The governor should repeal the helmet law. Morons deserve to be maimed and killed by their own stupidity. If they don’t give a damn about their owns safety why should anybody else?
Yes….repeal the law by all means…..But they need to add a provision for motorcyclists to carry a bucket instead of a helmet so emergency personnel have something to scoop up what matter would have been protected by a helmet.
Doesn’t every state have a seat belt law for cars? Why should motorcycle riders be exempt from saftey procedures? Remember the basic tenet of insurance law, what would a reasonably prudent man do?
Great, a motorcyclist pulls out infront of an on coming car and is hit. Said motorcyclist flies off of the bike bumps his head and dies. Family of said motorcylist sues driver of car for millions because of the death, which might have been prevented by wearing a helmet. Why should the driver of the car pay for the motorcyclists stupidity (both for not wearing a helmet and for pulling out right infront of oncoming traffic)? And be real, the driver of the car WOULD lose this case even if it were proven without a doubt the use of a helmet would have saved the motorcyclist’s life.
Yes! America and independence. And since nothing preys on the idiots and the stupid (like something much bigger, where they might be eaten for a meal) then let their stupidity and own lack of self preserverence doom their chance of survival and thus improve the gene pool of the human race in the long run. I do agree that part of the repeal should be immunity from lawsuits for the other party involved, in what becomes a fatal motorcyle accident – that should be a no brainer – kind of like wearing a helmut – who needs a law for that anyway?
But officer, how do you expect me to notice that little old biker when I’m trying to get this text sent, and…and my mp3 player just wont play the right song, and…and I dropped my organic veggie wrap in my lap and and… Golly, why do I have to pay higher taxes for someone else’s problems?
Exerpt from the “ususal” accident scene. Did you all know that 90% of motorcycle accidents (injury & death) are caused by, oooh here it comes, 4 wheeled VEHICLES!!
Oh, I forgot helmets are supposed to protect me when I am hit by a half ton of metal moving 65mph.
I am not a low life biker on welfare, I am a productive member of my community and I do have rights, one of them is to choose.
Thank you, Helmut, for having the only reasonable, insurance-related view on this topic. Let’s also not forget the increase in life insurance premiums we’ll all share when policies start paying out for the rise in motorcycle rider deaths.
For every “right” there is a corresponding “responsibility”. I agree, nobody should be forced to wear/use safety equipment to reduce or prevent serious injury or death. That’s their “right”. Having said that, let’s talk about the “responsibility”. If they’re in a fatal accident……there’s no issue. However, if they sustain injuries that could have been mitigated or prevented by the use of helmets or seatbelts, it should be THEIR REPONSIBILITY to deal with the results including the increased cost of their medical treatment and disability. IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY !!!!! That’s the only real issue here. I don’t want to pay for their bad decisions/choice, and they deserve no sympathy for placing “rights” above common sense.
Is that 90% caused or 90% involving? Just yesterday I was on a highway heading home and a motorcyclist came driving up inbetween the lanes and inbetween cars. I see this almost every day during the summer. If this person is hit, is it the fault of the person in the car or the idiot on the motorcycle? In the current culture it is almost always blamed on the person in the car,regardless of the behavior of the motorcyclist. I knew a family who’s son died in a motorcyle accident. He pulled right out infront of a car at the last minute. The driver of the car had no chance to react in a timely manner and hit the guy. Everyone blamed the driver of the car…why? Doesn’t the motorcyclist have responsibility for his safety?
I commend motorcyclists who drive safely and take necessary safety precautions. But, so many don’t and then blame the driver of the car for the accident.
i agree. i drive to work through a tunnel as well. i have seen some of these mcyclist who sometimes do a quick speed up for the thrill of hearing their engine. i have seen a guy who kept looking back for a cop and then pop a wheelie. but i look this in 2-fold, 1) first of all, that cyclist is responsible for his own safety as taught in the safety course. he can’t be seen or heard many times because of his size of his vehicle and the maneuverability. 2) it only takes a few bad apples to shine the light on all cyclists. i know this is true because they do the same w/the 18-wheelers. i used to drive those for 7 yrs OTR.
There are certain circumstances where a motorcycle helmet is NOT a good idea. ALL helmets (including skull cap type helmets) obscure vision, obscure hearing (or create wind noise that obscures hearing). As a 40 year veteran motorcycle owner, having owned more than 30 different motorcycles, I know that in low to moderate speed situations, I can hear children playing nearby, hear dogs barking that might need my attention (motorcycle chasers), hear traffic approaching from behind or from behind in an adjacent lane, and SEE ALL THESE THINGS BETTER. Senses are all a motorcyclist has to be responsive to traffic situations, and it is insurance companies that beat the drum for helmet laws. I don’t mind paying a few more dollars (be realistic about overstating increased risk, for pete’s sake!!!) to have the right to drive with my senses unobscured. As far as organs doner comments and fatality statistic mongers go, it is called natural selection. Wear your helmet if you want to. Don’t tell me to wear one!!! It is ABOUT TIME Missouri joins the 30 other states in the Union that allows ADULTS to make this decision. Besides, the added “risk” amounts to less than a dollar across the insurance pool on an individual basis. Stop exagerating the “risk” or “cost”.
Ok Ummm. I have no problem with that as long as you waive any right to collect insurance of any kind for head injuries due to your choice. Waive any right to sue for injuries to your thick skull due to your choice. As someone who is alive due to my helmet, I have a choice to think you are making a very poor choice. Yes, the accident that I had was the fault of someone driving a pickup, not mine, but my life would have been over regardless of who caused the accident. Choice is fine, as long as your choice only affects you, but it doesn’t, not by a long shot.
ok, if we allow them the choice of no helmets, you might as well, do the same for option to wear a seatbelt. if those folks do get in accident and their injuries could have been lessened by having safety devices, then the insurance the driver should not be held for the cost difference. safety should be number 1!
Umm: It is 90% because there are many more four-wheeled vehicles on the road than motorcycles. Cars and trucks make up almost 98% of the vehicles on the road.
The governor should repeal the helmet law. Morons deserve to be maimed and killed by their own stupidity. If they don’t give a damn about their owns safety why should anybody else?
Yes….repeal the law by all means…..But they need to add a provision for motorcyclists to carry a bucket instead of a helmet so emergency personnel have something to scoop up what matter would have been protected by a helmet.
Not just helmets but seat belt laws as well. It should be an individuals choice. This is America and we don’t need any more freedoms taken away.
We are slowly loosing the America we all know and love thanks to government.
Doesn’t every state have a seat belt law for cars? Why should motorcycle riders be exempt from saftey procedures? Remember the basic tenet of insurance law, what would a reasonably prudent man do?
Great, a motorcyclist pulls out infront of an on coming car and is hit. Said motorcyclist flies off of the bike bumps his head and dies. Family of said motorcylist sues driver of car for millions because of the death, which might have been prevented by wearing a helmet. Why should the driver of the car pay for the motorcyclists stupidity (both for not wearing a helmet and for pulling out right infront of oncoming traffic)? And be real, the driver of the car WOULD lose this case even if it were proven without a doubt the use of a helmet would have saved the motorcyclist’s life.
Yes! America and independence. And since nothing preys on the idiots and the stupid (like something much bigger, where they might be eaten for a meal) then let their stupidity and own lack of self preserverence doom their chance of survival and thus improve the gene pool of the human race in the long run. I do agree that part of the repeal should be immunity from lawsuits for the other party involved, in what becomes a fatal motorcyle accident – that should be a no brainer – kind of like wearing a helmut – who needs a law for that anyway?
But officer, how do you expect me to notice that little old biker when I’m trying to get this text sent, and…and my mp3 player just wont play the right song, and…and I dropped my organic veggie wrap in my lap and and… Golly, why do I have to pay higher taxes for someone else’s problems?
Exerpt from the “ususal” accident scene. Did you all know that 90% of motorcycle accidents (injury & death) are caused by, oooh here it comes, 4 wheeled VEHICLES!!
Oh, I forgot helmets are supposed to protect me when I am hit by a half ton of metal moving 65mph.
I am not a low life biker on welfare, I am a productive member of my community and I do have rights, one of them is to choose.
Thank you, Helmut, for having the only reasonable, insurance-related view on this topic. Let’s also not forget the increase in life insurance premiums we’ll all share when policies start paying out for the rise in motorcycle rider deaths.
For every “right” there is a corresponding “responsibility”. I agree, nobody should be forced to wear/use safety equipment to reduce or prevent serious injury or death. That’s their “right”. Having said that, let’s talk about the “responsibility”. If they’re in a fatal accident……there’s no issue. However, if they sustain injuries that could have been mitigated or prevented by the use of helmets or seatbelts, it should be THEIR REPONSIBILITY to deal with the results including the increased cost of their medical treatment and disability. IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY !!!!! That’s the only real issue here. I don’t want to pay for their bad decisions/choice, and they deserve no sympathy for placing “rights” above common sense.
Is that 90% caused or 90% involving? Just yesterday I was on a highway heading home and a motorcyclist came driving up inbetween the lanes and inbetween cars. I see this almost every day during the summer. If this person is hit, is it the fault of the person in the car or the idiot on the motorcycle? In the current culture it is almost always blamed on the person in the car,regardless of the behavior of the motorcyclist. I knew a family who’s son died in a motorcyle accident. He pulled right out infront of a car at the last minute. The driver of the car had no chance to react in a timely manner and hit the guy. Everyone blamed the driver of the car…why? Doesn’t the motorcyclist have responsibility for his safety?
I commend motorcyclists who drive safely and take necessary safety precautions. But, so many don’t and then blame the driver of the car for the accident.
i agree. i drive to work through a tunnel as well. i have seen some of these mcyclist who sometimes do a quick speed up for the thrill of hearing their engine. i have seen a guy who kept looking back for a cop and then pop a wheelie. but i look this in 2-fold, 1) first of all, that cyclist is responsible for his own safety as taught in the safety course. he can’t be seen or heard many times because of his size of his vehicle and the maneuverability. 2) it only takes a few bad apples to shine the light on all cyclists. i know this is true because they do the same w/the 18-wheelers. i used to drive those for 7 yrs OTR.
There are certain circumstances where a motorcycle helmet is NOT a good idea. ALL helmets (including skull cap type helmets) obscure vision, obscure hearing (or create wind noise that obscures hearing). As a 40 year veteran motorcycle owner, having owned more than 30 different motorcycles, I know that in low to moderate speed situations, I can hear children playing nearby, hear dogs barking that might need my attention (motorcycle chasers), hear traffic approaching from behind or from behind in an adjacent lane, and SEE ALL THESE THINGS BETTER. Senses are all a motorcyclist has to be responsive to traffic situations, and it is insurance companies that beat the drum for helmet laws. I don’t mind paying a few more dollars (be realistic about overstating increased risk, for pete’s sake!!!) to have the right to drive with my senses unobscured. As far as organs doner comments and fatality statistic mongers go, it is called natural selection. Wear your helmet if you want to. Don’t tell me to wear one!!! It is ABOUT TIME Missouri joins the 30 other states in the Union that allows ADULTS to make this decision. Besides, the added “risk” amounts to less than a dollar across the insurance pool on an individual basis. Stop exagerating the “risk” or “cost”.
Ok Ummm. I have no problem with that as long as you waive any right to collect insurance of any kind for head injuries due to your choice. Waive any right to sue for injuries to your thick skull due to your choice. As someone who is alive due to my helmet, I have a choice to think you are making a very poor choice. Yes, the accident that I had was the fault of someone driving a pickup, not mine, but my life would have been over regardless of who caused the accident. Choice is fine, as long as your choice only affects you, but it doesn’t, not by a long shot.
ok, if we allow them the choice of no helmets, you might as well, do the same for option to wear a seatbelt. if those folks do get in accident and their injuries could have been lessened by having safety devices, then the insurance the driver should not be held for the cost difference. safety should be number 1!
Umm: It is 90% because there are many more four-wheeled vehicles on the road than motorcycles. Cars and trucks make up almost 98% of the vehicles on the road.
when does new helmet law for mo go into effect. heard on radio aug.21st. want to comfirm.thx.