Let me get this straight. The Republicans have had 7+ years to formulated an outline for their replacement of the PPACA, 2 1/2 months to refine the plan knowing they maintained their majorities Congress and now had a Republican President just itching to sign it, 9 months in control and they could not even convince the members of their party of how great it is? If it was 1/2 as great as they have been telling us, I would imagine they might even get a few moderate Democrats to vote for it.
Sounds like we are back to the drawing board and, thankfully, this time it will have to be a bi-partisan solution that follows the proper legislative rules.
Less than the current elapsed time is *exactly* the correct answer. People who are for repeal can’t campaign on it for that long and not have a coherent plan on how to do it without facing derision. They are acting on promises long since obsolete as the majority of the country came to support the system (or at least support it more than the Republican alternatives so far).
Yes. Because they were told if their daddy government didn’t handle it people would die and not get care.
Your side does a good job of squashing opposition and deflecting from their own deficiencies. While I know you will then say so do republicans, no. After much review of this repeal and replacement, it is a good step. A VERY good step, considering the avenue taken to pass it.
They simply don’t have the votes due to your side. Repealing the ACA will be better than having it, and moving toward market based solutions will help.
They can’t add to the deficit, which means no vouchers or similar type system, but we can address that separately.
If it were spelled out to several of the key players, the most stubborn Republicans would see the repeal alone would then set the stage for meaningful legislation to aid the private insurance industry to fix the costs and coverages issues. The latter would occur via increased market freedom through reduced / modified regulations.
September 26, 2017 at 11:23 am
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Thank you for focusing on the least important part of my post.
The true intent of my post was to point out that, assuming the Republicans had a grand replacement that would improve coverage and reduce premiums, as they said they did, they had plenty of time to have it passed and signed by President Trump by now.
The Republicans keep proving me right that they have no interest in governing, only complaining.
The ‘no’ votes include McCain reneging on his campaign pledge.
The delay is not a big deal, but you continually TRY to make it so.
The ‘grand plan’ you mention now is to be RE-determined due to a few RINOs working OUTSIDE the Republican tent to upset the original plan. The RINOs and Butt-hurt McCain will be allowed to move the plan toward ACA-lite, time and again. I project the ACA will fail in the end cycle of the current Death Spiral before it is repealed. The net result of the 2018 Senate Elections will be a gain of about 5 seats for the Republicans, which will neutralize the 3 RINOs ‘no’ votes.
“If it was 1/2 as great as they have been telling us, I would imagine they might even get a few moderate Democrats to vote for it.”
This is a patently absurd assertion. There are inconceivable differences between democrats and republicans. Democrats insist on spending more on healthcare, republicans insist on vouchers, shopping, and market based solutions. As an example: The ER visits I just mentioned are skyrocketing under Medicaid where people are over charged, allowing grants may be less “federal funding” but it is not less care. This means maybe you get $5,000 of government support now instead of $10,000 without shopping, but that care you need might just cost $2,000 if you do. This is not uncommon. It occurred with shopping out the birth of my child, it occurs with shopping dentistry, to the tune of paying half, it occurs in the area of clinics in many areas. You can not reconcile the liberal and conservative differences here. Paul Ryan knew this and it is why even in Medicare he advocates vouchers. A set amount results in thoughtlessness in your healthcare spending which helps no one. Vouchers encourage you to shop around.
“Sounds like we are back to the drawing board and, thankfully, this time it will have to be a bi-partisan solution that follows the proper legislative rules.”
They were following reconciliation rules, they were not breaking any rules. There is not bi partisan solution on this one. We need to eventually try the republican route. You are completely adverse to it, despite no nation doing it. Stop mocking republicans, stop the cliché lines, and let them get something passed.
“It makes sweeping cuts and changes in the Medicaid program, which is a vital program for our low-income, vulnerable citizens, including disabled children and low-income seniors,” she told reporters Monday evening, adding that President Donald Trump and senior members of his administration had tried to woo her over the weekend.”
Sue is a voice of logic and reason. And, I’m so old I remember when Republicans were complaining about backroom deals. I imagine some of you out here who complained several years back are just livid right now to know your own party and this “president” are behaving in similar fashion.
Polar, there is no guarantee that new Congressional representatives will be any more compliant than the prior ones. In fact, new representatives are very often less in step with the party line than the seasoned ones they replace.
The only hope would be that Republicans have a sweeping victory to get themselves to a super-majority or they are able to propose some new plan.
The same characters are showing up each time. Poor cancer stricken McCain will be the first to go and then maybe that vote will be freed up. By the way, ACA is a cancer in the brain of America. Needs to say bye, bye.
Yes, let’s wish death on a veteran who gave his life for our country and is now stricken with terminal brain cancer. Then, complain about “patriotism” when some take a knee in protest of violence against minorities. I think Alanis Morissette wrote a song about this…
So you don’t believe that McCain’s cancer has impaired his judgment? Wow, amazing. By the way, Ray Charles made a great song many years ago called – Hit the road Jack and don’t you come back no more, no more, no more.
September 26, 2017 at 10:44 pm
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Ray would be kneeling with the pro athletes. Again, back to the Alanis song…
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I’m so old, I remember when Republicans were in full support of this “maverick” even after he chose perhaps the biggest nit-wit in all of political history as a running mate. Now, they are wishing death to this war hero. Unbelievable!
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Veiled wishes will be unveiled:
“Poor cancer stricken McCain will be the first to go and then maybe that vote will be freed up.”
So, Agent doesn’t want John to go so that vote can be freed up? HA! Calling you out, Tadly!
September 28, 2017 at 2:47 pm
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Reading that post by Agent doesn’t lead me to think he WISHED ill upon him, but rather, pointed to the likely outcome… there is a small chance of survival of his cancer.
But, continue to lie so I can continue to point out your twisted, Straw Man Argument interpretations of other people’s comments.
September 28, 2017 at 3:19 pm
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While I agree with Polar that Agent did not overtly wish him dead, it is difficult not to assume that his death is something Agent is looking forward to, from a political standpoint. Not sure how else to interpret, “then maybe that vote will be freed up.”.
Why would any normal, compassionate person politicize a terminal illness?
September 28, 2017 at 6:23 pm
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@Ron; I think you’re partly right. I doubt Agent is wishing for his death for political purposes. The inevitable result looks bleak for McCain according to… McCain – a few days ago.
I’m not interested in these rabbit hole arguments by posters intent only on censoring others, or discrediting them, or insulting them, when others disagree with them.
I prefer to stick to the topic of the article, and am ashamed I let myself get off track on this thread.
So, where do I think the ACA is headed? For the inevitable end that was designed by the DEMS in 2009 to lead to calls on the left for Single Delayer, er, Single Slayer, er, Single Payer Health Care. But they miscalculated that 2016 Election thingy.
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Yeah, I heard Rush say the same thing about single payer, Yogi. He said it on the radio just yesterday. Problem is, that isn’t true. Doesn’t matter, makes for a nice 8 second soundbite that can be repeated, even on Insurance Journal forums.
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Okay, Yogi, the word “wishing” is too strong. But, I am willing to bet most on the right will not be mourning the death of this war hero, they’ll be hoping the newbie will be voting in lock step. After all, we like those war heroes who weren’t captured, right? Now, let’s all go make fun of some disabled people!
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And Agent forgot a “no more” from the song. There are 4 no mores. Just like the number of votes he hoped to have today.
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Polar,
On behalf of my other moderate GOP members, all we ask is that the GOP lead on this issue. Stop whining about what happened and move forward by reaching across the aisle, open it up for discussion and put something in place that works. Not too much to ask for a representative that is getting paid with my hard earned tax dollars. Just lead!
CalDude, Democrats say they will reach across the aisle to work with Republicans to fix this mess, but the only thing they offer is Single Payer which is dead in the water. Sorry, we don’t want even a bigger bureaucracy and see our taxes go even higher than they are now. Chucky Schmucky, put a plan forward and see if you can get any traction.
Not sure there’s a better answer across the isle either. The Dems don’t have a better plan. Trump needs to lead by handpicking 10-15 of the brightest Dems and Reps, putting them up in one of his resorts, give them access to the best industry veterans, and tell them they can’t leave until they have a plan we can all live with. Of course it will always come back to: health care is expensive, doctors want budge on their pay checks, diseases & accidents span all income brackets, nobody wants to pay for it, and no one wants their loved one to go without the best care possible.
SW, I have heard your refrain dozens of times in the past. The thing is, Obamacare is not the Health Plan America wants and no one is going to be satisfied with every single thing. Cruz, Paul and a few others need to get on board with something that will be better than the worst legislation ever passed. No Democrat will ever sign onto anything that is against their agenda.
Soory; if you have to identify yourself as a GOP member, you’re likely a Democrat acting as a Republican to try to convince Republicans to think like a Democrat. It’s one of the many tricks Dems use to persuade gullible Republicans to think like a clueless Libitteral.
There will be NO reaching across the aisle because Democrats have NO PLAN to fix ANYTHING regarding govt involvement in citizens’ freedom to choose how to live their lives.
I can’t believe that the Republican Party cannot find better candidates in Arizona, Maine, and Kentucky than these grandstanders. All I remember is McCain pounding a podium and screeching about Repeal and Replace. Now, the PPACA is in a death spiral, and at least three RINOs are going to stop the Republicans from both repealing and replacing. Doubting that any of them even sent a card to Steve Scalise.
Those four will be gone after their term in office ends. The Tea Party landslide in 2010 showed how Republicans are quick to recognize and oust RINOs and traitors to their conservative principles.
The fact they are now on record as opposed to repeal, TWICE, will prove fatal to their political career.
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Hi CT. I am sure you remember the now infamous Allen Grayson (D-FL) who got up in front of the House of Representatives and screamed at the top of his lungs and proclaimed – Here is the Republican Plan for Healthcare. It is DIE! That didn’t seem to go over very well in his Florida District and he lost in a landslide in the Mid Terms. Everybody on the left seems to discount what happened in the Shellacking of 10 which was the biggest in 40 years. Those same voters are still around and are motivated to even a bigger degree since the country is in more trouble now than then. With the prospect of Sequestration on the budget, higher taxes for all citizens, Obamacare on the horizen including all their new taxes, robbing Medicare for $716 Billion, I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney. Planet & Libby can drink all the Koolaid they have left and listen to the left wing polls and websites and it won’t change how the people think or vote next week.”
No hyperbole, no lies, we’ll leave that to the guy in The Oval and those who support him.
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“I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney. Planet & Libby can drink all the Koolaid they have left and listen to the left wing polls and websites and it won’t change how the people think or vote next week.”
No word “if” in there – and this isn’t the only forum he predicted Romney in a landslide. Perhaps you weren’t around trolling back then.
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You read the wrong post. Let me quote one of Agent’s posts within that link:
“With the prospect of Sequestration on the budget, higher taxes for all citizens, Obamacare on the horizen [sic] including all their new taxes, robbing Medicare for $716 Billion, I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney.”
You asked, I delivered.
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Again; another rabbit hole some were led into.
What does the 2012 Election have to do with this thread?
Finally, the “I think” preceding the landslide comment mens there isn’t a forecast with certainty.
You and Ron are frustrated ‘Libittrolls’ who support a party now completely out of power, and you’re trying to discredit people rather than debate the subject.
I repeat; what do the 2012 Election predictions to which I reacted in response to their mention in your post have to do with the subject of the article?
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Let’s do the ole timeline:
1. You made a prediction, “Those four will be gone after their term in office ends.”
2. Captain Planet referenced a past electoral prediction from the right that did not come to fruition, “Yep, and Romney wins in a landslide…got it!”
3. You asked, “Who on this board said such a thing, ever?”
4. Captain Planet and I each answered your question, with cited source.
Now you are wondering why we answered your question.
Troll
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1. You started this whole mess.
2. Agent’s prediction was made one week before the election. All of the conditions would have had to already happened in order to influence voters.
3. Just admit that what Captain Planet said was accurate and you should not have challenged him.
4. Nobody needs to put forth any effort to discredit you. You have done that yourself.
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Captain, if you examine the sentence: “The Tea Party landslide in 2010 showed how Republicans are quick to recognize and oust RINOs and traitors to their conservative principles,” you will find that the Tea Party are not actually Republicans so ousting RINO’s just means that they are not Tea Party members — or that they can organize for that matter. They are just whack jobs in a time warp that will soon see the end of their days.
Amen, Celtica. That voting populous demographic isn’t getting any younger. Heck, some might even be a victim in the next election of the same voting suppression they supported in the last election. “What a drag it is getting old…”
I was responding to your question why “it hasn’t happened yet” regarding liberal’s continuously wrong prediction that “the aging population of the US will die out.”
Let me get this straight. The Republicans have had 7+ years to formulated an outline for their replacement of the PPACA, 2 1/2 months to refine the plan knowing they maintained their majorities Congress and now had a Republican President just itching to sign it, 9 months in control and they could not even convince the members of their party of how great it is? If it was 1/2 as great as they have been telling us, I would imagine they might even get a few moderate Democrats to vote for it.
Sounds like we are back to the drawing board and, thankfully, this time it will have to be a bi-partisan solution that follows the proper legislative rules.
What’s the proper timeframe for fixing a hyuuuge mess called ACA?
I assume you will reply with a time LESS THAN the current elapsed time.
Surprise me.
Less than the current elapsed time is *exactly* the correct answer. People who are for repeal can’t campaign on it for that long and not have a coherent plan on how to do it without facing derision. They are acting on promises long since obsolete as the majority of the country came to support the system (or at least support it more than the Republican alternatives so far).
Yes. Because they were told if their daddy government didn’t handle it people would die and not get care.
Your side does a good job of squashing opposition and deflecting from their own deficiencies. While I know you will then say so do republicans, no. After much review of this repeal and replacement, it is a good step. A VERY good step, considering the avenue taken to pass it.
They simply don’t have the votes due to your side. Repealing the ACA will be better than having it, and moving toward market based solutions will help.
They can’t add to the deficit, which means no vouchers or similar type system, but we can address that separately.
If it were spelled out to several of the key players, the most stubborn Republicans would see the repeal alone would then set the stage for meaningful legislation to aid the private insurance industry to fix the costs and coverages issues. The latter would occur via increased market freedom through reduced / modified regulations.
Thank you for focusing on the least important part of my post.
The true intent of my post was to point out that, assuming the Republicans had a grand replacement that would improve coverage and reduce premiums, as they said they did, they had plenty of time to have it passed and signed by President Trump by now.
The Republicans keep proving me right that they have no interest in governing, only complaining.
The ‘no’ votes include McCain reneging on his campaign pledge.
The delay is not a big deal, but you continually TRY to make it so.
The ‘grand plan’ you mention now is to be RE-determined due to a few RINOs working OUTSIDE the Republican tent to upset the original plan. The RINOs and Butt-hurt McCain will be allowed to move the plan toward ACA-lite, time and again. I project the ACA will fail in the end cycle of the current Death Spiral before it is repealed. The net result of the 2018 Senate Elections will be a gain of about 5 seats for the Republicans, which will neutralize the 3 RINOs ‘no’ votes.
“If it was 1/2 as great as they have been telling us, I would imagine they might even get a few moderate Democrats to vote for it.”
This is a patently absurd assertion. There are inconceivable differences between democrats and republicans. Democrats insist on spending more on healthcare, republicans insist on vouchers, shopping, and market based solutions. As an example: The ER visits I just mentioned are skyrocketing under Medicaid where people are over charged, allowing grants may be less “federal funding” but it is not less care. This means maybe you get $5,000 of government support now instead of $10,000 without shopping, but that care you need might just cost $2,000 if you do. This is not uncommon. It occurred with shopping out the birth of my child, it occurs with shopping dentistry, to the tune of paying half, it occurs in the area of clinics in many areas. You can not reconcile the liberal and conservative differences here. Paul Ryan knew this and it is why even in Medicare he advocates vouchers. A set amount results in thoughtlessness in your healthcare spending which helps no one. Vouchers encourage you to shop around.
“Sounds like we are back to the drawing board and, thankfully, this time it will have to be a bi-partisan solution that follows the proper legislative rules.”
They were following reconciliation rules, they were not breaking any rules. There is not bi partisan solution on this one. We need to eventually try the republican route. You are completely adverse to it, despite no nation doing it. Stop mocking republicans, stop the cliché lines, and let them get something passed.
“It makes sweeping cuts and changes in the Medicaid program, which is a vital program for our low-income, vulnerable citizens, including disabled children and low-income seniors,” she told reporters Monday evening, adding that President Donald Trump and senior members of his administration had tried to woo her over the weekend.”
Sue is a voice of logic and reason. And, I’m so old I remember when Republicans were complaining about backroom deals. I imagine some of you out here who complained several years back are just livid right now to know your own party and this “president” are behaving in similar fashion.
Proper levels of Medicaid are desired, not wasteful levels.
RINOs will be pushed aside upon their next re-election bid.
It’s only a matter of about 16 months (next Congress is seated) until ACA is gone.
Polar, there is no guarantee that new Congressional representatives will be any more compliant than the prior ones. In fact, new representatives are very often less in step with the party line than the seasoned ones they replace.
The only hope would be that Republicans have a sweeping victory to get themselves to a super-majority or they are able to propose some new plan.
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Yes, let’s wish death on a veteran who gave his life for our country and is now stricken with terminal brain cancer. Then, complain about “patriotism” when some take a knee in protest of violence against minorities. I think Alanis Morissette wrote a song about this…
So you don’t believe that McCain’s cancer has impaired his judgment? Wow, amazing. By the way, Ray Charles made a great song many years ago called – Hit the road Jack and don’t you come back no more, no more, no more.
Ray would be kneeling with the pro athletes. Again, back to the Alanis song…
I’m so old, I remember when Republicans were in full support of this “maverick” even after he chose perhaps the biggest nit-wit in all of political history as a running mate. Now, they are wishing death to this war hero. Unbelievable!
PolarBe-yotch
Veiled wishes will be unveiled:
“Poor cancer stricken McCain will be the first to go and then maybe that vote will be freed up.”
So, Agent doesn’t want John to go so that vote can be freed up? HA! Calling you out, Tadly!
Reading that post by Agent doesn’t lead me to think he WISHED ill upon him, but rather, pointed to the likely outcome… there is a small chance of survival of his cancer.
But, continue to lie so I can continue to point out your twisted, Straw Man Argument interpretations of other people’s comments.
While I agree with Polar that Agent did not overtly wish him dead, it is difficult not to assume that his death is something Agent is looking forward to, from a political standpoint. Not sure how else to interpret, “then maybe that vote will be freed up.”.
Why would any normal, compassionate person politicize a terminal illness?
@Ron; I think you’re partly right. I doubt Agent is wishing for his death for political purposes. The inevitable result looks bleak for McCain according to… McCain – a few days ago.
I’m not interested in these rabbit hole arguments by posters intent only on censoring others, or discrediting them, or insulting them, when others disagree with them.
I prefer to stick to the topic of the article, and am ashamed I let myself get off track on this thread.
So, where do I think the ACA is headed? For the inevitable end that was designed by the DEMS in 2009 to lead to calls on the left for Single Delayer, er, Single Slayer, er, Single Payer Health Care. But they miscalculated that 2016 Election thingy.
Yeah, I heard Rush say the same thing about single payer, Yogi. He said it on the radio just yesterday. Problem is, that isn’t true. Doesn’t matter, makes for a nice 8 second soundbite that can be repeated, even on Insurance Journal forums.
Okay, Yogi, the word “wishing” is too strong. But, I am willing to bet most on the right will not be mourning the death of this war hero, they’ll be hoping the newbie will be voting in lock step. After all, we like those war heroes who weren’t captured, right? Now, let’s all go make fun of some disabled people!
And Agent forgot a “no more” from the song. There are 4 no mores. Just like the number of votes he hoped to have today.
Polar,
On behalf of my other moderate GOP members, all we ask is that the GOP lead on this issue. Stop whining about what happened and move forward by reaching across the aisle, open it up for discussion and put something in place that works. Not too much to ask for a representative that is getting paid with my hard earned tax dollars. Just lead!
CalDude, Democrats say they will reach across the aisle to work with Republicans to fix this mess, but the only thing they offer is Single Payer which is dead in the water. Sorry, we don’t want even a bigger bureaucracy and see our taxes go even higher than they are now. Chucky Schmucky, put a plan forward and see if you can get any traction.
Not sure there’s a better answer across the isle either. The Dems don’t have a better plan. Trump needs to lead by handpicking 10-15 of the brightest Dems and Reps, putting them up in one of his resorts, give them access to the best industry veterans, and tell them they can’t leave until they have a plan we can all live with. Of course it will always come back to: health care is expensive, doctors want budge on their pay checks, diseases & accidents span all income brackets, nobody wants to pay for it, and no one wants their loved one to go without the best care possible.
SW, I have heard your refrain dozens of times in the past. The thing is, Obamacare is not the Health Plan America wants and no one is going to be satisfied with every single thing. Cruz, Paul and a few others need to get on board with something that will be better than the worst legislation ever passed. No Democrat will ever sign onto anything that is against their agenda.
Soory; if you have to identify yourself as a GOP member, you’re likely a Democrat acting as a Republican to try to convince Republicans to think like a Democrat. It’s one of the many tricks Dems use to persuade gullible Republicans to think like a clueless Libitteral.
There will be NO reaching across the aisle because Democrats have NO PLAN to fix ANYTHING regarding govt involvement in citizens’ freedom to choose how to live their lives.
I can’t believe that the Republican Party cannot find better candidates in Arizona, Maine, and Kentucky than these grandstanders. All I remember is McCain pounding a podium and screeching about Repeal and Replace. Now, the PPACA is in a death spiral, and at least three RINOs are going to stop the Republicans from both repealing and replacing. Doubting that any of them even sent a card to Steve Scalise.
Yogi or Agent in disguise yet again. I love you guys!
Those four will be gone after their term in office ends. The Tea Party landslide in 2010 showed how Republicans are quick to recognize and oust RINOs and traitors to their conservative principles.
The fact they are now on record as opposed to repeal, TWICE, will prove fatal to their political career.
Yep, and Romney wins in a landslide…got it!
Who on this board said such a thing, ever?
Hyperbole and lies are the tools of fools who don’t have facts on their side.
“Who on this board said such a thing, ever?”
Agent
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Oh SNAP!
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Hi CT. I am sure you remember the now infamous Allen Grayson (D-FL) who got up in front of the House of Representatives and screamed at the top of his lungs and proclaimed – Here is the Republican Plan for Healthcare. It is DIE! That didn’t seem to go over very well in his Florida District and he lost in a landslide in the Mid Terms. Everybody on the left seems to discount what happened in the Shellacking of 10 which was the biggest in 40 years. Those same voters are still around and are motivated to even a bigger degree since the country is in more trouble now than then. With the prospect of Sequestration on the budget, higher taxes for all citizens, Obamacare on the horizen including all their new taxes, robbing Medicare for $716 Billion, I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney. Planet & Libby can drink all the Koolaid they have left and listen to the left wing polls and websites and it won’t change how the people think or vote next week.”
No hyperbole, no lies, we’ll leave that to the guy in The Oval and those who support him.
“I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney. Planet & Libby can drink all the Koolaid they have left and listen to the left wing polls and websites and it won’t change how the people think or vote next week.”
No word “if” in there – and this isn’t the only forum he predicted Romney in a landslide. Perhaps you weren’t around trolling back then.
You read the wrong post. Let me quote one of Agent’s posts within that link:
“With the prospect of Sequestration on the budget, higher taxes for all citizens, Obamacare on the horizen [sic] including all their new taxes, robbing Medicare for $716 Billion, I think we will end up with a landslide for Romney.”
You asked, I delivered.
Again; another rabbit hole some were led into.
What does the 2012 Election have to do with this thread?
Finally, the “I think” preceding the landslide comment mens there isn’t a forecast with certainty.
You and Ron are frustrated ‘Libittrolls’ who support a party now completely out of power, and you’re trying to discredit people rather than debate the subject.
I repeat; what do the 2012 Election predictions to which I reacted in response to their mention in your post have to do with the subject of the article?
Polar,
Let’s do the ole timeline:
1. You made a prediction, “Those four will be gone after their term in office ends.”
2. Captain Planet referenced a past electoral prediction from the right that did not come to fruition, “Yep, and Romney wins in a landslide…got it!”
3. You asked, “Who on this board said such a thing, ever?”
4. Captain Planet and I each answered your question, with cited source.
Now you are wondering why we answered your question.
Troll
1. You started this whole mess.
2. Agent’s prediction was made one week before the election. All of the conditions would have had to already happened in order to influence voters.
3. Just admit that what Captain Planet said was accurate and you should not have challenged him.
4. Nobody needs to put forth any effort to discredit you. You have done that yourself.
Captain, if you examine the sentence: “The Tea Party landslide in 2010 showed how Republicans are quick to recognize and oust RINOs and traitors to their conservative principles,” you will find that the Tea Party are not actually Republicans so ousting RINO’s just means that they are not Tea Party members — or that they can organize for that matter. They are just whack jobs in a time warp that will soon see the end of their days.
Amen, Celtica. That voting populous demographic isn’t getting any younger. Heck, some might even be a victim in the next election of the same voting suppression they supported in the last election. “What a drag it is getting old…”
It takes decades for an entire generation to die off. Baby boomers will be around until ~2080. The majority of them aren’t dead yet genius.
I’m glad you cleared that up for Capt Confusion.
I was responding to your question why “it hasn’t happened yet” regarding liberal’s continuously wrong prediction that “the aging population of the US will die out.”
Reading comprehension, Yogi. Stay in school, kids!
Troll and Liar ? That would be the person you voted for, PolarTrumprepealbear…