Writing these types of venues can be extremely difficult. In addition to the A&B exposure, you have a significant slip & fall and liquor exposure as well.
The rate you would need to get for this type of risk would have to be huge.
I’m pretty sure that if I was sitting in a seat at a football game, minding my own business, watching the game & someone threw me to the ground, I would have made damn sure that person was leaving the stadium in handcuffs NOT sue the stadium almost a year later. Bogus lawsuits need to be stopped!
Where’s Paul Harvey when you need him? Unfortunately, like most provocative stories in IJ, there’s not enough information to really comment one way or the other. Was the woman really “minding her own business”? Were words exchanged before the melee? Can’t tell from the information given.
This would never happen at a Giants game. This is typical of Jets or Eagles games. She was probably wearing a “threatening” Patriots jersey and some drunk jerk could not leave her alone. When are they going to stop serving alcohol at Jets games?
And yet the Jets were not sued but the Giants were? I’m not a lawyer but I don’t see how the Giants could be a defendent. It was a Jets game. The NJSEA runs the stadium and hires the security. Are the Giants being sued because their name is on the stadium? Does that mean that Citi is a potential defendent if anything happens at a Mets game?
Sounds like she should sue whomever threw to the ground. Of course the team and stadium owners have the money. It doesn’t really matter who is to blame here all that matters is who has the deep pockets to pay her. If I got thrown down to the ground I would sue the person who did it and not the owner of the property I happened to be standing on. What’s wrong with you people who can’t see there is something wrong with this story.
ok, during a regular game, like a baseball game if you get hit by a line driver – you take on these consequences of a game. if you got thrown down and hurt your spine, then the individual that did this should be held responsible. the stadium can’t control a crowd of this nature, even if you notified security. they should have stepped in after the fall and taken that individual into custody and then you could have sued him for the injury. i think that the lawyer is trying to find to many hands to get more and more money, in his pockets and not truly resolving the issue correctly.
I’m prepared to be flamed, but when you pay a premium price to attend a sporting event, there should be an expectation that you will not be beaten up. If they are going to take your ticket money, then the venue has an obligation to provide for a safe environment which is why the suit goes beyond the fan.
Admitedly there is not enough detail here to determine if that happened, but all of you would expect that, wouldn’t you? I would, especially if it were my wife or daughter.
“A family of Patriots fans from New Jersey filed a lawsuit against the bosses of the old Giants Stadium based on a situation during last year’s Patriots-Jets game. The suit alleges that Michelle Munoz, a 43-year-old mother, was sworn at, punched and eventually thrown over a row of seats for holding up a sign that read, “I love Tom Brady.” Her 14-year-old daughter, wearing a Patriots jersey, also was the target of abuse. The family claims security ignored their pleas for help because they are Pats fans.”
Although I question the target of the suit, I agree with Pat’s expectation. I would have the same. More security is needed at Jets games and there may not have been enough.
I guess no one will ever really know. My gut tells me it takes two people to fight. I am just not open minded enough to think this lady was just sitting there minding her own business and had someone pull her out of her seat and throw her multiple rows. I also feel there is a certain difficulty managing large crowds like this and you take some risk upon yourself when you go. I would have taken my wife and daughter and left the game before I allowed it to escalate this much. Of course if I thought I could sue the Giants and their deep pockets, hmmmmm.
Going to a professional football game in NYC is an assumption of risk. Nobody can control the activities of 60,000 “fans” and the small number of beer drinking, foul mouthed, low class, un-disciplined hooligans who can’t control themselves over a stupid game. I agree that the focus needs to be on the individual(s) involved, not the venue. Maybe the solution is to have a special section reserved for the A-holes.
well, to have lifted her and threw her over a few rows deserves to be held accountable for their actions and not the stadium. the stadium will in fact state this typically happens at the stadium the mouthing and verbal abuse, you’d expect that because you are from the opposing team. if hurt from the incident, she needs to have gone after the folks that threw her. security would not have prevented this incident.. it does not matter what price you pay for the ticket either. it could be premium or it could have been cheap seats.
Given the injured lady had a sign that read “I love Tom Brady” and that apparently was the basis for her unwarranted attack, then Tom Brady should pay for her medical bills! $ue him too!
ok, the guy attacks her, and security ignores the situation. How do you get the jerk’s name to sue him? somehow I doubt he identified himself before leaving the stadium, and spouse was probably trying to help injured wife instead of chasing down the big jerk.
This is a classic case of _hit happens. If they can’t find the perp, tough luck. You don’t transfer that negligence to the stadium and the ball club. This woman should be S.O.L. and unable to collect. She assumed the risk and even baited the fans with her Brady poster. I’m not excusing the perps behavior one bit. But, you attend a game in NYC you should know that some of the fans check their small brains and minimal supply of commmon sense at the gate. They revert to being gutteral animals with no self-control.
I agree with Geek. Of course one should expect crude behavior at a Jets game and prepare for it. But, it is ridiculous to expect all ticket holders to attend a football game “at their own risk”. If that is the case, why hire security at all? Security can prevent these situations and often does. The wudchucks out there need to understand that not everyone who seeks recompense via the US Tort system is a welfare case. We do not know what prompted the woman’s injury but the fact that she was assaulted and she chose to bring suit against the stadium operators means something. The facts will come out in court, not here!
Damn right, then Brady should be sent backwards through a corn field with no pants on for making all those stupid Stetson ads and for having a Jonas Brothers haircut like a sissy.
Jets fans….we hate Tom Brady, The Pats and Brett Favre.
Let the Aholes on the A list go through the Ahole to A row & sit in the A seats & when the game is over, flush the Aholes down the Ahole. Good Job Ritchie!
The sad part is I don’t know which of you are joking and which of you are f’ing psychos. I hope none of you are insurance brokers or retailers. Because if you are, I don’t want to hear it about suits. Anytime you screw up, you beg the company to make an exception to the rules so it doesn’t affect your E&O insurance. And when that doesn’t work, you sue. Insurance people sue all the time. Truely pathetic.
What I wonder about is how this escaped being on TV! First, if there was a big to-do, security would certainly have done something about it. There is no proof that security was unaware or uncaring. I doubt they would have ignored a woman being throw over a couple of rows. Second, if it was me, I would have not gone home from that stadium without at least having the police investigate and take my name and call an ambulance so my injuries could be looked at and if need be, documented. that way I would have a criminal complaint on file and also preserve my ability to pursue legal action, in case criminal charges were dropped. third, I would sue the security company that allegedly declined to do anything. I’d bet that this woman did not do any of these things until they went home and talked about it and then decided to call an attorney. Only then did the ball get rolling to cash in. I doubt that this was the big fight that it is being made out to be. things like this would go viral, soon as they happen…this is the first time I heard of it and I say, you got what you paid for when you went to the stadium. I see it all the time and I avoid these folks like the plague; looking for trouble, found it and now want to make something of it? You already made something of it and didn’t like that outcome…but a nuisance lawsuit is usually a winner…better to settle than fight, right?
Of course the venue has a responsibility to provide a safe environment. What the hell is wrong with you people??? Sue the guy that beat her up only? I know that if any of you got beat down somewhere, you would be the first to be getting a lawyer. Like Psycho said, insurance people are the first to sue.
first of all, i never mentioned anything about a welfare system. i think we find ourselves relying too much on the other guys money and not our own responsibility. in this case, it’s the matter of security to have found this problem. i hope that she has proof that it did happen at the stadium and not slipped at home. i just don’t see how a rowdy folks would have truly picked this gal up and threw her a couple of rows. if so, would there not have been other folks that would have broken her fall? sometime things just don’t add up. i can understand the fans getting rowdy and giving her a hard time because she loves Brady.
One thing you people are missing. “…holding up a sign.” Holding up a sign showing support for the opposition team in a crowded stadium is simply an incendiary, stupid thing to do. Does it justify being thrown over a couple rows of seats? Absolutely not, but add the fact that you’re sitting among home fans who may have had a couple beers, blocking their view of the game, and likely refusing to put the sign down, and the outcome is almost a given. Go to Heinz Field and hold up a Ravens sign, and you’d be lucky to get out alive.
Come down from your ivory tower psychos-companies make more mistakes than do agents who actually speak to insureds every day. Then they hide behind the agent who has to resolve the issue. I was at the Giant game yesterday with kids and not one instance of violence. Jets fans need to grow up!! How about Tuck’s new fireman helmet – hah – take that fireman ed! New Captain in town!!!
Writing these types of venues can be extremely difficult. In addition to the A&B exposure, you have a significant slip & fall and liquor exposure as well.
The rate you would need to get for this type of risk would have to be huge.
I’m pretty sure that if I was sitting in a seat at a football game, minding my own business, watching the game & someone threw me to the ground, I would have made damn sure that person was leaving the stadium in handcuffs NOT sue the stadium almost a year later. Bogus lawsuits need to be stopped!
How is this a bogus lawsuits? You get injured on someone else’s premises, that’s what happens. What is wrong with you people on this site????
Where’s Paul Harvey when you need him? Unfortunately, like most provocative stories in IJ, there’s not enough information to really comment one way or the other. Was the woman really “minding her own business”? Were words exchanged before the melee? Can’t tell from the information given.
This would never happen at a Giants game. This is typical of Jets or Eagles games. She was probably wearing a “threatening” Patriots jersey and some drunk jerk could not leave her alone. When are they going to stop serving alcohol at Jets games?
And yet the Jets were not sued but the Giants were? I’m not a lawyer but I don’t see how the Giants could be a defendent. It was a Jets game. The NJSEA runs the stadium and hires the security. Are the Giants being sued because their name is on the stadium? Does that mean that Citi is a potential defendent if anything happens at a Mets game?
Sounds like she should sue whomever threw to the ground. Of course the team and stadium owners have the money. It doesn’t really matter who is to blame here all that matters is who has the deep pockets to pay her. If I got thrown down to the ground I would sue the person who did it and not the owner of the property I happened to be standing on. What’s wrong with you people who can’t see there is something wrong with this story.
ok, during a regular game, like a baseball game if you get hit by a line driver – you take on these consequences of a game. if you got thrown down and hurt your spine, then the individual that did this should be held responsible. the stadium can’t control a crowd of this nature, even if you notified security. they should have stepped in after the fall and taken that individual into custody and then you could have sued him for the injury. i think that the lawyer is trying to find to many hands to get more and more money, in his pockets and not truly resolving the issue correctly.
Really? Really?!??! C’mon people!
I’m prepared to be flamed, but when you pay a premium price to attend a sporting event, there should be an expectation that you will not be beaten up. If they are going to take your ticket money, then the venue has an obligation to provide for a safe environment which is why the suit goes beyond the fan.
Admitedly there is not enough detail here to determine if that happened, but all of you would expect that, wouldn’t you? I would, especially if it were my wife or daughter.
Torch away . . .
I agree with Pat!
By: Jerry Spar on WEEI.com
“A family of Patriots fans from New Jersey filed a lawsuit against the bosses of the old Giants Stadium based on a situation during last year’s Patriots-Jets game. The suit alleges that Michelle Munoz, a 43-year-old mother, was sworn at, punched and eventually thrown over a row of seats for holding up a sign that read, “I love Tom Brady.” Her 14-year-old daughter, wearing a Patriots jersey, also was the target of abuse. The family claims security ignored their pleas for help because they are Pats fans.”
Although I question the target of the suit, I agree with Pat’s expectation. I would have the same. More security is needed at Jets games and there may not have been enough.
I guess no one will ever really know. My gut tells me it takes two people to fight. I am just not open minded enough to think this lady was just sitting there minding her own business and had someone pull her out of her seat and throw her multiple rows. I also feel there is a certain difficulty managing large crowds like this and you take some risk upon yourself when you go. I would have taken my wife and daughter and left the game before I allowed it to escalate this much. Of course if I thought I could sue the Giants and their deep pockets, hmmmmm.
They’re Jets fans, what do you expect?
Going to a professional football game in NYC is an assumption of risk. Nobody can control the activities of 60,000 “fans” and the small number of beer drinking, foul mouthed, low class, un-disciplined hooligans who can’t control themselves over a stupid game. I agree that the focus needs to be on the individual(s) involved, not the venue. Maybe the solution is to have a special section reserved for the A-holes.
well, to have lifted her and threw her over a few rows deserves to be held accountable for their actions and not the stadium. the stadium will in fact state this typically happens at the stadium the mouthing and verbal abuse, you’d expect that because you are from the opposing team. if hurt from the incident, she needs to have gone after the folks that threw her. security would not have prevented this incident.. it does not matter what price you pay for the ticket either. it could be premium or it could have been cheap seats.
Given the injured lady had a sign that read “I love Tom Brady” and that apparently was the basis for her unwarranted attack, then Tom Brady should pay for her medical bills! $ue him too!
ok, the guy attacks her, and security ignores the situation. How do you get the jerk’s name to sue him? somehow I doubt he identified himself before leaving the stadium, and spouse was probably trying to help injured wife instead of chasing down the big jerk.
This is a classic case of _hit happens. If they can’t find the perp, tough luck. You don’t transfer that negligence to the stadium and the ball club. This woman should be S.O.L. and unable to collect. She assumed the risk and even baited the fans with her Brady poster. I’m not excusing the perps behavior one bit. But, you attend a game in NYC you should know that some of the fans check their small brains and minimal supply of commmon sense at the gate. They revert to being gutteral animals with no self-control.
I agree with Geek. Of course one should expect crude behavior at a Jets game and prepare for it. But, it is ridiculous to expect all ticket holders to attend a football game “at their own risk”. If that is the case, why hire security at all? Security can prevent these situations and often does. The wudchucks out there need to understand that not everyone who seeks recompense via the US Tort system is a welfare case. We do not know what prompted the woman’s injury but the fact that she was assaulted and she chose to bring suit against the stadium operators means something. The facts will come out in court, not here!
J-E-T-S
JETS JETS JETS
LMAO….woman gets injured during a Jets game and the Giants get sued. Finally some justice for Gang Green
Damn right, then Brady should be sent backwards through a corn field with no pants on for making all those stupid Stetson ads and for having a Jonas Brothers haircut like a sissy.
Jets fans….we hate Tom Brady, The Pats and Brett Favre.
Be honest Joker, Jets Fans hate everybody
Let the Aholes on the A list go through the Ahole to A row & sit in the A seats & when the game is over, flush the Aholes down the Ahole. Good Job Ritchie!
The sad part is I don’t know which of you are joking and which of you are f’ing psychos. I hope none of you are insurance brokers or retailers. Because if you are, I don’t want to hear it about suits. Anytime you screw up, you beg the company to make an exception to the rules so it doesn’t affect your E&O insurance. And when that doesn’t work, you sue. Insurance people sue all the time. Truely pathetic.
We are psychos, of course. And you won’t hear about suits…..we don’t make mistakes. BWHAHAHAHA
What I wonder about is how this escaped being on TV! First, if there was a big to-do, security would certainly have done something about it. There is no proof that security was unaware or uncaring. I doubt they would have ignored a woman being throw over a couple of rows. Second, if it was me, I would have not gone home from that stadium without at least having the police investigate and take my name and call an ambulance so my injuries could be looked at and if need be, documented. that way I would have a criminal complaint on file and also preserve my ability to pursue legal action, in case criminal charges were dropped. third, I would sue the security company that allegedly declined to do anything. I’d bet that this woman did not do any of these things until they went home and talked about it and then decided to call an attorney. Only then did the ball get rolling to cash in. I doubt that this was the big fight that it is being made out to be. things like this would go viral, soon as they happen…this is the first time I heard of it and I say, you got what you paid for when you went to the stadium. I see it all the time and I avoid these folks like the plague; looking for trouble, found it and now want to make something of it? You already made something of it and didn’t like that outcome…but a nuisance lawsuit is usually a winner…better to settle than fight, right?
Hey Joker, are you the one that beat up this lady?
Of course the venue has a responsibility to provide a safe environment. What the hell is wrong with you people??? Sue the guy that beat her up only? I know that if any of you got beat down somewhere, you would be the first to be getting a lawyer. Like Psycho said, insurance people are the first to sue.
first of all, i never mentioned anything about a welfare system. i think we find ourselves relying too much on the other guys money and not our own responsibility. in this case, it’s the matter of security to have found this problem. i hope that she has proof that it did happen at the stadium and not slipped at home. i just don’t see how a rowdy folks would have truly picked this gal up and threw her a couple of rows. if so, would there not have been other folks that would have broken her fall? sometime things just don’t add up. i can understand the fans getting rowdy and giving her a hard time because she loves Brady.
One thing you people are missing. “…holding up a sign.” Holding up a sign showing support for the opposition team in a crowded stadium is simply an incendiary, stupid thing to do. Does it justify being thrown over a couple rows of seats? Absolutely not, but add the fact that you’re sitting among home fans who may have had a couple beers, blocking their view of the game, and likely refusing to put the sign down, and the outcome is almost a given. Go to Heinz Field and hold up a Ravens sign, and you’d be lucky to get out alive.
A couple of years ago I got tickets on the 40 yard line, first row for a game in Giants Stadium. Went there with my wife
Come down from your ivory tower psychos-companies make more mistakes than do agents who actually speak to insureds every day. Then they hide behind the agent who has to resolve the issue. I was at the Giant game yesterday with kids and not one instance of violence. Jets fans need to grow up!! How about Tuck’s new fireman helmet – hah – take that fireman ed! New Captain in town!!!
Ritchie: Some stadiums due, in fact, have special sections set-up for the derelicts and riff-raff. In Cleveland, it is called the Dawg Pound.