Hooray! Common sense and business experience prevails over NOTHING learned by a Community (Dis-)Organizer! MAGA, one EO or bill at a time. Oh, yeah; I’m still not getting tired of winning.
The $47k number is what most are against. The number needs to be update. Problem is that businesses need to be able to adjust, and doubling the number doesn’t allow businesses to adjust. It is not fair to work an Exempt employee making $28,000 all kinds of hours. $35k is workable. Obama liked playing hero but he was playing with other peoples’ money (taxpayers). A smarter person would have raised it twice in 8 years, in smaller steps.
That I can agree with. Although I would have taken it one step further and tied it to inflation and/or local cost of living. $35k in San Francisco, Seattle, New York, Miami, and so on is a pittance, but is legitimately good money in Gary, Indiana, Hattiesburg, MS, and other places in the economic dregs.
Nat, you sure are making Dougie mad today along with his merry band of down voters. Great to have a great American President dismantling the Oblama Administration one regulation at a time. With every one gotten rid of, the economy is sure to improve and businesses starts flourishing again.
MAGA, red states first, blue states later – when they eventually realize Dem policies aren’t working, and are largely hurting GDP growth and fiscal solvency.
The Earth is not the same thing as a person. Poor analogy. Fail. The trend of meager, at best, GDP growth puts the US in a deeper hole, given the NATIONAL DEBT DOUBLED under ‘Oblamer’.
Quick; name the PROPER temperature for the Earth. Ready, steady, … GO!
July 27, 2017 at 11:06 am
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N&B – Your link shows the PER CAPITA GDP of CA is higher than TX ($68,045.52 vs $60,399.54). Wouldn’t it be fair to say that CA is actually doing better than TX since the per capita GDP is higher in CA?
LOL. Like Trump, Yogi will be asking for an extra scoop of crow.
Remember, folks: by and large, Blue states pay more into the federal government than they receive, and red states receive more from the federal government than they pay. Red states are welfare states.
Blue states, where folks earn significantly more and pay significantly more in taxes make America great currently, including paying for the military that they hold so near and dear, which in turn feeds the local economies in so many red states where the majority of military bases are found.
Blue states are controlled by the progressives who create higher taxes and give away programs to keep the poor on the plantation. Blue states are either financially bankrupt or heading in that direction.
Connecticut is the most recent example of a state on the verge of bankruptcy due to their Progressive ways of over spending and high taxation. They just don’t get why their system is failing. Stupidity reigns in the minds of Progressives.
July 27, 2017 at 2:28 pm
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No, the absolute number is arbitrarily based on population count, whereas the TREND is the key stat to measure progress / success and short term future performance.
Hate to disappoint you Rosenblatt, but the cost of living is far higher in California than in Texas so they are falling further behind. California is the land of fruits and nuts by the way.
Both of your comments are wrong. Keep posting for our amusement.
July 31, 2017 at 4:59 pm
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So its not a fair point to make that California’s cost of living is way higher than Texas?
I was agreeing with Agent’s main point, you realize?
July 31, 2017 at 6:30 pm
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It’s not a fair point because it isn’t very relevant. The trend is more important and relevant to their impending collapse. Magnitude is only important if it reaches a level that actually pushes the state to bankruptcy. Agent didn’t see the trend as more critical to the discussion, but the relative sizes may be useful to compare in the near future.
July 27, 2017 at 1:46 pm
Lou says:
Hot debate. What do you think?
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The government should stay out of these completely. If an employee doesn’t like the way he is paid, he can leave his job or go to another one. Every employer has the right to set pay as he see’s fit. It’s his money and business. Every employee has the right to leave.
One needs to focus on what Trump supports depends on what benefits Trump’s image and his business interests. Trump does not want to have to pay his own middle management employees overtime under the new law. Therefore, he wants to abolish the law. Trump has demonstrated that he cares very little for the American worker. If it were up to Trump, everyone one would be at minimum wage.
what the hell? Is this comment in direct refutation for my previous one in another thread?
I take back my comment that you have never said anything bad about Trump.
This is exactly why Trump being in violation of the emoluments clause is so troubling. He is structuring policy decisions on what will or won’t affect HIS bottom line directly.
Really Bob? You are sounding like a liberal from Washington State dealing with the $15 minimum wage and killing business there. How do you like that new income tax Seattle is doing to their citizens?
By the way, I think Trump is doing a lot for American jobs. High tech jobs like FoxConn is going to provide in Wisconsin in the thousands. I know you don’t stay up with the news, but it is all good on the jobs front.
FoxConn currently pays workers a slave wage in China and forces them to work extremely long hours. Their ultimate goal is a complete automation of their workforce.
The only thing WI workers at a future presumptive plant will do is work and maintain the lines. Far, FAR from “high-tech.” Once they can get robots to maintain the robots, then those workers will be redundant, as well.
EVERY employer in China pays the ‘going wage’…. if you want to call it a slave labor wage for hyperbole, go ahead to try to make it look evil. It is the COMMUNIST Regime that is to blame for the ‘going wage’ level, not FoxConn or the US or any other Capitalist Nation that buys Chinese products.
Regardless, FoxConn is NOW DOING THE RIGHT THING, despite your attempt to live in the past.
Further, you have no clue as to FoxConn’s long term plans and just pulling things out of your a$$ to try to refute a positive change for the US workforce.
So, you are telling me FoxConn will automate entire factories where payroll costs them pennies on the US Dollar, but will voluntarily hire and keep on thousands and thousands of employees in America, where they have to pay at least $15/hr + benefits?
What would be the point? FoxConn isn’t a charity, they wouldn’t willingly pour money down a well for no reason, when they could keep making automated products in China. What this means is avoiding shipping costs and that is pretty much it. Build it in America with a mostly robotic workforce: save money everywhere.
July 27, 2017 at 5:44 pm
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Wait, you’re “Bob” not “bob,” right?
Sorry for the mistake if so. When you kept it to one short paragraph and didn’t respond to yourself multiple times, I should have known better. LOL
When I add more, and now I’m doing it intentionally after you said I do it, it’s to add more.
The action of adding more posts, is a good thing, if it adds context. If your mind tries to label the action of more posts, instead of the content, you’re a fool.
Again, style over substance, Doug. You’re not worth my time, so I don’t know why I bother.
U.S. Companies Post Profit Growth Not Seen in Six Years
Strong earnings come as tax and infrastructure initiatives that were expected to spur economy have been sidetracked amid Washington infighting.
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Are you against the bill entirely, or just the $47,000 number?
If Trump passed a law like this, would you support it or still be against it?
The $47k number is what most are against. The number needs to be update. Problem is that businesses need to be able to adjust, and doubling the number doesn’t allow businesses to adjust. It is not fair to work an Exempt employee making $28,000 all kinds of hours. $35k is workable. Obama liked playing hero but he was playing with other peoples’ money (taxpayers). A smarter person would have raised it twice in 8 years, in smaller steps.
Is there a politician who doesn’t do that.
That I can agree with. Although I would have taken it one step further and tied it to inflation and/or local cost of living. $35k in San Francisco, Seattle, New York, Miami, and so on is a pittance, but is legitimately good money in Gary, Indiana, Hattiesburg, MS, and other places in the economic dregs.
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Let me just “put this latest econ-news” here too:
http://muninetguide.com/2016-state-gdp-growth/
You take a single 3 month period of GSP growth and jump to the conclusion that there is a long term trend?
Yes, the trend is your friend. And he who failed to earn more than a 3% growth over any YEAR of his 8 year term is a failure… over an 8 year period.
You take a 10 year warming period, arbitrarily selected, and jump to the conclusion that the Earth is warming due to human influences?
The consequences of someone being wrong about GSP growth trends don’t quite equate to someone being wrong about and global warming.
“Doctor, his temperature spiked to 102F over the last 10 minutes”
“Let’s wait it out Nurse, we can’t say for sure that there is a trend”
The Earth is not the same thing as a person. Poor analogy. Fail. The trend of meager, at best, GDP growth puts the US in a deeper hole, given the NATIONAL DEBT DOUBLED under ‘Oblamer’.
Quick; name the PROPER temperature for the Earth. Ready, steady, … GO!
N&B – Your link shows the PER CAPITA GDP of CA is higher than TX ($68,045.52 vs $60,399.54). Wouldn’t it be fair to say that CA is actually doing better than TX since the per capita GDP is higher in CA?
LOL. Like Trump, Yogi will be asking for an extra scoop of crow.
Remember, folks: by and large, Blue states pay more into the federal government than they receive, and red states receive more from the federal government than they pay. Red states are welfare states.
Blue states, where folks earn significantly more and pay significantly more in taxes make America great currently, including paying for the military that they hold so near and dear, which in turn feeds the local economies in so many red states where the majority of military bases are found.
Blue states are controlled by the progressives who create higher taxes and give away programs to keep the poor on the plantation. Blue states are either financially bankrupt or heading in that direction.
Connecticut is the most recent example of a state on the verge of bankruptcy due to their Progressive ways of over spending and high taxation. They just don’t get why their system is failing. Stupidity reigns in the minds of Progressives.
No, the absolute number is arbitrarily based on population count, whereas the TREND is the key stat to measure progress / success and short term future performance.
… and the RELATIVE differences you listed are insignificant.
… and Dougie is clueless.
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That first part of your comment is a fair point to make.
The second one is an insight into your bigoted mind. Congrats, keep tipping your hand.
Both of your comments are wrong. Keep posting for our amusement.
So its not a fair point to make that California’s cost of living is way higher than Texas?
I was agreeing with Agent’s main point, you realize?
It’s not a fair point because it isn’t very relevant. The trend is more important and relevant to their impending collapse. Magnitude is only important if it reaches a level that actually pushes the state to bankruptcy. Agent didn’t see the trend as more critical to the discussion, but the relative sizes may be useful to compare in the near future.
The government should stay out of these completely. If an employee doesn’t like the way he is paid, he can leave his job or go to another one. Every employer has the right to set pay as he see’s fit. It’s his money and business. Every employee has the right to leave.
One needs to focus on what Trump supports depends on what benefits Trump’s image and his business interests. Trump does not want to have to pay his own middle management employees overtime under the new law. Therefore, he wants to abolish the law. Trump has demonstrated that he cares very little for the American worker. If it were up to Trump, everyone one would be at minimum wage.
what the hell? Is this comment in direct refutation for my previous one in another thread?
I take back my comment that you have never said anything bad about Trump.
This is exactly why Trump being in violation of the emoluments clause is so troubling. He is structuring policy decisions on what will or won’t affect HIS bottom line directly.
Really Bob? You are sounding like a liberal from Washington State dealing with the $15 minimum wage and killing business there. How do you like that new income tax Seattle is doing to their citizens?
By the way, I think Trump is doing a lot for American jobs. High tech jobs like FoxConn is going to provide in Wisconsin in the thousands. I know you don’t stay up with the news, but it is all good on the jobs front.
FoxConn currently pays workers a slave wage in China and forces them to work extremely long hours. Their ultimate goal is a complete automation of their workforce.
The only thing WI workers at a future presumptive plant will do is work and maintain the lines. Far, FAR from “high-tech.” Once they can get robots to maintain the robots, then those workers will be redundant, as well.
EVERY employer in China pays the ‘going wage’…. if you want to call it a slave labor wage for hyperbole, go ahead to try to make it look evil. It is the COMMUNIST Regime that is to blame for the ‘going wage’ level, not FoxConn or the US or any other Capitalist Nation that buys Chinese products.
Regardless, FoxConn is NOW DOING THE RIGHT THING, despite your attempt to live in the past.
Got anything else meaningless to say?
Further, you have no clue as to FoxConn’s long term plans and just pulling things out of your a$$ to try to refute a positive change for the US workforce.
http://fortune.com/2016/12/31/foxconn-iphone-automation-goal/
So, you are telling me FoxConn will automate entire factories where payroll costs them pennies on the US Dollar, but will voluntarily hire and keep on thousands and thousands of employees in America, where they have to pay at least $15/hr + benefits?
What would be the point? FoxConn isn’t a charity, they wouldn’t willingly pour money down a well for no reason, when they could keep making automated products in China. What this means is avoiding shipping costs and that is pretty much it. Build it in America with a mostly robotic workforce: save money everywhere.
Wait, you’re “Bob” not “bob,” right?
Sorry for the mistake if so. When you kept it to one short paragraph and didn’t respond to yourself multiple times, I should have known better. LOL
I’m pretty sure this “Bob” is not the other “bob” we’re used to reading on this site
I came to the realization quick once he posted something completely reasonable, and didn’t go on to post four or five more times in a row.
When I add more, and now I’m doing it intentionally after you said I do it, it’s to add more.
The action of adding more posts, is a good thing, if it adds context. If your mind tries to label the action of more posts, instead of the content, you’re a fool.
Again, style over substance, Doug. You’re not worth my time, so I don’t know why I bother.
Excellent restraint only posting twice in a row. :)
I am not worth your time, so I would appreciate if you don’t clog up threads with 4 or 5 diatribes in a row.
That is correct. DF often makes such mistakes, especially regarding his socialist stance / agenda.
I didn’t make this post, the me you think did rather.
Oh nos! for the Socialists who nearly ran the US into the ground…
from WSJ, which is not your typical right wing media outlet…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-washington-stalls-company-profits-keep-trucking-1501423201
excerpt:
U.S. Companies Post Profit Growth Not Seen in Six Years
Strong earnings come as tax and infrastructure initiatives that were expected to spur economy have been sidetracked amid Washington infighting.
In other words, no thanks to President Trump for these profits since none of his policies have gone into effect yet.
Thank you President Obama!
Yes, thank you kindly, President Obama! i45 continues to ride your coattails.
Right in the first couple of sentences: “Aided by years of cost cutting, a weak dollar, and stronger consumer spending.”
Thanks Trump for weakening the dollar?
#MAGA!