More Than 81,000 Pennsylvanians Enroll Under Federal Health Care Law

January 15, 2014
Health Law

  • January 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm
    jack says:
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    76 % got government assistance- bend over middle class! Can you say tax increase ? Can you say 20-22 tril debt when Obuma leaves in 2016?

  • January 15, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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    76,000 eh? That’s out of a population of 12,773,801 according to the latest census. That is exactly 1% of the population.

    So, in order to add 1% of the population of the state of Pennsylvania to a government subsidized healthcare system we kicked out 10 times that number and forced everybody else to pay dramatically more. You have to be a Democrat to think that math makes sense.

    If it weren’t so real, it would be a bad joke.

  • January 15, 2014 at 1:53 pm
    Captain Planet says:
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    My goodness, this is growing in popularity.

    • January 15, 2014 at 3:56 pm
      Integrity Matters says:
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      HAHAHA. Please stop. You make my tummy hurt.

    • January 17, 2014 at 2:11 pm
      perplexed says:
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      Captain, that’s all you have to say about this debacle? Are you that blind that you can’t see what’s happening to you and the rest of us as this thing progresses? One would have to be self imposed stupid not see the train wreck coming.

      • January 17, 2014 at 2:20 pm
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        No wreck. Single payer!

        • January 17, 2014 at 5:06 pm
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          Bada-boom!

          • January 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm
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            Bada – moron.

            You need to learn to read.

            What I loved was when you said you saw all the same things I see on the news…

            When I post Italian studies. I want to know who you saw on TV that posted the study on cancer cases and obesity in Italy, and then took the WHO’s third world country occurrence rates of cancer, showing them lower than developed nations, and then showed that our survival rates are the highest of nearly all catastrophic care.

            Then put them all together to show that our mortality is linked to higher occurrence rates of catastrophic heart attack, and cancer, linked to obesity and diet, and that thusly, our superior outcome rate shows our better system, and our worse mortality rate, shows our worse living styles.

            I just want to see the link or the video showing the people who have said that.

            You said I just parrot the same old. Show me.

        • January 20, 2014 at 1:45 pm
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          I already showed you studies that indirectly proved that our our outcomes of treatment and survival rates are the best in the world, and that our diet is the cause for our higher occurrence rate.

          Our high occurrence rate cannot be solved by single payer, and each developed nation with high obesity rates has higher occurrence rates than 3rd world countries. This showed that it was solely diet.

          Therefore: Comparing two country styles, and seeing that single payer systems have worse outcomes, proves the system doesn’t work. In all cancers totaled we were significantly better on outcomes. In every area we were better.

          You need to learn to read the studies I post. You dismissed it saying maybe it was all that preventative care…In a third world country, and skipped over my Italian study on how many cases of cancer were thought to from obesity. In men it was 20% in women, who were post menopause, it was about 50%.

          Learn to read the studies I post. They prove our system is the best in the world, and single payer would not result in better healthcare outcomes. It might cause better occurrence rates as people start to realize they will die if they get too fat, but that’s about it.

          • January 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm
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            Bob – better occurrence rates = better outcomes. And single payer would result in better healthcare outcomes because EVERYONE would have access to the wonderful system you keep touting.

  • January 15, 2014 at 3:54 pm
    Integrity Matters says:
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    Figures lie and Liars figure. How long before we hear that these numbers are exaggerated? If you notice, the article states that Obama said over 2MM have enrolled. That does not necessarily mean that they actually purchased the coverage. Obama likes to walk the fine line of truth and tells us things that might sound like one thing but actually means another. I wonder how he defines the term “enrolled”.

  • January 15, 2014 at 10:00 pm
    Realist says:
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    That’s the problem, people like you guessing………….

  • January 16, 2014 at 9:48 am
    Never2Late says:
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    I worked with a young single mother a few years back who could not afford to contribute to our company’s health insurance plan. She was making about $13,000 a year and I think the employee contribution at the time was about $200 a month for a family. She had a teenaged son, newly diagnosed with a mild form of mental illness, who had no insurance either as he did not qualify for CHIPS at the time. This woman seethed with rage at work, consumed with worry about not having the resources to pay for medical care for herself and her son. She is an example of a person who will benefit from the new health care options.

    • January 16, 2014 at 3:49 pm
      Always Amazed says:
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      You worked with a woman a few years ago who made $13,000 a year. That would be about $6.25 an hr which is lower then minimum wage at least here in IL. Somehow I don’t quite believe your story. Employee contribution of $200, huh.

      • January 17, 2014 at 9:57 am
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        The salary was $13,000 a year. It was a receptionist/policy typist position. I helped to interview the person, so I remember what we were paying. The monthly contribution was between $180 and $200 a month, cannot remember exactly. But it was more than she could afford. Actually I think the year was about 1996 – more than a few years back. Same thing happened with the woman who replaced her, she couldn’t afford the insurance either. She had a procedure done in a doctor’s office that normally required a hospital stay.

    • January 16, 2014 at 5:10 pm
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      Medicaid was originally designed for these situations. Additional controls should have been put in place to not bankrupt it, instead of turning the existing system upside down.

      Obamacare is ruining a system that mostly worked for the majority (85%) of the population. Other changes could have been done to reduce the number of those without insurance and improve the few areas of the previous system.

      Eliminating the care for illegal aliens (or charging back to their home country while deporting) would save BILLIONS!

    • January 16, 2014 at 5:35 pm
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      What’s the deductible going to be for her and her son under the new health care options?

      • January 17, 2014 at 4:25 pm
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        I got two thumbs down for simply inquiring about the lady’s deductible? I’m still curious to know, not so much about her premiums, but what are her deductibles, the out of pocket she has to meet before the insurance even kicks in, going to be for her and her son.

  • January 16, 2014 at 4:16 pm
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    Not if she was only working 32 hours a week. That’s usually the minimum to qualify for benefits.

    • January 16, 2014 at 5:13 pm
      Integrity Matters says:
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      And now with the Obamacare employment laws, some previous full time workers are now part time. So now they have less money to not be able to afford health insurance.

      Wow, that really helped.

      • January 17, 2014 at 9:41 am
        Captain Planet says:
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        Sounds like the employer is to blame. Won’t keep people full time so benefits do not need to be paid. I think the conservative response would be for a dissatisfied employee to go look for a job somewhere else or get another part time job if the pay isn’t good enough with the 1 job. Find a better deal. Go back to school and get more education so a better job could be sought. C’mon, pull yourself up by those bootstraps. And, when worse goes to worst, just boil and eat those bootstraps. Whatever you do, don’t come looking to me for any help. I believe in Supply Side Jesus Christian principles. What would Supply Side Jesus do? That seems to be the conservative credence.

        What we need to do is to remove the tie of health benefits to employement. People are settling for jobs or staying in jobs they hate just because of that benefit. Kind of kills that American spirit of being whatever it is you set your mind to because you can’t be whatever you want to be if you get sick and don’t have healthcare. The healthcare employee benefit has been a large part of the growing healthcare problems in this country. Time to go single payer! Here to help, planetary stewardship and American solutions. Oh, and I also call out the current conservative BS. I stress current. What happened to the Goldwater conservatives?

        • January 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm
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          I just met with a financial advisor and unless I am allowed to be added to my husband’s company retirement health insurance at age 62, I will have to work another 3 years. I have enough income to retire at 62, but not without health insurance. It sucks!

          • January 17, 2014 at 7:05 pm
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            I’m officially jealous. I can’t retire at 62.

        • January 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm
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          Cap, Seem you blame everything wrong with the system on the Employer. It is Obamas fault that employers are put in this position. It is OBamas fault that Employees are put in this position.

          Obama killed these jobs and has diminished the quality of life for these people me included.

        • January 17, 2014 at 3:37 pm
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          Planet, Obama and the Dums made the law. The employers are simply following the law. You don’t realize that is all part of the Masters Plan. The Govt Master want the people to be enslaved to the govt programs. If this wasn’t intentional, then it shows how incompetent they are. Don’t blame the employer for taking action for their own survival.

          Also, employer offered health insurance is a benefit. Most employers pay a large percentage of that benefit.

          Also, there are COBRA laws in effect that people can use to keep the same insurance. Obviously at a higher cost, because it is not subsidized by the employer. This is an area that could/should be addressed. If the employee elects to keep their insurance via COBRA, the new employer should be required to participate at the same level they provide for their others employees for the health care afforded to them.

          • January 17, 2014 at 3:57 pm
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            If employers would drop health insurance, raise salaries and make everyone responsible for their own health insurance, you wouldn’t need COBRA.

            I don’t agree in the mandated coverage portion of the ACA. I think carriers should be required to offer a plan with all the bells and whistles (at an affordable price) but people should be able to buy whatever coverage they want or can afford.

          • January 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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            Wow Libby, your almost sounding like a Republican except that whole give everyone a raise part…

          • January 17, 2014 at 7:11 pm
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            I think separating health insurance from jobs is an excellent idea. Someone else said it last month, too. It seems that would make a LOT of people happy. Take out the mandates in the ACA and the rest of the population might be happy. Wow. It sounds too easy. I guess that means it is way more complicated than I’m imagining.

          • January 20, 2014 at 8:42 am
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            FFA – if health insurance is a employer provided “benefit” why wouldn’t they raise salaries if they are no longer providing it? Or you think they should cut the benefit, keep the money, and throw the employee to the wolves. Now that sounds like a Republican!

          • January 21, 2014 at 2:47 pm
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            Libby, giving people more money on their pay check just increases the taxes employers and employees pay. I am dead set against giving the Govt – Local,State or Fed – and additional money to send to foreign countries, giving it to the life time welfare bums. I would more likely give them company cell phones so they could lose that bill from their private budget.

            Give the govt more money to piss away????? No Way! Screw then A Holes. None of them care about you and I.

          • January 22, 2014 at 9:09 am
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            Not if they use the increase pay for health insurance, which would then be tax deductible. Think outside the box, FFA.

          • January 22, 2014 at 10:39 am
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            Libby, Individual Health Insurance Premiums are not tax deductible for the business. I dont believe they are deductible for the individual unless they are self employed.

            The tax advantage that is coming is for the Govt as employers drop the group. My renewal was over $3000. Thats $36000 I can not write off any more. with the Govt at all levels being hostile to business, they are licking their chops.

          • January 22, 2014 at 1:00 pm
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            FFA – I said think outside the box. They would be tax deductible in my perfect world.

          • January 22, 2014 at 1:05 pm
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            Libby Said :ot if they use the increase pay for health insurance, which would then be tax deductible”.

            i am trying to think outside the box… Company Cell Phones maybe?

            Just to hand them A holes in Springfield & DC more money to send to the mid east is counter productive to everything American. Way for OfnBama to let people know they do not matter as much as the Syrians do.

      • January 17, 2014 at 3:58 pm
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        You’re right Integrity. They should have made it apply to ALL employees, not just the full-time. Problem solved.

        • January 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm
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          DCMS, that would have skyrocketd the unemployment rate. There would be less people working more hours further diminishing the quality of life for those involved.

          They should have not left out tort reform. That was their 2nd biggest mistake right behind thinking they know more about our biz then the carriers do.

  • January 17, 2014 at 10:46 am
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    This is a bit off the subject but I heard on Fox News this morning that in New Mexico 1 out of 7 Navigaters has a criminal record. Nice going.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368597/obamacares-fishy-navigators-jillian-kay-melchior I’d love to know the stats in all the states.

    • January 17, 2014 at 12:18 pm
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      That’s not what the article says. It said 1 out of 7 was in the NCIC database, but did not mean they had actually committed or been found guilty of committing a crime.

      Not to mention, NM is doing what you conservatives have been screaming about for so long – a background check. They are disqualifying those guilty of significant financial crimes and child abuse. It is nice going.

      • January 17, 2014 at 1:31 pm
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        Good for them… After meeting with that State Senator that walking to see how things are going, I did point out the lack of security on the exchange. Told him that people trust their agents. Agents have security set up. If a problem does happen in an agents office, it all falls on the agent.

        Seemed to make sense to him.

      • January 17, 2014 at 3:49 pm
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        Yes, it is nice going. Gee, I wonder why the Obama administration didn’t have that step in their hiring of these employees. Oh, that’s right; they didn’t even have their security portion developed on their own website before the roll out date much less anything else for that matter. And, gee, if your identity gets stolen, don’t go crying to them. There’s that little clause in the fine print someplace that makes the government not liable. Oh, BTW, yes those folks did have criminal charges. “The crimes committed by navigators whose names are showing up in the crime databases range from domestic violence to aggravated battery, and aggravated assault, drug charges and child abuse to name a few.”

        http://pumabydesign001.com/2014/01/17/one-in-seven-new-mexico-certified-obamacare-navigators-are-in-fbi-database/

        A fine bunch of upstanding citizens with the most personal information on anyone who went on line and applied. Yes, nice going.

        • January 17, 2014 at 7:22 pm
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          Ms. AA – The first article you linked included this:

          “For other navigator applicants who trigger NCIC hits, three OSI experts then review the results, assessing on a case-by-case basis whether a navigator should receive certification. For example, a 20-year-old shoplifting conviction for an otherwise upstanding citizen might not be disqualifying, while a recent fraud charge could be.”

          So, in essence, you don’t think ANY person who has been accused/convicted of a crime can become an honest citizen. Well, I may not think EVERY criminal can be rehabilitated, but surely SOME can.

    • January 17, 2014 at 1:00 pm
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      Always Amazed wrote, “This is a bit off the subject but I heard on Fox News this morning…”

      Enough said!

      • January 20, 2014 at 1:40 pm
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        And there go the blinders.

        Not enough said. Check the facts.

  • January 17, 2014 at 1:34 pm
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    I gave my producer a Bump on his commis scale. If nothing falls off or comes on, he will make $40,000 part time (about 35 hours a week). He complained was not enough. Told him to go find another offer in writing and bring it to me.

    He shut up quickly. Never said thanks. Nothing. Like he is entitled to more….

    • January 17, 2014 at 1:46 pm
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      That’s too bad, FFA. Makes you wish you didn’t give him anything, doesn’t it? He needs to put in a few more hours and sell some shit if he wants to make more money!

      • January 17, 2014 at 2:42 pm
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        He is an Obomanite. Die hard Democrat. He is 63 and seemingly part of the generation of entitlement.

        He sees first hand the damage the Dems in Springfield and DC have done to our profession, but yet he blames the Employer for his economic situation. We should start referring to that as Cap Planet syndrome.

        Of course, he didn’t bother to inform me of this until after I gave him his bump…
        Most recently, 1/1/2014, he bound a $60000 E&S policy with no money down. Carrier wants their money. I am on the hook for 25% of the premium weather the client pays or not… I specifically told him No Check, No Bind Order. But he did it anyways. That’s about $15,000 he obligated me to. Didn’t charge MVR fees or nothing…

        • January 17, 2014 at 4:03 pm
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          I guess I’d be taking that out of his pay…

    • January 17, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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      FFA, I’d be happier than a clam if I were making that much money. Let me know when you’re hiring.

  • January 17, 2014 at 4:02 pm
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    Hey, Always. Maybe you didn’t know but the ACA leaves the guidelines for navigators up to each state. Obama didn’t have anything to do with it. Take it up with your Governor.

    And, NO, they did not all have criminal charges. As evidenced by:

    “A hit in the NCIC does not necessarily reflect a criminal conviction. The database can include, for example, arrest records and criminal cases that were dismissed or led to an acquittal, according to the FBI.”

    Of the ones, that DID have charges, the ranged from “domestic violence to aggravated battery, and aggravated assault, drug charges and child abuse to name a few.”

    You neocons really need to learn how to read.

    • January 17, 2014 at 4:10 pm
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      libby – Really??? Take it up with the gov??? Do you know she is in IL? All that SOB cares about is spending more money and increasing taxes not to mention pushing legit employers out of this state…

      Always, stay tuned. Got less the 30 days to get it figured out…

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      • January 20, 2014 at 8:46 am
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        So someone with a teenage marijuana conviction 30 years ago should be denied gainful employment according to you? Well, OK. Then don’t bitch when they’re on government assistance because they can’t get a job.

        • January 21, 2014 at 11:21 am
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          If its a Juvie record, its sealed at 18… At least in IL.

        • January 21, 2014 at 11:23 am
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          Record may be sealed, but unless file is expunged, it could still show up as a hit on the database.

          • January 21, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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            True on that point. A misdemeanor usually don’t have any affect on employment especially if its a Juvie record.

            Anyways, read this to illustrate a point:
            http://www.ijreview.com/2014/01/107990-story-prof-fails-entire-class-illustrate-obamas-socialism-left-furious/

            Its not even a true story and the libs are pissed about it. So much for free speech under ofnBama.

          • January 22, 2014 at 9:14 am
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            FFA – I agree with the moral of that story. I’m not a socialist.

          • January 22, 2014 at 10:40 am
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            Well Libby, you can see that. Why Cant ofnbama? You have more common sense then he does.

  • January 22, 2014 at 10:35 am
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    Fox News reported this week that IL has the 4th highest unemployment rate in the nation. The line is getting longer as we are losing 1500 jobs with Office Max pulling out. Sears has announced they are closing the Flag Ship Store in Down Town Chicago. No number of how many employees are losing their jobs.
    The reason for the high unemployment rate was two fold. State Farm has not announced how many people will be unemployed after they execute their pull out. Manufacturing in particular was the hardest hit industry as plants continue to move out of state due to high property taxes and out of this world high Workers Comp insurance. More Short Sited ness on behalf of the Gov. When he passed Workers Comp Reform he completely ignored Tort Reform.

    Sound familiar?



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