Probation Sentence in Texas Teen’s Fatal DWI Wreck Stirs Ire

December 13, 2013
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  • December 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    uct says:
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    Had this been me, or more than likely any of you, we would be in prison. Who didn’t grow up in a family with a father who was strict or in a divorced household? Now murder is acceptable if your parents didn’t pamper you, even if you grew up rich?

    My dad took the belt out when I was in grade school. It taught me to NOT DO THESE THINGS. Thanks Mr. Judge, you’ve just shown an impressionable 16 year old kid that money is above the law. If it had been your family members he killed, you would have ruled differently.

    • December 13, 2013 at 3:09 pm
      Just A Mom says:
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      It is NOT his first run in. His parents want him to go to a rehab place in CA where he has been before…..Apparently it didn’t work the first time, why would we send him back there???

      Again, the parents have money and it is a shame that it can buy justice/injustice in this manner.

    • December 22, 2013 at 12:08 pm
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      You are certainly correct in your opinion “had it been her family member would her verdict be the same”? absolutely not!

  • December 13, 2013 at 1:27 pm
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    • December 13, 2013 at 1:39 pm
      Insurance 101 says:
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      Libby, You can call it whatever you want to call it. Four people are dead. Murder, homicide, whatever…it doesn’t change the fact that he killed four people. This wasn’t his first offense & he had been driving since he was 13, and had been caught stealing beer from Walmart that evening. He should be in prison.

      • December 13, 2013 at 2:47 pm
        Libby says:
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        101 – I did not see anywhere in that article that this was not his first offense or that he had been driving since he was 13. Also, he was not caught stealing the beer, he was caught on surveillance video – most likely viewed after the tragic accident. And yes, I called it an accident. That boy did not set out that night to run over and kill 4 people. He used poor judgement, had no supervision, and acted like a an immature kid – which is exactly what he is.

        I didn’t say I think he should have been set free or even that I agreed with the sentence. All I said was “murder” seemed a little harsh. In my mind, murder includes intent and there was no intent here. I think 10 years in prison would have been more appropriate.

    • December 13, 2013 at 1:57 pm
      Cheetoh Mulligan says:
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      His brain is developed, he may have just not used it for good judgment. 16 year olds know not to drink and drive. These kids also knew they were not supposed to have alcohol which is why they stole it. Money bought a better lawyer. I understand the judge trying to do best with the tools he had and at least got a 10 year probation deal in place. Hopefully it lasts for 10 years.

  • December 13, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    naksuthin says:
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    It starts out very innocently.
    Conservatives make the case that the top 1% of Americans are job creators and that reducing their taxes will eventually benefit us all.
    To defend that position they need to deflect the image of the rich as selfish spoiled greedy money grubbing capitalist and paint them as well meaning kind and generous benefactors who are hard working and earn every penny of their salary…even if that salary happens to be 300 times the amount earned by their employees.
    They are, after all, only getting to keep what they “earn”.
    And when the rich and the powerful make risky and often illegal bets and cause a collapse of our economic system, Conservatives rush to their defense claiming it was the government who failed to police them properly that allowed their actions to infect the entire economy. And a Conservative President rushes to their aid with 700 billion dollars to bail them out of the jam..while American middle class and poor homeowners lose their homes and life savings.
    And when a spoiled drunk rich kid kills some lowly hard working family in an auto accident, his 1% family rushes to his defense with a high paid lawyer who claims he was a victim of a disease called “Afluenza”
    What’s the penalty for killing 4 low class Americans? A year spent in a $450,000 country club rehab facility…complete with a 5 star dining facility. Where do the rest of us sign up.
    Yeah. Now we are starting to see what Conservative “trickle down” economics really looks like.

    • December 13, 2013 at 2:55 pm
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      Like I’ve said before, this is called Trickle Down Sodomy

    • December 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm
      Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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      Now his parents are going to need another well-deserved tax cut!

    • December 15, 2013 at 2:36 pm
      Captain Planet says:
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      Bravo, sir! You nailed it with this post. Don’t worry, we’ll just give it another 32 years, then it will start trickling down. Just keep flooding that money up. We are living in a country that has the largest wealth gap in the history of the world. But, hey, nothing to see here.

  • December 13, 2013 at 1:59 pm
    Cheetoh Mulligan says:
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    Here is what is wrong with our legal system: Which is worse: this kid and his friends getting drunk and killing 4 people, or the guy who helped the Jewish dude steal $7 million from a charity? The kid faced a 20 year sentenced while the helper faces 25 years.

  • December 13, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    Huh! says:
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    Parents need to discipline their children early on; unfortunately, many parents were not disciplined by their parents either, so the problem of irresponsibility continues. We cannot hold the parents responsible for the actions of their children indefinitely. At some point, the child must take responsibility for himself. I remember telling my parents “You taught me better; I chose to do it any way”. I didn’t kill or hurt anyone, but I deliberately chose to disregard what I had been taught. Ultimately, each one of us must take responsibility for the choices we make — good or bad.

  • December 13, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    Florida agent says:
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    Multiple felonies and he gets probation. Nice. It’s apparent that Judge does not care about the safety of other people. I guess it’s more important to keep the wealthy dad happy. I am sad to say the justice system fails us more than it protects us. I hope the terms of his probation keeps him in Texus…and I won’t be visiting TX any time soon! I hope his license has been permanently revoked for life.

    • December 13, 2013 at 2:35 pm
      Agent says:
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      Hey Florida, this could have happened in any state and there are sorry judges all over the place. They let rapists out with only a slap on the wrist to do it all over again. This judge should be removed and this kids parents should suffer some huge lawsuits. I understand this is not the first time for DUI for this kid and his parents keep buying him out of trouble. The kid should be admitted to a looney farm for an extended stay. Your condemnation of Texas is uncalled for. Florida has nothing to brag about. Your voters don’t even know how to vote and sent the wonderful Alan Grayson back to Congress so he can spew more vile hate.

      • December 15, 2013 at 2:49 pm
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        Agent,
        Just a question – why would you say Florda’s condemnation is uncalled for and immediately follow it up with your own condemnation of Florida? And, from my perspective, Florida voted just fine even despite the push to suppress the vote.

        • December 16, 2013 at 9:41 am
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          • December 16, 2013 at 3:38 pm
            Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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            Columbuan drug lords can influence our elections, thanks to Citizens United, and the republicans who helped bring about that boondoggle.

          • December 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm
            KY jw says:
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            Who (or what) is “pregnant chads”?

          • December 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm
            txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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            KY,
            Pregnant Chads are another name for Jar Heads. Specifically those whose brains are filled with Koch Brother propaganda. The difference is they take a “back door” approach and after “taking in” so much malignant propaganda, one becomes a “Pregnant Chad”. Unfortunately there is no known cure for this epidemic and it is spreading like wild fire. It is said to occur primarily in warmer climates, and due to a lack of education in the aforementioned region, it seems this trend will continue for generations.

          • December 18, 2013 at 8:26 am
            KY jw says:
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            Sadly, I’m still lost. Anyone else care to try explaining the concept of “pregnant chads”?

          • December 18, 2013 at 9:18 am
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            “In the 2000 United States presidential election, many of Florida votes used Votomatic style punched card ballots where incompletely-punched holes resulted in partially punched chads: either a hanging chad, where one or more corners were still attached, or a dimpled chad or pregnant chad, where all corners were still attached, but an indentation appears to have been made. These votes were not counted by the tabulating machines.”

            But I like txmouthbreatherboogereatertx’s definition better!

      • December 17, 2013 at 11:44 am
        txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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        I know right! They must have used the Hanging Chads that were left over from the 2000 election!!

  • December 13, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Sally Ann Fannymaker says:
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    Money always wins. Sad.

  • December 13, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    Rosenblatt says:
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    If he’s not liable because of affluenza, couldn’t his parents be found liable for not doing anything (or enough) to help him learn right from wrong?

  • December 13, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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    I say our society is too far gone to correct this problem.
    There was a case at our elementary school when my 17-yr old was in 1st grade, and we actually stopped using spanking at that time.

    A boy who, for the most part, was trouble at school (according to my son). At one point he came crying to his teacher that he got spanked with a belt the night before, and CPS was called.

    It took that poor family 6 months and thousands of dollars to get ALL 4 of their children back!

    Every bleeding-heart liberal out there knows best how you should run your family and your life, until there’s trouble. Then — it’s all your fault!

    • December 16, 2013 at 11:00 am
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      Hitting a child with a belt is child abuse. Period.

  • December 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Boonedoggle says:
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    If affluenza is accepted as a viable affirmative defense, then shouldn’t “poorfluenza” be similarly accepted. If so, wouldn;t this greatly reduce our prison population?

  • December 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm
    JC says:
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    My understanding is that the Justice Department is going to look into this case, which hopefully will include judicial review of the judge’s decision. Everyone’s thoughts and support for the families of the victims of this tragedy should be focused toward justice being done so that a precedent is not allowed to be set, one which will allow other irresponsible persons to disregard the rights of others as guaranteed in our US Constitution.

  • December 16, 2013 at 10:17 am
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    Daddy didn’t give affection
    And the boy was something that mommy wouldn’t wear
    King Jeremy the wicked
    Ruled his world

  • December 16, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    insurance is fun! says:
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    Dear Texas, please secede as soon as possible. Thank you.

  • December 16, 2013 at 2:24 pm
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    It happened in Texas, you say…

    • December 16, 2013 at 3:46 pm
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      They got the rootinist, tootenist cowboys in the whole wide world!

  • December 16, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    Celtica says:
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    I’m guessing there is no question in Texas that Santa is white…

    • December 17, 2013 at 7:34 am
      phoenix says:
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      ^^^^^Totally uncalled for^^^^^^^

      Bringing racist garbage into this discussion when there is not even a suggestion that race played a part in anything only goes to show who the actual racists are in this forum. Period.

      • December 17, 2013 at 10:56 am
        Celtica says:
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        Phoenix: This reminds me of a line from the Godfather: “Kay, now who’s being naive.?” Don’t kid yourself — of course race played a huge part in this idiot getting only probation for killing 4 people. If it had been a person of color, they would have thrown the book at him and tried him as an adult.

        • December 17, 2013 at 11:30 am
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          A person of color in Texas? Surely they’d have been run out on a rail by now…

      • December 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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        Phoenix: in case you don’t know, the created controversial issue this week with Faux News is the “fact” that Santa Claus is white – that there should be no “minority” Santas in the malls. While there may be a St. Claus, the Santa we know is fictional. But somehow the blonde babes on Faux insist he was and can only be remembered as a white man. Nice going.

        I don’t think that Celtica is bringing racist garbage into this discussion…just making fun of the wackos.

        • December 18, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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          Insurance is Fun: Correctomundo.

    • December 17, 2013 at 11:46 am
      txmouthbreatherboogereatertx says:
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      Just as long as he a’int yella



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