It sounds like you are just a cry baby. An car can have an issue and it sounds like you had some bad luck. I\’m sure Honda repaired the car for you. I bet you complain about most everything in you life. Go buy a Ford, Chevy or Chrysler product and let us all know how you like it after about 10K miles. Grow up!
It\’s too bad Honda brags about quality. The airbag wiring recall does not surprise me. Do you know why?? Try this on for size: my 2005 Accord with 14,000 tender loving miles on it suddenly developed one minor problem: transmission failure!!!!! Reverse gear and neutral became identical! And of ocurse the dealer had NEVER heard of such a problem with any other Honda. We have heard this before: check the hidden files of the manufacturer to find out what they aren\’t telling you. Had anyone out there had similar problems under warranty?
GM factories placed 1 – 2 – 3 in initial build quality in the U.S. That means they had fewer problems in the first year than your beloved Honda.
It\’s knee-jerk anti-domestic people like you that crush resale value on american cars, and resale value is the only objectively measurable area that US manufacturers still lag in.
Have you even read any of the press lately? American cars are winning both driving comparisons and quality comparisons, and they\’re still less expensive.
Toyota just recalled 500,000 trucks and SUV\’s because the steering might fail. If Ford recalled that many you\’d be all over their \”crappy quality\”, so how about a little honesty and fair treatment?
And, as a final note, if my brand new car lost it\’s transmission at 15k I\’d be flaming pissed too. It doesn\’t matter if Honda fixes it for free- it still broke, and you are still worried about what else might break.
Obviously the happy honda owner is in la la land. And very very happy, since ignorance is bliss. And yes, pissed is a good description of the failed transmission problem I had: the car was in a parking lot at night in a poor section of town, and suddenly reverse did not function: it was the same as neutral. My wife was alone in a dangerous situation. Oh, yes the transmission got repaired. Did I forget to mention that the shift selector light on the dash failed (because the switch on the replaced transmission was defective…and went unnoticed by the dealer?) and it took 3 weeks to get a replacement switch? Oh, and by the way: how about last week\’s recall of 81,000 Honda Accords for failed airbag sensor switch?? Do you still want to brag about Honda quality?? What a joke!
Hate to disappoint all of you domestic car fans. I have spent the last 34 years working as a factory warranty rep and since 1984 I have managed service contract programs for several providers and insurers.I have examined repair costs and breakdown frequencies on millions of cars and light trucks.
Hondas overall have fantastic reliability records as do Toyotas and Nissans. Many (but not all) domestics have had and still have horrible repair records. It\’s not import car fans that drive down the resale value of domestic cars but rather the crummy products that some domestic manufacturers sell us.
Do I want the domestic brands to survive? Absolutely! I use a domestic car as a daily driver and I am saddened by the stupid things that have broken on it in the 4 years I have owned it. My previous car (a Japanese sporty coupe) lasted 300,000 plus miles in my hands with no breakdowns. Tires, brakes, and a clutch at 210,000 miles. The current owner has passed the 400,000 mile mark and the engine and transmission stillhave not been taken apart. My current domestic ride has suffered a blown up transmission, failed ABS computer, seized supercharger, and broken drive axles all before reaching the 100,000 mile mark. I keep it because it\’s red and fairly fast when it\’s running.
I\’ll meet you half way- the domestics are getting better.
However, Toyota recently announced that they have seen slips in quality from their aggressive expansion recently. Due to that, they also said they were going to pause and re-emphasize quality.
I spent 6 years in the automotive industry (NOT at a domestic) and those sorts of announcements are indicative of deeper problems.
It\’s important to realize that recalls affecting 525,000 trucks are bad in and of themselves, but they also show that the company overall is failing in either quality control or design.
A big failure in one area generally indicates small failures in other areas. And, while I would love to see the numbers you talked about, I want to see them to check for trends in recent Japanese repair costs.
This is not the only forum I frequent, and the posts here are not the only complaints from Honda and Toyota owners I\’ve seen.
As I said before, I am waiting to see what repair and reliability numbers look like in 3 or 4 years. I have a sneaking suspicion that some people will be very surprised to see how \”reliable\” some of the new cars are… particularly the Camry, the Civic, and the Altima. While I don\’t have hard evidence like you\’re talking about, I see enough anecdotal evidence to suggest a strong trend.
And, I\’m going to need to know how much tires are going to cost me yearly on that Camaro.
Hi,
A week ago I was front-ended on the drivers front side by a car sliding across the snow. That car\’s front passenger side front hit ours (driver\’s front) causing the rear sides of both cars to also hit. Both cars were going 25-30mph. The other car\’s airbags deployed. Our 2006 Honda Accord airbags did not deploy and my head hit the window. ….Thinking I was so safe with the front and side airbags!!!
I think it\’s unfair that you say as an import lover it\’s my fault American cars have low resale value.
Two weeks ago, I was in a serious accident with my Honda and a domestic car. Had my airbag not deployed, I had minor damage and the car was still running. On the domestic… not so good. The impact blew the doors off that car, literally. Last I heard they decided to just total the other car due to extensive frame damage it was unrepairable.
The police officers were amazed that the two cars were in the same accident. You can drive whatever makes you happy. I\’m going to drive what keeps me alive.
My 2002 Honda Accord V6 already had two problems. First its transmission failed at 49,000 miles. Honda replaced it free as a courtesy, while I still paid the dealer $200 for diagnosis.
Now the car’s Aigbag Failure Sensor has failed at 65,000 miles. I am really disappointed with such manufacturing defects in Honda. I thought it is supposed to be high quality car. Even Hyundai gives 100,000 miles warranty. I guess there is a reason why Honda can’t do that. Because their cars do not last that long.
My son had an accident in his 2007 Civic sedan tonight. He was hit hard enough on the drivers side to push the door all the way in to where his left leg would normally be at rest!
Not one airbag went off, and he hit the door hard because of the impact.
We specifically bought this car because of safety equipment and ratings, and paid a heavy premium to protect this young man from just such an accident.
Does anyone know of any similar failures of airbags to deploy? What the #$*#$@Q& does it take for these bags to do what they are there for!!!!
teenager closed pasenger door harder than usual in a hurry curtain airbags and side airbags deployed. has anyone else had this problem with a 08 accord sedan.
had to replace rear pads and a rotor on driver side rear after only 16,000 miles an a new 08 accord sedan. Honda says they admit they have problem. However, they will not cover it under warranty or issue a recall at this time!
Stop and think, Happy Honda Owner. I am faced with paying £275 to replace an airbag sensor on my CR-V which has only done 25,000 miles and has never been in a crash or bump. The sensor can’t be said to have failed due to fair wear and tear. Honda has already admitted faults with its Accord bags. Don’t you think there might be a link. This is important stuff. Air bags just can’t be allowed to go wrong. Like nuclear weapons they just have to work!
It sounds like you are just a cry baby. An car can have an issue and it sounds like you had some bad luck. I\’m sure Honda repaired the car for you. I bet you complain about most everything in you life. Go buy a Ford, Chevy or Chrysler product and let us all know how you like it after about 10K miles. Grow up!
It\’s too bad Honda brags about quality. The airbag wiring recall does not surprise me. Do you know why?? Try this on for size: my 2005 Accord with 14,000 tender loving miles on it suddenly developed one minor problem: transmission failure!!!!! Reverse gear and neutral became identical! And of ocurse the dealer had NEVER heard of such a problem with any other Honda. We have heard this before: check the hidden files of the manufacturer to find out what they aren\’t telling you. Had anyone out there had similar problems under warranty?
GM factories placed 1 – 2 – 3 in initial build quality in the U.S. That means they had fewer problems in the first year than your beloved Honda.
It\’s knee-jerk anti-domestic people like you that crush resale value on american cars, and resale value is the only objectively measurable area that US manufacturers still lag in.
Have you even read any of the press lately? American cars are winning both driving comparisons and quality comparisons, and they\’re still less expensive.
Toyota just recalled 500,000 trucks and SUV\’s because the steering might fail. If Ford recalled that many you\’d be all over their \”crappy quality\”, so how about a little honesty and fair treatment?
And, as a final note, if my brand new car lost it\’s transmission at 15k I\’d be flaming pissed too. It doesn\’t matter if Honda fixes it for free- it still broke, and you are still worried about what else might break.
Obviously the happy honda owner is in la la land. And very very happy, since ignorance is bliss. And yes, pissed is a good description of the failed transmission problem I had: the car was in a parking lot at night in a poor section of town, and suddenly reverse did not function: it was the same as neutral. My wife was alone in a dangerous situation. Oh, yes the transmission got repaired. Did I forget to mention that the shift selector light on the dash failed (because the switch on the replaced transmission was defective…and went unnoticed by the dealer?) and it took 3 weeks to get a replacement switch? Oh, and by the way: how about last week\’s recall of 81,000 Honda Accords for failed airbag sensor switch?? Do you still want to brag about Honda quality?? What a joke!
Hate to disappoint all of you domestic car fans. I have spent the last 34 years working as a factory warranty rep and since 1984 I have managed service contract programs for several providers and insurers.I have examined repair costs and breakdown frequencies on millions of cars and light trucks.
Hondas overall have fantastic reliability records as do Toyotas and Nissans. Many (but not all) domestics have had and still have horrible repair records. It\’s not import car fans that drive down the resale value of domestic cars but rather the crummy products that some domestic manufacturers sell us.
Do I want the domestic brands to survive? Absolutely! I use a domestic car as a daily driver and I am saddened by the stupid things that have broken on it in the 4 years I have owned it. My previous car (a Japanese sporty coupe) lasted 300,000 plus miles in my hands with no breakdowns. Tires, brakes, and a clutch at 210,000 miles. The current owner has passed the 400,000 mile mark and the engine and transmission stillhave not been taken apart. My current domestic ride has suffered a blown up transmission, failed ABS computer, seized supercharger, and broken drive axles all before reaching the 100,000 mile mark. I keep it because it\’s red and fairly fast when it\’s running.
Fair enough. I think it\’s getting better, and I hope that data analysis five years from now shows it. I\’m still buying a 2010 Camaro either way.
Mjolnir, you are right- The domestic cars are getting better but so are the imports. And you will have to stand in line behind me to get your Camaro.
I\’ll meet you half way- the domestics are getting better.
However, Toyota recently announced that they have seen slips in quality from their aggressive expansion recently. Due to that, they also said they were going to pause and re-emphasize quality.
I spent 6 years in the automotive industry (NOT at a domestic) and those sorts of announcements are indicative of deeper problems.
It\’s important to realize that recalls affecting 525,000 trucks are bad in and of themselves, but they also show that the company overall is failing in either quality control or design.
A big failure in one area generally indicates small failures in other areas. And, while I would love to see the numbers you talked about, I want to see them to check for trends in recent Japanese repair costs.
This is not the only forum I frequent, and the posts here are not the only complaints from Honda and Toyota owners I\’ve seen.
As I said before, I am waiting to see what repair and reliability numbers look like in 3 or 4 years. I have a sneaking suspicion that some people will be very surprised to see how \”reliable\” some of the new cars are… particularly the Camry, the Civic, and the Altima. While I don\’t have hard evidence like you\’re talking about, I see enough anecdotal evidence to suggest a strong trend.
And, I\’m going to need to know how much tires are going to cost me yearly on that Camaro.
Hi,
A week ago I was front-ended on the drivers front side by a car sliding across the snow. That car\’s front passenger side front hit ours (driver\’s front) causing the rear sides of both cars to also hit. Both cars were going 25-30mph. The other car\’s airbags deployed. Our 2006 Honda Accord airbags did not deploy and my head hit the window. ….Thinking I was so safe with the front and side airbags!!!
I think it\’s unfair that you say as an import lover it\’s my fault American cars have low resale value.
Two weeks ago, I was in a serious accident with my Honda and a domestic car. Had my airbag not deployed, I had minor damage and the car was still running. On the domestic… not so good. The impact blew the doors off that car, literally. Last I heard they decided to just total the other car due to extensive frame damage it was unrepairable.
The police officers were amazed that the two cars were in the same accident. You can drive whatever makes you happy. I\’m going to drive what keeps me alive.
My 2002 Honda Accord V6 already had two problems. First its transmission failed at 49,000 miles. Honda replaced it free as a courtesy, while I still paid the dealer $200 for diagnosis.
Now the car’s Aigbag Failure Sensor has failed at 65,000 miles. I am really disappointed with such manufacturing defects in Honda. I thought it is supposed to be high quality car. Even Hyundai gives 100,000 miles warranty. I guess there is a reason why Honda can’t do that. Because their cars do not last that long.
My son had an accident in his 2007 Civic sedan tonight. He was hit hard enough on the drivers side to push the door all the way in to where his left leg would normally be at rest!
Not one airbag went off, and he hit the door hard because of the impact.
We specifically bought this car because of safety equipment and ratings, and paid a heavy premium to protect this young man from just such an accident.
Does anyone know of any similar failures of airbags to deploy? What the #$*#$@Q& does it take for these bags to do what they are there for!!!!
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teenager closed pasenger door harder than usual in a hurry curtain airbags and side airbags deployed. has anyone else had this problem with a 08 accord sedan.
I Just had my car inspected and the dealer disregarded the air bag light. I have a 2000 honda accord. who do i call to have this fixed.
had to replace rear pads and a rotor on driver side rear after only 16,000 miles an a new 08 accord sedan. Honda says they admit they have problem. However, they will not cover it under warranty or issue a recall at this time!
how can we get honda to issue a recall
Stop and think, Happy Honda Owner. I am faced with paying £275 to replace an airbag sensor on my CR-V which has only done 25,000 miles and has never been in a crash or bump. The sensor can’t be said to have failed due to fair wear and tear. Honda has already admitted faults with its Accord bags. Don’t you think there might be a link. This is important stuff. Air bags just can’t be allowed to go wrong. Like nuclear weapons they just have to work!
If there was a reason that Honda chose to not pay for the sensor and you feel it should be replaced, then PAY FOR IT and stop whining.