Maybe this was Bush’s plan all along. Sterilize them so they can’t come over to our country, steal our jobs, suck up the health care money, and then drop anchor babies on us. But, I bet Karl Rove was the person really behind it. Good Job Karl!! This may work better than a wall
And we get to experience higher insurance cost if the claimants are successful at all. And were is the scientific evidence? Probably found that evidence in the back pocket of some ambulance chasing lawyer, eh?
They were exposed in the ’70’s & are just now filing a suit? Dang, those lawyers sure are slow. Maybe they were using the same stuff. What kind of water supply? Running water should have been clean for at least a few years now. No shortage of atrophied testes in the attorneys is there?
If it were up to Patriot and Compman, we would still have slaves around. Oh wait, big corporations do have slaves in third world countries. You talk about taking your jobs away, when was the last time you wanted to work in the fields picking fruit or in a restaurant washing dishes? I seriously doudt that any of you have ever worked that type of job. So cut the crap and let the courts decide. After all there are conservative judges on the bench as well.
Mo,
Interesting point re: Americans working in fields or washing dishes. This case, from what I read in the article is regarding workers -outside- the US, though.
But you got me to thinking. I can’t remember the last time I saw a verifiable American doing that type of labor, although I’m sure some do.
This may be somewhat off topic…
But is there any possibility that a lot of Americans aren’t seen doing things like washing dishes, roofing or working in fields because they actually “make” more money collecting welfare?
Therefore migrant workers and illegals will accept those jobs because they are ineligible for welfare?
Mo, before you start passing judgment, maybe you should try and soak in some facts. Where do you think most high school kids work? They don’t start out as CEO’s of companies. When I was 15, I was a busboy at Perkins in Plymouth, MN. I rode my bike 2 miles each way to work there. I worked my way UP to dishwasher by the time I turned 16 and could drive. Then I applied as a bagboy at a Grocery store and worked up to stockboy and kept that job thru college. So don’t go telling me I have never done or won’t do those types of jobs. To this day, I can afford to hire a cleaning lady to clean my house, but I do it myself. Same with upkeep of my yard. I mow my lawn, (well, I make my son do it), but that’s ok. You bleeding hearts need to pack your bags and move to Cuba or France and get the hell out of our country if you want to be a socialist.
I hope this lawsuit will open up some Americans’ eyes. While I understand where patriot and compman are coming from…I’m tired of everyone blaming the immigrants. Odds are at one time your families were immigrants too, at one time, patriot and compman. They are just here trying to make a better lives for themselves (and i’m only speaking to the people who are here working hard and want to be here legally).
But when are we going to hold these businesses accountable for what they do? The exploitation of these workers is more ridiculous than someone coming here for a better life.
we all point the finger at people coming here for jobs, but NO ONE points a finger at these companies that hire them and pay them poorly and provide poor working conditions.
and besides, you are in insurance. you should know…even if someone is working illegaly, if a company hired them to work, they are still responsible for providing work comp.
I should have read your post before going off on my rant! You’re right, I believe this is for outside the US…although, it doesn’t really specify does it.
Wow Compman, can you believe that we share the same values and work ethic. The only difference in our way of thinking is that corporations/multinationals need to be held accountable. You don’t have to exploit people to make a buck. You can still make a buck and make even more when you treat workers well. I too have done jobs when I was growing up. I even helped my father out at his second job before I was 12 cleaning some office and a production plant. So you see we’re that so different after all.
Maybe I assumed too much, but I felt pretty sure the case was regarding workers outside the US when I read this paragraph:
“Plantation workers were allowed to ingest and bathe in contaminated water when they lived in company-supplied housing on Nicaraguan banana plantations, the lawsuit said.”
But you’re right, it wasn’t -that- specific up until then.
Government has to start being stricker on these companies. I read a report where this company near the border would hire illegal immigrants and then after 2 weeks when it was time to pay them, he would turn them in to the authorities, avoiding paying them. I am sure many do this! I am not for illegal immigrants, but this is not right either.
The Trial attorneys have extended their evil sights to beyond US. If these so called “Plaintiffs” win, the trail attorneys will have a fatter pockets and all other Rats will be out looking for “Plaintiff”, the whole world will bring suits against US companies, like out courts are not busy enough !
One hope : maybe US companies will stop outsourcing !
I agree 100%, the dishwasher, busboy, burger flippers are jobs the teenagers have to get a few bucks for college or as a starting point in their employment. They are not intended to produce a living wage for a family of 5. For the statisticians and the bleeding hearts to decry the wages is pure BS and they know it. Yet the press eats it up.
Got a passel of kids that you can’t support on a bagboy’s wages, here’s an idea, don’t have kids until you can support them. I also earned my way by doing the same jobs Compman did and waited until I could afford to pay for my children.
By the way Compman, after reading your post, have to let you know that my moniker Plymn does stand for Plymouth MN. You must have done well at the local Perkins as my parents kept going back there when they came for a visit.
Yeah, the Perkins Supreme was the best. Burger with bacon, cheese and their special barbecue sauce. Though, I have to say, watching the cooks, who were by the way, my high school buddies, I don’t think I would have eaten there as an adult!. Did you go to HS out there?
Mary B (and I know what that stands for)…I have read your posts on many cases. I was wondering if you could please provide me one example of a situation where someone does have the right to sue. Just one would be nice.
Ad, Patriot, Compman…thanks for the obligatory racist comments. Oh, and if you think George Bush / Karl Rove don’t want illegals in this country working for nothing, you might want to move your head 6 to 8 inches straight down so it’s out of your *** and you can observe what actually happens on this planet.
Hey Jeff. You and Rosie have a lot in common. Maybe you two could hook up and have babies together. I am sure Stephen King would like some new material on your “creations.”
Obviously you can’t recognize sarcasm even when it smacks you write in the face. With all the libs blaming Bush and Rove for everything from shark attacks to pimples on your butt.
As far as my comments about “illegal” immigrants being racist. Please advise which word, illegal or immigrant has any race connotation. I would love to see how you can. This is your tired way of explaining away the illegal immigrant problem. Seems you don’t understand that the majority don’t care if the skin is white, black, brown, green, orange., it has nothing to do with that. It has to do with these people being here illegally and sucking up our resources. I don’t give a damn if they are Mexican, Canadien, Israeli, Australian, etc. if they are not here legally, then they need to be expelled.
Dole and other companies that exploit workers in the name of profits need to learn that they are responsible when they cause harm.
Maybe this was Bush’s plan all along. Sterilize them so they can’t come over to our country, steal our jobs, suck up the health care money, and then drop anchor babies on us. But, I bet Karl Rove was the person really behind it. Good Job Karl!! This may work better than a wall
And we get to experience higher insurance cost if the claimants are successful at all. And were is the scientific evidence? Probably found that evidence in the back pocket of some ambulance chasing lawyer, eh?
Good post Compman!
Patriot, I agree with you on the evidence, or lack of.
They were exposed in the ’70’s & are just now filing a suit? Dang, those lawyers sure are slow. Maybe they were using the same stuff. What kind of water supply? Running water should have been clean for at least a few years now. No shortage of atrophied testes in the attorneys is there?
If it were up to Patriot and Compman, we would still have slaves around. Oh wait, big corporations do have slaves in third world countries. You talk about taking your jobs away, when was the last time you wanted to work in the fields picking fruit or in a restaurant washing dishes? I seriously doudt that any of you have ever worked that type of job. So cut the crap and let the courts decide. After all there are conservative judges on the bench as well.
What tripe. This is pure BS and the case should have been thrown out of the US Courts a long time ago.
Mo,
Interesting point re: Americans working in fields or washing dishes. This case, from what I read in the article is regarding workers -outside- the US, though.
But you got me to thinking. I can’t remember the last time I saw a verifiable American doing that type of labor, although I’m sure some do.
This may be somewhat off topic…
But is there any possibility that a lot of Americans aren’t seen doing things like washing dishes, roofing or working in fields because they actually “make” more money collecting welfare?
Therefore migrant workers and illegals will accept those jobs because they are ineligible for welfare?
Just a theory…
Mo, before you start passing judgment, maybe you should try and soak in some facts. Where do you think most high school kids work? They don’t start out as CEO’s of companies. When I was 15, I was a busboy at Perkins in Plymouth, MN. I rode my bike 2 miles each way to work there. I worked my way UP to dishwasher by the time I turned 16 and could drive. Then I applied as a bagboy at a Grocery store and worked up to stockboy and kept that job thru college. So don’t go telling me I have never done or won’t do those types of jobs. To this day, I can afford to hire a cleaning lady to clean my house, but I do it myself. Same with upkeep of my yard. I mow my lawn, (well, I make my son do it), but that’s ok. You bleeding hearts need to pack your bags and move to Cuba or France and get the hell out of our country if you want to be a socialist.
I hope this lawsuit will open up some Americans’ eyes. While I understand where patriot and compman are coming from…I’m tired of everyone blaming the immigrants. Odds are at one time your families were immigrants too, at one time, patriot and compman. They are just here trying to make a better lives for themselves (and i’m only speaking to the people who are here working hard and want to be here legally).
But when are we going to hold these businesses accountable for what they do? The exploitation of these workers is more ridiculous than someone coming here for a better life.
we all point the finger at people coming here for jobs, but NO ONE points a finger at these companies that hire them and pay them poorly and provide poor working conditions.
and besides, you are in insurance. you should know…even if someone is working illegaly, if a company hired them to work, they are still responsible for providing work comp.
I should have read your post before going off on my rant! You’re right, I believe this is for outside the US…although, it doesn’t really specify does it.
Wow Compman, can you believe that we share the same values and work ethic. The only difference in our way of thinking is that corporations/multinationals need to be held accountable. You don’t have to exploit people to make a buck. You can still make a buck and make even more when you treat workers well. I too have done jobs when I was growing up. I even helped my father out at his second job before I was 12 cleaning some office and a production plant. So you see we’re that so different after all.
Maybe I assumed too much, but I felt pretty sure the case was regarding workers outside the US when I read this paragraph:
“Plantation workers were allowed to ingest and bathe in contaminated water when they lived in company-supplied housing on Nicaraguan banana plantations, the lawsuit said.”
But you’re right, it wasn’t -that- specific up until then.
Government has to start being stricker on these companies. I read a report where this company near the border would hire illegal immigrants and then after 2 weeks when it was time to pay them, he would turn them in to the authorities, avoiding paying them. I am sure many do this! I am not for illegal immigrants, but this is not right either.
The Trial attorneys have extended their evil sights to beyond US. If these so called “Plaintiffs” win, the trail attorneys will have a fatter pockets and all other Rats will be out looking for “Plaintiff”, the whole world will bring suits against US companies, like out courts are not busy enough !
One hope : maybe US companies will stop outsourcing !
I agree 100%, the dishwasher, busboy, burger flippers are jobs the teenagers have to get a few bucks for college or as a starting point in their employment. They are not intended to produce a living wage for a family of 5. For the statisticians and the bleeding hearts to decry the wages is pure BS and they know it. Yet the press eats it up.
Got a passel of kids that you can’t support on a bagboy’s wages, here’s an idea, don’t have kids until you can support them. I also earned my way by doing the same jobs Compman did and waited until I could afford to pay for my children.
By the way Compman, after reading your post, have to let you know that my moniker Plymn does stand for Plymouth MN. You must have done well at the local Perkins as my parents kept going back there when they came for a visit.
Yeah, the Perkins Supreme was the best. Burger with bacon, cheese and their special barbecue sauce. Though, I have to say, watching the cooks, who were by the way, my high school buddies, I don’t think I would have eaten there as an adult!. Did you go to HS out there?
thanks for the information. Haven’t eaten there in years. No, moved to the area from CO when I graduated from college.
TB
Mary B (and I know what that stands for)…I have read your posts on many cases. I was wondering if you could please provide me one example of a situation where someone does have the right to sue. Just one would be nice.
Ad, Patriot, Compman…thanks for the obligatory racist comments. Oh, and if you think George Bush / Karl Rove don’t want illegals in this country working for nothing, you might want to move your head 6 to 8 inches straight down so it’s out of your *** and you can observe what actually happens on this planet.
Hey Jeff. You and Rosie have a lot in common. Maybe you two could hook up and have babies together. I am sure Stephen King would like some new material on your “creations.”
Jeff,
Obviously you can’t recognize sarcasm even when it smacks you write in the face. With all the libs blaming Bush and Rove for everything from shark attacks to pimples on your butt.
As far as my comments about “illegal” immigrants being racist. Please advise which word, illegal or immigrant has any race connotation. I would love to see how you can. This is your tired way of explaining away the illegal immigrant problem. Seems you don’t understand that the majority don’t care if the skin is white, black, brown, green, orange., it has nothing to do with that. It has to do with these people being here illegally and sucking up our resources. I don’t give a damn if they are Mexican, Canadien, Israeli, Australian, etc. if they are not here legally, then they need to be expelled.
Compman, well put, but do you think Jeff will understand! If something doesn’t please them, immediately it is racist!
That is hilarious! OMG-I’m crying I’m laughing so hard.