Excuse me….Ralph does not have an inflated ego! For Christ\’s sake he flew Southwest Coach when he was traveling for his 2004 campaign. I\’ll bet that Bush and Gore NEVER flew coach once in their lives.
He was the ONLY honest candidate in the 96, 2000 and 2004 election. When you you
sheep wake from your slumber???? Republicrats… you are being fleeced!!!!
Diogenes give me a break. For the better part of 80 years, from when Carl Benz built the first practical automobile to the mid 1960s, people understood that controlling the car is the responsibility of the driver.
You cannot take a corner at 40 mph and expect the thing to stay on the ground.
Suddenly in the 1960s losing control of the car is the car\’s fault, not the driver.
If the bolt holding the wheel on is defective that is one thing. But driving too fast for conditions is the driver\’s fault.
It is blaming your sore thumb on the hammer.
Nadar should go to Tokyo. That is now the seat of power for the auto industry, thanks in part to Mr. Nadar\’s self-proclaimed wizardry. Nice job, Ralphie.
Remember the Ford that had the big story in the 1980s about cars blowing up in rear-end collisions? Must have been hundreds that blew up.
Guess how many actually did.
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Bad enough for people involved, but not near the epidemic the stories would lead you to believe.
Nader for President? How about if we put him in a Corvair (which I did have and agree that it was a very good car) and crash him into the back of a Pinto?? Should solve the problem!
Hal – The only \”epidemic\” was of corrupt thinking at Ford: that it would be less expensive to handle the resultant lawsuits for deaths and injuries involving the \”flaming Pintos\” instead of engineering preventive measures to avoid them.
Quit being an apologist for greedy, corrupt corporate officers. Let the regulators regulate and maybe they\’ll take a few dishonest agents and brokers out, too.
I think that Nader started out as a possibly sincere person interested in auto safety. However, over the years his giant ego has pushed him into some areas that he is not qualified for, including politics. Many do blame him for causing Gore to lose in 2000 and inflicting the USA with all the unbelievable incompetence of the Bush administration.
\”Many do blame him for causing Gore to lose in 2000 and inflicting the USA with all the unbelievable incompetence of the Bush administration.\”
So he has done something constructive with his life after all.
As for the abilities of the Bush admin, I thank God regularly that the adults are in charge of the govt now after eight years of libertine pinkos running the show, and all adults agree with me.
Liberalism is a mental disorder bred by the toxic combination of guilt and envy. I heard on the radio the other day that a pharmaceutical company has now produced a pill to help addicted gamblers. Now if only they could come up with one that would enable liberals to think clearly.
\”…call them names… Typical asinine comment from the brain dead right wing.\”
Is it not amazing how this INSURANCE forum has turned into the same cheap shot political crap like the rest of our media.
\”Truth\” I doubt it.
My complaint with Mr Nader is his holier than thou attitude with which he performs his campaigns against all who disagree with him. This is not unlike Robert Hunter, who is relentless in his attacks against our industry. I think Mr Hunter, too, is of the bar.
Whatever good Nader did, he is watering down with his continual assaults against the auto industry. I know I feel much safer in my car than I did in the 1970s, but I believe competitive business pressures had as much to do with the inclusion of safety features as did Mr Nader and the US Government.
And if Mr \”Truth\” thinks I am a brain dead right winger, let me assure him that the rodent\’s rump is safe!
The mere mention of God gets your hackles up. Typical comment from a soul-dead liberal.
So you want intelligent discourse about Ralph Nader, the white multi-millionaire said in public during a speech a couple of years ago, \”I felt like a [n-word]\”?
Fellow liberal rabble rouser Al Sharpton responded, \”If Ed Koch had said what Ralph Nader said, we\’d be marching. This doesn\’t rise to the level of a march. It rises to the level of a wrist slap.\”
Do these two liberal icons represent intelligent discourse?
Saint Ralph loves to preach about democracy and \”citizen power\”, but he runs his carefully concealed empire with an iron grip. Of 19 groups associated with Nader, the most powerful and important groups are all directly controlled by Nader or completely under his influence and no one else\’s. With some groups, Nader is the only contributor; others are controlled by his sister or a cousin.
And there is nothing democratic about Nader\’s groups — citizens have no power at all. Of 19 groups in Nader\’s network, only one relatively minor one is a membership organization, which would allow individuals to vote and challenge the decisions of the small elite running them. The groups\’ managers operate in strict secrecy, releasing the absolute legal minimum of information, and sometimes not even that.
Jack – the comment was directed at \”Rove\”, not you. The pseudonym says it all.
\”The groups\’ managers operate in strict secrecy, releasing the absolute legal minimum of information, and sometimes not even that.\” Just like the Bush administration!
Excuse me….Ralph does not have an inflated ego! For Christ\’s sake he flew Southwest Coach when he was traveling for his 2004 campaign. I\’ll bet that Bush and Gore NEVER flew coach once in their lives.
He was the ONLY honest candidate in the 96, 2000 and 2004 election. When you you
sheep wake from your slumber???? Republicrats… you are being fleeced!!!!
Diogenes give me a break. For the better part of 80 years, from when Carl Benz built the first practical automobile to the mid 1960s, people understood that controlling the car is the responsibility of the driver.
You cannot take a corner at 40 mph and expect the thing to stay on the ground.
Suddenly in the 1960s losing control of the car is the car\’s fault, not the driver.
If the bolt holding the wheel on is defective that is one thing. But driving too fast for conditions is the driver\’s fault.
It is blaming your sore thumb on the hammer.
He needs to just go to work fixin\’ traffic tickets and suing for stupid things like the other hack lawyers do. He gives lawyers a bad name.
Nadar should go to Tokyo. That is now the seat of power for the auto industry, thanks in part to Mr. Nadar\’s self-proclaimed wizardry. Nice job, Ralphie.
Do I hear a chorus of Kumbayah?
This child of the sixties grew up. When will Ralph Nader and the rest of his ilk?
My dad owned a Chevy Corvair. For its time and the money, it was a very good car.
As an automotive safety enginner, Ralph Nader makes a good lawyer.
Remember the Ford that had the big story in the 1980s about cars blowing up in rear-end collisions? Must have been hundreds that blew up.
Guess how many actually did.
6
Bad enough for people involved, but not near the epidemic the stories would lead you to believe.
Nader for President? How about if we put him in a Corvair (which I did have and agree that it was a very good car) and crash him into the back of a Pinto?? Should solve the problem!
Hal – The only \”epidemic\” was of corrupt thinking at Ford: that it would be less expensive to handle the resultant lawsuits for deaths and injuries involving the \”flaming Pintos\” instead of engineering preventive measures to avoid them.
Quit being an apologist for greedy, corrupt corporate officers. Let the regulators regulate and maybe they\’ll take a few dishonest agents and brokers out, too.
…it would be less expensive to handle the resultant lawsuits…
Sounds like, dare I say it, a lawyer was involved.
Isn\’t Ralph Nader a lawyer, too?
Does anyone else remember the song that ended the original \”Italian Job\”? the refrain went . \”We are are the self preservation society.\”
does \”buckle up\” ring any bells with you critics?
I think that Nader started out as a possibly sincere person interested in auto safety. However, over the years his giant ego has pushed him into some areas that he is not qualified for, including politics. Many do blame him for causing Gore to lose in 2000 and inflicting the USA with all the unbelievable incompetence of the Bush administration.
…as opposed to the unrelently ego of Mr Gore. He didn\’t lose, Ralph Nader lost it for him!
Call out the lawyers!
\”Many do blame him for causing Gore to lose in 2000 and inflicting the USA with all the unbelievable incompetence of the Bush administration.\”
So he has done something constructive with his life after all.
As for the abilities of the Bush admin, I thank God regularly that the adults are in charge of the govt now after eight years of libertine pinkos running the show, and all adults agree with me.
Liberalism is a mental disorder bred by the toxic combination of guilt and envy. I heard on the radio the other day that a pharmaceutical company has now produced a pill to help addicted gamblers. Now if only they could come up with one that would enable liberals to think clearly.
If you can\’t offer intelligent discourse, call them names, and invoke God! Typical asinine comment from the brain dead right wing.
\”…call them names… Typical asinine comment from the brain dead right wing.\”
Is it not amazing how this INSURANCE forum has turned into the same cheap shot political crap like the rest of our media.
\”Truth\” I doubt it.
My complaint with Mr Nader is his holier than thou attitude with which he performs his campaigns against all who disagree with him. This is not unlike Robert Hunter, who is relentless in his attacks against our industry. I think Mr Hunter, too, is of the bar.
Whatever good Nader did, he is watering down with his continual assaults against the auto industry. I know I feel much safer in my car than I did in the 1970s, but I believe competitive business pressures had as much to do with the inclusion of safety features as did Mr Nader and the US Government.
And if Mr \”Truth\” thinks I am a brain dead right winger, let me assure him that the rodent\’s rump is safe!
The mere mention of God gets your hackles up. Typical comment from a soul-dead liberal.
So you want intelligent discourse about Ralph Nader, the white multi-millionaire said in public during a speech a couple of years ago, \”I felt like a [n-word]\”?
Fellow liberal rabble rouser Al Sharpton responded, \”If Ed Koch had said what Ralph Nader said, we\’d be marching. This doesn\’t rise to the level of a march. It rises to the level of a wrist slap.\”
Do these two liberal icons represent intelligent discourse?
Saint Ralph loves to preach about democracy and \”citizen power\”, but he runs his carefully concealed empire with an iron grip. Of 19 groups associated with Nader, the most powerful and important groups are all directly controlled by Nader or completely under his influence and no one else\’s. With some groups, Nader is the only contributor; others are controlled by his sister or a cousin.
And there is nothing democratic about Nader\’s groups — citizens have no power at all. Of 19 groups in Nader\’s network, only one relatively minor one is a membership organization, which would allow individuals to vote and challenge the decisions of the small elite running them. The groups\’ managers operate in strict secrecy, releasing the absolute legal minimum of information, and sometimes not even that.
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm#hypocrite
Jack – the comment was directed at \”Rove\”, not you. The pseudonym says it all.
\”The groups\’ managers operate in strict secrecy, releasing the absolute legal minimum of information, and sometimes not even that.\” Just like the Bush administration!