Certainly, Trump wouldn’t have any Mexicans on his grounds crews. He hates Mexicans. Also missing from his grounds crew are Muslims, homosexuals, African Americans, women…
Captain Planet – Trump has shown a preference for illegal Polish workers that he can pay lower wages (when he pays them at all) with no benefits and no safety equipment. They won’t complain — Trump would sue them too for defamation!
Certainly, Trump wouldn’t have any Mexicans on his grounds crews. He hates Mexicans. Also missing from his grounds crew are Muslims, African Americans, women…
So looking at it from a business owners perspective, if Trump bought a crumbling resort on the verge of bankruptcy for $150 million and put $300 million into it for total renovation, he has no say in the trees on his property line? By the way, he created some jobs on that renovation. The Cadillac Championship was just conducted and the course was difficult, but fair and it was beautiful.
I’m confused agent – what are you talking about? Nobody said that. Of course Trump is within his rights to do what he wants with the trees so long as they’re legally on his property. Did I miss the part in the article or on this comment page where ANYONE said he should not try and stop people from cutting/trimming the trees on his business’ property?
I agree that if the trees are on Trump’s property, he is within his right — however, that is if the trees existed before the homes were built.
it sounds as if the homes were there first — and then Trump blocked their view on purpose.
Look at this as a preview of what the Trump administration will look like. If he is so busy making American great again, why is he spending his time on nonsense like that? Because — Trump’s first priority is Trump.
The trees blocking the neighbors’ view are ok. Now, on the other hand, if it were windmills blocking Trump’s view of the ocean, then it would be wrong.
March 8, 2016 at 3:50 pm
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Like Trump or hate him he knows how to build and run world class golf courses. If the Golf Course was owned by someone else would this be even mentioned?
March 8, 2016 at 5:35 pm
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At least he don’t spend his time cyber stalking.
March 8, 2016 at 6:24 pm
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Yo, Texas Agent, since Trump is the one who filed suit, yes, he would be mentioned. If this was owned by another property developer, they most likely would not be bullying the homeowners since it is likely a more reasonable person would negotiate the issue. Trump might say he’s a sharp negotiator, but he’s really just a bully with a small bullwhip…if you get my drift.
March 7, 2016 at 4:47 pm
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They played loud music, hung underwear on clotheslines, drank alcohol and cut down trees? Sounds like they were Trump supporters up until this ‘debate’. happened. They shouldn’t have crossed The Donald; there’ll be hell toupee!
There’ll be hell toupee – oh my god, that is hilarious!! I wish I could game the voting system here and give you 30 upvotes for that comment. Well played sir (or ma’am), well played indeed!
Maybe he should just congregate the residents, have them hold up their right hands, and make a pledge not to cut the trees down anymore.
“I pledge allegiance to the Trump of The United Hates of America. And to the fascism for which he stands, one nation, under Donald, completely divisible with misogyny and disgust for many.”
Just congregate the residents, have them hold up their right hands, and make a pledge not to cut the trees down anymore.
“I pledge allegiance to the Trump of The United Hates of America. And to the fascism for which he stands, one nation, under Donald, completely divisible with misogyny and disgust for many.”
Would like to comment those of you who took SWFL Agent original statement and ran with it. So impressed that most of you know how to have a little fun and played off The Donald.
Dear Ohio Agent: Please, please, please vote for Kasich. Of all the GOP candidates, he would be my choice and would give Hillary a run for a real election for adults.
Whether Kasich is your choice or not. You MUST vote for him to help broker a Republican convention and save us all from that big-weenied and small-minded egomaniac.
If trumps opponents would talk about what good they will do for the country, maybe they would be closer in the polls. Instead all they do is talk about the evils of trump like a bunch of old stuffy politicians. Face The Nation on Sunday was Kaisch & Sanders bashing Trump. Same crap as the week before with Cruz.
With the Trump endorsements by Ben Carson & Hershal Walker, I guess the bigot accusation is off the table. Imagine Trump & Carson in the white house????
John Kasich has been talking about his plans and policy positions. The problem is, nobody has been listening. He is not fueling the anger emanating from the majority of Republican primary voters. He is just too thoughtful and reasonable for them.
He is my favorite candidate and, in my opinion, the best bet to beat Hillary Clinton in November. If Donald Trump gets the nomination, then loses to Hillary Clinton, his supporters need to look in the mirror and not blame “low-information voters”. The Republicans have a chance to prevent another President Clinton.
March 14, 2016 at 5:11 pm
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FFA, as long as we are in the joke telling mood, how about some real levity? Title of the following is:
Indian Want Coffee
An Indian walks into a café with a shotgun in one hand and pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter – “Me want coffee”
The waiter says sure Chief, coming right up. He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee. The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp, turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then walks out.
The next morning, the Indian returns carrying the shotgun and dragging another buffalo. He says to the waiter, “Me want coffee”. The waiter says, Whoa Tonto! We are still cleaning up the mess from yesterday. What was that all about yesterday? The Indian smiled and said proudly – Training for position in United States Congress. Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up, disappear for the rest of the day.
November 2016 – Vote Wisely!
March 14, 2016 at 5:57 pm
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Ron, no matter who ends up n the rep ticket, we most vote for that person so we can get the PPACA off the books.
Kaisch spent his time in the national spot light bashing his opponent not promoting his agenda. So did Bernie.
March 14, 2016 at 6:06 pm
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FFA,
Why is it OK for Donald Trump to constantly bash his opponents, but John Kasich does it once, and you are going to judge him negatively?
For most of the campaign, Kasich has been the most respectful candidate. Do you give him any credit for that?
More importantly, like Jon Huntsman in 2012, he is by far the most qualified and electable candidate, regardless of party affiliation.
March 14, 2016 at 6:59 pm
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Ron, The first time I saw Trump announce his campaign, he made me laugh. I remember saying to my wife “This cant be serious”. As I sat there watching him, I thought “No Way”. I still think that. But the more I think that, the more real the possibility becomes. With all the media giving him the attention, this does not surprise me.
Its not ok. I have heard him talk more about what he is going to do then the rest. So I watch what I consider to be legit News Programs to get informed on the other candidates. They are wasting the national spot light off the Debate stage to spread their word. Their word is Trump this, Trump that, Trump the next thing. … When (If) Trump gets on Face the Nation or Meet the Press and he bashes his opponents, I will say the same about him.
Keep in mind, I am fed up with all this BS. (Who said 6 months of political adds? GREAT IDEA) As a result, I am recording TV and FF threw the commercials. I am watching On Demand where there are no political commercials. I have all but stopped watching the news at night and dont pay any attention to the WGN news in the AM when they are talking politics. Except for them two programs, I have unplugged my self. I do go on FB. Thats how I learned of the Walker & Carson endorsements.
I have , so far, tallied up well over $26,000 in OOP Medical Premiums included. Whom ever got victimized & lied to as a result of the PPACA has no choice to to vote Republican. Even you, knowing how bad this is, needs to vote Rep no matter who is on the ticket. I doubt you will. You seem straight forward. You know this is going to screw you at some point. You know its going to screw everyone.
Universal Health Care? Really? After this mess? No Thanks.
March 15, 2016 at 8:10 am
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FFA,
A couple things to consider:
1. The president cannot single-handedly change any laws, only how they may be enforced. If Congress does not like Donald Trump’s health care plan, it will not become law.
2. Donald Trump has advocated for Universal health Care in the past. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.
Our objective [should be] to make reforms for the moment and, longer term, to find an equivalent of the single-payer plan that is affordable, well-administered, and provides freedom of choice. Possible? The good news is, yes. There is already a system in place-the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program-that can act as a guide for all healthcare reform. It operates through a centralized agency that offers considerable range of choice. While this is a government program, it is also very much market-based. It allows 620 private insurance companies to compete for this market. Once a year participants can choose from plans which vary in benefits and costs.” The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, Jul 2, 2000
3. How will Donald Trump respond to other leaders in the world if they do not agree with him? Will he negotiate and compromise or just call them boring losers and isolate us from the rest of the world?
4. How will he unite the country when he is constantly insulting entire groups of people and inciting violence at his rallies?
Just a few things to consider.
As I have stated in the past, I really want to vote for a Republican this time. However, if it is Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton, my vote will be going to either a 3rd party candidate or none of the above. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either of those 2 as the face of our great country.
March 15, 2016 at 3:23 pm
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FFA,
Another reason to not vote for Donald Trump, his economic plan.
This guy knows what to say to get votes, but does not know what needs to be done. Sound familiar?
March 15, 2016 at 3:40 pm
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Ron, My voice has been heard today. Now, we wait and see what plays out.
Regardless, the PPACA was sold to us with a pile of lies. With the latest screw job handed to agent, I feel betrayed, used and I know I was lied to.
March 15, 2016 at 7:17 pm
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“The president cannot single-handedly change any laws, only how they may be enforced. If Congress does not like Donald Trump’s health care plan, it will not become law”
Ill take my chances a republican pres will sign a repeal.
March 16, 2016 at 8:06 am
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FFA,
Whether or not I agree with your choice, I am happy you voted. I honestly believe that we would have better candidates if more people voted.
When I made that statement it was to remind you that, even if Donald Trump is elected, you may not see the changes in health care that you want. It will all depend on what Congress wants to do, not him or whoever becomes the next president.
March 10, 2016 at 6:04 pm
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Celtica, when did you convert from a die hard Hilliary supporter to Kasich? You and Libby would remind all of us how wonderful she was and how you couldn’t wait to vote for her. What event changed your mind? Was it the email scandal, Benghazi or just the thousand or so lies she has been telling in recent months. I will await your answer.
Can’t see myself voting for anybody who restricts funding for Planned Parenthood and/or who wants to put restrictions on anything that would further or restrict women’s lives. Sad thing is in Ohio Medicare/Medicaid funding already prohibited abortions. Statistics in Ohio show over 90% of Planned Parenthood monies went to providing prevented health screen and birth control counseling to both women and men.
Before you start, about PP not being needed due to Obama Care, I’m sure you’ve heard the stories where people can’t find primary care physicians accepting new patients which Medicare/Medicaid insurance. These are the same people who use PP and the walk in Free Clinic medical services.
Sad thing is I could agree with the anti-abortion policy if the Senate and House Representatives weren’t so damn set in cutting/eliminating funding that would be needed if more children were born to the working poor, non-working poor or lower middle class. I.e. SNAP, WIC, Daycare Assistance. Supporting one cause without the other is hypocritical.
For those who think I’m a liberal. You’re wrong. I consider myself a Conservative Independent as some beliefs of both parties appeal to me. Example would be helping fund education to get people off welfare. However, funding should limited to programs that education or teach job skills for positions that pay enough so that the individuals receiving the education/job assistance make enough so they don’t need Daycare assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, etc. any longer. Why have education/training programs for 2 years so somebody can become a medical assistant making $10-$12 an hour so they can stay on some form of public assistance for 10+ years when you can have a 4 year program to education RNs that would pay enough to eliminate the need.
“Statistics in Ohio show over 90% of Planned Parenthood monies went to providing prevented health screen and birth control counseling to both women and men.
Before you start, about PP not being needed due to Obama Care, I’m sure you’ve heard the stories where people can’t find primary care physicians accepting new patients which Medicare/Medicaid insurance.”
A: This shows exactly why we shouldn’t be pushing medicare/medicaid as well as government sponsored health care.
B: Occurring does not equate to how often. You are trying to imply that they cannot get the services without PP. This is a blatant lie.
C: Planned Parenthood even at 99% of funding going to health care screenings is not ok, because they can’t make what is the largest abortion clinic in the world just about, and then get funding to be able to expand that further. You can’t tell me they would afford all their locations with solely abortion dollars. As you just said, 90% of it went to those other services. That means the government dollars are funding their abortion expansions.
D: They refer to, and do not do nearly any in house, screenings. This means planned parent hood serves no purpose except to inflate the cost of care and add a middle man in addition to the already current middle man. It’s a fourth man.
E: Planned parenthood needs to be De-funded. If they cannot survive without the funding, they shouldn’t exist.
Listen, I know how democrats win you over, and I know you want to think you are listening to all sides.
Your attempt to moderate is your weakness here. You don’t negotiate with evil. That doesn’t work.
While many people are trying to say the “all parties suck” slogan, there are GOOD republicans getting slandered for doing GOOD things.
Defunding planned parenthood is a good thing.
Stopping abortion is a good thing.
There is a right. There is a wrong.
And these good people, do get slandered more than the left equivalents.
It’s one or the other. It is yes or no. Abortion or no. Planned parenthood is good, or bad.
When people fight one is right. One is wrong.
Right now, just about the only good politicians on these issues are republicans. There are next to no democrats on the right side of these arguments. It’s numbers.
Maybe it will change someday. Then you can bash republicans and say all parties are bad right now as you did below.
Until that time, focus on the bigger problem (democrats).
So, you think that poisoning people’s drinking water (as the Republicans in Michigan did, just so they could give more tax cuts to the rich) is a GOOD thing? You really are brainwashed!
If you had the capacity for a few minutes of actual of research, versus biting on your preferred headlines, you would realize that it was local (democrat) leadership in Flint who opted to use water from the Flint River instead of paying for water from Detroit.
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Do I even need to reply here?
Republicans are poisoning water supplies are they? And I’m brainwashed?
Are you out of your mind?
March 14, 2016 at 11:20 am
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Bob, I can agree with you on ObamaCare and Government Sponsored Healthcare needing to stay out of our lives. However, I can’t with all abortion being wrong. In cases on incest, rape, deformities that would severely affect quality of life of the child or health concerns of the mother should have exceptions.
We could go on an on about options like adoption. However, it is still wrong to make a rape/incest victim carry a pregnancy to term. Why increase the physical and emotion trauma of the victim? Even worst if it were to be done t a victim who is a child herself. I can see you no understand this difficult situation as you’ve probably never been raped and/or pregnant yourself.
Because of lack of healthcare options especially of the poor and that of young adults who may be living away from home in college, I have to disagree. PP serves a place where others fail.
Let me share with you that in the county I live in there are 4 PP locations. Out of the 4 there is only 1 that provides abortion services. Bob, I don’t know where you live but Ohio is a big place. You could spend an hour just driving thru this county itself. The 1 location that does provide abortion services is not on a public bus line. Because of this location it is non accessible to many young and poor people who may not have any other form of transportation to rely on.
Also, the democrats haven’t won me over. When the Republicans can nominate a moderate candidate that isn’t so righteous to always vote the party line but instead votes and issued that their constituents’ want then I can support them. I believe that to represent constituents’ you will sometimes have to go against your personal wants, belief and morals to fairly represent. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be in politics.
In addition, none of the 2 Democratic choices really appeal to me either. With this election, I really wish they have a write-in field on the ballet.
Meanwhile, Trump gets more publicity.
Anyone catch Face he Nation on Sunday? Cruz had the national spotlight and the bulk of his conversation was not about what good he can / will do, it was the Donald Trump hour.
Sad state when someone has to bash their competition instead of saying how he would improve things. Sad sad sad!
Reminds me of an old song – Tell me something good…
He spends most of his time responding to childish insults people keep throwing at him. The less political he comes across as, the more popular he gets. All of his opponents are running scared of the silent majority.
Ill bet Cruz is gonna be his VP choice. He needs someone to keep him grounded. Focused.
In the debates the other candidates have made a point of going after him, publicly, Mitt Romney made a statement about him, Rubio insults his hands and then Trump calls him out on the subtle commentary Rubio was making (about penis size) which was then used against him,
He rarely gets to talk about his policies in debates. He tends to talk about them in interviews.
And if you haven’t seen them…
Perhaps you are on the stupidity bandwagon of paying attention to entertainment aspects of politics instead of positions.
Because he has said them.
Just as much as Obama did back in the day.
And Obama talked about how great he was as well. Believing you are good for the country isn’t a sin.
Those who put a name onto the person they debate are in the habit of labeling character.
Trump does not believe he is a God.
He has debated his points, you have just missed them and refuse to look at anything other than destructive media reports, and entertainment politics. This is your flaw.
Yes. We will be doing better with Trump than Obama or Hillary. Based on his policies. That is not even close to an opinion. It’s a fact.
We have geared toward more government oriented methods to take care of society instead of business. The fact is, business is better at it and the government is supposed to be a small and last resort.
Anything that can be taken care of by business should. Anything that involves people that are retired etc and assistance should not.
It’s that simple. We currently definitely are moving toward the wrong balance in this area, so people will not be able to take care of themselves and will need the government.
I’m not saying that as a bad character trait of those who have to make this choice as human beings. I’m saying the politicians are bad.
I could list the areas all day. But I have no need.
You are partisan. And it’s clear as day.
I have said I would support a public option.
I have said I would support many of Bernie’s plans.
You have solely criticized every, single, aspect of conservative politicians, politics, ideas, etc, as insanity to no end.
You over exaggerate and it’s annoying. Just get lost.
Bob, isn’t it fun reading the comments of all these small minded Progressive haters of Trump while they give Hilliary and Communist Bernie a complete pass for the nonsense they stand for? Anyone with an R by their name is 100% better than anyone with a D next to their name.
“Anyone with an R by their name is 100% better than anyone with a D next to their name.”
Start sarcasm. Yeah, why bother learning what the candidates promise to do in office or what they stand for? Who cares how they voted in the past, how many lies they’ve told, or if they’re racist, homophobic and hypocritical? Voting is a lot easier if you just close your eyes and pick “R” with every opportunity, no matter who is running. Oh, Bill Cosby and OJ Simpson are running as Republicans? They’ll definitely get my vote! End sarcasm.
For what it is worth – no, I will not vote for Hillary.
For what it is worth Confused, you didn’t disavow Bernie which means you like all the free stuff he promises on the backs of taxpayers.
March 10, 2016 at 3:18 pm
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I didn’t specifically disavow Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Genghis Khan or Ivan the Terrible either. So by your warped logic that means I like all the stuff they did too, right?
March 10, 2016 at 3:38 pm
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Confused,
Historically people who vote republican tend to switch more often then democrats.
And also independents tend to lean conservative, but they also switch to voting democrat.
By the numbers, republicans are less about the R. It’s just a fact. You cannot switch the terms around and have it mean the same thing, without looking up numbers.
On to the Hilary commentary from Agent:
It is relevant. If the democrats are at all putting her forward (note that republicans disavowed the Bush name this election, it shows growth) then they are solely backing her based on the name “Clinton” and the D that comes with it. I am not using a vulgar expression by the way. I just realized after typing that, that it might be taken badly.
Regarding disavowing Bernie: I think he also has a point. You don’t have to disavow Hitler, he isn’t running.
March 10, 2016 at 4:07 pm
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Confused, how about we talk about this election instead of bad men in the far distant path? All you just told me was that you are an admirer of Bernie. It must be very depressing to you not to have a candidate who will do the right thing for the country.
March 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm
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“By the numbers, republicans are less about the R. It’s just a fact.”
And pray tell specifically which numbers are you talking about? What about you – if Bill Cosby was the Republican nominee and OJ Simpson was his VP, would you vote for them SOLELY because there is an “R” next to their names? Of course you wouldn’t!
“Regarding disavowing Bernie: I think he also has a point.”
He doesn’t. I have to disavow EVERY person by name or else I support the ones I don’t name? That’s absurd and you know it. I don’t like Trump or Hillary means just that – it does not mean I like everyone else. Watch.
I don’t like goat cheese. Does that mean I like EVERY other kind of cheese because I only named one I didn’t like? Of course not! I also don’t like Stinson or Feta.
I don’t like Volkswagen. Does that mean I like EVERY other car manufacturer because I only named VW? Of course not! I also don’t like Hummers (the car).
There’s no false equivalency here – Agent’s point was that I only named 2 people I didn’t like so that means I must like the ones I didn’t name. That is wrong and illogical.
March 10, 2016 at 4:18 pm
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“All you just told me was that you are an admirer of Bernie.”
WRONG WRONG WRONG. All I told you was I do not like Trump or Hillary. If you can copy and paste where I actually said I like Bernie or any of his policies or stances, I’ll gladly send you a cashier’s check for $10,000 right now.
March 10, 2016 at 4:46 pm
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Confused –
Every other type of cheese is not a good example. When we have two, just two, who are running, you left 50% out of the equation. Then you talked about someone from 70 years ago in our history as comparable and swiss cheese, which has as many holes as your argument.
Regarding the numbers of independents, I have seen countless studies, and I’m not going to take the time to find them again because it takes a hell of a long time.
However, know this:
In the 2008 election republican registered voters went down. They abandoned Bush W, and the party as a result. They moved to independent. It caused a rough 20% increase if I recall correctly. In that election, republicans also voted for Obama.
That is a swing of 30%. It holds true, even more when paying attention to demographics. The public abandoned Jeb Bush. Whereas the democrats embraced someone who may end up being indicted. I guarantee you, if Clinton were republican she would be forced out. Instead, I doubt even if she does get indicted it will affect her.
In Michigan, 9% of people say they won’t vote for Trump and will vote Hillary if Hillary wins the election. We have the same numbers. It shows that it makes a big difference to republicans in who represents their party.
Everything I just said definitely points to a less partisan republican party.
So, now that I found the links which I didn’t want to, used common sense (regarding Hillary’s indictment) are you going to say “pray tell” with me like a smart ass again?
Every time one of you challenges me like that I always make you look like a fool.
Maybe I actually do know numbers when I refer to something.
Maybe.
You didn’t make your comment knowing numbers though. You just flipped agent’s words around, and focused on what was catchy to say.
It’s pathetic. Do some research. Not word play. Or leave the debates to the adults. Adults don’t play with their food, or their words.
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Yo, Agent, it’s is not the Democratic party that is in a complete meltdown. Nooooo, that title belongs to the Republican party.
So, how did that Tea Party thingy work out for ya?
The democratic party is in meltdown. There is a reason they got owned in the mid term elections.
The thing is, the independents right now are pissed all around.
The republican party cannot be static and the party of the old white man and at the same time be melting down and changing. You have to choose one Celtica.
You are beyond partisan. It’s annoying.
The libertarian movement is growing due to the meltdown. I associate with these people, and I assure you:
They view Hillary as the worst.
They view Trump as slightly better.
They view Bernie as slightly better than Trump.
And they view Obama as a disaster slightly better than Hillary, and slightly better than Trump, but barely.
That is the type of meltdown we are having. Everyone is fed up and the independent voters have blown up in size. This is because of two reasons:
Republicans are not as partisan as democrats. They were the primary movement to democrats. That is not a meltdown, it is called changing.
But they didn’t switch to democrat. Which shows the meltdown is on both sides.
March 10, 2016 at 4:03 pm
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Bob, pretty good analysis. I don’t agree with you on everything, but I cut you some slack since you are from the left coast. I don’t know how you stand it in the land of Patti Murray.
Celtica is dead wrong about the Republican Party melting down. Turn out is very heavy on the Republican side and weak on the Hilliary/Bernie side. They have nothing to get excited about and many Democrats will be sitting at home this time or they will switch over to the Republican side since they are tired of Progressive Obama politics and the damage they have caused for 8 years now. You are right about the mid terms and even in the last general, the Senate went and the House increased the margins for Republicans, State Legislatures and governorships also changed more to the Republicans.
Libertarians are hard to figure. I wonder why their leader Rand Paul couldn’t get more traction if he was espousing what they wanted to hear. I think Independents are the ones going over to the Conservative side since they are fed up with politics as usual. Any politician who misjudges the anger of the voters does so at his own peril. The voters have awakened judging from the primaries so far. If we can just get rid of the grade school mud slinging, we could see some clarity in the next few months.
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Bob, I was going to say the same thing about Confused dodging yet again. There are only two candidates on the Democratic side. Instead, we get the long diatribe about cheese and Volkswagons??????
By the way Hilliary lost Michigan to the Communist so I don’t think she is that popular there. Michigan did respond well to Trump when he said he would put a tariff on all Ford trucks made in Mexico. The Auto Industry does like to protect itself and are still upset that GM is making so many vehicles in China instead of there.
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Celtica… Come on now. They put up worse candidates then all of the republican field. Hillary the liar? Bernie – give everything away.
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Agent,
It is very annoying. I’m worried about what will happen if we keep parties in existence.
If you ask me it should be a platform basis with no D R or anything. So that way people would have to condemn your policies.
Right now, it happens to be that democrats are making it worse. I’m sure it could flip. But not likely for a while.
This is largely due to them being better at “sales” politics. They dominated the house and senate for 41 years after the great depression, only 2 went to republicans until the 90’s, and somehow sold FDR as the person who fixed it and the republicans as the cause, so well, that this occurred. I hate that type of power.
They labeled republicans sexist, racist, xenophobic, any time an issue comes up they do this.
The republicans do fight back similar now, but the difference is it doesn’t work. That is the difference.
Bob, if we didn’t have a Constitutional Republic, we might have a Dictatorship of the Proletariat like some on this blog would favor. The last time I checked, that has been an abysmal failure everywhere it has been tried. Control of the people is what the leftists want. All you have to do is see what Obama has done in 8 years. 2% to 2.7 growth in GDP in 8 years is a terrible record, taxes going up to fund more and more entitlements, overbearing regulations hurting business. It is time to break this losing cycle. Say what you want about Trump, but I do believe he wants America to be great again and start winning. Personally, I like Cruz better since he believes in the Constitution and would have the best chance to unravel the gains of Progressives and cancel all the Executive Orders on day 1. That is a good start.
March 10, 2016 at 4:36 pm
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Cruz is my favorite candidate. I have posted about him before to Rosenblatt.
March 9, 2016 at 6:54 pm
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DT discussed his Healthcare plan on Fox (Sean Hannity) as one with HSAa and repeal of McCarran-Ferguson. The former is an oft-used approach, and the latter would reek havoc within the insurance industry because data pooling and research done by rating bureaus would be outlawed with the repeal of the Anti-Trust Law exemption under Public Law 15 (1944?); i.e. McCarran-Ferguson. WHO is advising him on health care?! Trump won’t discuss it in debates because Cruz or Rubio would tear that apart in front of millions of viewers. Hannity is unaware of PL-15 and the implication of its repeal.
I hope I don’t have to spell out the hyuuuuge implication of repeal of the PL-15 anti-trust exemption on small insurers with data as small as Donald’s….
Hannity won’t discuss it because he doesn’t do his own show-prep. I know a guy here who worked with Sean, guy gets spoon-fed everything. There is a reason why Megyn took over his spot. Hannity is the biggest hack at Faux.
Tried listening to Hannity for a while…couldn’t take him. Just kept repeating the same talking points and freaking out on people who disagreed with him. Limbaugh is the same way, and O’Reilly is probably the worst of all of them.
I HIGHLY recommend Michael Medved, regardless of whether you’re on the right or the left. He is easily the most intelligent of all the talk show hosts. He prioritizes callers who disagree with him, not to shout them down but to get their side of the story, and then explain how he reached his conclusion. Also, he isn’t afraid to admit if / when he gets it wrong. Seriously, do yourself a favor and look him up.
and for those of you actually looking to learn something, try reading / listening / watching something with the complete opposite views as yours. Admittedly, it’s not easy. Learn about what makes the other side tick. Seriously, read a story on the Huffington Post and then see how it’s covered on Drudge. You might find out you have more in common than differences.
louie, I didn’t know you were that liberal. Reading and believing anything the Huffington Post puts out is not the way to the truth. Are you also a fan of MSNBC? How about them as a fountain of truth? The liberal media has made a mockery out of reporting events and this election. They consistently give Hilliary and Bernie a pass while criticizing any Republican unmercifully no matter what the subject is.
March 10, 2016 at 1:22 pm
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actually, if you read my post I didn’t say I believed either Drudge or HuffPo. I read them both and then I make up my own mind.
For the record, I can’t stand MSNBC or FoxNews for that matter.
March 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm
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Melved is all right. I really like Thom Hartmann. I, too, listen to both sides. Michael Savage is a nut, but I enjoy listening to his show, too.
March 10, 2016 at 2:28 pm
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Louie, I have a way to help you make up your mind since you have threatened in the past not to vote since you don’t apparently like anyone or the media.
Google: Ecclesiastes 10:2 and that will tell you everything you need to know assuming you believe in the bible.
March 10, 2016 at 2:47 pm
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“The heart of a wise man leads to the right but the heart of a fool leads to the left.” Very interesting, though I’m not sure that “right” meant “Republican” and “left” meant “Democrat”when this passage was written; if anything it probably meant something more along the lines of the anomaly of being left handed (which was not understood at all in those days, so “evil” was equated with “left.” It’s the same in many cultures; the left hand is considered the “unclean hand.” My guess is even YOU have left handed people in your life, Agent.)
Actually, another interpretation is “A wise person’s heart leads the right way. The heart of a fool leads the wrong way.”
I do believe much of the Bible, Agent, and attend church very regularly. That being said, I also keep things in perspective when I read it as to the time when it was written as well as its many different translations and interpretations. For instance, I sincerely doubt you follow all of the rules in the book of Leviticus, am I right?
Call me what you will if it makes you feel any better.
March 10, 2016 at 4:34 pm
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I agree with Louie in parts of this one.
Except for the left handed aspect. Left and right had negative images far before the left hand fear. I would argue left and right handed aspects came from this. Not vice versa.
Besides which we are talking over 2000 years ago. The left handed craze didn’t kick in until much later. I am left handed so I know a bit on the aspect’s origins.
Left and right are used in the bible more than just that one line. I might add Louie, you looked at another translation and I looked it up. More than 10 use left and right, only one uses the right and wrong. We are talking a translation regardless, so you can’t use interpretations to any large degree.
There is a clear reference to the left and right in many aspects of the bible.
I don’t think it is a coincidence that the party of the “left” by their own decree, goes against God openly. That is not to say I think it is the source of them going against God. It’s just the devil tends to mock God. Maybe the left over here won’t be so against God eventually. But they took the name themselves and that’s just ironic considering how much they are currently against god.
March 10, 2016 at 9:35 am
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I forgot to add Trump’s HC plan uses a single-payer approach. Hannity may not have questioned that as a Big Government approach. Cruz and Carson provided alternatives. I haven’t yet read ALL of their details, so I can’t yet say if the Carson or Cruz plans are very good or just good, but I am almost certain they don’t involve Big Government.
Cruz is about the only one who makes sense, stands for the Constitution and vows to get rid of the debacle known as Obamacare, revising the tax code to a more fair tax in lieu of the Progressive Tax Code that Warren Buffet uses to avoid paying taxes with his army of tax lawyers.
louie, I am not calling you anything, but you have asked my advice on who to vote for on more than one occasion. You have to make up your own mind and hopefully before you enter the voting booth. Progressive leftists like Hilliary and Bernie are not the answer to this country’s problems. They will only make them worse just like Obama has done for 8 years.
So, between the fascist demagogue and the christian sharia law theocrat, which would you recommend?
March 10, 2016 at 4:25 pm
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Christian sharia law theocrat? I wonder what you’re actually trying to say here.
With all the over exaggeration it is hard to tell if you actually know the meaning of the words you are saying.
Speak plainly. What do you mean to ask?
If you were a politician you would have just made yourself a demagogue, because you didn’t go over anything other than supposed ideology of people you disagree with.
Does this mean the fascist demagogue is ok, because you just did the same thing? Or is the fascist part the problem and not the demagoguery.
Also, who is running with fascist principals? I know modern day has turned it into a hip way of saying far right wing, however, that has origins in the area of comparing nazism to fascism. That is where the line was coined as a far right wing insult. Are you using it as the modern day insult, or do you mean by the policies? If so, which policies?
Citation needed.
March 10, 2016 at 4:27 pm
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And if you are using fascism as the modern day insult:
Again, you appear to be ok and guilty of demagoguery.
I mean really. You think you just spoke clever to Agent but all you did was act like a complete idiot. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
March 10, 2016 at 4:40 pm
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Hi Bob:
First, I admit my comment regarding Sen. Cruz is using terms which don’t really go together. I was simply looking for a quick way to describe someone who has stated clearly that he gets his ideology from the christian bible and wants the U.S. to follow that text in the way the country is run. While the Senator certainly hasn’t shown the propensity for violence which has characterized Sharia around the world, he has been clear that he believes we should follow his version of christianity as we struggle with many of the difficult moral questions of our time.
As for Mr. Trump, he is a fascist demagogue. Just listen to what he advocates for government and business and how he points to a minority group as the cause of the problems in the country. I’m not referring to Naziism, I’m referring to fascism.
And since I’m not a politician, you can call me what you want. I really don’t care.
March 11, 2016 at 11:25 am
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Louie, the Bible is timeless and the truths in it are still accurate in today’s world. The Ten Commandments are the best to observe for the human heart and mind. The world would be in a much better place if everyone observed them, no?
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Well louie, you won’t be worrying about voting for Rubio now that he got swamped in his own home state. He really messed in his kit when he started all that childish insult business and people did not like it, even in his home state. It will be interesting to see where his support goes, Trump or Cruz. It will also be interesting where the establishment Republicans go since Rubio was their favorite. Neither Trump or Cruz are their favorites. They will have to make a choice to bite the bullet and get behind someone. My guess is Trump, but I could be wrong.
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louie, since I failed to convince you the first time on Left vs Right, allow me to state some basic principles citizens want.
1. Hilliary in Prison
2. Put “God” back in America
3. Borders: Closed!
4. Congress: On the same Retirement & Healthcare Plans as everyone else
5. Congress: Obey its own laws NOW!
6. Language: English Only
7. Culture: Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
8. Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before and during Welfare!
9. Freebies: None to Non-Citizens
10. Budget: Balance the damn thing!
11. Foreign Countries: Stop giving them our money. Charge them for our help. We need it here.
12. Fix the Tax Code NOW!
13. Respect our Military and Our Flag!
March 10, 2016 at 5:21 pm
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Bob, Matthew’s version is also good. Do you remember when the disciples were fishing and had thrown their nets over the “left” side of the boat? They fished all night and didn’t catch one fish. Jesus told them to cast their nets over the right side and they caught so many fish, they couldn’t haul them in. There is wisdom in this although the atheists will try to debunk it.
I had not noticed this at all actually, and I noticed a lot of right side left side in the bible.
That’s interesting Agent, and oddly enough one of my favorite comments I have seen from you in a long time.
That one took attention to detail and intuitive thought. Much unlike many of the people who debate with you.
I like this observation a lot.
March 14, 2016 at 3:09 pm
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Bob, perhaps the more modern explanation is the term:
Knowing “Right from Wrong” is a good term. The Right is right and the left is wrong. Wrong on about everything.
March 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm
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Last I read Cruz web site, it was just repeal PPACA with nothing to show as a replacement.
Trump allowing individual premiums to be written off…. Now thats big for the middle class. “Business do it, why cant individuals”? says Trump.
As I am plowing through my taxes, can you guess what is stuck in my head?
Yogi – go to his web site. He addresses several Health Issues there including a big boost for the Middle Class – Write of 100% of your Individual Premiums. Big Boost. Maybe he will even make sure there is a real stop loss.
Hi FFA, what do you think about the “Breaking News” today that Hilliary’s webmaster testifying (with immunity) all about her server set up, his role in the insecure server, how the email was processed etc. According to the headlines, it is devastating testimony. I would like to know what she told her geek to do to hide the info. Stay tuned, they may get the witch yet. She should be in jail already along with her minions.
Agent, Ive been out of the news loop. I am really tired of the campaign ads and all the crap on TV bashing Trump. I did watch face the nation on Sunday and Kaish and Bernie both too the national time to – yes you guessed it – Bash Trump and not out their message out there. With Hershal Walker and Ben Carson endorsing Trump, is he really a racist? Ben Carson for VP maybe? As far as Hillary, I cant imaging seeing her in the White House.
March 14, 2016 at 10:51 am
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FFA, the lying witch is at it again. She came out and said that Bernie didn’t support her plan on Healthcare when she was first lady (Hillarycare). Bernie came back with a video that had him standing right behind her and she was saying thank you to him for supporting her. She is not only a Socialist liar, she is also stupid.
March 14, 2016 at 6:11 pm
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Agent, she needs an intern.
March 10, 2016 at 4:19 pm
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J.S., did you get that statement off of Media Matters or Moveon.org or perhaps the Huffington Post, NY Times?
JS, if your post is all yours, you have some serious issues to deal with or you have been listening to too many left leaning networks or websites or you don’t know right from wrong. There is nothing wrong with a candidate who has Christian values and draws inspiration from his faith. Got it?
You just don’t know how to interpret it. It’s that simple. You also cannot interpret God.
If you want to talk about the affect of Christianity you don’t get to state it causes genocide and slavery. That gives the bible more power than us Christians believe it does over the average person. You would believe in it more than us.
March 12, 2016 at 12:01 pm
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That’s humorous Bob. For well over 1,000 years, history shows us example after example of Christians using the bible to justify these atrocities. You really need to read more history.
March 14, 2016 at 3:13 pm
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So your retort is to downthumb me 97 times JS? That sounds a lot like a fit to me like UW, Confused often do when they don’t like the message.
Agent, I did not downthumb you or anyone else even once. Those have nothing to do with me.
I don’t do that ever.
March 15, 2016 at 3:18 pm
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FFA, have you ever heard of Huma, the Muslim who was Hilliary’s intern/assistant? How about Sheryl Mills? Both were close to her in more ways than one. Both mixed their State Dept duties with Clinton Foundation which is a clear conflict of interest.
Can everybody just lighting up a little. Both parties have made politics a joke in this country for some time. Both parties in Congress only vote and support their party lines in lieu of the overall views of U.S. Citizens they are supposed represent. This is the year to elect a new President. But lets get real. It’s the Congress who really run things. Whomever is elected President won’t be able to make real change (unless by Executive Order) due to the in-party bickering. Neither side wants to give a little change/make anything better as they have a bigger fear of letting down the other politicians in their parties than they fear the people are supposed to represent.
What we need is real election reform so we have representatives with fresh ideas:
1. General elections have a 6 month time limit for public campaigning. How many of you are sick of seeing a 2-1/2-3 year campaigning period for President?
2. All Elections are government funded. No outside monies.
3. All candidates have the same allotted amount of TV/Radio time so they can express their view more than criticizing opponents
4. No government pensions for federally elected officials. They serve because they want to change/make things better and not to profit. They should have to work to take care of themselves like the rest of us or paid into their own IRAs and 401ks. Goodness gracious; they may need to do a public speaking event to make the extra $10k-$1mil they charge per event on occasion.
5. Term limits for both sides on Congress. You can have 2 consecutive terms but need to step back 1 term before running again (Several states have this policy for Governors).
6. Restrict the use of recorded telephone messages. The way the federal laws are now, Do Not Call lists make exceptions for political parties
7. Etc, etc. etc. – Feel free to share your thought!
I like #1 a lot as that would hopefully allow the politicians who are in office to, you know, actually do their job until their term is almost over instead of taking a year off to pander to the country.
#2 I could get behind if each candidate was allowed the same amount of funds, instead of just letting the gov’t hand out however much to whomever it wants.
#5 is a BIG YES!
I would like to add “allow third party candidates to debate Republicans & Democrats even if their party didn’t achieve a __% of the popular vote in the previous presidential election.”
While we’re here, can we PLEASE get rid of PAC’s and Super PAC’s. I know that ties into your 2nd point, but those things have gotten really out of hand in the past decade-plus.
Finally – how about we get rid of the electoral college and just have a simple majority (of citizens’ votes) to decide who becomes president? What a novel idea – whoever gets the most votes wins and everyone’s vote actually counts the same!
Rosenblatt, your popular vote idea would only work if voters were restricted to legitimate citizens, no illegals, no foreigners not citizens. Also, need to have a real, not faked ID to vote and vote only once, not precinct hopping to vote multiple times. Democrats would dearly love to have that extra 12 million votes on their side and their followers like the unions always try to game the system. We also have to have honest voting machines, not the ones we have seen that automatically record a Democratic vote when the voter votes for someone else. The SEIU in Nevada controlled and ran the voting machines in Nevada and good old Harry won easily when his approval rating was in the 40’s. My guess is that we would have to hire a couple hundred thousand non-partisan election officials to monitor every precinct in the country. By the way, no Black Panthers standing outside to intimidate voters.
Rosenblatt, how about giving us a detailed plan on preventing fraud in the elections by non citizens voting, precinct hopping, paper ballot fraud, Bugs Bunny, Goofy, Porky Pig votes etc like we saw in the Acorn days.
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Agent – do you REALLY want me to write multiple paragraphs explaining how I would accomplish those things? Every time I write more than 3 sentences, you tell me I’m being too wordy and I need to stop. As this is my 3rd sentence, I’ll finish by saying I can’t answer your question without writing multiple paragraphs and would genuinely like to know if you will actually read everything I write in response or not.
March 11, 2016 at 3:53 pm
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Awesome suggestions Rosenblatt. Appreciate any dialogue and suggestions that start conversations and ideas. That’s how a change revolution movement begin.
Ohio, I will agree with you that this country is undergoing a revolution of sorts. Taxpayers/citizens have had enough of Progressive Socialism governance. It is being shown with the energy of the primary season.
Yes, we really like that show as well FFA. We also look forward to the new Criminal Minds show with Gary Sinise. I liked him on CSI NY. Cable Channels are so much better than the lame stream networks and the unending diatribe Fox puts out on the election. Megyn thinks she looks good in her new dike hairdo.
FFA, I had all the OJ drama I could stand with the real life drama. If the trial had been in Texas, he would have been sent to death row since he was about as guilty as I have ever seen, but LA was not going to ever convict him. He did manage to get convicted later of a lesser charge on a strong armed robbery. I hope he never gets out, but he probably will and may get to play some golf with Obama in their declining years.
I have an idea on how to solve this problem, and trust me, it’s going to be great – forget the trees and build a wall.
OK, I can’t resist: Build a wall and make the homeowners pay for it!
Certainly, Trump wouldn’t have any Mexicans on his grounds crews. He hates Mexicans. Also missing from his grounds crew are Muslims, homosexuals, African Americans, women…
Captain Planet – Trump has shown a preference for illegal Polish workers that he can pay lower wages (when he pays them at all) with no benefits and no safety equipment. They won’t complain — Trump would sue them too for defamation!
Trump never hired them This was the General Contractor that hired them. Fact check.
Yo, Texas Agent — I did check it out. Trump, he is guilty as charged!
Rubio is right about the Polish workers, but it’s unclear how much Trump ended up paying. (The Trump campaign did not get back to us.)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/25/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-donald-trump-had-pay-1-million-hi/
“Don’t get stuck with an ugly Bill”.
Lets make the Mexican groundskeepers pay for it? (lol)
Certainly, Trump wouldn’t have any Mexicans on his grounds crews. He hates Mexicans. Also missing from his grounds crew are Muslims, African Americans, women…
…and make the residents pay for it. Very, very smart people, who have large (uh) hands, agree that this is the smartest answer.
And if the residents refuse to pay for it, it’ll be 10 feet taller.
So looking at it from a business owners perspective, if Trump bought a crumbling resort on the verge of bankruptcy for $150 million and put $300 million into it for total renovation, he has no say in the trees on his property line? By the way, he created some jobs on that renovation. The Cadillac Championship was just conducted and the course was difficult, but fair and it was beautiful.
I’m confused agent – what are you talking about? Nobody said that. Of course Trump is within his rights to do what he wants with the trees so long as they’re legally on his property. Did I miss the part in the article or on this comment page where ANYONE said he should not try and stop people from cutting/trimming the trees on his business’ property?
I agree that if the trees are on Trump’s property, he is within his right — however, that is if the trees existed before the homes were built.
it sounds as if the homes were there first — and then Trump blocked their view on purpose.
Look at this as a preview of what the Trump administration will look like. If he is so busy making American great again, why is he spending his time on nonsense like that? Because — Trump’s first priority is Trump.
The trees blocking the neighbors’ view are ok. Now, on the other hand, if it were windmills blocking Trump’s view of the ocean, then it would be wrong.
Like Trump or hate him he knows how to build and run world class golf courses. If the Golf Course was owned by someone else would this be even mentioned?
At least he don’t spend his time cyber stalking.
Yo, Texas Agent, since Trump is the one who filed suit, yes, he would be mentioned. If this was owned by another property developer, they most likely would not be bullying the homeowners since it is likely a more reasonable person would negotiate the issue. Trump might say he’s a sharp negotiator, but he’s really just a bully with a small bullwhip…if you get my drift.
They played loud music, hung underwear on clotheslines, drank alcohol and cut down trees? Sounds like they were Trump supporters up until this ‘debate’. happened. They shouldn’t have crossed The Donald; there’ll be hell toupee!
There’ll be hell toupee – oh my god, that is hilarious!! I wish I could game the voting system here and give you 30 upvotes for that comment. Well played sir (or ma’am), well played indeed!
Not my line; it’s all over the web, pics, too! Almost as viral as the Trumpinata.
Vote early. Vote often. Vote Yogi Polar Berra.
Unfortunately, it’s not a hat or an animal sitting on his head…and it’s not a bad toupee.
It’s a fabulous comb-over (and over again) with a 1/2 tube of Brylcreem (and maybe a can or 2 of spray for when he’s walking under the Trump chopper).
I think I’d rather have a president with a bad toupee and a small weenie. Or, better yet, I’d rather have a woman president!
Maybe he should just congregate the residents, have them hold up their right hands, and make a pledge not to cut the trees down anymore.
“I pledge allegiance to the Trump of The United Hates of America. And to the fascism for which he stands, one nation, under Donald, completely divisible with misogyny and disgust for many.”
Clever, Captain Planet, very clever.
Just congregate the residents, have them hold up their right hands, and make a pledge not to cut the trees down anymore.
“I pledge allegiance to the Trump of The United Hates of America. And to the fascism for which he stands, one nation, under Donald, completely divisible with misogyny and disgust for many.”
A Trump Treety? That could be yew-ge!
Would like to comment those of you who took SWFL Agent original statement and ran with it. So impressed that most of you know how to have a little fun and played off The Donald.
Dear Ohio Agent: Please, please, please vote for Kasich. Of all the GOP candidates, he would be my choice and would give Hillary a run for a real election for adults.
Whether Kasich is your choice or not. You MUST vote for him to help broker a Republican convention and save us all from that big-weenied and small-minded egomaniac.
And convince your friends, too.
If trumps opponents would talk about what good they will do for the country, maybe they would be closer in the polls. Instead all they do is talk about the evils of trump like a bunch of old stuffy politicians. Face The Nation on Sunday was Kaisch & Sanders bashing Trump. Same crap as the week before with Cruz.
With the Trump endorsements by Ben Carson & Hershal Walker, I guess the bigot accusation is off the table. Imagine Trump & Carson in the white house????
FFA,
John Kasich has been talking about his plans and policy positions. The problem is, nobody has been listening. He is not fueling the anger emanating from the majority of Republican primary voters. He is just too thoughtful and reasonable for them.
He is my favorite candidate and, in my opinion, the best bet to beat Hillary Clinton in November. If Donald Trump gets the nomination, then loses to Hillary Clinton, his supporters need to look in the mirror and not blame “low-information voters”. The Republicans have a chance to prevent another President Clinton.
FFA, as long as we are in the joke telling mood, how about some real levity? Title of the following is:
Indian Want Coffee
An Indian walks into a café with a shotgun in one hand and pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter – “Me want coffee”
The waiter says sure Chief, coming right up. He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee. The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp, turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then walks out.
The next morning, the Indian returns carrying the shotgun and dragging another buffalo. He says to the waiter, “Me want coffee”. The waiter says, Whoa Tonto! We are still cleaning up the mess from yesterday. What was that all about yesterday? The Indian smiled and said proudly – Training for position in United States Congress. Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up, disappear for the rest of the day.
November 2016 – Vote Wisely!
Ron, no matter who ends up n the rep ticket, we most vote for that person so we can get the PPACA off the books.
Kaisch spent his time in the national spot light bashing his opponent not promoting his agenda. So did Bernie.
FFA,
Why is it OK for Donald Trump to constantly bash his opponents, but John Kasich does it once, and you are going to judge him negatively?
For most of the campaign, Kasich has been the most respectful candidate. Do you give him any credit for that?
More importantly, like Jon Huntsman in 2012, he is by far the most qualified and electable candidate, regardless of party affiliation.
Ron, The first time I saw Trump announce his campaign, he made me laugh. I remember saying to my wife “This cant be serious”. As I sat there watching him, I thought “No Way”. I still think that. But the more I think that, the more real the possibility becomes. With all the media giving him the attention, this does not surprise me.
Its not ok. I have heard him talk more about what he is going to do then the rest. So I watch what I consider to be legit News Programs to get informed on the other candidates. They are wasting the national spot light off the Debate stage to spread their word. Their word is Trump this, Trump that, Trump the next thing. … When (If) Trump gets on Face the Nation or Meet the Press and he bashes his opponents, I will say the same about him.
Keep in mind, I am fed up with all this BS. (Who said 6 months of political adds? GREAT IDEA) As a result, I am recording TV and FF threw the commercials. I am watching On Demand where there are no political commercials. I have all but stopped watching the news at night and dont pay any attention to the WGN news in the AM when they are talking politics. Except for them two programs, I have unplugged my self. I do go on FB. Thats how I learned of the Walker & Carson endorsements.
I have , so far, tallied up well over $26,000 in OOP Medical Premiums included. Whom ever got victimized & lied to as a result of the PPACA has no choice to to vote Republican. Even you, knowing how bad this is, needs to vote Rep no matter who is on the ticket. I doubt you will. You seem straight forward. You know this is going to screw you at some point. You know its going to screw everyone.
Universal Health Care? Really? After this mess? No Thanks.
FFA,
A couple things to consider:
1. The president cannot single-handedly change any laws, only how they may be enforced. If Congress does not like Donald Trump’s health care plan, it will not become law.
2. Donald Trump has advocated for Universal health Care in the past. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.
Our objective [should be] to make reforms for the moment and, longer term, to find an equivalent of the single-payer plan that is affordable, well-administered, and provides freedom of choice. Possible? The good news is, yes. There is already a system in place-the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program-that can act as a guide for all healthcare reform. It operates through a centralized agency that offers considerable range of choice. While this is a government program, it is also very much market-based. It allows 620 private insurance companies to compete for this market. Once a year participants can choose from plans which vary in benefits and costs.” The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, Jul 2, 2000
3. How will Donald Trump respond to other leaders in the world if they do not agree with him? Will he negotiate and compromise or just call them boring losers and isolate us from the rest of the world?
4. How will he unite the country when he is constantly insulting entire groups of people and inciting violence at his rallies?
Just a few things to consider.
As I have stated in the past, I really want to vote for a Republican this time. However, if it is Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton, my vote will be going to either a 3rd party candidate or none of the above. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either of those 2 as the face of our great country.
FFA,
Another reason to not vote for Donald Trump, his economic plan.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/15/investing/donald-trump-trade-oped/index.html
This guy knows what to say to get votes, but does not know what needs to be done. Sound familiar?
Ron, My voice has been heard today. Now, we wait and see what plays out.
Regardless, the PPACA was sold to us with a pile of lies. With the latest screw job handed to agent, I feel betrayed, used and I know I was lied to.
“The president cannot single-handedly change any laws, only how they may be enforced. If Congress does not like Donald Trump’s health care plan, it will not become law”
Ill take my chances a republican pres will sign a repeal.
FFA,
Whether or not I agree with your choice, I am happy you voted. I honestly believe that we would have better candidates if more people voted.
When I made that statement it was to remind you that, even if Donald Trump is elected, you may not see the changes in health care that you want. It will all depend on what Congress wants to do, not him or whoever becomes the next president.
Celtica, when did you convert from a die hard Hilliary supporter to Kasich? You and Libby would remind all of us how wonderful she was and how you couldn’t wait to vote for her. What event changed your mind? Was it the email scandal, Benghazi or just the thousand or so lies she has been telling in recent months. I will await your answer.
Can’t see myself voting for anybody who restricts funding for Planned Parenthood and/or who wants to put restrictions on anything that would further or restrict women’s lives. Sad thing is in Ohio Medicare/Medicaid funding already prohibited abortions. Statistics in Ohio show over 90% of Planned Parenthood monies went to providing prevented health screen and birth control counseling to both women and men.
Before you start, about PP not being needed due to Obama Care, I’m sure you’ve heard the stories where people can’t find primary care physicians accepting new patients which Medicare/Medicaid insurance. These are the same people who use PP and the walk in Free Clinic medical services.
Sad thing is I could agree with the anti-abortion policy if the Senate and House Representatives weren’t so damn set in cutting/eliminating funding that would be needed if more children were born to the working poor, non-working poor or lower middle class. I.e. SNAP, WIC, Daycare Assistance. Supporting one cause without the other is hypocritical.
For those who think I’m a liberal. You’re wrong. I consider myself a Conservative Independent as some beliefs of both parties appeal to me. Example would be helping fund education to get people off welfare. However, funding should limited to programs that education or teach job skills for positions that pay enough so that the individuals receiving the education/job assistance make enough so they don’t need Daycare assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, etc. any longer. Why have education/training programs for 2 years so somebody can become a medical assistant making $10-$12 an hour so they can stay on some form of public assistance for 10+ years when you can have a 4 year program to education RNs that would pay enough to eliminate the need.
“Statistics in Ohio show over 90% of Planned Parenthood monies went to providing prevented health screen and birth control counseling to both women and men.
Before you start, about PP not being needed due to Obama Care, I’m sure you’ve heard the stories where people can’t find primary care physicians accepting new patients which Medicare/Medicaid insurance.”
A: This shows exactly why we shouldn’t be pushing medicare/medicaid as well as government sponsored health care.
B: Occurring does not equate to how often. You are trying to imply that they cannot get the services without PP. This is a blatant lie.
C: Planned Parenthood even at 99% of funding going to health care screenings is not ok, because they can’t make what is the largest abortion clinic in the world just about, and then get funding to be able to expand that further. You can’t tell me they would afford all their locations with solely abortion dollars. As you just said, 90% of it went to those other services. That means the government dollars are funding their abortion expansions.
D: They refer to, and do not do nearly any in house, screenings. This means planned parent hood serves no purpose except to inflate the cost of care and add a middle man in addition to the already current middle man. It’s a fourth man.
E: Planned parenthood needs to be De-funded. If they cannot survive without the funding, they shouldn’t exist.
Evidence to health screenings:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/29/planned-parenthood-pres-we-do-not-have-mammogram-machines-at-our-health-centers/
Listen, I know how democrats win you over, and I know you want to think you are listening to all sides.
Your attempt to moderate is your weakness here. You don’t negotiate with evil. That doesn’t work.
While many people are trying to say the “all parties suck” slogan, there are GOOD republicans getting slandered for doing GOOD things.
Defunding planned parenthood is a good thing.
Stopping abortion is a good thing.
There is a right. There is a wrong.
And these good people, do get slandered more than the left equivalents.
It’s one or the other. It is yes or no. Abortion or no. Planned parenthood is good, or bad.
When people fight one is right. One is wrong.
Right now, just about the only good politicians on these issues are republicans. There are next to no democrats on the right side of these arguments. It’s numbers.
Maybe it will change someday. Then you can bash republicans and say all parties are bad right now as you did below.
Until that time, focus on the bigger problem (democrats).
So, you think that poisoning people’s drinking water (as the Republicans in Michigan did, just so they could give more tax cuts to the rich) is a GOOD thing? You really are brainwashed!
If you had the capacity for a few minutes of actual of research, versus biting on your preferred headlines, you would realize that it was local (democrat) leadership in Flint who opted to use water from the Flint River instead of paying for water from Detroit.
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Do I even need to reply here?
Republicans are poisoning water supplies are they? And I’m brainwashed?
Are you out of your mind?
Bob, I can agree with you on ObamaCare and Government Sponsored Healthcare needing to stay out of our lives. However, I can’t with all abortion being wrong. In cases on incest, rape, deformities that would severely affect quality of life of the child or health concerns of the mother should have exceptions.
We could go on an on about options like adoption. However, it is still wrong to make a rape/incest victim carry a pregnancy to term. Why increase the physical and emotion trauma of the victim? Even worst if it were to be done t a victim who is a child herself. I can see you no understand this difficult situation as you’ve probably never been raped and/or pregnant yourself.
Because of lack of healthcare options especially of the poor and that of young adults who may be living away from home in college, I have to disagree. PP serves a place where others fail.
Let me share with you that in the county I live in there are 4 PP locations. Out of the 4 there is only 1 that provides abortion services. Bob, I don’t know where you live but Ohio is a big place. You could spend an hour just driving thru this county itself. The 1 location that does provide abortion services is not on a public bus line. Because of this location it is non accessible to many young and poor people who may not have any other form of transportation to rely on.
Also, the democrats haven’t won me over. When the Republicans can nominate a moderate candidate that isn’t so righteous to always vote the party line but instead votes and issued that their constituents’ want then I can support them. I believe that to represent constituents’ you will sometimes have to go against your personal wants, belief and morals to fairly represent. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be in politics.
In addition, none of the 2 Democratic choices really appeal to me either. With this election, I really wish they have a write-in field on the ballet.
Meanwhile, Trump gets more publicity.
Anyone catch Face he Nation on Sunday? Cruz had the national spotlight and the bulk of his conversation was not about what good he can / will do, it was the Donald Trump hour.
Sad state when someone has to bash their competition instead of saying how he would improve things. Sad sad sad!
Reminds me of an old song – Tell me something good…
(insert funky music here) “Tell me that you love me, yeah”
Yep… Thats it.
Do Floridians in $500,000 homes still hang their underwear on clotheslines?
Hey, it is Florida, you know. And, those Floridians may look at that clothesline as free advertising.
Those that have more than one pair.
Hey, it is FL, you know. And, those Floridians may look at that clothesline as free advertising.
Okay, who caught the “press conference” Trump threw last night. One would think he would talk about the election. One would think.
but NOOOOOOO….it was one huge product placement infomercial. Bizarro.
None of his opponents want to talk politics. All they want to do is throw mud, give Don some more free pub.
Trump has been asked to talk about his policies in debates, interviews and even in press conferences. Trump cannot because he has none.
He spends most of his time responding to childish insults people keep throwing at him. The less political he comes across as, the more popular he gets. All of his opponents are running scared of the silent majority.
Ill bet Cruz is gonna be his VP choice. He needs someone to keep him grounded. Focused.
Doctor Carson just endorsed him so maybe he will get that cabinet post afterall.
I’m trying to remember the last time he discussed an issue (other than how great he is). Anyone?
In the debates the other candidates have made a point of going after him, publicly, Mitt Romney made a statement about him, Rubio insults his hands and then Trump calls him out on the subtle commentary Rubio was making (about penis size) which was then used against him,
He rarely gets to talk about his policies in debates. He tends to talk about them in interviews.
And if you haven’t seen them…
Perhaps you are on the stupidity bandwagon of paying attention to entertainment aspects of politics instead of positions.
Because he has said them.
Just as much as Obama did back in the day.
And Obama talked about how great he was as well. Believing you are good for the country isn’t a sin.
Bobbo, believing you are good for the country isn’t a sin, believing that you are God — as Trump does — is a sin.
Trump has been asked to talk about his policies in debates, interviews and even in press conferences. Trump cannot because he has none.
If Trump is your choice, and he gets elected, it will be fun frying yer arse on that one.
Celtica-o? (as if that makes sense)
Those who put a name onto the person they debate are in the habit of labeling character.
Trump does not believe he is a God.
He has debated his points, you have just missed them and refuse to look at anything other than destructive media reports, and entertainment politics. This is your flaw.
Yes. We will be doing better with Trump than Obama or Hillary. Based on his policies. That is not even close to an opinion. It’s a fact.
We have geared toward more government oriented methods to take care of society instead of business. The fact is, business is better at it and the government is supposed to be a small and last resort.
Anything that can be taken care of by business should. Anything that involves people that are retired etc and assistance should not.
It’s that simple. We currently definitely are moving toward the wrong balance in this area, so people will not be able to take care of themselves and will need the government.
I’m not saying that as a bad character trait of those who have to make this choice as human beings. I’m saying the politicians are bad.
I could list the areas all day. But I have no need.
You are partisan. And it’s clear as day.
I have said I would support a public option.
I have said I would support many of Bernie’s plans.
You have solely criticized every, single, aspect of conservative politicians, politics, ideas, etc, as insanity to no end.
You over exaggerate and it’s annoying. Just get lost.
Bob, isn’t it fun reading the comments of all these small minded Progressive haters of Trump while they give Hilliary and Communist Bernie a complete pass for the nonsense they stand for? Anyone with an R by their name is 100% better than anyone with a D next to their name.
“Anyone with an R by their name is 100% better than anyone with a D next to their name.”
Start sarcasm. Yeah, why bother learning what the candidates promise to do in office or what they stand for? Who cares how they voted in the past, how many lies they’ve told, or if they’re racist, homophobic and hypocritical? Voting is a lot easier if you just close your eyes and pick “R” with every opportunity, no matter who is running. Oh, Bill Cosby and OJ Simpson are running as Republicans? They’ll definitely get my vote! End sarcasm.
For what it is worth – no, I will not vote for Hillary.
For what it is worth Confused, you didn’t disavow Bernie which means you like all the free stuff he promises on the backs of taxpayers.
I didn’t specifically disavow Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Genghis Khan or Ivan the Terrible either. So by your warped logic that means I like all the stuff they did too, right?
Confused,
Historically people who vote republican tend to switch more often then democrats.
And also independents tend to lean conservative, but they also switch to voting democrat.
By the numbers, republicans are less about the R. It’s just a fact. You cannot switch the terms around and have it mean the same thing, without looking up numbers.
On to the Hilary commentary from Agent:
It is relevant. If the democrats are at all putting her forward (note that republicans disavowed the Bush name this election, it shows growth) then they are solely backing her based on the name “Clinton” and the D that comes with it. I am not using a vulgar expression by the way. I just realized after typing that, that it might be taken badly.
Regarding disavowing Bernie: I think he also has a point. You don’t have to disavow Hitler, he isn’t running.
Confused, how about we talk about this election instead of bad men in the far distant path? All you just told me was that you are an admirer of Bernie. It must be very depressing to you not to have a candidate who will do the right thing for the country.
“By the numbers, republicans are less about the R. It’s just a fact.”
And pray tell specifically which numbers are you talking about? What about you – if Bill Cosby was the Republican nominee and OJ Simpson was his VP, would you vote for them SOLELY because there is an “R” next to their names? Of course you wouldn’t!
“Regarding disavowing Bernie: I think he also has a point.”
He doesn’t. I have to disavow EVERY person by name or else I support the ones I don’t name? That’s absurd and you know it. I don’t like Trump or Hillary means just that – it does not mean I like everyone else. Watch.
I don’t like goat cheese. Does that mean I like EVERY other kind of cheese because I only named one I didn’t like? Of course not! I also don’t like Stinson or Feta.
I don’t like Volkswagen. Does that mean I like EVERY other car manufacturer because I only named VW? Of course not! I also don’t like Hummers (the car).
There’s no false equivalency here – Agent’s point was that I only named 2 people I didn’t like so that means I must like the ones I didn’t name. That is wrong and illogical.
“All you just told me was that you are an admirer of Bernie.”
WRONG WRONG WRONG. All I told you was I do not like Trump or Hillary. If you can copy and paste where I actually said I like Bernie or any of his policies or stances, I’ll gladly send you a cashier’s check for $10,000 right now.
Confused –
Every other type of cheese is not a good example. When we have two, just two, who are running, you left 50% out of the equation. Then you talked about someone from 70 years ago in our history as comparable and swiss cheese, which has as many holes as your argument.
Regarding the numbers of independents, I have seen countless studies, and I’m not going to take the time to find them again because it takes a hell of a long time.
However, know this:
In the 2008 election republican registered voters went down. They abandoned Bush W, and the party as a result. They moved to independent. It caused a rough 20% increase if I recall correctly. In that election, republicans also voted for Obama.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/126421-republicans-who-backed-obama-say-they-may-vote-for-him-again
That is a swing of 30%. It holds true, even more when paying attention to demographics. The public abandoned Jeb Bush. Whereas the democrats embraced someone who may end up being indicted. I guarantee you, if Clinton were republican she would be forced out. Instead, I doubt even if she does get indicted it will affect her.
In Michigan, 9% of people say they won’t vote for Trump and will vote Hillary if Hillary wins the election. We have the same numbers. It shows that it makes a big difference to republicans in who represents their party.
I mean really:
http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/
Registered republicans have dropped from 39% down to 28%.
Where do you think they went? Democrats have dropped as well but not by much. They don’t think there is an issue. They aren’t switching.
You can look at the numbers and independents have grown by huge amounts as republicans have shrunk, whereas democrats have only changed minimally.
Another link to come explaining more of the swell in independent voters.
Republicans are. They are evaluating their choices.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
Everything I just said definitely points to a less partisan republican party.
So, now that I found the links which I didn’t want to, used common sense (regarding Hillary’s indictment) are you going to say “pray tell” with me like a smart ass again?
Every time one of you challenges me like that I always make you look like a fool.
Maybe I actually do know numbers when I refer to something.
Maybe.
You didn’t make your comment knowing numbers though. You just flipped agent’s words around, and focused on what was catchy to say.
It’s pathetic. Do some research. Not word play. Or leave the debates to the adults. Adults don’t play with their food, or their words.
Yo, Agent, it’s is not the Democratic party that is in a complete meltdown. Nooooo, that title belongs to the Republican party.
So, how did that Tea Party thingy work out for ya?
The democratic party is in meltdown. There is a reason they got owned in the mid term elections.
The thing is, the independents right now are pissed all around.
The republican party cannot be static and the party of the old white man and at the same time be melting down and changing. You have to choose one Celtica.
You are beyond partisan. It’s annoying.
The libertarian movement is growing due to the meltdown. I associate with these people, and I assure you:
They view Hillary as the worst.
They view Trump as slightly better.
They view Bernie as slightly better than Trump.
And they view Obama as a disaster slightly better than Hillary, and slightly better than Trump, but barely.
That is the type of meltdown we are having. Everyone is fed up and the independent voters have blown up in size. This is because of two reasons:
Republicans are not as partisan as democrats. They were the primary movement to democrats. That is not a meltdown, it is called changing.
But they didn’t switch to democrat. Which shows the meltdown is on both sides.
Bob, pretty good analysis. I don’t agree with you on everything, but I cut you some slack since you are from the left coast. I don’t know how you stand it in the land of Patti Murray.
Celtica is dead wrong about the Republican Party melting down. Turn out is very heavy on the Republican side and weak on the Hilliary/Bernie side. They have nothing to get excited about and many Democrats will be sitting at home this time or they will switch over to the Republican side since they are tired of Progressive Obama politics and the damage they have caused for 8 years now. You are right about the mid terms and even in the last general, the Senate went and the House increased the margins for Republicans, State Legislatures and governorships also changed more to the Republicans.
Libertarians are hard to figure. I wonder why their leader Rand Paul couldn’t get more traction if he was espousing what they wanted to hear. I think Independents are the ones going over to the Conservative side since they are fed up with politics as usual. Any politician who misjudges the anger of the voters does so at his own peril. The voters have awakened judging from the primaries so far. If we can just get rid of the grade school mud slinging, we could see some clarity in the next few months.
Bob, I was going to say the same thing about Confused dodging yet again. There are only two candidates on the Democratic side. Instead, we get the long diatribe about cheese and Volkswagons??????
By the way Hilliary lost Michigan to the Communist so I don’t think she is that popular there. Michigan did respond well to Trump when he said he would put a tariff on all Ford trucks made in Mexico. The Auto Industry does like to protect itself and are still upset that GM is making so many vehicles in China instead of there.
Celtica… Come on now. They put up worse candidates then all of the republican field. Hillary the liar? Bernie – give everything away.
Agent,
It is very annoying. I’m worried about what will happen if we keep parties in existence.
If you ask me it should be a platform basis with no D R or anything. So that way people would have to condemn your policies.
Right now, it happens to be that democrats are making it worse. I’m sure it could flip. But not likely for a while.
This is largely due to them being better at “sales” politics. They dominated the house and senate for 41 years after the great depression, only 2 went to republicans until the 90’s, and somehow sold FDR as the person who fixed it and the republicans as the cause, so well, that this occurred. I hate that type of power.
They labeled republicans sexist, racist, xenophobic, any time an issue comes up they do this.
The republicans do fight back similar now, but the difference is it doesn’t work. That is the difference.
They don’t win by calling someone a xenophobe.
This is insanity, and I fear for my kids.
Bob, if we didn’t have a Constitutional Republic, we might have a Dictatorship of the Proletariat like some on this blog would favor. The last time I checked, that has been an abysmal failure everywhere it has been tried. Control of the people is what the leftists want. All you have to do is see what Obama has done in 8 years. 2% to 2.7 growth in GDP in 8 years is a terrible record, taxes going up to fund more and more entitlements, overbearing regulations hurting business. It is time to break this losing cycle. Say what you want about Trump, but I do believe he wants America to be great again and start winning. Personally, I like Cruz better since he believes in the Constitution and would have the best chance to unravel the gains of Progressives and cancel all the Executive Orders on day 1. That is a good start.
Cruz is my favorite candidate. I have posted about him before to Rosenblatt.
DT discussed his Healthcare plan on Fox (Sean Hannity) as one with HSAa and repeal of McCarran-Ferguson. The former is an oft-used approach, and the latter would reek havoc within the insurance industry because data pooling and research done by rating bureaus would be outlawed with the repeal of the Anti-Trust Law exemption under Public Law 15 (1944?); i.e. McCarran-Ferguson. WHO is advising him on health care?! Trump won’t discuss it in debates because Cruz or Rubio would tear that apart in front of millions of viewers. Hannity is unaware of PL-15 and the implication of its repeal.
I hope I don’t have to spell out the hyuuuuge implication of repeal of the PL-15 anti-trust exemption on small insurers with data as small as Donald’s….
Hannity won’t discuss it because he doesn’t do his own show-prep. I know a guy here who worked with Sean, guy gets spoon-fed everything. There is a reason why Megyn took over his spot. Hannity is the biggest hack at Faux.
Tried listening to Hannity for a while…couldn’t take him. Just kept repeating the same talking points and freaking out on people who disagreed with him. Limbaugh is the same way, and O’Reilly is probably the worst of all of them.
I HIGHLY recommend Michael Medved, regardless of whether you’re on the right or the left. He is easily the most intelligent of all the talk show hosts. He prioritizes callers who disagree with him, not to shout them down but to get their side of the story, and then explain how he reached his conclusion. Also, he isn’t afraid to admit if / when he gets it wrong. Seriously, do yourself a favor and look him up.
and for those of you actually looking to learn something, try reading / listening / watching something with the complete opposite views as yours. Admittedly, it’s not easy. Learn about what makes the other side tick. Seriously, read a story on the Huffington Post and then see how it’s covered on Drudge. You might find out you have more in common than differences.
louie, I didn’t know you were that liberal. Reading and believing anything the Huffington Post puts out is not the way to the truth. Are you also a fan of MSNBC? How about them as a fountain of truth? The liberal media has made a mockery out of reporting events and this election. They consistently give Hilliary and Bernie a pass while criticizing any Republican unmercifully no matter what the subject is.
actually, if you read my post I didn’t say I believed either Drudge or HuffPo. I read them both and then I make up my own mind.
For the record, I can’t stand MSNBC or FoxNews for that matter.
Melved is all right. I really like Thom Hartmann. I, too, listen to both sides. Michael Savage is a nut, but I enjoy listening to his show, too.
Louie, I have a way to help you make up your mind since you have threatened in the past not to vote since you don’t apparently like anyone or the media.
Google: Ecclesiastes 10:2 and that will tell you everything you need to know assuming you believe in the bible.
“The heart of a wise man leads to the right but the heart of a fool leads to the left.” Very interesting, though I’m not sure that “right” meant “Republican” and “left” meant “Democrat”when this passage was written; if anything it probably meant something more along the lines of the anomaly of being left handed (which was not understood at all in those days, so “evil” was equated with “left.” It’s the same in many cultures; the left hand is considered the “unclean hand.” My guess is even YOU have left handed people in your life, Agent.)
Actually, another interpretation is “A wise person’s heart leads the right way. The heart of a fool leads the wrong way.”
I do believe much of the Bible, Agent, and attend church very regularly. That being said, I also keep things in perspective when I read it as to the time when it was written as well as its many different translations and interpretations. For instance, I sincerely doubt you follow all of the rules in the book of Leviticus, am I right?
Call me what you will if it makes you feel any better.
I agree with Louie in parts of this one.
Except for the left handed aspect. Left and right had negative images far before the left hand fear. I would argue left and right handed aspects came from this. Not vice versa.
Besides which we are talking over 2000 years ago. The left handed craze didn’t kick in until much later. I am left handed so I know a bit on the aspect’s origins.
Left and right are used in the bible more than just that one line. I might add Louie, you looked at another translation and I looked it up. More than 10 use left and right, only one uses the right and wrong. We are talking a translation regardless, so you can’t use interpretations to any large degree.
Except when comparing similar lines:
http://biblehub.com/matthew/25-41.htm
There is a clear reference to the left and right in many aspects of the bible.
I don’t think it is a coincidence that the party of the “left” by their own decree, goes against God openly. That is not to say I think it is the source of them going against God. It’s just the devil tends to mock God. Maybe the left over here won’t be so against God eventually. But they took the name themselves and that’s just ironic considering how much they are currently against god.
I forgot to add Trump’s HC plan uses a single-payer approach. Hannity may not have questioned that as a Big Government approach. Cruz and Carson provided alternatives. I haven’t yet read ALL of their details, so I can’t yet say if the Carson or Cruz plans are very good or just good, but I am almost certain they don’t involve Big Government.
Cruz is about the only one who makes sense, stands for the Constitution and vows to get rid of the debacle known as Obamacare, revising the tax code to a more fair tax in lieu of the Progressive Tax Code that Warren Buffet uses to avoid paying taxes with his army of tax lawyers.
louie, I am not calling you anything, but you have asked my advice on who to vote for on more than one occasion. You have to make up your own mind and hopefully before you enter the voting booth. Progressive leftists like Hilliary and Bernie are not the answer to this country’s problems. They will only make them worse just like Obama has done for 8 years.
So, between the fascist demagogue and the christian sharia law theocrat, which would you recommend?
Christian sharia law theocrat? I wonder what you’re actually trying to say here.
With all the over exaggeration it is hard to tell if you actually know the meaning of the words you are saying.
Speak plainly. What do you mean to ask?
If you were a politician you would have just made yourself a demagogue, because you didn’t go over anything other than supposed ideology of people you disagree with.
Does this mean the fascist demagogue is ok, because you just did the same thing? Or is the fascist part the problem and not the demagoguery.
Also, who is running with fascist principals? I know modern day has turned it into a hip way of saying far right wing, however, that has origins in the area of comparing nazism to fascism. That is where the line was coined as a far right wing insult. Are you using it as the modern day insult, or do you mean by the policies? If so, which policies?
Citation needed.
And if you are using fascism as the modern day insult:
Again, you appear to be ok and guilty of demagoguery.
I mean really. You think you just spoke clever to Agent but all you did was act like a complete idiot. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
Hi Bob:
First, I admit my comment regarding Sen. Cruz is using terms which don’t really go together. I was simply looking for a quick way to describe someone who has stated clearly that he gets his ideology from the christian bible and wants the U.S. to follow that text in the way the country is run. While the Senator certainly hasn’t shown the propensity for violence which has characterized Sharia around the world, he has been clear that he believes we should follow his version of christianity as we struggle with many of the difficult moral questions of our time.
As for Mr. Trump, he is a fascist demagogue. Just listen to what he advocates for government and business and how he points to a minority group as the cause of the problems in the country. I’m not referring to Naziism, I’m referring to fascism.
And since I’m not a politician, you can call me what you want. I really don’t care.
Louie, the Bible is timeless and the truths in it are still accurate in today’s world. The Ten Commandments are the best to observe for the human heart and mind. The world would be in a much better place if everyone observed them, no?
Well louie, you won’t be worrying about voting for Rubio now that he got swamped in his own home state. He really messed in his kit when he started all that childish insult business and people did not like it, even in his home state. It will be interesting to see where his support goes, Trump or Cruz. It will also be interesting where the establishment Republicans go since Rubio was their favorite. Neither Trump or Cruz are their favorites. They will have to make a choice to bite the bullet and get behind someone. My guess is Trump, but I could be wrong.
louie, since I failed to convince you the first time on Left vs Right, allow me to state some basic principles citizens want.
1. Hilliary in Prison
2. Put “God” back in America
3. Borders: Closed!
4. Congress: On the same Retirement & Healthcare Plans as everyone else
5. Congress: Obey its own laws NOW!
6. Language: English Only
7. Culture: Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
8. Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before and during Welfare!
9. Freebies: None to Non-Citizens
10. Budget: Balance the damn thing!
11. Foreign Countries: Stop giving them our money. Charge them for our help. We need it here.
12. Fix the Tax Code NOW!
13. Respect our Military and Our Flag!
Bob, Matthew’s version is also good. Do you remember when the disciples were fishing and had thrown their nets over the “left” side of the boat? They fished all night and didn’t catch one fish. Jesus told them to cast their nets over the right side and they caught so many fish, they couldn’t haul them in. There is wisdom in this although the atheists will try to debunk it.
Agent,
I had not noticed this at all actually, and I noticed a lot of right side left side in the bible.
That’s interesting Agent, and oddly enough one of my favorite comments I have seen from you in a long time.
That one took attention to detail and intuitive thought. Much unlike many of the people who debate with you.
I like this observation a lot.
Bob, perhaps the more modern explanation is the term:
Knowing “Right from Wrong” is a good term. The Right is right and the left is wrong. Wrong on about everything.
Last I read Cruz web site, it was just repeal PPACA with nothing to show as a replacement.
Trump allowing individual premiums to be written off…. Now thats big for the middle class. “Business do it, why cant individuals”? says Trump.
As I am plowing through my taxes, can you guess what is stuck in my head?
Yogi – go to his web site. He addresses several Health Issues there including a big boost for the Middle Class – Write of 100% of your Individual Premiums. Big Boost. Maybe he will even make sure there is a real stop loss.
Hi FFA, what do you think about the “Breaking News” today that Hilliary’s webmaster testifying (with immunity) all about her server set up, his role in the insecure server, how the email was processed etc. According to the headlines, it is devastating testimony. I would like to know what she told her geek to do to hide the info. Stay tuned, they may get the witch yet. She should be in jail already along with her minions.
Agent, Ive been out of the news loop. I am really tired of the campaign ads and all the crap on TV bashing Trump. I did watch face the nation on Sunday and Kaish and Bernie both too the national time to – yes you guessed it – Bash Trump and not out their message out there. With Hershal Walker and Ben Carson endorsing Trump, is he really a racist? Ben Carson for VP maybe? As far as Hillary, I cant imaging seeing her in the White House.
FFA, the lying witch is at it again. She came out and said that Bernie didn’t support her plan on Healthcare when she was first lady (Hillarycare). Bernie came back with a video that had him standing right behind her and she was saying thank you to him for supporting her. She is not only a Socialist liar, she is also stupid.
Agent, she needs an intern.
J.S., did you get that statement off of Media Matters or Moveon.org or perhaps the Huffington Post, NY Times?
No. They’re mine.
JS, if your post is all yours, you have some serious issues to deal with or you have been listening to too many left leaning networks or websites or you don’t know right from wrong. There is nothing wrong with a candidate who has Christian values and draws inspiration from his faith. Got it?
I have serious issues? Why, because I don’t go to a book that advocates genocide and slavery when I look to decide moral questions?
So, if Sen. Cruz becomes President and calls for you to follow Leviticus 26, verses 7-9, what will you do?
I would read it.
The bible does not advocate genocide and slavery.
You just don’t know how to interpret it. It’s that simple. You also cannot interpret God.
If you want to talk about the affect of Christianity you don’t get to state it causes genocide and slavery. That gives the bible more power than us Christians believe it does over the average person. You would believe in it more than us.
That’s humorous Bob. For well over 1,000 years, history shows us example after example of Christians using the bible to justify these atrocities. You really need to read more history.
So your retort is to downthumb me 97 times JS? That sounds a lot like a fit to me like UW, Confused often do when they don’t like the message.
Agent, I did not downthumb you or anyone else even once. Those have nothing to do with me.
I don’t do that ever.
FFA, have you ever heard of Huma, the Muslim who was Hilliary’s intern/assistant? How about Sheryl Mills? Both were close to her in more ways than one. Both mixed their State Dept duties with Clinton Foundation which is a clear conflict of interest.
Can everybody just lighting up a little. Both parties have made politics a joke in this country for some time. Both parties in Congress only vote and support their party lines in lieu of the overall views of U.S. Citizens they are supposed represent. This is the year to elect a new President. But lets get real. It’s the Congress who really run things. Whomever is elected President won’t be able to make real change (unless by Executive Order) due to the in-party bickering. Neither side wants to give a little change/make anything better as they have a bigger fear of letting down the other politicians in their parties than they fear the people are supposed to represent.
What we need is real election reform so we have representatives with fresh ideas:
1. General elections have a 6 month time limit for public campaigning. How many of you are sick of seeing a 2-1/2-3 year campaigning period for President?
2. All Elections are government funded. No outside monies.
3. All candidates have the same allotted amount of TV/Radio time so they can express their view more than criticizing opponents
4. No government pensions for federally elected officials. They serve because they want to change/make things better and not to profit. They should have to work to take care of themselves like the rest of us or paid into their own IRAs and 401ks. Goodness gracious; they may need to do a public speaking event to make the extra $10k-$1mil they charge per event on occasion.
5. Term limits for both sides on Congress. You can have 2 consecutive terms but need to step back 1 term before running again (Several states have this policy for Governors).
6. Restrict the use of recorded telephone messages. The way the federal laws are now, Do Not Call lists make exceptions for political parties
7. Etc, etc. etc. – Feel free to share your thought!
I’m with you OH Agent. Building off your post….
I like #1 a lot as that would hopefully allow the politicians who are in office to, you know, actually do their job until their term is almost over instead of taking a year off to pander to the country.
#2 I could get behind if each candidate was allowed the same amount of funds, instead of just letting the gov’t hand out however much to whomever it wants.
#5 is a BIG YES!
I would like to add “allow third party candidates to debate Republicans & Democrats even if their party didn’t achieve a __% of the popular vote in the previous presidential election.”
While we’re here, can we PLEASE get rid of PAC’s and Super PAC’s. I know that ties into your 2nd point, but those things have gotten really out of hand in the past decade-plus.
Finally – how about we get rid of the electoral college and just have a simple majority (of citizens’ votes) to decide who becomes president? What a novel idea – whoever gets the most votes wins and everyone’s vote actually counts the same!
Rosenblatt, your popular vote idea would only work if voters were restricted to legitimate citizens, no illegals, no foreigners not citizens. Also, need to have a real, not faked ID to vote and vote only once, not precinct hopping to vote multiple times. Democrats would dearly love to have that extra 12 million votes on their side and their followers like the unions always try to game the system. We also have to have honest voting machines, not the ones we have seen that automatically record a Democratic vote when the voter votes for someone else. The SEIU in Nevada controlled and ran the voting machines in Nevada and good old Harry won easily when his approval rating was in the 40’s. My guess is that we would have to hire a couple hundred thousand non-partisan election officials to monitor every precinct in the country. By the way, no Black Panthers standing outside to intimidate voters.
I wrote “citizens’ votes” for a reason — non-citizens should not be allowed to vote in our elections. I thought that was rather obvious.
Rosenblatt, how about giving us a detailed plan on preventing fraud in the elections by non citizens voting, precinct hopping, paper ballot fraud, Bugs Bunny, Goofy, Porky Pig votes etc like we saw in the Acorn days.
Agent – do you REALLY want me to write multiple paragraphs explaining how I would accomplish those things? Every time I write more than 3 sentences, you tell me I’m being too wordy and I need to stop. As this is my 3rd sentence, I’ll finish by saying I can’t answer your question without writing multiple paragraphs and would genuinely like to know if you will actually read everything I write in response or not.
Awesome suggestions Rosenblatt. Appreciate any dialogue and suggestions that start conversations and ideas. That’s how a change revolution movement begin.
Ohio, I will agree with you that this country is undergoing a revolution of sorts. Taxpayers/citizens have had enough of Progressive Socialism governance. It is being shown with the energy of the primary season.
Agent, The Americans starting up again!!! YAHOO. ON FX. Wont hear a word about politics during that show.
Yes, we really like that show as well FFA. We also look forward to the new Criminal Minds show with Gary Sinise. I liked him on CSI NY. Cable Channels are so much better than the lame stream networks and the unending diatribe Fox puts out on the election. Megyn thinks she looks good in her new dike hairdo.
Have you been watching American Crime Story – The People vs OJ Simpson?
FFA, I had all the OJ drama I could stand with the real life drama. If the trial had been in Texas, he would have been sent to death row since he was about as guilty as I have ever seen, but LA was not going to ever convict him. He did manage to get convicted later of a lesser charge on a strong armed robbery. I hope he never gets out, but he probably will and may get to play some golf with Obama in their declining years.