As it always happens, it started off good with Bob citing an important and I highly agree overlooked coverage.Now we have the Sharpton and Jackson haters at it again. What is that Black people can’t have leaders but other people can. Al and Jesse may not speak for me all the time but I am a leader for myself and the kids I mentor also.
Back to the insurance matter, companies need to wake up and stop looking at insurance companies being the bad guy and cover their behinds. If you know you have employees that are committing these acts get rid of them immediately. They’re like a cancer and will only cause trickle down liability in the end. I had a boss who liked to harass folks and he was eventually fired. I could have sued but oh well, I was young and dumb at the time plus some things aren’t worth all the hassle and you expect it in certain industries – you develop a thick skin. This boss went way too in asking for some and groping people. Verbally accosting someone is one thing but physically putting your hands on someone is another!
great post but you are assuming that the allegations are actually true when we do not know if they are or not. for me, an allegation is an allegation until it is proven true by either a trier of fact or law.
As for Curious, i was being somewhat sarcastic and a bit disingenuous in my post and speaking from the pltf POV as they don’t care if what they (or their atty) states is the truth or not, they only want a settlement and money. sorry but the truth hurts.
It is important to note that the criminal prosecutor not only found no merit to the accusations, but found the claimant to be incredible. This is different than saying that theere is insufficent proof to bring criminal charges. This should be a “red flag” for some to step back and consider that the Tavern may be actually innocent in this case. – The Duke Lacrosse case comes to mind. By the Way, anyone knows how is case against Isiah Thomas and Knicks going? –
I would like to find out if there were prior allegations against the Mgr. before the Tavern received the EEOC Complaint. After all, the tavern could not have stopped it, if they were not aware of it.
Should the white employees file a discrimination suit if they were not included in the derogatory name calling & sexual harassment groping? Seems like the manager (terminated for 2 years) had a thing for talking dirty to only dark raced nationalities….
Who knows? Maybe all the employees can get in on the suit & see just how deep the pockets are!
Hey now…. Do only black females make these charges against their male managers? If so, I sure that these charges have merit. Not for my sake, but for any black female who face this type of harassment. Otherwise, no one would believe them. Actual sexual harassment in the workplace is a terrible thing, regardless of whether it is white-on-black, vice versa, male-to-female, and yes… female on male (if I should be so lucky).
You guys continue to amaze me. Your prejudice against ANYONE who makes a claim is evident. It has reached the point that you have no credibility with anyone othere than yourselves
It was meant to be a sarcastic post not prejudiced… lol just to see if we can include all the employees so all could get a piece of that pie!
Not all blacks, whites, hispanics, germans, russians, asians, and all the other nationalities that make up our beautiful nation are being represented here & I thought why not make it democratic with the hand outs from this employer….
mcheck57 – why do you even come on this site? you obviously have no knowledge of the insurance industry or claims experience and all of your posts are pointless and pretty stupid. just go away, please.
My wife (caucasion) worked as a server in a resteraunt several years ago early in our marriage to help make ends meet. She was sexually harrassed alot over a period of several months by her manager who happened to be a minority. I was a student working a part time job in those days and we needed her job to make ends meet. She didn’t tell me about the harrassment until long after because she knew we needed the job and I would have made her quit the job. She felt trapped because she didn’t want to rock the boat and risk losing her job, so she endured the treatment for several months until she was able to find a different (much better) job. I guess I have 2 points here. 1 – she felt trapped and endured this treatment and didn’t report it. 2 – This was a reverse situation where it was a minority harrassing a caucasion worker. This stuff does happen, and more often than not never sees the light of day.
Never said that. Do you not know how to read and comprehend. My statement simply stated you obviously do not know anything about insurance and/or claims thus your ignorant posts and them bearing no weight. Now for those of us that have been in the insurance industry and/or claims for years have do have better thoughts and/or opinions about this (and other) subjects based upon our experiences. It doesn’t mean that we are right just more experienced and better educated about the subject. I enjoyed your pity party though.
I agree with you. Race should not make a difference. All sexual harrassment is wrong. My point was that sexual harassment happens often to all races and is very often not reported. You get these high profile cases that lead you to believe a certain type of harrassment is prevailent or that it happens more often to one race by another. In my wife’s case, she felt trapped and never reported it.
Employment Practices Liability Insurance continues to be an over-looked line of coverage by many small to medium-sized business owners.
I guess we will see the hostess on the Larry King Show.
Hey, they “comply with all the laws”, so obviously it didn’t happen. Go figure!
After the show, they’ll march to the restaraunt and protest for 2 days with Jesse Jackson
You’re forgetting Al Sharpton too!
Who cares if it happened or not. Filing a suit like this is a free meal ticket. Gotta love deep pockets.
As it always happens, it started off good with Bob citing an important and I highly agree overlooked coverage.Now we have the Sharpton and Jackson haters at it again. What is that Black people can’t have leaders but other people can. Al and Jesse may not speak for me all the time but I am a leader for myself and the kids I mentor also.
Back to the insurance matter, companies need to wake up and stop looking at insurance companies being the bad guy and cover their behinds. If you know you have employees that are committing these acts get rid of them immediately. They’re like a cancer and will only cause trickle down liability in the end. I had a boss who liked to harass folks and he was eventually fired. I could have sued but oh well, I was young and dumb at the time plus some things aren’t worth all the hassle and you expect it in certain industries – you develop a thick skin. This boss went way too in asking for some and groping people. Verbally accosting someone is one thing but physically putting your hands on someone is another!
Who cares if it happened or not? You should care.
great post but you are assuming that the allegations are actually true when we do not know if they are or not. for me, an allegation is an allegation until it is proven true by either a trier of fact or law.
As for Curious, i was being somewhat sarcastic and a bit disingenuous in my post and speaking from the pltf POV as they don’t care if what they (or their atty) states is the truth or not, they only want a settlement and money. sorry but the truth hurts.
It is important to note that the criminal prosecutor not only found no merit to the accusations, but found the claimant to be incredible. This is different than saying that theere is insufficent proof to bring criminal charges. This should be a “red flag” for some to step back and consider that the Tavern may be actually innocent in this case. – The Duke Lacrosse case comes to mind. By the Way, anyone knows how is case against Isiah Thomas and Knicks going? –
I would like to find out if there were prior allegations against the Mgr. before the Tavern received the EEOC Complaint. After all, the tavern could not have stopped it, if they were not aware of it.
Should the white employees file a discrimination suit if they were not included in the derogatory name calling & sexual harassment groping? Seems like the manager (terminated for 2 years) had a thing for talking dirty to only dark raced nationalities….
Who knows? Maybe all the employees can get in on the suit & see just how deep the pockets are!
Hey now…. Do only black females make these charges against their male managers? If so, I sure that these charges have merit. Not for my sake, but for any black female who face this type of harassment. Otherwise, no one would believe them. Actual sexual harassment in the workplace is a terrible thing, regardless of whether it is white-on-black, vice versa, male-to-female, and yes… female on male (if I should be so lucky).
You guys continue to amaze me. Your prejudice against ANYONE who makes a claim is evident. It has reached the point that you have no credibility with anyone othere than yourselves
It was meant to be a sarcastic post not prejudiced… lol just to see if we can include all the employees so all could get a piece of that pie!
Not all blacks, whites, hispanics, germans, russians, asians, and all the other nationalities that make up our beautiful nation are being represented here & I thought why not make it democratic with the hand outs from this employer….
mcheck57 – why do you even come on this site? you obviously have no knowledge of the insurance industry or claims experience and all of your posts are pointless and pretty stupid. just go away, please.
Steve…thanks for proving my point you greedy jerk! Only your opinion is right.
My wife (caucasion) worked as a server in a resteraunt several years ago early in our marriage to help make ends meet. She was sexually harrassed alot over a period of several months by her manager who happened to be a minority. I was a student working a part time job in those days and we needed her job to make ends meet. She didn’t tell me about the harrassment until long after because she knew we needed the job and I would have made her quit the job. She felt trapped because she didn’t want to rock the boat and risk losing her job, so she endured the treatment for several months until she was able to find a different (much better) job. I guess I have 2 points here. 1 – she felt trapped and endured this treatment and didn’t report it. 2 – This was a reverse situation where it was a minority harrassing a caucasion worker. This stuff does happen, and more often than not never sees the light of day.
It should not make a differnce what race any of the parties is. Sexual Harassment is wrong and actionable.
Never said that. Do you not know how to read and comprehend. My statement simply stated you obviously do not know anything about insurance and/or claims thus your ignorant posts and them bearing no weight. Now for those of us that have been in the insurance industry and/or claims for years have do have better thoughts and/or opinions about this (and other) subjects based upon our experiences. It doesn’t mean that we are right just more experienced and better educated about the subject. I enjoyed your pity party though.
anyone know more about what Isaih did
I agree with you. Race should not make a difference. All sexual harrassment is wrong. My point was that sexual harassment happens often to all races and is very often not reported. You get these high profile cases that lead you to believe a certain type of harrassment is prevailent or that it happens more often to one race by another. In my wife’s case, she felt trapped and never reported it.