Replacement = several interconnected ‘steps’ that Nancy Pelosi Galore wouldn’t be able to read and comprehend. It includes legislation to allow writing HI across state lines, tort reforms – state by state, federal AND state income tax credits for HI premiums paid into health savings accounts, health savings account definition re-write on a state by state AND Federal level to coincide with the above legislated tax credits legislation, and several other steps I am not at liberty to discuss, or do not know because they haven’t yet been agreed upon by the NEW Congress.
I propose legislation to impose severe penalties on Jonathan Gruber, Valerie Jarrett, Nancy Pelosi Galore, Harry Reid, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, and the estate of Ted Kennedy, to recoup all of the lost wages, increased premiums that are deemed unnecessary and resulting from the ACA, and impose a hyuuuuge punitive damage award for the misery previously and currently imposed on working US citizens by the ACA.
It should easily pass thru Congress on a partisan basis. But it must wait until after 1/20/17 to avoid a POTUS veto.
You can only propose legislation if you’re in Congress, which you are not. For all we know, you might the 400 lb. hacker in NJ that Trump alludes too. How’s the pro Putin vote working for ya?
Citizens can propose legislation. Deal with it. Here’s how it is done; you write a bill proposal and send it to your Congressional representative to consider. Got it?
The steps will be published if they are accepted by the Committee from among at least four plans and some pieces of plans proposed by different individuals. I don’t know what EVERYONE is proposing. But some of the four plans, if not all of them, have been published… Goo Gul it.
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How did Obama’s meddling in the Israeli election work out for him; i.e. the hypocrite concerned with Russian hacking AFTER HRC lost.
How did Obama’s meddling in the Brexit vote work out for him; i.e. the hypocrite concerned with Russian hacking AFTER HRC lost.
Excuse me, but I’ve got to leave to go to a liquor store to stock up on vodka for my inauguration party on 1/20/17.
Dear Comrade Trumpolarbear: Better question: How did Bibi’s meddling with the GOP congress work out for him in the end with the United Nations Resolution. He used the GOP to win his own race — and screwed the Israeli people in the end. There are a dozen eggs on Bibi’s face right now — and he earned every one.
Ask questions of someone else who cares to answer them.
You’re questions are a waste of time.
January 5, 2017 at 11:23 am
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Dear Comrade Trumpolarbear — and yet you responded even as you said it was a waste of time…
January 5, 2017 at 1:20 pm
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Celtica,
“Comrade” – that’s awesome. Can’t spell Russia without U, S, and A. Evidently, we’re supposed to like Ivan Drago now and not Rocky Balboa.
January 5, 2017 at 1:41 pm
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Hi, Captain Planet, I would say you cannot make this stuff up, but apparently you can. And it was already made into a movie, “The Manchurian Candidate.”
January 5, 2017 at 2:03 pm
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Celtica is a frustrated, whiny, crybaby, loser liberal. And angry as hell, too.
December 30, 2016 at 12:38 pm
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Nancy Pelosi Galore’s signature bill is about to be REPEALED.
A little over 21 days will pass before it is repealed.
Meanwhile, Pelosi Galore is having another hissy fit about The Will of The People being carried out by the MAJORITY Party in Congress…
For Libitterals, a power grab by Dems isn’t the same thing as a power grab by Republicans. For libitteral hypocrites, a power grab by them is OK…. because they think they are smarter than everyone else. But their perceived intellectual superiority still hasn’t led them to the underlying cause of their massive downfall over the last 8 years. They need a mirror to gaze into, for help with that puzzling issue that hasn’t evaded sane members of society.
DePolar, I am not sure a ColonObama-oscopy would reveal anything in a Progressive. Perhaps a frontal lobotomy would be of benefit to them. Progressivism is a mental disorder and the infection rate for the past 8 years has been widespread. Good to see the country has finally awakened and tossed the leaders out. Further treatment is warranted to the sore losers.
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Actually you imbecile it has dropped every year since 2010.
I have never seen a single comment you have made that can be fact checked that anybody checked that turned out to be right.
You are a disgrace to the industry, to thinking people, and to the country. You should be ashamed to exist with this continued level of abject, proud, stupidity. GO AWAY MORON.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, I’m so old, I remember when President-Elect Kiddie Porn Watching Perverted Incest-Curious Alleged Child Raping Dishonest Dumb Donnie Tic Tacs and his sexually deranged carnival digits said this:
“On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Let’s see if he’s a man of his word. He also has a wall with a big beautiful door to build and make Mexico pay for it, a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, leave social security as is, and completely destroy ISIS. I’m not holding my breath since the guy lies over 70% of the time he talks. But the rubes sure bought it.
I almost forgot, Cheetohlini also promised to sue all of the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them. Rubes bought that one, too. This guy did a great job of putting ‘con’ in conservative. He might be the greatest con man ever.
DePolar, oh golly gee, Ford decided to completely cancel their Mexican auto plant. Something about the 35% surcharge sending vehicles back in seemed to weigh on their decision. The unions are delirious.
DePolar, did Obama announce his plan for Healthcare reform two weeks before he was sworn in? If so, I can’t find any info on it. I do remember him after being sworn in go around the country making 28 major speeches trying to sell it, lying about anything and everything. Hannity played several clips last night.
He made a big mess with the one he passed without bi-partisan support, lied, lied, lied some more and when he wasn’t lying about it, he had Jonathon Gruber do some more lying about it. Let’s not leave out Nancy Pelosi Galore and Harry Reid and Chucky Smucky Schumer, your esteemed Senator. They all had their grubby finger prints all over this disaster. Now, Republicans have to clean it all up. Thank you Obama for being the worst President in history.
January 6, 2017 at 8:17 am
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Agent,
I could not help but notice that you did not address the fact that the Republicans have been telling us for 6+ years that they have a plan to replace the PPACA, yet now they need more time to finalize said plan.
They either need to present their replacement in the form of a bill soon or admit that they were lying.
I know they will not because that would mean they would need to show interest in governing or take personal responsibility. Neither of which are part of the new republican platform of obstructing, complaining and blaming.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, I’m so old, I remember when President-Elect Kiddie Porn Watching Perverted Incest-Curious Alleged Child Raping Dishonest Dumb Donnie Tic Tacs and his sexually deranged carnival digits said this:
“On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Let’s see if he’s a man of his word. He also has a wall with a big beautiful door to build and make Mexico pay for it, a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, leave social security as is, and completely destroy ISIS. I’m not holding my breath since the guy lies over 70% of the time he talks. But the rubes sure bought it.
I almost forgot, Cheetohlini also promised to sue all of the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them. Rubes bought that one, too. This guy did a great job of putting ‘con’ in conservative. He might be the greatest con man ever.
Good luck getting Chester Cheeto Chesus to open himself to discovery where he can’t lie. I wonder if Agent actually supports the sexual assaults or just accepts them?
Cheetohlini — it has a certain ring to it, just like Silvio Berlusconi but with Cheetohs. Wonder when the Bunga-Bunga girls show up since First Lady # 2 isn’t moving to the White House anytime soon, if ever.
FFA, you are now experiencing the avalanche of dislikes that we get all the time from the left. In the past, almost no one down thumbed you because you didn’t challenge the “liars from the left”. Now, they are so desperate and such sore losers, join me and TrumPolar and others in the down vote parade with the likes of UW, Planet, Celtica, Actu. That’s ok, they haven’t silenced us yet.
January 5, 2017 at 5:34 pm
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For the thousandth time, I do not use the voting buttons. Man alive!
January 4, 2017 at 5:41 pm
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Perplexed, the triumvirate of Planet, UW & Actu are easily the sorest of losers on this site. Skip right over their posts.
That’s right lets kick the people who need health care of the rolls and give a big tax break to the top 1% because the really need a break to buy more stuff .welcome to the Trump white house.
6 million policyholders had their policies cancelled when this dastardly legislation was passed and forced to go to a website that didn’t work. I would say that was not a good thing to do.
What everyone in this discussion seems to forget is there are GOOD points to ACA – before it’s passage many people could not obtain health insurance at ANY price due to pre-existing conditions.
Good move, take them policies away from all the folks who need the coverage and put ’em back on board the SS WELFARE STATE, push ’em away from the dock and watch her sink.
Not true. It will be modified, not repealed. This is for the greater good, and there is no reason to preserve an antiquated law that is impinging on the ability of health insurers to operate more efficiently.
The NAIC needs to address this issue with the incomimg administration.
Why would that make any difference? Especially the states with poor UW results. My carrier in WI shouldn’t even consider Il as a potential market.
That would just be a poor decision to do something that stupid.
There’s a new sheriff in town. Deal with it. I hope the Republicans learn from the deplorable Democrats mistake. And that is give them a seat at the table in developing a replacement for Obamacare, don’t ram it down the Democrats and American people’s throat with ZERO support from the Democrats like the Democrats did to the Republicans. There are many Democrats they will be unable to work with who still do not acknowledge the shellacking they just got and will dig their heels in. Pelosi, Schumer, Durban, Waters, Warren, etc. But there are a few moderate Democrats left in both Houses that can be worked with, who want to protect their seats. Bring them in the door. Don’t make this so one sided as the Democrats did.
Dave, I would call the Democrats “despicable”, not Deplorables. Hilliary insulted Republicans by calling them Deplorables, much to her chagrin. Deplorables were much smarter than the elitist Progressives in their choice for President.
I do think the mood of the country is to get rid of this legislation and Dimocrats who seek to block it do so at their own peril. Many are up for re-election and it will be well publicized who are in the opposition minority party. The good news is that Dirty Harry is no longer there to run the show in the Senate.
Agent,
You at least have to be truthful. Hillary called half of Drumpf supporters “deplorables”. I know for a fact not every Republican supported Drumpf. Heck, not even half the nation supported Drumpf. So, Hillary literally called much less than half of Republicans “deplorables”.
Planetorium, the truth is that Trump won and the wicked witch of the East lost. She has no idea what the truth is and had all the wrong messages she uttered. On top of that, she is a criminal who should be prosecuted. Wonder when that pardon will be granted. It is getting late in the day and Obama is still playing golf in Hawaii.
The only reason Republicans will bring in Democrats is so they have someone to blame if it fails. I prefer the Republicans to pass and implement their own plan so all of the credit/blame falls on them. If it is great and solves our health care/insurance problems, then kudos to them. If not, take responsibility and admit your failure.
>There are many Democrats they will be unable to work with who still do not acknowledge the shellacking they just got and will dig their heels in.
Wtf are you talking about? Millions more people voted against Trump and Republican policies. The electoral college picking an unpopular president is not a shellacking.
Try to be patient Ron if you can. The man will not be in office for 16 more days. It was good to see Pence and Priebus in the halls of Congress meeting with legislators about the plan that will replace the worst legislation of the past 100 years.
Are you conceding that the Republicans have been lying to us and never really had a replacement plan?
They have had nearly 7 years to create one. They could at least started writing the bill to replace the PPACA starting November 9.
Until proven wrong, I stand by my position that the Republicans never had a real plan, outside of talking points, and have no real interest in governing.
This was their chance to prove me wrong and they failed.
“I’m getting to it, don’t worry,” the media mogul said. “On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Just another lie, add it to the 70+% of whatever else comes out of the prostitute mongering grandson’s mouth.
Yep, Agent has been crowing about the plan that the GOP had for the last 8 years. You know, the vastly superior plan, the plan that no one, including the GOP, has ever, ever seen.
Since President Obama did not name the PPACA after himself, he may not have a choice. Assuming the Republicans actually do come up with a replacement, it will most likely be referred to as Trumpcare. That is just how it works.
I remember watching the Romney Obama Debate and Romney asked him point blank – Can we call It OBama Care? And oBama said Yes. He stated he liked the way it sounded.
FFA, I saw that on the Hate Crime. Lot of hate in this country and Chicago is a cess pool of hate. How many murders in Chicago in 2016? Wasn’t it in excess of 750 for that strict gun control city? Trump sent a message to Dead Fish that the Feds may come in to stop that violence and put those gangs out of business.
January 9, 2017 at 1:41 pm
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Rauner has offered the National Guard. Citizens in Englewood District – the worst of the worst – have also petitioned rahm for the National Guard.
Talk about Disconnect…
January 4, 2017 at 4:09 pm
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Seriously? Have you not heard of Trump Tower, Trump Hotels, Trump Condos, Trump University, Trump Wine, Trump Steaks, Trump Water????
Those are all private business ventures.
He would be a fool to name any Law after himself. Weather he is or isn’t remains to be seen.
He isnt even a part of this stuff going on today.
FFA, he told George ” I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life ”
I’ll stand my statement that he would be a fool to do that. A fool.
After my interaction with a ofnbama care client, she had to change docs AGAIN because the docs / provider want nothing to do with this. Ded & Co Pay too high for average Joe to cover so they lose.
He would be wise to bring in the WI folks that over see the Health & Human Services. My monthly premiums went down by $200 up here. Why? Their Opiad program is getting much of the credit with less then 10% participation. I can only imagine when others get on board.
Wonder if Stanley Tools will be looking at the Janesville Redevelopment program (shovel ready sites for $1.00). Dollar General did. I notice another plant being constructed about 100 feet from the Il border on the Wi side.
FFA, how about Republicare? After all, this country is a Republic, not a Democracy as the leftists believe.
Great news on the internet this afternoon. Tucker Carlson is taking over the Megyn slot at Fox. His career has shot up like a rocket in recent weeks. He is a really sharp young man, Conservative and puts the liberals down with humor and logic. Such a refreshing change from Megyn, the liberal who has said she admires the reporters at the National Barack Channel. If that is what floats her boat, do it.
You mean Julian Assange’s Firefox News? Agent, when you think back on that slab of ice in Lake Placid, NY back in 1980, do you now find yourself hoping the Russians stop the miracle?
Maybe it will utilize local professional licensed and regulated people along with tech that works instead of foreign call centers and a cronyism deal with someones college pal in a foreign nation.
Maybe the jobs will come back to American Business like agents that are licensed, trained, insured and regulated. People that can pluck one maybe two people in the local communities off the unemployment / underemployment line.
Hi FFA, Happy New Year. 16 more days to go before the long nightmare of Obama is over. Gone are the Clinton’s. Gone is the agenda of Progressives, hopefully for decades. My kids and grand kids actually will have a chance to succeed in the coming years. Business will continue to get better because taxes will be lowered, nasty EPA regulations will disappear.
How can your grand kids have a chance to succeed if we keep killing the planet? They are going to be too busy picking up our garbage and trying to establish a moon colony. You conservatives love to not truly ‘conserve’ what actually matters. At least live up to your character.
FFA, the Democrats did it to themselves and have to blame anything and everything on their defeat. Julian Assange is the one to thank. He said Podesta’s emails could be hacked by a child. His password was password. How stupid could he be? They got caught and the wicked witch of the East suffered the consequences.
So, because he was on Sean Ins-Hannity, we are onto cheering for Ivan Drago rather than Rocky Balboa. Ok, got it. Up is down, left is right, cats and dogs living together…
I recommend reading the whole article, but here are a couple of interesting tidbits:
“The replacement part?
‘We have six months to replace it,’ argued Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., after the Pence huddle.
Although, that’s not settled.
It could be a year. It could be a few years until Republicans require a replacement bill to come into effect – even as the GOP sung the ‘repeal and replace’ mantra for years.”
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“Any idea what the GOP plan might look like?
‘They didn’t give us any details,’ said Rep. Mark Amodei, R-Nev., as he departed the Pence conclave”
Then there is this morsel:
“Part of the challenge lies in the potential cost of repeal. Estimates vary wildly on how much an ObamaCare repeal would add to the deficit. It hinges on who you talk to and what metric they use. Various figures range from $350 billion to $1 trillion to $9 trillion over a longer period.
But one thing is clear: Republicans already prepped a provision to ignore internal congressional budgetary rules if the repeal is successful and explodes the federal deficit.
Efforts to defang the House’s quasi-official ethics watchdog office scored most of the attention early this week as the GOP advanced a “rules” package to govern the body during this Congress. But Republicans tucked a provision into the plan which bars the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) from counting a dramatic spike in deficit spending spurred by an ObamaCare repeal. Language in the resolution bars the CBO from tallying the cost of any ObamaCare repeal bill that bloats deficit spending by more than $5 billion over the next decade and $20 billion over the next four decades.”
I guess candidate Trump lied about repealing the PPACA on day one and replacing it on day two.
Unfortunately Ron, seems to be what is happening.
Sad but true….
Long time ago a hand shake meant something.
Long time ago, the nation was shocked that Nixon lied to us. Now, politicians are expected to lie.
Sad.
January 6, 2017 at 12:20 pm
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I thought President Trump was going to be different, take us back to those days, and make us great again.
He hasn’t even been sworn in yet and the standard has already been lowered for him.
That, to me, is what is sad.
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Ron, my first concern was getting rid of the PPACA. Seems to be in motion.
My second concern is jobs. He has already had a positive impact on that and he is not even in office yet (Carrier / Ford / IBM and now Stanley tools). All staying in the US. Hiring Americans.
I see someone roboted my post down on a previous post when I advocated for Agents – Americans – to be in the mix instead of foreign call centers. So, I disagree with whom ever did that as they favor foreign labor as opposed to AMERICANS at work.
The wall???? I could care less.
Hopefully, he will come to realize that lies are not the way it should be. hopefully all politicians will realize that some day – hopefully sooner rather then later.
Yes Ron, I continue to hold out for Hope. Truth. Honesty. Peace among our countrymen / women. I’ll worry about the rest of the world when the problems on the Home Land are addressed.
Celtica,
Face it, he’s our President. The real question is, now that Ivan Drago has knocked out both Apollo Creed and Rocky Balboa, who does he fight next?
Repeal = a single bill of about 5 pages.
Replacement = several interconnected ‘steps’ that Nancy Pelosi Galore wouldn’t be able to read and comprehend. It includes legislation to allow writing HI across state lines, tort reforms – state by state, federal AND state income tax credits for HI premiums paid into health savings accounts, health savings account definition re-write on a state by state AND Federal level to coincide with the above legislated tax credits legislation, and several other steps I am not at liberty to discuss, or do not know because they haven’t yet been agreed upon by the NEW Congress.
I propose legislation to impose severe penalties on Jonathan Gruber, Valerie Jarrett, Nancy Pelosi Galore, Harry Reid, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, and the estate of Ted Kennedy, to recoup all of the lost wages, increased premiums that are deemed unnecessary and resulting from the ACA, and impose a hyuuuuge punitive damage award for the misery previously and currently imposed on working US citizens by the ACA.
It should easily pass thru Congress on a partisan basis. But it must wait until after 1/20/17 to avoid a POTUS veto.
You can only propose legislation if you’re in Congress, which you are not. For all we know, you might the 400 lb. hacker in NJ that Trump alludes too. How’s the pro Putin vote working for ya?
Citizens can propose legislation. Deal with it. Here’s how it is done; you write a bill proposal and send it to your Congressional representative to consider. Got it?
Dear Comrade Trump Polar Bear, You are not at liberty to disclose the several other steps? How is that basement in NJ?
The steps will be published if they are accepted by the Committee from among at least four plans and some pieces of plans proposed by different individuals. I don’t know what EVERYONE is proposing. But some of the four plans, if not all of them, have been published… Goo Gul it.
How did Obama’s meddling in the Israeli election work out for him; i.e. the hypocrite concerned with Russian hacking AFTER HRC lost.
How did Obama’s meddling in the Brexit vote work out for him; i.e. the hypocrite concerned with Russian hacking AFTER HRC lost.
Excuse me, but I’ve got to leave to go to a liquor store to stock up on vodka for my inauguration party on 1/20/17.
Dear Comrade Trumpolarbear: Better question: How did Bibi’s meddling with the GOP congress work out for him in the end with the United Nations Resolution. He used the GOP to win his own race — and screwed the Israeli people in the end. There are a dozen eggs on Bibi’s face right now — and he earned every one.
Ask questions of someone else who cares to answer them.
You’re questions are a waste of time.
Dear Comrade Trumpolarbear — and yet you responded even as you said it was a waste of time…
Celtica,
“Comrade” – that’s awesome. Can’t spell Russia without U, S, and A. Evidently, we’re supposed to like Ivan Drago now and not Rocky Balboa.
Hi, Captain Planet, I would say you cannot make this stuff up, but apparently you can. And it was already made into a movie, “The Manchurian Candidate.”
Celtica is a frustrated, whiny, crybaby, loser liberal. And angry as hell, too.
Nancy Pelosi Galore’s signature bill is about to be REPEALED.
A little over 21 days will pass before it is repealed.
Meanwhile, Pelosi Galore is having another hissy fit about The Will of The People being carried out by the MAJORITY Party in Congress…
http://www.salon.com/2016/12/30/nancy-pelosi-scolds-gop-colleagues-for-attempting-massive-power-grab/?ref=yfp
For Libitterals, a power grab by Dems isn’t the same thing as a power grab by Republicans. For libitteral hypocrites, a power grab by them is OK…. because they think they are smarter than everyone else. But their perceived intellectual superiority still hasn’t led them to the underlying cause of their massive downfall over the last 8 years. They need a mirror to gaze into, for help with that puzzling issue that hasn’t evaded sane members of society.
We have to repeal it because we found out what’s in it. Boy, did we ever find out!
DePolar, yes, it was passed in 2010 and the misery index has been rising ever since along with our taxes to pay for it. What a joke!
It’s been a colonObama-oscopy for the American public, indeed.
DePolar, I am not sure a ColonObama-oscopy would reveal anything in a Progressive. Perhaps a frontal lobotomy would be of benefit to them. Progressivism is a mental disorder and the infection rate for the past 8 years has been widespread. Good to see the country has finally awakened and tossed the leaders out. Further treatment is warranted to the sore losers.
Actually you imbecile it has dropped every year since 2010.
http://www.miseryindex.us/indexbyyear.aspx
I have never seen a single comment you have made that can be fact checked that anybody checked that turned out to be right.
You are a disgrace to the industry, to thinking people, and to the country. You should be ashamed to exist with this continued level of abject, proud, stupidity. GO AWAY MORON.
Losers hid your link. Here it is again deplorable liars. It doesn’t change the truth about Agent being a malinformed loser
http://www.miseryindex.us/indexbyyear.aspx
Patticake, you can make one post and completely offset 10 of Celtica’s posts. Amazingly effective.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, I’m so old, I remember when President-Elect Kiddie Porn Watching Perverted Incest-Curious Alleged Child Raping Dishonest Dumb Donnie Tic Tacs and his sexually deranged carnival digits said this:
“On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Let’s see if he’s a man of his word. He also has a wall with a big beautiful door to build and make Mexico pay for it, a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, leave social security as is, and completely destroy ISIS. I’m not holding my breath since the guy lies over 70% of the time he talks. But the rubes sure bought it.
I almost forgot, Cheetohlini also promised to sue all of the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them. Rubes bought that one, too. This guy did a great job of putting ‘con’ in conservative. He might be the greatest con man ever.
I see our libitterals are still in the early stages of grief / loss.
DePolar, oh golly gee, Ford decided to completely cancel their Mexican auto plant. Something about the 35% surcharge sending vehicles back in seemed to weigh on their decision. The unions are delirious.
Dummies believe everything they read on righty sites. Sad.
#sad #verybad #tinyorangefingers
DePolar, did Obama announce his plan for Healthcare reform two weeks before he was sworn in? If so, I can’t find any info on it. I do remember him after being sworn in go around the country making 28 major speeches trying to sell it, lying about anything and everything. Hannity played several clips last night.
I also do not recall him telling us for 6+ years that he wants to repeal and replace an existing law and that he already has a better plan.
He made a big mess with the one he passed without bi-partisan support, lied, lied, lied some more and when he wasn’t lying about it, he had Jonathon Gruber do some more lying about it. Let’s not leave out Nancy Pelosi Galore and Harry Reid and Chucky Smucky Schumer, your esteemed Senator. They all had their grubby finger prints all over this disaster. Now, Republicans have to clean it all up. Thank you Obama for being the worst President in history.
Agent,
I could not help but notice that you did not address the fact that the Republicans have been telling us for 6+ years that they have a plan to replace the PPACA, yet now they need more time to finalize said plan.
They either need to present their replacement in the form of a bill soon or admit that they were lying.
I know they will not because that would mean they would need to show interest in governing or take personal responsibility. Neither of which are part of the new republican platform of obstructing, complaining and blaming.
You watch Hannity, I knew it. Says EVERYTHING.
DePolar, Planet has gone completely off the deep end. Could a padded cell be next in line?
Yes, that or a seat in his libitteral hometown Dem controlled Town Council. …. will fit in perfectly.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, I’m so old, I remember when President-Elect Kiddie Porn Watching Perverted Incest-Curious Alleged Child Raping Dishonest Dumb Donnie Tic Tacs and his sexually deranged carnival digits said this:
“On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Let’s see if he’s a man of his word. He also has a wall with a big beautiful door to build and make Mexico pay for it, a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, leave social security as is, and completely destroy ISIS. I’m not holding my breath since the guy lies over 70% of the time he talks. But the rubes sure bought it.
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I almost forgot, Cheetohlini also promised to sue all of the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them. Rubes bought that one, too. This guy did a great job of putting ‘con’ in conservative. He might be the greatest con man ever.
Good luck getting Chester Cheeto Chesus to open himself to discovery where he can’t lie. I wonder if Agent actually supports the sexual assaults or just accepts them?
Cheetohlini — it has a certain ring to it, just like Silvio Berlusconi but with Cheetohs. Wonder when the Bunga-Bunga girls show up since First Lady # 2 isn’t moving to the White House anytime soon, if ever.
Captain, your posts have gotten so bizarre that I find myself not glancing at them. I just go down the side and “unlike” EVERY one.
Im not the only one that noticed?
FFA, you are now experiencing the avalanche of dislikes that we get all the time from the left. In the past, almost no one down thumbed you because you didn’t challenge the “liars from the left”. Now, they are so desperate and such sore losers, join me and TrumPolar and others in the down vote parade with the likes of UW, Planet, Celtica, Actu. That’s ok, they haven’t silenced us yet.
For the thousandth time, I do not use the voting buttons. Man alive!
Perplexed, the triumvirate of Planet, UW & Actu are easily the sorest of losers on this site. Skip right over their posts.
I will suggest to IJ an ‘ignore’ feature for these boards.
Will IJ implement the idea or will it leave this board as a cesspool of comments by libitterals?
Yes, there should only be right wing hate radio on this site!
Dear Comrade Trumpolar bear, you and Agent have been posting a cesspool of comments for the last 8 years. Why stop now?
Perplexed,
I don’t care, but I understand. It’s the new way, just censor if you don’t agree with it. These voices won’t go away.
That’s right lets kick the people who need health care of the rolls and give a big tax break to the top 1% because the really need a break to buy more stuff .welcome to the Trump white house.
6 million policyholders had their policies cancelled when this dastardly legislation was passed and forced to go to a website that didn’t work. I would say that was not a good thing to do.
What everyone in this discussion seems to forget is there are GOOD points to ACA – before it’s passage many people could not obtain health insurance at ANY price due to pre-existing conditions.
ICHIP in Ill. Badger Care in WI. Hoosier Care in Indiana. All available pre OBama Care in three states.
I’ld be willing to lay money down that something existed in the other states as well.
Good move, take them policies away from all the folks who need the coverage and put ’em back on board the SS WELFARE STATE, push ’em away from the dock and watch her sink.
Sell insurance across state lines, huumm, good-by McCarrann-Ferguson.
Not true. It will be modified, not repealed. This is for the greater good, and there is no reason to preserve an antiquated law that is impinging on the ability of health insurers to operate more efficiently.
The NAIC needs to address this issue with the incomimg administration.
Why would that make any difference? Especially the states with poor UW results. My carrier in WI shouldn’t even consider Il as a potential market.
That would just be a poor decision to do something that stupid.
There’s a new sheriff in town. Deal with it. I hope the Republicans learn from the deplorable Democrats mistake. And that is give them a seat at the table in developing a replacement for Obamacare, don’t ram it down the Democrats and American people’s throat with ZERO support from the Democrats like the Democrats did to the Republicans. There are many Democrats they will be unable to work with who still do not acknowledge the shellacking they just got and will dig their heels in. Pelosi, Schumer, Durban, Waters, Warren, etc. But there are a few moderate Democrats left in both Houses that can be worked with, who want to protect their seats. Bring them in the door. Don’t make this so one sided as the Democrats did.
Dave, I would call the Democrats “despicable”, not Deplorables. Hilliary insulted Republicans by calling them Deplorables, much to her chagrin. Deplorables were much smarter than the elitist Progressives in their choice for President.
I do think the mood of the country is to get rid of this legislation and Dimocrats who seek to block it do so at their own peril. Many are up for re-election and it will be well publicized who are in the opposition minority party. The good news is that Dirty Harry is no longer there to run the show in the Senate.
Agent,
You at least have to be truthful. Hillary called half of Drumpf supporters “deplorables”. I know for a fact not every Republican supported Drumpf. Heck, not even half the nation supported Drumpf. So, Hillary literally called much less than half of Republicans “deplorables”.
Planetorium, the truth is that Trump won and the wicked witch of the East lost. She has no idea what the truth is and had all the wrong messages she uttered. On top of that, she is a criminal who should be prosecuted. Wonder when that pardon will be granted. It is getting late in the day and Obama is still playing golf in Hawaii.
Dave,
The only reason Republicans will bring in Democrats is so they have someone to blame if it fails. I prefer the Republicans to pass and implement their own plan so all of the credit/blame falls on them. If it is great and solves our health care/insurance problems, then kudos to them. If not, take responsibility and admit your failure.
>There are many Democrats they will be unable to work with who still do not acknowledge the shellacking they just got and will dig their heels in.
Wtf are you talking about? Millions more people voted against Trump and Republican policies. The electoral college picking an unpopular president is not a shellacking.
We have been told for years that the Republicans have this grand plan for health care reform. Now it could take more years to see it?
Now we await their blind sheep to come to their defense.
Try to be patient Ron if you can. The man will not be in office for 16 more days. It was good to see Pence and Priebus in the halls of Congress meeting with legislators about the plan that will replace the worst legislation of the past 100 years.
Are you conceding that the Republicans have been lying to us and never really had a replacement plan?
They have had nearly 7 years to create one. They could at least started writing the bill to replace the PPACA starting November 9.
Until proven wrong, I stand by my position that the Republicans never had a real plan, outside of talking points, and have no real interest in governing.
This was their chance to prove me wrong and they failed.
The TWICster to George Stephanapolous:
“I’m getting to it, don’t worry,” the media mogul said. “On the first day of presidency, on my very first day I plan to repeal Obamacare so hard that it’ll make his ancestors in Africa shiver with awe. I mean, I am going to take that piece of legislation and wipe my a** with it. That’s how much I dislike Obamacare and what I think about it. By the way, that’s also how I feel about Ted Cruz, but that’s not the point right now,” Trump said jokingly, causing Stephanopoulos to laugh.
“Seriously though,” the billionaire businessman continued, “that’s what I plan on doing. And then first thing in the morning on day two, I’m going to replace it with a much better service that’s genuinely going to take care of every poor person in the United States. I’m talking daily food rations, clean clothes, a place to spend the night, possibly new jobs, it’s all going to be awesome, it’s going to be utopia. I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life.”
Just another lie, add it to the 70+% of whatever else comes out of the prostitute mongering grandson’s mouth.
Yep, Agent has been crowing about the plan that the GOP had for the last 8 years. You know, the vastly superior plan, the plan that no one, including the GOP, has ever, ever seen.
Okay, repeal and REPLACE. Please show us the plan you always said the GOP had. Bring on Trumpcare — if you can.
I dont think he would be dumb enough to name it after himself. But then again….
FFA,
Since President Obama did not name the PPACA after himself, he may not have a choice. Assuming the Republicans actually do come up with a replacement, it will most likely be referred to as Trumpcare. That is just how it works.
I remember watching the Romney Obama Debate and Romney asked him point blank – Can we call It OBama Care? And oBama said Yes. He stated he liked the way it sounded.
So, no matter the name, he gave it his approval.
oBama Care is Slang. Trumpcare would be the same – Slang. People will do what they do.
Have you seen the news about the mentally challenged guy being tortured while the offenders shout things like F… Trump. F… White People.
Could be the first Political Hate Crime charge. How fitting. In Chicago. Hope they sentence them to death.
FFA, I saw that on the Hate Crime. Lot of hate in this country and Chicago is a cess pool of hate. How many murders in Chicago in 2016? Wasn’t it in excess of 750 for that strict gun control city? Trump sent a message to Dead Fish that the Feds may come in to stop that violence and put those gangs out of business.
Rauner has offered the National Guard. Citizens in Englewood District – the worst of the worst – have also petitioned rahm for the National Guard.
Talk about Disconnect…
Seriously? Have you not heard of Trump Tower, Trump Hotels, Trump Condos, Trump University, Trump Wine, Trump Steaks, Trump Water????
Those are all private business ventures.
He would be a fool to name any Law after himself. Weather he is or isn’t remains to be seen.
He isnt even a part of this stuff going on today.
FFA, he told George ” I’m going to make it so good that people are going to want to become homeless just to qualify for Trumpcare. And by the way, that’s what I’m going to call it. A huge, flashy neon sign is going to be placed above the entrance to every Trumpcare facility across the country. I want people to know who made it possible for them to have a better life ”
That is an exact quote from Drumpf.
I’ll stand my statement that he would be a fool to do that. A fool.
After my interaction with a ofnbama care client, she had to change docs AGAIN because the docs / provider want nothing to do with this. Ded & Co Pay too high for average Joe to cover so they lose.
He would be wise to bring in the WI folks that over see the Health & Human Services. My monthly premiums went down by $200 up here. Why? Their Opiad program is getting much of the credit with less then 10% participation. I can only imagine when others get on board.
Wonder if Stanley Tools will be looking at the Janesville Redevelopment program (shovel ready sites for $1.00). Dollar General did. I notice another plant being constructed about 100 feet from the Il border on the Wi side.
FFA, how about Republicare? After all, this country is a Republic, not a Democracy as the leftists believe.
Great news on the internet this afternoon. Tucker Carlson is taking over the Megyn slot at Fox. His career has shot up like a rocket in recent weeks. He is a really sharp young man, Conservative and puts the liberals down with humor and logic. Such a refreshing change from Megyn, the liberal who has said she admires the reporters at the National Barack Channel. If that is what floats her boat, do it.
You mean Julian Assange’s Firefox News? Agent, when you think back on that slab of ice in Lake Placid, NY back in 1980, do you now find yourself hoping the Russians stop the miracle?
Maybe it will utilize local professional licensed and regulated people along with tech that works instead of foreign call centers and a cronyism deal with someones college pal in a foreign nation.
Maybe the jobs will come back to American Business like agents that are licensed, trained, insured and regulated. People that can pluck one maybe two people in the local communities off the unemployment / underemployment line.
Stranger things have happened…
Hi FFA, Happy New Year. 16 more days to go before the long nightmare of Obama is over. Gone are the Clinton’s. Gone is the agenda of Progressives, hopefully for decades. My kids and grand kids actually will have a chance to succeed in the coming years. Business will continue to get better because taxes will be lowered, nasty EPA regulations will disappear.
How can your grand kids have a chance to succeed if we keep killing the planet? They are going to be too busy picking up our garbage and trying to establish a moon colony. You conservatives love to not truly ‘conserve’ what actually matters. At least live up to your character.
Drago! Drago! Drago! “I will break you.”
TrueAmericans,
Don’t fret. Putin proves, elections can be hacked. #lessthan4years
It was probably Snowden…
FFA, the Democrats did it to themselves and have to blame anything and everything on their defeat. Julian Assange is the one to thank. He said Podesta’s emails could be hacked by a child. His password was password. How stupid could he be? They got caught and the wicked witch of the East suffered the consequences.
So, because he was on Sean Ins-Hannity, we are onto cheering for Ivan Drago rather than Rocky Balboa. Ok, got it. Up is down, left is right, cats and dogs living together…
Where do these stairs go?
“They go up, Ray”
On CBS News this Am, the Dems did the same thing to Russia in 2011 when Putin was up for election. Karma, ya know.
The Republicans at work:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/05/republicans-agree-on-obamacare-repeal-replacement-is-tricky-part.html
I recommend reading the whole article, but here are a couple of interesting tidbits:
“The replacement part?
‘We have six months to replace it,’ argued Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., after the Pence huddle.
Although, that’s not settled.
It could be a year. It could be a few years until Republicans require a replacement bill to come into effect – even as the GOP sung the ‘repeal and replace’ mantra for years.”
And
“Any idea what the GOP plan might look like?
‘They didn’t give us any details,’ said Rep. Mark Amodei, R-Nev., as he departed the Pence conclave”
Then there is this morsel:
“Part of the challenge lies in the potential cost of repeal. Estimates vary wildly on how much an ObamaCare repeal would add to the deficit. It hinges on who you talk to and what metric they use. Various figures range from $350 billion to $1 trillion to $9 trillion over a longer period.
But one thing is clear: Republicans already prepped a provision to ignore internal congressional budgetary rules if the repeal is successful and explodes the federal deficit.
Efforts to defang the House’s quasi-official ethics watchdog office scored most of the attention early this week as the GOP advanced a “rules” package to govern the body during this Congress. But Republicans tucked a provision into the plan which bars the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) from counting a dramatic spike in deficit spending spurred by an ObamaCare repeal. Language in the resolution bars the CBO from tallying the cost of any ObamaCare repeal bill that bloats deficit spending by more than $5 billion over the next decade and $20 billion over the next four decades.”
I guess candidate Trump lied about repealing the PPACA on day one and replacing it on day two.
Of course he lied, Ron. He mutters over 70% lies to the public.
Republicans, they love the power but that governing part is pretty tricky for them. Perhaps we can start calling it tweet-cky.
A President lying… HMMM. Some precedent oBama set.
So, we are going with the old, “someone else did it first, so it is OK”?
Unfortunately Ron, seems to be what is happening.
Sad but true….
Long time ago a hand shake meant something.
Long time ago, the nation was shocked that Nixon lied to us. Now, politicians are expected to lie.
Sad.
I thought President Trump was going to be different, take us back to those days, and make us great again.
He hasn’t even been sworn in yet and the standard has already been lowered for him.
That, to me, is what is sad.
Ron, my first concern was getting rid of the PPACA. Seems to be in motion.
My second concern is jobs. He has already had a positive impact on that and he is not even in office yet (Carrier / Ford / IBM and now Stanley tools). All staying in the US. Hiring Americans.
I see someone roboted my post down on a previous post when I advocated for Agents – Americans – to be in the mix instead of foreign call centers. So, I disagree with whom ever did that as they favor foreign labor as opposed to AMERICANS at work.
The wall???? I could care less.
Hopefully, he will come to realize that lies are not the way it should be. hopefully all politicians will realize that some day – hopefully sooner rather then later.
Yes Ron, I continue to hold out for Hope. Truth. Honesty. Peace among our countrymen / women. I’ll worry about the rest of the world when the problems on the Home Land are addressed.
God Bless the USA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANs-jVko8u4
Question of the day: Can you be a one term president before even taking office?
Celtica,
Face it, he’s our President. The real question is, now that Ivan Drago has knocked out both Apollo Creed and Rocky Balboa, who does he fight next?
Drago! Drago! Drago!
Captain, he may be the next President, but is Trump the next messiah too? Remember that gem of the Right?
Of course he’s the next messiah. He’s the closest thing to Supply Side Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc-LJ_3VbUA