from the city of Seattle. They trashed downtown businesses and stopped normal business and personal activities, now they get a handout? America, please understand, not all Seattlites are selfish idiots, and some of the self-centered civil disobedience occurred because anarchists from Oregon hitchhiked to Seattle looking for, quite typically, a handout. Looks like they got it. How about some government cheese, too?
It\’s a racket for small-brain attorneys, as the Gov\’t (me and you) pay their legal fees if it is a civil rights issue.
Another way for attys who can\’t make it in private practice to feed at the public trough.
This whole boo hoo you violated my rights is ridiculous — on 7th and Union where the first fateful day occurred lucky me had birds eye view of everything that happened. From my office on Union from the 10th floor I a great view of that corner. So I stood and watched as all these “peaceful” protesters threw cans, bottles, rocks, and anything else they could get their hands on at the police who were only standing a line doing their job. At the time the police weren’t outfitted in their riot gear. Yet they still stood taking all the physical and verbal abuse from these peaceful protesters. The police were only doing their job. Or trying to. Between that and the dumpster that was set on fire and rolled into the police line you cant blame them for not trying to sort out the peaceful from the trouble makers.
As far as I am concerned the protesters should be made to pay the people that had to work down town. During this mess I had to literally sneak through back alleys, show id to the military to get into work (after the initial mess our office then became located in the red zone), and had to evacuate my office because of the tear gas that was leaking in our lobby, because the police had to use it to subdue these “peaceful” people.
On the day our office had to leave because of the tear gas, we had to sneak through alleys to get out of downtown- we had no clue we were right behind the worst of the damage. The news crews didn’t even cover one tenth of what we saw, the useless and wanton destruction of everything in the protesters path. Literally we were one block behind them.
Now I know what it is like to live in a third world country under martial law. And I never want to go there again. So protesters where is my money from you for causing my excess trauma? Hmmm…
Unless I missed something, those \”small brained\” attorneys who got their clients a $1,000,000 settlment have just demonstrated that they are quite competent and are doing quite well at \”making it\” in private practice. This was no easy case to win. Score one for the Constitution.
Sure looks like someone has a good handle on what REALLY happened that fateful day. One might lump politicians and attorneys in the same boat………and ship them off somewhere else!
Agreed So…. The lawsuit was pure BS and a money shakedown. \”Civil liberties\” being \”violated\” PLEASE, what crap. Those protesters were breaking the law once they started damaging private property and disturbing the peace; that filth deserved more than 3 days in jail. With their \”winnings\” they should have to pay for the damage they caused to all the local businesses and for their loss of business revenue.
AFSC Values
We cherish the belief that there is that of God in each person, leading us to respect the worth and dignity of all. We are guided and empowered by the Spirit in following the radical thrust of the early Christian witness. From these beliefs flow the core understandings that form the spiritual framework of our organization and guide its work.
We regard no person as our enemy. While we often oppose specific actions and abuses of power, we seek to address the goodness and truth in each individual.
We assert the transforming power of love and nonviolence as a challenge to injustice and violence and as a force for reconciliation.
We seek and trust the power of the Spirit to guide the individual and collective search for truth and practical action.
We accept our understandings of truth as incomplete and have faith that new perceptions of truth will continue to be revealed both to us and to others.
AFSC Work
We seek to understand and address the root causes of poverty, injustice, and war. We hope to act with courage and vision in taking initiatives that may not be popular.
AFSC Values
We cherish the belief that there is that of God in each person, leading us to respect the worth and dignity of all. We are guided and empowered by the Spirit in following the radical thrust of the early Christian witness. From these beliefs flow the core understandings that form the spiritual framework of our organization and guide its work.
We regard no person as our enemy. While we often oppose specific actions and abuses of power, we seek to address the goodness and truth in each individual.
We assert the transforming power of love and nonviolence as a challenge to injustice and violence and as a force for reconciliation.
We seek and trust the power of the Spirit to guide the individual and collective search for truth and practical action.
We accept our understandings of truth as incomplete and have faith that new perceptions of truth will continue to be revealed both to us and to others.
AFSC Work
We seek to understand and address the root causes of poverty, injustice, and war. We hope to act with courage and vision in taking initiatives that may not be popular.
Pretty radical to some, but this is where the Spirit has us. Faith in action.
In the 1972 AFSC pamphlet Non-Violence: Not First For Export, author John Bristol explicitly describes the feelings that the AFSC has for the West in general, and America in particular. In a passage forgiving terrorists for their violent ways, Bristol asserts that \”terrorism…repeatedly…is used to signify violent action on the part of oppressed peoples in Asia, Africa, Latin America or within the black ghettos of America, as they take up the weapons of violence in a desperate effort to wrest for themselves the freedom and justice denied them by the systems that presently control their lives.\” But who exactly is the cause of the \’system\’ terrorists are trying to overthrow? Bristol places the blame squarely at the feet of the West. \”What millions of middle-class and other non-poor fail to realize is that they are themselves accomplices each day in meeting [sic.] out inhuman, all-pervading violence upon their fellows.\”
A quick look at flyers posted on the AFSC website gives one a clear understanding of where these people stand. Grassroots Voices, the explicitly radical-activist wing of the AFSC, recently sponsored their 2002 Conference On Justice And Global Security. In addition to the slew of anti-American workshops and classes held during the conference, the event was co-sponsored by the Communist Party USA and the Communist-founded National Lawyers Guild.
You really need to read my earlier post. What is so peaceful about a prosters lighting a dumpster on fire and sending it rolling into a police line up?
The police were the peacefull ones only doing thier job- I was there, in the middle of the whole thing- normally I would side with the protesters, but since I SAW the whole thing, I can only beleive my eyes.
Get off your high horses. They were rightfully jailed. No matter how many days that was. They did something wrong, and deserved what they got.
Plain and simple- if any of you all witnessed what trasnspired and differ from my opinion speak up- otherwise…. well
The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) is a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) affiliated organization which works for social justice, peace and reconciliation, abolition of the death penalty, and human rights, and provides humanitarian relief. The group was founded in 1917 as a combined effort by American members of the Religious Society of Friends and assisted civilian victims of war.
Because Quakers traditionally oppose violence in all of its forms and therefore refuse to serve in the military, the AFSC\’s original mission was to provide conscientious objectors (COs) to war with a constructive alternative to military service. In 1947 AFSC received the Nobel Peace Prize along with the British Friends Service Council, now called Quaker Peace and Social Witness, on behalf of all Quakers worldwide.
By the way not all members of the Religious Society of Friends work for the AFSC.
Attenders at Quaker meetings include Buddhists, Jews, Catholics, Wiccans, Agnostics, Atheists and those who seek Christ. We believe that there is that of the Creator in everyone, even those who
disagree with us!
from the city of Seattle. They trashed downtown businesses and stopped normal business and personal activities, now they get a handout? America, please understand, not all Seattlites are selfish idiots, and some of the self-centered civil disobedience occurred because anarchists from Oregon hitchhiked to Seattle looking for, quite typically, a handout. Looks like they got it. How about some government cheese, too?
They aren\’t just from OR – they\’re all over the country: they\’re the Democrat Party base!
It\’s a racket for small-brain attorneys, as the Gov\’t (me and you) pay their legal fees if it is a civil rights issue.
Another way for attys who can\’t make it in private practice to feed at the public trough.
Did I miss something? Didn\’t a jury made up of Seattle residents find that civil rights were violated?
Who cares what a jury decided. It\’s BS regardless.
Was OJ innocent also?
This whole boo hoo you violated my rights is ridiculous — on 7th and Union where the first fateful day occurred lucky me had birds eye view of everything that happened. From my office on Union from the 10th floor I a great view of that corner. So I stood and watched as all these “peaceful” protesters threw cans, bottles, rocks, and anything else they could get their hands on at the police who were only standing a line doing their job. At the time the police weren’t outfitted in their riot gear. Yet they still stood taking all the physical and verbal abuse from these peaceful protesters. The police were only doing their job. Or trying to. Between that and the dumpster that was set on fire and rolled into the police line you cant blame them for not trying to sort out the peaceful from the trouble makers.
As far as I am concerned the protesters should be made to pay the people that had to work down town. During this mess I had to literally sneak through back alleys, show id to the military to get into work (after the initial mess our office then became located in the red zone), and had to evacuate my office because of the tear gas that was leaking in our lobby, because the police had to use it to subdue these “peaceful” people.
On the day our office had to leave because of the tear gas, we had to sneak through alleys to get out of downtown- we had no clue we were right behind the worst of the damage. The news crews didn’t even cover one tenth of what we saw, the useless and wanton destruction of everything in the protesters path. Literally we were one block behind them.
Now I know what it is like to live in a third world country under martial law. And I never want to go there again. So protesters where is my money from you for causing my excess trauma? Hmmm…
Unless I missed something, those \”small brained\” attorneys who got their clients a $1,000,000 settlment have just demonstrated that they are quite competent and are doing quite well at \”making it\” in private practice. This was no easy case to win. Score one for the Constitution.
Sure looks like someone has a good handle on what REALLY happened that fateful day. One might lump politicians and attorneys in the same boat………and ship them off somewhere else!
Agreed So…. The lawsuit was pure BS and a money shakedown. \”Civil liberties\” being \”violated\” PLEASE, what crap. Those protesters were breaking the law once they started damaging private property and disturbing the peace; that filth deserved more than 3 days in jail. With their \”winnings\” they should have to pay for the damage they caused to all the local businesses and for their loss of business revenue.
Does not sound as if the protesters were much of a threat….
Maybe you do not agree with the protesters but do you need to call them
\”that filth?\”
AFSC Values
We cherish the belief that there is that of God in each person, leading us to respect the worth and dignity of all. We are guided and empowered by the Spirit in following the radical thrust of the early Christian witness. From these beliefs flow the core understandings that form the spiritual framework of our organization and guide its work.
We regard no person as our enemy. While we often oppose specific actions and abuses of power, we seek to address the goodness and truth in each individual.
We assert the transforming power of love and nonviolence as a challenge to injustice and violence and as a force for reconciliation.
We seek and trust the power of the Spirit to guide the individual and collective search for truth and practical action.
We accept our understandings of truth as incomplete and have faith that new perceptions of truth will continue to be revealed both to us and to others.
AFSC Work
We seek to understand and address the root causes of poverty, injustice, and war. We hope to act with courage and vision in taking initiatives that may not be popular.
AFSC Values
We cherish the belief that there is that of God in each person, leading us to respect the worth and dignity of all. We are guided and empowered by the Spirit in following the radical thrust of the early Christian witness. From these beliefs flow the core understandings that form the spiritual framework of our organization and guide its work.
We regard no person as our enemy. While we often oppose specific actions and abuses of power, we seek to address the goodness and truth in each individual.
We assert the transforming power of love and nonviolence as a challenge to injustice and violence and as a force for reconciliation.
We seek and trust the power of the Spirit to guide the individual and collective search for truth and practical action.
We accept our understandings of truth as incomplete and have faith that new perceptions of truth will continue to be revealed both to us and to others.
AFSC Work
We seek to understand and address the root causes of poverty, injustice, and war. We hope to act with courage and vision in taking initiatives that may not be popular.
Pretty radical to some, but this is where the Spirit has us. Faith in action.
In the 1972 AFSC pamphlet Non-Violence: Not First For Export, author John Bristol explicitly describes the feelings that the AFSC has for the West in general, and America in particular. In a passage forgiving terrorists for their violent ways, Bristol asserts that \”terrorism…repeatedly…is used to signify violent action on the part of oppressed peoples in Asia, Africa, Latin America or within the black ghettos of America, as they take up the weapons of violence in a desperate effort to wrest for themselves the freedom and justice denied them by the systems that presently control their lives.\” But who exactly is the cause of the \’system\’ terrorists are trying to overthrow? Bristol places the blame squarely at the feet of the West. \”What millions of middle-class and other non-poor fail to realize is that they are themselves accomplices each day in meeting [sic.] out inhuman, all-pervading violence upon their fellows.\”
A quick look at flyers posted on the AFSC website gives one a clear understanding of where these people stand. Grassroots Voices, the explicitly radical-activist wing of the AFSC, recently sponsored their 2002 Conference On Justice And Global Security. In addition to the slew of anti-American workshops and classes held during the conference, the event was co-sponsored by the Communist Party USA and the Communist-founded National Lawyers Guild.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8215
You really need to read my earlier post. What is so peaceful about a prosters lighting a dumpster on fire and sending it rolling into a police line up?
The police were the peacefull ones only doing thier job- I was there, in the middle of the whole thing- normally I would side with the protesters, but since I SAW the whole thing, I can only beleive my eyes.
Get off your high horses. They were rightfully jailed. No matter how many days that was. They did something wrong, and deserved what they got.
Plain and simple- if any of you all witnessed what trasnspired and differ from my opinion speak up- otherwise…. well
Al, that was a very enlightening piece on AFSC. How ironic that the atheist Soviet form of government is the one preferred by \”Christian\” AFSC.
Yer welcome.
The devil\’s in the religion business.
The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) is a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) affiliated organization which works for social justice, peace and reconciliation, abolition of the death penalty, and human rights, and provides humanitarian relief. The group was founded in 1917 as a combined effort by American members of the Religious Society of Friends and assisted civilian victims of war.
Because Quakers traditionally oppose violence in all of its forms and therefore refuse to serve in the military, the AFSC\’s original mission was to provide conscientious objectors (COs) to war with a constructive alternative to military service. In 1947 AFSC received the Nobel Peace Prize along with the British Friends Service Council, now called Quaker Peace and Social Witness, on behalf of all Quakers worldwide.
By the way not all members of the Religious Society of Friends work for the AFSC.
Attenders at Quaker meetings include Buddhists, Jews, Catholics, Wiccans, Agnostics, Atheists and those who seek Christ. We believe that there is that of the Creator in everyone, even those who
disagree with us!
\”Attenders at Quaker meetings include Buddhists, Jews, Catholics, Wiccans, Agnostics, Atheists and those who seek Christ.\”
Those in the last category are no doubt disappointed.