIRC, the budget for the World Bank also doubled during his regime, and he also increased gov’t spending by 68% from what Jimmy Carter (who is criticized as a over spender ironically) spent in his term before Reagan.

            People like Reagan and Jack Kemp with their pro-deficit Supply-side economics BS are ultimately more harmful to capitalism than people like Obama. Uneducated people often mistake Reagan for a capitalist and use him for an example as to why they think capitalism doesn’t work. Even worse I believe those who recognize him to be evil (a lot of people do, mostly lefties), but don’t understand economics, will tend to associate capitalism with him, and therefore consider it to be evil too.

            Good article by Rothbard: http://mises.org/daily/1544

            Better presidents: Jefferson, Jackson, Harrison (in office 32 days so couldn’t screw anything up lol), Cleveland, and plenty more but I digress.

  • December 27, 2013 at 10:43 am
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    Hey Agent- Ford – No Harm, No Foul??? The one who did nothing, tried nothing accomplished nothing. (JK)

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      Thanks for explaining your beliefs LiveFree. You are sounding more like Planet than LiveFree I agreed with a lot of times. I guess that is a cautionary tale I will have to take into account with future posts. I did get a laugh out of you saying that Reagan was more harmful to Capitalism than Obama. I think you in a little over your head on that one. By the way, I mentioned greatest Presidents of the last hundred years, not all the way back to the founding fathers like Jefferson etc. I do agree that Jefferson was one of the greatest of all and was very brilliant. He would be turning over in his grave with what this nation has become in today’s world.

      • December 30, 2013 at 2:09 pm
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        Take it as you will. I see you didn’t bother to look at the article I provided which proves that Reagan was not a good president. I won’t change my view on your posts which still are the same as they were before which is that you are as emotionally biased as the liberals that you bash. And to be clear (which appears to be hard for you) you didn’t say the last over the 100 years, you said “in your memory” and I remember studying every president, maybe you should study them as well.

        Funny that you weren’t able to defend against any of the points I brought up, which were substance containing (albeit in summary) points to my argument. Instead you just claimed that I was “in over my head”… projecting much perhaps? Where is your argument? Don’t have one? Interesting…

    • December 31, 2013 at 10:14 am
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      Yes FFA. Ford was a status quo kind of guy and didn’t do much in his short tenure. However, that was a good thing. He didn’t screw around with the economy which was pretty good, didn’t mess with Healthcare which was pretty good then and he didn’t get us bogged down in any more foreign adventures which was a good thing. The country needed healing from the Vietnam War end and the debacle of Nixon. He said he pardoned Nixon to avoid further disruption to the country. We can argue whether that was the right or wrong thing to do, but it did cost him the next election. Ford enjoyed his retirement, played a lot of golf and he was well liked in the end.



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