This is a Health Care issue. Always has been. Always will be. Funny, the Catholic Bishops have asked the republicans for help on quite a few issues in the past, unemployment, welfare, etc., and the republicans didn’t give them the time of day.
As I was saying… And the evangelicals haven’t lifted a finger in response to those issues either. But let health care reform pop up and VIOLA! everybody is against it.
This is very typical of you anejo. I write something contaversial and instead of addressing your point of view with logic you immediately throw out insults. This is consistent with those who believe as you do, when the core of the issue is bared you get flustered and cower behind insults. I look forward to seeing if you ever have a point.
But wait…where are the scientologists? They don’t even believe in medicine do they? Should they not then be exempted from providing health coverage at all? What about WC – Indemnity & E/L Only coverage?
Oh grand-poobah Cruise, where is thy political voice & support for this/these mandate(s)?
I am tired of a mdedieval church, composed of old, white (primarily) celibate men procelytizing from the pulpit when the majority of their famale parishioners do not even follow the church teachings regarding both contraception and abortion.
It is a fact that the firt trimester fetus cannot survive outside of the womb. If you want to beleive that a soul is implanted when the sperm meets the ovum, believe what you want, but leave the rest of us who do not so believe alone.
I resent the intrusion into my repriductive health, my female health, my potential economic health that the evangelicals as well as the catholics are attempting. Personally, my freedom to not be assaulted by others beliefs based on the Bible (or some zealots interpretation of it), a 2000 year old tract based in its own time and place (with some universal truths in it however, such as nmaybe “do unto others…..”) is breached every day by the tax exempt status of these institutions and ther overweening hubris in believing that theirs is the only “true faith.”
Some of these preachings and revelations from these pulpits are as archaic and divisive and, yes, chauvinistic, as those held by the Taliban, and we all know how we feel about those zealots, don’t we?
This debate only serves to mask the rife hyupocrisy of a church that buried the abuses of its priests for decades and an evangelical contingent of ministers composed of the Bakkers and Swaggerts, et. al. who committed adulteries while mouthing holy scripture from the other sides ofn their mouths.
I realize you are passionate about what you are saying and trying to make a point, but the validity of your post is overshadowed by your horrendous spelling and misuse of the English language. Perhaps proofreading before hitting post comment would help. We all make an occasional typo, but your post as written is an embarassment.
I wish there were a spell check feature. I could use it. A lot of my posts have typos. Not because I can’t spell, but because I use the Columbus method to type….search for it and land on it. But I don’t always proofread when I should. I don’t hold it against folks when they do it.
I am a championship speller but a lousy typist, especially when “passionate” about a subject, as you so rightly perceived.
Perhaps one should look past the spelling and look at the content; I always do.
The point is that while these folk play the “religious freedom card” at every turn, they have no concept that they, in turn, are seeking to impose their beliefs on me. The fact that we allow tax exemption is proof of lack of separation of church and state…or, rather, freedom to not have others’ religion practiced on my dime.
As for the good works they do, has anyone compared a hospital bill from a for profit vs. a not for profit religious hospital? Even the for profits are required to provide charitable care…
Why should I be subsidizing their ability to preach things that I do not believe? Preach all you want, but pay taxdes like the rest of us infidels…..
I keep files of jokes and a few real-life oddities. I’ve got a photo copy of the ticket Swaggert got driving his friends car in Palm Springs with a hooker in the passenger seat and porn in the back.
I can’t type or spell.
I am proud to say I’m a faithful Catholic. But I don’t wholeheartedly accept everything my Church teaches. Birth Control was a hot issue in the 60s because it was ‘unnatural,’ yet there has never been an uproar about deodorant, toothpaste, or soap.
Unfortunately, the Church lost a good deal of its credibility with their birth control position, and when abortion became an issue, its voice was ignored by a large part of the population, which simply doesn’t believe that life begins at conception. I think they’re wrong, and once supported legislation or an Amendment to end it. But requiring people to believe as I do sure sounds like the Taliban.
But that doesn’t mean that institutions like churches, hospitals, charities, and even private businesses should be forced to provide all-inclusive coverage. They certainly exclude many procedures now (cosmetic, experimental), and we are all free to either pay for them ourselves or work elsewhere.
Well, you know what they say about our Catholic religion, it’s the hardest one to live by but the easiest one to die by!!!
I simply believe that we are required to believe what is written in the Bible, it should be that simple. God didn’t make it that hard, he gave us good directions!!!!
Kennedy was Catholic in name only.
This is a Health Care issue. Always has been. Always will be. Funny, the Catholic Bishops have asked the republicans for help on quite a few issues in the past, unemployment, welfare, etc., and the republicans didn’t give them the time of day.
As I was saying… And the evangelicals haven’t lifted a finger in response to those issues either. But let health care reform pop up and VIOLA! everybody is against it.
I think liberals should be able to kill their babies if they want to.
Well, we do have a president that condones infanticide…
IJS, give us hope for the future. Please don’t breed. You are one sick puppy.
What I meant to say is that I am pro choice. I don’t really see the difference in the two statements. Please help me clarify the distinction.
This is very typical of you anejo. I write something contaversial and instead of addressing your point of view with logic you immediately throw out insults. This is consistent with those who believe as you do, when the core of the issue is bared you get flustered and cower behind insults. I look forward to seeing if you ever have a point.
But wait…where are the scientologists? They don’t even believe in medicine do they? Should they not then be exempted from providing health coverage at all? What about WC – Indemnity & E/L Only coverage?
Oh grand-poobah Cruise, where is thy political voice & support for this/these mandate(s)?
I am tired of a mdedieval church, composed of old, white (primarily) celibate men procelytizing from the pulpit when the majority of their famale parishioners do not even follow the church teachings regarding both contraception and abortion.
It is a fact that the firt trimester fetus cannot survive outside of the womb. If you want to beleive that a soul is implanted when the sperm meets the ovum, believe what you want, but leave the rest of us who do not so believe alone.
I resent the intrusion into my repriductive health, my female health, my potential economic health that the evangelicals as well as the catholics are attempting. Personally, my freedom to not be assaulted by others beliefs based on the Bible (or some zealots interpretation of it), a 2000 year old tract based in its own time and place (with some universal truths in it however, such as nmaybe “do unto others…..”) is breached every day by the tax exempt status of these institutions and ther overweening hubris in believing that theirs is the only “true faith.”
Some of these preachings and revelations from these pulpits are as archaic and divisive and, yes, chauvinistic, as those held by the Taliban, and we all know how we feel about those zealots, don’t we?
This debate only serves to mask the rife hyupocrisy of a church that buried the abuses of its priests for decades and an evangelical contingent of ministers composed of the Bakkers and Swaggerts, et. al. who committed adulteries while mouthing holy scripture from the other sides ofn their mouths.
For shame.
I realize you are passionate about what you are saying and trying to make a point, but the validity of your post is overshadowed by your horrendous spelling and misuse of the English language. Perhaps proofreading before hitting post comment would help. We all make an occasional typo, but your post as written is an embarassment.
I wish there were a spell check feature. I could use it. A lot of my posts have typos. Not because I can’t spell, but because I use the Columbus method to type….search for it and land on it. But I don’t always proofread when I should. I don’t hold it against folks when they do it.
I am a championship speller but a lousy typist, especially when “passionate” about a subject, as you so rightly perceived.
Perhaps one should look past the spelling and look at the content; I always do.
The point is that while these folk play the “religious freedom card” at every turn, they have no concept that they, in turn, are seeking to impose their beliefs on me. The fact that we allow tax exemption is proof of lack of separation of church and state…or, rather, freedom to not have others’ religion practiced on my dime.
As for the good works they do, has anyone compared a hospital bill from a for profit vs. a not for profit religious hospital? Even the for profits are required to provide charitable care…
Why should I be subsidizing their ability to preach things that I do not believe? Preach all you want, but pay taxdes like the rest of us infidels…..
I keep files of jokes and a few real-life oddities. I’ve got a photo copy of the ticket Swaggert got driving his friends car in Palm Springs with a hooker in the passenger seat and porn in the back.
I can’t type or spell.
Obviously, there have been times in our history when an abhortion would have been a good thing!
Not all Catholics oppose the PPACA
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/23/431147/catholic-nuns-file-brief-supporting-affordable-care-act/
it has been proven that the heart starts beating after 18 days of conception…..Need I say more???
I am proud to say I’m a faithful Catholic. But I don’t wholeheartedly accept everything my Church teaches. Birth Control was a hot issue in the 60s because it was ‘unnatural,’ yet there has never been an uproar about deodorant, toothpaste, or soap.
Unfortunately, the Church lost a good deal of its credibility with their birth control position, and when abortion became an issue, its voice was ignored by a large part of the population, which simply doesn’t believe that life begins at conception. I think they’re wrong, and once supported legislation or an Amendment to end it. But requiring people to believe as I do sure sounds like the Taliban.
But that doesn’t mean that institutions like churches, hospitals, charities, and even private businesses should be forced to provide all-inclusive coverage. They certainly exclude many procedures now (cosmetic, experimental), and we are all free to either pay for them ourselves or work elsewhere.
Well, you know what they say about our Catholic religion, it’s the hardest one to live by but the easiest one to die by!!!
I simply believe that we are required to believe what is written in the Bible, it should be that simple. God didn’t make it that hard, he gave us good directions!!!!