so, first of all, how fast was that wheelchair going? if the doors were closed, how does one crash through and wind up being on the floor below. last i heard, there is no way that anyone could have made it through a closed door. much less, how did the other 2 folks get hurt looking through a closed door?
I read this article in the local newspaper yesterday, and it said she hit the doors with her wheelchair, forcing the doors open. Maybe she thought once the doors opened the elevator was there. It was 3:30 am at a casino…maybe she drank a little too much??
Well, if she pulls thru she will have enough$$ to return to the tables many times although she made appear in a body cast for the first few times. Hmmmm 3:30a guess she “forgot” to use her brakes due to too many sloe gin fizzes!
why not? afterall it was motorized right? i have seen folks get tickets for drinking and driving a snowmobile and a lawnmower. what makes this any different? i have seen motorized ones on the road.
1. Ins. Journal should send all proposed articles to Wudchuck for publication because he comments on all the exotic stories that prompt comment – meaning they have the most interest.
2. I still think the most interesting articles and the most useful would be to have a follow-up on these stories for disclosure on the insurance company that was on the loss and the final disposition.
That would allow us to find out which companies are the best at fighting these things
3. It would save a lot of scrolling time because there are only 2-3 of these interesting and humorous stories a week.
Person in a motorized wheelchair falls down elevator shaft in a casino at 3 am??? Drunk, sober, stupid. I don’t care what the circumstances are!!! This is comedy at its best!
I’m still wondering how she got the doors open. Every elevator door I’ve ever seen opens to the side – meaning you have to grab hold of an edge and push to the right or left, pushing forward does nothing. The only thing I can think is that the elevator malfuntioned and started moving before the doors closed and she was able to activate the safety bar to reopen the door. But that doesn’t make sense either because that’s usually a physical interlock.
And how the heck to you get injured looking down an elevator shaft? Did the door close on them?
I almost wish I stayed up late enough to watch Leno or Letterman – I bet they’d give this one good treatment if they saw it.
Passenger elevator doors are typically hung from rollers at the top of the door. The bottom of the doors are held in place by tabs sticking down into a groove. A motorized scooter moving at speed could develop enough kinetic engergy to bend the tabs, allowing the bottom of the doors to swing into the hoistway if the elevator is not there.
I’d have to see the workup on it to really grasp how it happened. I realize these doors aren’t hung with titanium, but neither are they hung with ultra-soft metals either. I’m guessing usually an aliminum alloy or a light steel mixture. I’m just trying to picture the kind of mass and speed that would need to be involved to make this happen, and I can’t see it.
Okay, I still don’t know as much as I would like to, but today is slow enough I was able to look this one up.
It appears she was in a rented scooter, and from the looks of it one of the heavier models that does get some speed going. (It had a “Rent Me” sticker on the front, so I’m guessing on the rental part). Not knowing how large the woman is I’m guessing there was mass enough to slam the doors off their rails just in the scooter alone if she was going full-tilt.
Apparently the employees had the doors close on their ankles while trying to assist and that’s how they became injured.
so the foot in the elevator stopped the doors, but the elevator left?! so the space that was there, how come the elevator leave w/the door open? if the foot was there makes me think that this was more than just a speeding wheelchair.
i saw the pictures… wow! it must have been a sight to see… now the question is, who was at fault? those trying to hold up the elevator, the wheelchair person or whom?
Find your friggin’ Caps Lock key. It’s on the left side of your keyboard, next to the A. Now, turn it off, and type in proper casing like a literate human being.
YOU PPL ARE SO CRUEL U DONT KNW THE CIRCUMSTANCES…FIRST OF ALL SHE WAS ALREADY HANDICAP B4 THIS INCIDENT AND WHO IN THE HELL SAID PPL N WHEELCHAIRS ARENT HUMAN….YOU PPL DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO SAY OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS AND FOR THE RECORD SHE IS OK,YES SHE WILL PULL THRU AND I HOPE U ALL BURN IN HELL FOR BEING SO ****ING CRUEL….TRUST AND BLIEVE WHEN SHE GETS HOME SHE WILL SEE THIS **** BECAUSE SHE IS COMING HOME….SHE ISNT DEAD AND WHAT TYPE OF PERSON IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD PLAN TO FALL DOWN AN ELEVATOR SHAFT LIKE U CNT DIE FROM THAT ****….WHAT IF SHE WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER OR YOUR MOTHER AT THAT SHES ****ING 53 YRS OF AGE
so, first of all, how fast was that wheelchair going? if the doors were closed, how does one crash through and wind up being on the floor below. last i heard, there is no way that anyone could have made it through a closed door. much less, how did the other 2 folks get hurt looking through a closed door?
sounds fishy!
I read this article in the local newspaper yesterday, and it said she hit the doors with her wheelchair, forcing the doors open. Maybe she thought once the doors opened the elevator was there. It was 3:30 am at a casino…maybe she drank a little too much??
Well, if she pulls thru she will have enough$$ to return to the tables many times although she made appear in a body cast for the first few times. Hmmmm 3:30a guess she “forgot” to use her brakes due to too many sloe gin fizzes!
At 3 am shouldn’t she be arrested for drinking and driving?
Arrested for drinking and driving? Now THAT’S FUNNY!!!!!!
why not? afterall it was motorized right? i have seen folks get tickets for drinking and driving a snowmobile and a lawnmower. what makes this any different? i have seen motorized ones on the road.
1. Ins. Journal should send all proposed articles to Wudchuck for publication because he comments on all the exotic stories that prompt comment – meaning they have the most interest.
2. I still think the most interesting articles and the most useful would be to have a follow-up on these stories for disclosure on the insurance company that was on the loss and the final disposition.
That would allow us to find out which companies are the best at fighting these things
3. It would save a lot of scrolling time because there are only 2-3 of these interesting and humorous stories a week.
What “normal” handicapped person in a wheel chair would be in a casino at 3:30am in the first place?
Eli apparently you haven’t been to a casino in a while. Good for you.
I’d be interested to hear the outcome on this one. Sounds like a set up to me, unless she really was drunk.
Person in a motorized wheelchair falls down elevator shaft in a casino at 3 am??? Drunk, sober, stupid. I don’t care what the circumstances are!!! This is comedy at its best!
I’m still wondering how she got the doors open. Every elevator door I’ve ever seen opens to the side – meaning you have to grab hold of an edge and push to the right or left, pushing forward does nothing. The only thing I can think is that the elevator malfuntioned and started moving before the doors closed and she was able to activate the safety bar to reopen the door. But that doesn’t make sense either because that’s usually a physical interlock.
And how the heck to you get injured looking down an elevator shaft? Did the door close on them?
I almost wish I stayed up late enough to watch Leno or Letterman – I bet they’d give this one good treatment if they saw it.
Passenger elevator doors are typically hung from rollers at the top of the door. The bottom of the doors are held in place by tabs sticking down into a groove. A motorized scooter moving at speed could develop enough kinetic engergy to bend the tabs, allowing the bottom of the doors to swing into the hoistway if the elevator is not there.
I’d have to see the workup on it to really grasp how it happened. I realize these doors aren’t hung with titanium, but neither are they hung with ultra-soft metals either. I’m guessing usually an aliminum alloy or a light steel mixture. I’m just trying to picture the kind of mass and speed that would need to be involved to make this happen, and I can’t see it.
Pictures would really help on this one.
Okay, I still don’t know as much as I would like to, but today is slow enough I was able to look this one up.
It appears she was in a rented scooter, and from the looks of it one of the heavier models that does get some speed going. (It had a “Rent Me” sticker on the front, so I’m guessing on the rental part). Not knowing how large the woman is I’m guessing there was mass enough to slam the doors off their rails just in the scooter alone if she was going full-tilt.
Apparently the employees had the doors close on their ankles while trying to assist and that’s how they became injured.
lastbat – you did not say where you found the picture….. It would be interesting
– From a previous experience, I found:
Kinetic Energy E K = ½ (Lbs) (ft/sec2 )
Scooter 121#
Person 220#
Weight 341 #
MPH 4.25 top speed
5,280 ft in a mile x 4.25 mph = 22,440 feet per hour
22,440 fph : 60 = 374 feet per minute
374 fpm : 60 = 6.234 feet per second
Using the above formula we find
½ (341) (6.234 x 6.234)
(341) (38.86)
½ 13,252
6,626 ft/lbs kinetic energy
(Elevator doors are not designed to withstand that kind of force)
so the foot in the elevator stopped the doors, but the elevator left?! so the space that was there, how come the elevator leave w/the door open? if the foot was there makes me think that this was more than just a speeding wheelchair.
http://www.nbc10.com/slideshow/news/16542576/detail.html
SO THE FASTER SHE WAS GOING—THE MORE SHE COLLECTS FROM THE CASINO?
i saw the pictures… wow! it must have been a sight to see… now the question is, who was at fault? those trying to hold up the elevator, the wheelchair person or whom?
Find your friggin’ Caps Lock key. It’s on the left side of your keyboard, next to the A. Now, turn it off, and type in proper casing like a literate human being.
ohhhhh ratemaker—-grade my paper! And by the way—where in the dictionary is “friggin”?
Larry, Ratemaker was asking you to stop yelling. That’s what all-caps posting is – yelling. Ratemaker wasn’t commenting on anything else.
YOU PPL ARE SO CRUEL U DONT KNW THE CIRCUMSTANCES…FIRST OF ALL SHE WAS ALREADY HANDICAP B4 THIS INCIDENT AND WHO IN THE HELL SAID PPL N WHEELCHAIRS ARENT HUMAN….YOU PPL DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO SAY OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS AND FOR THE RECORD SHE IS OK,YES SHE WILL PULL THRU AND I HOPE U ALL BURN IN HELL FOR BEING SO ****ING CRUEL….TRUST AND BLIEVE WHEN SHE GETS HOME SHE WILL SEE THIS **** BECAUSE SHE IS COMING HOME….SHE ISNT DEAD AND WHAT TYPE OF PERSON IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD PLAN TO FALL DOWN AN ELEVATOR SHAFT LIKE U CNT DIE FROM THAT ****….WHAT IF SHE WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER OR YOUR MOTHER AT THAT SHES ****ING 53 YRS OF AGE