And we care about this why?
Two DUI’s in the past 10 years?
Did he harm anyone? Nope.
Speeding tickets are written every day.
Speeders kill more annually than drinking drivers. Why no stories on people with 10 or more speeding tickets?
Why not try to skate on this one….it seems he has been successful several other times in winning his freedom despite an atrocious record. And I’m sure his brother is a credible witness…..
Can’t wait to read about conviction No. 12 at some point in the future here in IJ.
Is this guy related to the guy in Rhode Island who had .85 BA? They should lock them up together so they can look at each other all the time and see themselves.
How can a guy with so many DUI convictions be roaming free? Isn’t PA the place where the state owns the liquor stores? If this was Texas he would be in Jail after 2 convictions. It’s a harsh system but it deters….
Issuing DUI citations, suspending licences, and imposing petty fines and jail sentences obviously don’t have any impact. “IF” legislators wanted to get serious about addressing the problem (which is questionable given their past performance), they need to strike at the source of the problem, not the symptom. There needs to be a consequence that gets the attention of even the most stupid, chronic, drinker AND anyone who provides them with a vehicle to drive. Here’s a suggestion to accomplish that.
1st DUI conviction: $5,000 fine, 90 days in jail, and impound ANY vehicle he/she was driving for 6 months.
2nd DUI conviction: $10,000 fine, 180-days in jail, and impound ANY vehicle he/she is driving for 12 months.
3rd DUI conviction: $100,000 fine, 5 years in jail, and convication of ANY vehicle he/she is driving to be sold with the money going to a fund for un-compensate victims of idiots who drive drunk.
In reality, our legal system won’t ever do the right thing. The comparatively small number of innocent people who are maimed or killed by them simply isn’t important enough. Just hope this issue never strikes too close to home.
I don’t understand, in 1990 I had a DUI and was sentenced to 6 mos loss of license, had to complete a 5 week ARD class that was over and above the fine and court costs I had to pay. I had a probation officer even though I was granted ARD that I had to report into for 6 months AND get premission from to go back to college as it was in another county. This arrest occurred at 21 years old, 10 seconds from my front door, no accident, etc…
Either PA is getting more lax, and I doubt it here in the Communist Republic of Rendell, or this info is not incorrect.
In situations lkie this, the name(s)of the previous judges need to be included in the article. That way their neighbors will know what imbeciles they have living near them.
The fact of the matter is that neither our society nor our legal system has the balls to make and enforce tough decisions. There should be zero tolerance for DUI’s…..period. There’s nothing more dangerous and disgusting than some piece of human garbage slurring his/her speech, driving erratically, and threatening innocent people just because they lack the common sense, good judgment, self-control, and concern for anyone but themselves.
…in a fiery car wreck before the legal system finally steps up and removes this menace from society? Impressive stats, like 11 DUIs, lead me to believe that something else is at play (perhaps the accused has “played the race card,” which is a frequently used ploy here in CA.
But in the final analysis it is we, the people, who step into the voting booths and pull the levers…we’re the ones who elect these “public servants” who allow someone to rack up 11 DUIs. We are supposed to elect people who want to protect us from people like this unrepentant, knuckle-dragging, mook who has a teaspoon of brains and clearly does not value his life or any one else’s. The officals we elect could stop this…but they’re too busy to do their jobs becuase they’re spending their time raising money and campaigning for their re-elections.
Taking a drink and then deciding to operate a hurtling mass of metal is the same as leaving a loaded gun where a child can access it…both negligent and unfortunate choices. But choices they are. And pretty selfish ones at that.
What planet are you people from??? What evidence was there that he was was drinking other than he had ‘done it before’?
Hey; here’s an idea! Let’s all put on some white sheets or brown shirts and hide outside of bars at closing time. When someone who looks like they’ve been drinking gets in their car to drive; we go get them and put an end to that sort of thing.
Everyone needs to quit crying about this guy and start looking at the state’s judicial process. How does a guy with 10 DUI’s even get the opportunity to get his 11th. I blame the State and the lack of punishment. Maybe one day these lenient judges in PA will have to be accountable for their doings. We’ve got 3 strikes your out laws in place for drugs, but this guy is able to get 10 DUI’s????
Stop the whining and exaggeration about the Nazis. Every society is held together by a code of conduct. When someone deviates from that conduct and endangers others, there should be a swift, and substantive response. We keep ***** footing around with chronic drunks and deviants. That’s what brings a society down.
I wish someone would have removed my father’s license from him. He was a constant drink and drive person. He seemed to drink even more when he fell asleep drinking and driving one night, went off the road and his younger brother was killed. Drunks, of course, are just harmless and fun loving good guys.
One reason we don’t crack down on DUIs is because most people refuse to look at alcohol as what it is – a drug. A socially acceptable drug, but a drug nonetheless.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a prude and think all drugs should be legal even though I don’t partake, but casting alcohol in a different light from other drugs leads to wimpy laws.
I’m with Dread – throw a big book at offenders. I’m also with Nick – 3 strikes and you’re out.
What a bunch of rubes. Get tough on drunk drivers! ASND is defending a drunk driver!
Raise your hand if you never received a speeding ticket or spoke on your cell phone while driving.
Sober inattentive driving and/or sober speeding driver do the majority of killing on the roads and they receive no prison time for killing someone with a 2 Ton Weapon.
Get a clue…laws are tough enough….it’s the mental midgets like all of you that blindly believe MADD and NHTSA IMPUTED statistics and the media propaganda blitz for MADD that blind you to the fact you are being hoodwinked.
I bet none of you ever went to a ball game, had a beer and drove afterward either. According to MADD you are a drunk driver.
If drinkers that don’t kill can receive jail time after so many offenses, we should be treating speeders in the same fashion. Both might cause harm to another human being but didn’t.
A concept most of you as speeders need to wake up to.
Thank you for presenting a completely absurd position to demonstrate how stupid people sound when they defend drinking and driving. It was like a skit from the Daily Show – hilarious satire. It’s a great relief to know that nobody is really that ignorant.
We’re making headway. We got the drunks, tee toddlers, cell phone users and speeders off of the road. If we also include teenage drivers, non insureds, senior citizens and trucks, the roads will be almost safe. Unfortunately we have adults with problems and no self control and a system that is unable to hold them accountable and prevent it. In three different states, I have seen drunks walking on city, state and interstate highways late at night. Some don’t need a car to do damage.
“Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition”, but look around and there we are. Seriously, I feel like I’m trapped in a Monty Python skit. Nobody’s defending drunk driving, you simple-minded-Lemming. But apparently you are incappable of comprehending such concepts as presumption of innocence, evidence which supports a reasonable burden of proof and the proportionality of an offence.
You want to lock him up for driving on a suspended license as a repeat offender; that’s proper. You want to be outraged that after 10 DUIs the state did not permanently revoke his license; I’m with you on that. I only know of one perfect person and even he was executed for that! If you’re not willing to demonstrate some thoughtful perspective, don’t expect the rest of us to cut you any slack!
I’m a little confused, One More Time. The article wasn’t entirely clear on why the individual was convicted. Have you ever known an IJ article to be complete? Do you have a link that shows that there was no other proof or you being as ignorant as you accuse others of being? You need to get a little perspective yourself.
lets just all agree that the problem seems to be that he was allowed to get that many DUIs at all. He should have been serving jail time. I have lost an aunt and a cousin to drunk drivers and yet i do understand that one drink at a ballgame doesnt make you a worse driver than i am when i am driving while talking on my cell. lets not fight
First off, I prefer the term hick. Rubes is too European.
Did anyone say anything about speeders? I’m pissed off about people who are repeat offenders of letting their dogs crap in my yard, but unfortunately this article was about repeat DUI offenders.
The media makes you think this…The media makes you think that…
Look buddy if I wanted to hear some Rush L. retoric I’d tune in and listen to him.
The dude had 10 DUI convictions. There is no excuse. Shut your mouth and start reading the article before you talk.
And we care about this why?
Two DUI’s in the past 10 years?
Did he harm anyone? Nope.
Speeding tickets are written every day.
Speeders kill more annually than drinking drivers. Why no stories on people with 10 or more speeding tickets?
Does IJ love MADD propaganda? It appears so.
Get him off the road. Behind bars would be goos.
Why do idiots like this continue to defend drunks who drive? How stupid can these individuals be? Take your anti MADD rants elsewhere fool.
Why not try to skate on this one….it seems he has been successful several other times in winning his freedom despite an atrocious record. And I’m sure his brother is a credible witness…..
Can’t wait to read about conviction No. 12 at some point in the future here in IJ.
Is this guy related to the guy in Rhode Island who had .85 BA? They should lock them up together so they can look at each other all the time and see themselves.
I agree. Fools who defend any drunk driver – especially one that has been convicted 11 times – need to have their head and heart examined.
How can a guy with so many DUI convictions be roaming free? Isn’t PA the place where the state owns the liquor stores? If this was Texas he would be in Jail after 2 convictions. It’s a harsh system but it deters….
Issuing DUI citations, suspending licences, and imposing petty fines and jail sentences obviously don’t have any impact. “IF” legislators wanted to get serious about addressing the problem (which is questionable given their past performance), they need to strike at the source of the problem, not the symptom. There needs to be a consequence that gets the attention of even the most stupid, chronic, drinker AND anyone who provides them with a vehicle to drive. Here’s a suggestion to accomplish that.
1st DUI conviction: $5,000 fine, 90 days in jail, and impound ANY vehicle he/she was driving for 6 months.
2nd DUI conviction: $10,000 fine, 180-days in jail, and impound ANY vehicle he/she is driving for 12 months.
3rd DUI conviction: $100,000 fine, 5 years in jail, and convication of ANY vehicle he/she is driving to be sold with the money going to a fund for un-compensate victims of idiots who drive drunk.
In reality, our legal system won’t ever do the right thing. The comparatively small number of innocent people who are maimed or killed by them simply isn’t important enough. Just hope this issue never strikes too close to home.
If this was Texas, he’d be on the Row.
I don’t understand, in 1990 I had a DUI and was sentenced to 6 mos loss of license, had to complete a 5 week ARD class that was over and above the fine and court costs I had to pay. I had a probation officer even though I was granted ARD that I had to report into for 6 months AND get premission from to go back to college as it was in another county. This arrest occurred at 21 years old, 10 seconds from my front door, no accident, etc…
Either PA is getting more lax, and I doubt it here in the Communist Republic of Rendell, or this info is not incorrect.
Even easier and cheaper: shoot them on site. If they’re going to endanger other people’s lives, then remove the imminent danger.
In situations lkie this, the name(s)of the previous judges need to be included in the article. That way their neighbors will know what imbeciles they have living near them.
The fact of the matter is that neither our society nor our legal system has the balls to make and enforce tough decisions. There should be zero tolerance for DUI’s…..period. There’s nothing more dangerous and disgusting than some piece of human garbage slurring his/her speech, driving erratically, and threatening innocent people just because they lack the common sense, good judgment, self-control, and concern for anyone but themselves.
It has nothing to do with Rendell. I don’t recall him seeking to reduce penalties for DUI or blocking attempts to strengthen DUI laws.
…in a fiery car wreck before the legal system finally steps up and removes this menace from society? Impressive stats, like 11 DUIs, lead me to believe that something else is at play (perhaps the accused has “played the race card,” which is a frequently used ploy here in CA.
But in the final analysis it is we, the people, who step into the voting booths and pull the levers…we’re the ones who elect these “public servants” who allow someone to rack up 11 DUIs. We are supposed to elect people who want to protect us from people like this unrepentant, knuckle-dragging, mook who has a teaspoon of brains and clearly does not value his life or any one else’s. The officals we elect could stop this…but they’re too busy to do their jobs becuase they’re spending their time raising money and campaigning for their re-elections.
Taking a drink and then deciding to operate a hurtling mass of metal is the same as leaving a loaded gun where a child can access it…both negligent and unfortunate choices. But choices they are. And pretty selfish ones at that.
What planet are you people from??? What evidence was there that he was was drinking other than he had ‘done it before’?
Hey; here’s an idea! Let’s all put on some white sheets or brown shirts and hide outside of bars at closing time. When someone who looks like they’ve been drinking gets in their car to drive; we go get them and put an end to that sort of thing.
Everyone needs to quit crying about this guy and start looking at the state’s judicial process. How does a guy with 10 DUI’s even get the opportunity to get his 11th. I blame the State and the lack of punishment. Maybe one day these lenient judges in PA will have to be accountable for their doings. We’ve got 3 strikes your out laws in place for drugs, but this guy is able to get 10 DUI’s????
Stop the whining and exaggeration about the Nazis. Every society is held together by a code of conduct. When someone deviates from that conduct and endangers others, there should be a swift, and substantive response. We keep ***** footing around with chronic drunks and deviants. That’s what brings a society down.
I wish someone would have removed my father’s license from him. He was a constant drink and drive person. He seemed to drink even more when he fell asleep drinking and driving one night, went off the road and his younger brother was killed. Drunks, of course, are just harmless and fun loving good guys.
One reason we don’t crack down on DUIs is because most people refuse to look at alcohol as what it is – a drug. A socially acceptable drug, but a drug nonetheless.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a prude and think all drugs should be legal even though I don’t partake, but casting alcohol in a different light from other drugs leads to wimpy laws.
I’m with Dread – throw a big book at offenders. I’m also with Nick – 3 strikes and you’re out.
What a bunch of rubes. Get tough on drunk drivers! ASND is defending a drunk driver!
Raise your hand if you never received a speeding ticket or spoke on your cell phone while driving.
Sober inattentive driving and/or sober speeding driver do the majority of killing on the roads and they receive no prison time for killing someone with a 2 Ton Weapon.
Get a clue…laws are tough enough….it’s the mental midgets like all of you that blindly believe MADD and NHTSA IMPUTED statistics and the media propaganda blitz for MADD that blind you to the fact you are being hoodwinked.
I bet none of you ever went to a ball game, had a beer and drove afterward either. According to MADD you are a drunk driver.
If drinkers that don’t kill can receive jail time after so many offenses, we should be treating speeders in the same fashion. Both might cause harm to another human being but didn’t.
A concept most of you as speeders need to wake up to.
Good day!.
Thank you for presenting a completely absurd position to demonstrate how stupid people sound when they defend drinking and driving. It was like a skit from the Daily Show – hilarious satire. It’s a great relief to know that nobody is really that ignorant.
We’re making headway. We got the drunks, tee toddlers, cell phone users and speeders off of the road. If we also include teenage drivers, non insureds, senior citizens and trucks, the roads will be almost safe. Unfortunately we have adults with problems and no self control and a system that is unable to hold them accountable and prevent it. In three different states, I have seen drunks walking on city, state and interstate highways late at night. Some don’t need a car to do damage.
“Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition”, but look around and there we are. Seriously, I feel like I’m trapped in a Monty Python skit. Nobody’s defending drunk driving, you simple-minded-Lemming. But apparently you are incappable of comprehending such concepts as presumption of innocence, evidence which supports a reasonable burden of proof and the proportionality of an offence.
You want to lock him up for driving on a suspended license as a repeat offender; that’s proper. You want to be outraged that after 10 DUIs the state did not permanently revoke his license; I’m with you on that. I only know of one perfect person and even he was executed for that! If you’re not willing to demonstrate some thoughtful perspective, don’t expect the rest of us to cut you any slack!
I’m a little confused, One More Time. The article wasn’t entirely clear on why the individual was convicted. Have you ever known an IJ article to be complete? Do you have a link that shows that there was no other proof or you being as ignorant as you accuse others of being? You need to get a little perspective yourself.
lets just all agree that the problem seems to be that he was allowed to get that many DUIs at all. He should have been serving jail time. I have lost an aunt and a cousin to drunk drivers and yet i do understand that one drink at a ballgame doesnt make you a worse driver than i am when i am driving while talking on my cell. lets not fight
First off, I prefer the term hick. Rubes is too European.
Did anyone say anything about speeders? I’m pissed off about people who are repeat offenders of letting their dogs crap in my yard, but unfortunately this article was about repeat DUI offenders.
The media makes you think this…The media makes you think that…
Look buddy if I wanted to hear some Rush L. retoric I’d tune in and listen to him.
The dude had 10 DUI convictions. There is no excuse. Shut your mouth and start reading the article before you talk.
Dread, chill out man – YOU NEED A BEER. Its not that big of deal man………