Some of our best clients were illegal Mexicans in MA. That was before MA changed the insurance regulations and will not allow renewal of any MA auto policy if any listed operator has an out of state or out of country license. Every year in MA a company must run the license info through the MA RMV database to determine surcharge points or discounts that are issued against a MA license. By having an out of state or out of country license, those folks don’t end up in the RMV database because their license is not issued in MA. The Mexican clients always paid on time, drove carefully to avoid accidents (and to not draw attention to themselves). At least they bought insurance and the vehicle could always be tracked back to them. Now, a legal resident will just take money, insure a car in their name and hands the keys over to the illegals who then drive around on discounted rates!
“I need a driver’s license to take Alicy to the doctor, to school and to her physical therapy. However, I cannot get one because of my immigration status,”
If illegals really need a driver’s license, why are we making these concessions for them to obtain a license when they could get a valid driver’s license by becoming legal citizens?
What happens when a police officer determines the person is an illegal (be it from a routine traffic stop or an accident)? Are they supposed to report them? Deport them? Let them continue driving even though they’re not here legally? What happens if the illegal kills someone and they don’t have sufficient insurance to pay the medical bills? If you sue them, will they be forced to pay up, or they can’t enter a legally binding contract because they’re not legally in this country?
Just seems like we shouldn’t allow people to legally drive cars if they aren’t legally supposed to be in this country in the first place
Nan, your reasoning is baseless. Just HOW do you know the ILLEGAL Mexicans drove carefully to avoid accidents? My car just happens to have been HIT by an ILLEGAL, who WASN’T driving carefully, and drew PLENTY of attention to herself. The woman couldn’t even speak ENGLISH, let alone be able to read a traffic sign. Just HOW is a driver’s license going to fix this problem? My stance is this to all ILLEGALS out there: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK INTO MINE, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY!! LEARN MY LANGUAGE, FIRST AND FOREMOST. True AMERICANS are TIRED of having to pay for ILLEGALS.
I wish someone had told me that “illegal” does not really mean outside the law as it does in every other countries; like a fool I got all my papers and even my citizenship. Sorry I did not I could have sneaked in and get everything free instead of working my arse off.
In my opinion, even if said ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are the most moral, honest and safest drivers in the world (which I am sure many of them are), I still do not think they have the right to a drivers license. I am sorry if this sounds harsh but driving is a privilege and not a right. Get legal and I will do everything I can to help get these people a license……until then, I just cannot support this. We need to motivate people to come to the US legally and not provide more incentive to sneak in.
It absolutely amazes me that there is a group fighting for ILLEGAL…yes, ILLEGAL immigrants to get privileges in this country. This State and country is heading for disaster because of all these liberals. If you are ILLEGAL then you have no rights…PERIOD. Sick of all this PC BS.
Since the article incorrectly listed the impacted people as “illegal immigrant”, please advise of the proper term we should use to classify the people impacted by this decision.
If not “illegal immigrant” – what’s the right term??
Gary Jonikke..no one is slurring your family. You all apparently came here through the correct channels and for that, I thank you and WELCOME you to my beautiful America (which is now yours, too). We are referring to the people who come here ILLEGALLY–THESE are the people and their families that we are disgusted with.
If the definition of Immigrant is alien with legal presence, then the term Illegal Immigrant obviously refers to aliens WITHOUT legal presence. It makes perfect sense to me and in no way slurs your family. Chill out, Gary.
I prefer the term Foreign Invaders
Jay Severin calls them Criminaliens
But I get your point
Immigrants are those who came in LEGALLY and with respect for the US and its’ laws….something many I congress do NOT have!
If, as it’s implied, that the woman in the photograph is an illegal alien and holding a driver’s license, shouldn’t she be giving all of us the finger rather than a thumbs-up?
the drivers license to a person with illegal immigration status I think that is a good way to track them, just ask for the finger print on the application.
I think All this people against this bill forget where they came from not one of us belone here we all immigrants the native Indian is thruly AMERICAN.
great idea. then allow border patrol access to the names/addresses so the law can be enforced concerning illegal immigrants.
BINGO! Would be easier to have them come to the DMV, sign up then escort them to their free transporation
Some of our best clients were illegal Mexicans in MA. That was before MA changed the insurance regulations and will not allow renewal of any MA auto policy if any listed operator has an out of state or out of country license. Every year in MA a company must run the license info through the MA RMV database to determine surcharge points or discounts that are issued against a MA license. By having an out of state or out of country license, those folks don’t end up in the RMV database because their license is not issued in MA. The Mexican clients always paid on time, drove carefully to avoid accidents (and to not draw attention to themselves). At least they bought insurance and the vehicle could always be tracked back to them. Now, a legal resident will just take money, insure a car in their name and hands the keys over to the illegals who then drive around on discounted rates!
“I need a driver’s license to take Alicy to the doctor, to school and to her physical therapy. However, I cannot get one because of my immigration status,”
If illegals really need a driver’s license, why are we making these concessions for them to obtain a license when they could get a valid driver’s license by becoming legal citizens?
What happens when a police officer determines the person is an illegal (be it from a routine traffic stop or an accident)? Are they supposed to report them? Deport them? Let them continue driving even though they’re not here legally? What happens if the illegal kills someone and they don’t have sufficient insurance to pay the medical bills? If you sue them, will they be forced to pay up, or they can’t enter a legally binding contract because they’re not legally in this country?
Just seems like we shouldn’t allow people to legally drive cars if they aren’t legally supposed to be in this country in the first place
Nan, your reasoning is baseless. Just HOW do you know the ILLEGAL Mexicans drove carefully to avoid accidents? My car just happens to have been HIT by an ILLEGAL, who WASN’T driving carefully, and drew PLENTY of attention to herself. The woman couldn’t even speak ENGLISH, let alone be able to read a traffic sign. Just HOW is a driver’s license going to fix this problem? My stance is this to all ILLEGALS out there: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK INTO MINE, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY!! LEARN MY LANGUAGE, FIRST AND FOREMOST. True AMERICANS are TIRED of having to pay for ILLEGALS.
what is a true american ?
a native american or someone that came here 100 years go or 500 years or became an american a year ago?
I wish someone had told me that “illegal” does not really mean outside the law as it does in every other countries; like a fool I got all my papers and even my citizenship. Sorry I did not I could have sneaked in and get everything free instead of working my arse off.
how about going home where you are LEGAL possibly.
In my opinion, even if said ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are the most moral, honest and safest drivers in the world (which I am sure many of them are), I still do not think they have the right to a drivers license. I am sorry if this sounds harsh but driving is a privilege and not a right. Get legal and I will do everything I can to help get these people a license……until then, I just cannot support this. We need to motivate people to come to the US legally and not provide more incentive to sneak in.
It absolutely amazes me that there is a group fighting for ILLEGAL…yes, ILLEGAL immigrants to get privileges in this country. This State and country is heading for disaster because of all these liberals. If you are ILLEGAL then you have no rights…PERIOD. Sick of all this PC BS.
what are you smoking?
75% of illegals who applied for Nevada driver licenses FAILED.
And who is paying for the medical treatment????
Oh yeah- we are!!
I am an immigrant (now US citizen). The definition on an immigrant is “alien with legal presence) Immigrants are LPR’s (Legal permanent residents)
Please don’t refer to people who violated our immigration laws as “immigrants”. It is not true. It is a lie. Please don’r slur my family.
Since the article incorrectly listed the impacted people as “illegal immigrant”, please advise of the proper term we should use to classify the people impacted by this decision.
If not “illegal immigrant” – what’s the right term??
Gary Jonikke..no one is slurring your family. You all apparently came here through the correct channels and for that, I thank you and WELCOME you to my beautiful America (which is now yours, too). We are referring to the people who come here ILLEGALLY–THESE are the people and their families that we are disgusted with.
I am an immigrant (now US citizen). The definition on an immigrant is “alien with legal presence) Immigrants are LPR’s (Legal permanent resedents.
Please don’t refer to people who violated our immigration laws as “immigrants”. It is not true. It is a lie.
If the definition of Immigrant is alien with legal presence, then the term Illegal Immigrant obviously refers to aliens WITHOUT legal presence. It makes perfect sense to me and in no way slurs your family. Chill out, Gary.
Libby–why don’t YOU chill from your usual, left-winged, self-righteousness?
What bee’s up your bonnet, Not?
You’re the one on here screaming with your comments all in CAPS. I think you and Gary should chill together.
And what, exactly, was left-winged and self-righteous about my post to Gary?
I prefer the term Foreign Invaders
Jay Severin calls them Criminaliens
But I get your point
Immigrants are those who came in LEGALLY and with respect for the US and its’ laws….something many I congress do NOT have!
If, as it’s implied, that the woman in the photograph is an illegal alien and holding a driver’s license, shouldn’t she be giving all of us the finger rather than a thumbs-up?
racist.
the drivers license to a person with illegal immigration status I think that is a good way to track them, just ask for the finger print on the application.
I think All this people against this bill forget where they came from not one of us belone here we all immigrants the native Indian is thruly AMERICAN.
blah,blah,blah…..such crap!
yes but we came here legally with all necessary papers.
Racist
Racist ??? The argument of an irrational ,clueless bully!